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Jul 12 05:56:15 <Qcoder00> Morning
Jul 12 05:57:19 <VenezuelaWar> ._.
Jul 12 05:57:22 <VenezuelaWar> hi
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Jul 12 06:40:26 <Qcoder00> MOrning
Jul 12 06:40:35 <Qcoder00> Any image speclaists aroud?
Jul 12 06:40:37 <Carly> MORNINg
Jul 12 06:43:48 <jubo2> morning piippöls
Jul 12 06:44:32 <Carly> lol
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Jul 12 06:55:45 <Bradford> Carly: hi
Jul 12 06:56:16 <Carly> hello again
Jul 12 06:57:07 <Bradford> :)
Jul 12 06:58:41 <NotASpy> Qcoder00: what image ?
Jul 12 06:58:50 <Qcoder00> Non specfically
Jul 12 06:59:11 <Qcoder00> I am slowly persuing an effort to add {{infromation}} and would like some asisstance
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Jul 12 07:28:21 <Bsadowski1> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data
Jul 12 07:28:22 <Bsadowski1> :O
Jul 12 07:29:54 <Carly> :OO
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Jul 12 07:31:21 <jubo2> G'morning piippöls
Jul 12 07:31:52 <Carly> -_- morning Again
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Jul 12 08:33:06 <Bradford> Carly: :)
Jul 12 08:33:20 <Carly> o jai
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Jul 12 09:05:36 <wctaiwan> any admin around? (not urgent)
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Jul 12 09:19:44 <MartijnH> wctaiwan: sup
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Jul 12 09:21:46 <Bradford> Carly: ayudame
Jul 12 09:21:51 <Bradford> Carly: como quito un akick?
Jul 12 09:24:22 <Carly> bradford /msg chanserv akick #room del nick
Jul 12 09:24:44 <Carly> del* significa quitar
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Jul 12 09:25:03 <Bradford> ok
Jul 12 09:25:21 <wctaiwan> how to delete an akick?
Jul 12 09:25:25 * wctaiwan can totally speak spanish >.>
Jul 12 09:25:28 <Carly> yeah
Jul 12 09:25:37 <Bradford> :)
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Jul 12 09:38:27 <Carly> who know what exactly does v.i.p mean?
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Jul 12 09:42:00 <SoapX> VIP = "very important person" but it's so easy to make it stand for something else that half the time it has some hidden other meaning
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Jul 12 09:55:27 <SoapX> hi Dusti
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Jul 12 09:56:19 <Dusti> hey SoapX :)
Jul 12 09:56:22 <SoapX> oh
Jul 12 09:56:35 <SoapX> someone's using Swob again
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Jul 12 09:56:51 <Dusti> You should register it :p
Jul 12 09:56:57 <SoapX> i did
Jul 12 09:57:09 <SoapX> but i feel bad because I go through nicks so often I dont really need it
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Jul 12 09:57:34 <SoapX> and the other swob doenst seem to speak English
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Jul 12 09:59:50 <SoapX> no one in my apartment complex understands hygiene
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Jul 12 10:00:03 <Qcoder00> SoapX:?
Jul 12 10:00:22 <SoapX> like when i got here eveyrone was washing their hands with dishsoap
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Jul 12 10:00:41 <SoapX> i bought them a bottle of actual hand soap and put the dish soap in the kitchen
Jul 12 10:01:00 <SoapX> but, then who am I to tlak? i just drank from the same cofffee cup 5 days in a row wihout washing it
Jul 12 10:01:36 <SoapX> because it was the biggest one and i didnt want anytone else taking it
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Jul 12 10:07:25 <SoapX> well anyway now we're out of dishwasher detergent
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Jul 12 10:12:49 <wctaiwan> SoapX: DishSoapX? ;-)
Jul 12 10:22:58 <SoapX> oh and one of them left orange juice sitting out in the carton at room temperature
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Jul 12 10:24:03 <TheDruId> Depending on the room temperautre, that may be fine. My apartment is 51 degrees in the winter.
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Jul 12 10:53:50 <TeeTylerToe> so, the republican congressional probe that purportedly unearthed partisan corruption at the IRS thanks to either
Jul 12 10:54:40 <SoapX> yeah the IRS is pro-Democrat
Jul 12 10:54:44 <TeeTylerToe> the republicans themselves, or the treasury department audit of their IRS division... turns out to either be a partisan falsification by the republicans, or by the treasury audit
Jul 12 10:56:51 <TheDruId> 538 says the statistics don't back up claims of bias, but who can know what was in their minds?
Jul 12 10:57:41 <SoapX> they have pictures of donkeys slaughtering elephants as "motivational" posters all over the walls
Jul 12 10:57:47 <SoapX> it's totally 100% partisan
Jul 12 10:58:26 <SoapX> granted they were all pro Republican when Bush was in power, which shows just how quickly they can switch sides
Jul 12 10:58:38 <SoapX> its not like they fired all the Republicans or anything. theyre the same people
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Jul 12 11:03:44 <ToAruShiroiNeko> SoapX IRS is pro tax
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Jul 12 11:03:54 <ToAruShiroiNeko> what did you expect?
Jul 12 11:04:51 <ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe IRS may have toppled al-capone but they will be toppled by a higher mafia
Jul 12 11:05:23 <TheDruId> Quick quip: "The IRS sees your money as just that: theIRS."
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Jul 12 11:19:23 * Dusti is getting annoyed
Jul 12 11:20:53 <TheDruId> Dusti, congratulations.
Jul 12 11:21:26 <Dusti> eh, I suppose it means I'm doing /something/ right lol
Jul 12 11:22:27 <TheDruId> Well, getting annoyed usually requires thought, unless it's a knee-jerk reaction.
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Jul 12 11:25:41 <SoapX> lol druid
Jul 12 11:26:23 <SoapX> seriosuly though Republicans and libertarians should be exempt from all taxes
Jul 12 11:26:47 <SoapX> tax the people who support higher taxes at a higher rate and those who favor lower taxes at a lower rate
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Jul 12 11:28:24 <TheDruId> I'm for anyone setting taxes as high as they pay, but at the lower of whether that's an amount or a per centage.
Jul 12 11:28:43 <Harpagornis> Hi
Jul 12 11:29:11 <TheDruId> This is neat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ant_Nest.jpg
Jul 12 11:30:13 <MartijnH> OR! do the exact opposite. Let everyone vote for a tax rate. The average will be the base tax rate. For every % you vote higher, you will be taxed half a % lower and vice versa
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Jul 12 11:31:03 <SoapX> I vote for negative 834785934789657893463646346745674568965 percent
Jul 12 11:31:25 <SoapX> the more money you make, the more the gov't pays you
Jul 12 11:31:33 <SoapX> but even poor people still get rich
Jul 12 11:31:49 <Bradford> Harpagornis: O_O
Jul 12 11:32:26 <TheDruId> I'd also index your refund to your vote, with a minimal guaranteed return.
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Jul 12 11:39:58 <SoapX> prab
Jul 12 11:40:01 <SoapX> you here??
Jul 12 11:40:06 <SoapX> prabash pbash607 or whatever
Jul 12 11:40:09 <SoapX> guess not
Jul 12 11:40:57 <SoapX> prabby katty
Jul 12 11:41:15 <TeeTylerToe> I think people that complain they're oppressed by taxes should have their taxes raised higher and higher until the oppression of their taxes is equal to how onerous they claim they are
Jul 12 11:41:17 <Dusti> I don't see any prabs in the user list lol
Jul 12 11:41:38 <TeeTylerToe> So if someone making $100k a year says they're being taxed out of their house, tax them until they can't afford a house
Jul 12 11:41:49 <SoapX> yeah I can agree with that
Jul 12 11:41:51 <SoapX> screw the rich
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Jul 12 11:41:57 <TeeTylerToe> it's not the rich
Jul 12 11:41:59 <SoapX> except when they help the poor
Jul 12 11:42:16 <SoapX> if giving more money to the rich means everyone wins, then Im for it
Jul 12 11:42:24 <SoapX> but if theyre just basically taking everyone else's money then no
Jul 12 11:42:29 <TeeTylerToe> Well, the rich helping the poor hasn't worked out very well for the poor over the past hundreds of thousands of years
Jul 12 11:42:36 <SoapX> *has
Jul 12 11:42:44 <TeeTylerToe> and I'm not saying "rich people should be taxed out of their homes"
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Jul 12 11:43:17 <TeeTylerToe> I'm saying that people that complain they're being taxed out of their homes should be taxed out of their homes, whether they're on your team, rich, or poor
Jul 12 11:43:33 <SoapX> nah thats too harsh
Jul 12 11:43:46 <SoapX> because what if it's literally true?
Jul 12 11:43:48 <SoapX> those people need help
Jul 12 11:43:56 <SoapX> I'd only support that for the people who really just want to complain
Jul 12 11:44:13 <SoapX> there are places where taxes are genuinely so high that people can't afford them
Jul 12 11:44:30 <TeeTylerToe> but I'm a little tired of hearing "I'm being taxed out of my 100,000sq ft mansion on 10 acres of land in a place where a townhouse costs a million dollars"
Jul 12 11:44:47 <ScientificAlan> Lol
Jul 12 11:45:00 <SoapX> decimalland, where everything costs a power of ten
Jul 12 11:45:12 <TeeTylerToe> In the US the top marginal income tax level was 94% in 1945
Jul 12 11:45:21 <SoapX> yeah that was stupid
Jul 12 11:45:22 <TeeTylerToe> it was not the end of the world
Jul 12 11:45:25 <TeeTylerToe> Oh?
Jul 12 11:45:30 <SoapX> imagine if we tried that today
Jul 12 11:45:38 <SoapX> all the technology companies would move to Asia
Jul 12 11:45:47 <TeeTylerToe> ...
Jul 12 11:45:49 <SoapX> or even EUROPE of all places
Jul 12 11:45:53 <TeeTylerToe> what tech companies aren't in asia
Jul 12 11:46:09 <TeeTylerToe> oddly enough, apple is one of the very few companies bringing things back to the us
Jul 12 11:46:11 <SoapX> Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter, all those california startups
Jul 12 11:46:16 <SoapX> are in the USA
Jul 12 11:46:20 <SoapX> Europe has Nokia
Jul 12 11:46:21 <SoapX> thats it
Jul 12 11:46:35 <TeeTylerToe> google's in china, apple's in china, microsoft's in china, facebook and twitter would be in china but they aren't allowed
Jul 12 11:46:41 <SoapX> even Asia doesnt have many companies actually based there. they just do the cheap labor
Jul 12 11:46:43 <TeeTylerToe> well, I think google was in china for a time then left
Jul 12 11:46:46 <Dusti> Prodgeo, ping
Jul 12 11:46:57 <SoapX> like, take Japan for example
Jul 12 11:47:04 <SoapX> they totally missed the boat on computers and smartphones and all that
Jul 12 11:47:08 <TheDruId> 160 packets of ramen noodles costs me $31.83, and meets caloric needs. Anyone who complains about their costs for a single person not being met by food stamps/welfare is eating a lot more foolishly or better than I am, on sandwiches and noodles.
Jul 12 11:47:09 <TeeTylerToe> no, I'm pretty sure they still have offices in china
Jul 12 11:47:13 <SoapX> sure they still have the cars, which makes them a lot of money, but what else?
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Jul 12 11:47:32 <SoapX> ugh
Jul 12 11:47:39 <SoapX> Ramen noodles are terrible
Jul 12 11:47:43 <SoapX> I dont see why people like them
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Jul 12 11:47:56 <ScientificAlan> And they are about that healthy, too
Jul 12 11:48:00 <ScientificAlan> Terrible.
Jul 12 11:48:01 <TheDruId> Fast, easy, long shelf life.
Jul 12 11:48:18 <TeeTylerToe> I think you should upgrade to bacelor chow brand bachelor chow thedruid, available in your local upscale food pellet dispenser
Jul 12 11:48:20 <TheDruId> Can easily add plenty of other stuff to it.
Jul 12 11:48:22 <SoapX> but they taste terrible
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Jul 12 11:48:36 <ScientificAlan> Know what else is fast, healthy, and has a long shelf life?
Jul 12 11:48:38 <SoapX> I mean Ive enever tried them
Jul 12 11:48:40 <SoapX> but I go by smell
Jul 12 11:48:44 <ScientificAlan> A live chicken
Jul 12 11:48:50 <SoapX> 100% of the time, if a food smells bad it will taste bad too
Jul 12 11:48:57 <SoapX> chickens are nice
Jul 12 11:48:58 <ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe facebook and twitter is in china
Jul 12 11:49:05 <ToAruShiroiNeko> I bet the chinese are recording it all
Jul 12 11:49:12 <ToAruShiroiNeko> making note of our sex habits and such
Jul 12 11:49:21 <SoapX> youre talking about China like it's some Communist heaven or something
Jul 12 11:49:31 <SoapX> seriously China is more capitalist than the USA is these days
Jul 12 11:49:33 <TheDruId> Which they'll never be able to read all of.
Jul 12 11:49:46 <ToAruShiroiNeko> China is very communitst towards its poor
Jul 12 11:49:52 <SoapX> if anything, outsourcing to China proves that Communism kills economies since the USA is more Communist than China
Jul 12 11:50:02 <ToAruShiroiNeko> and very capitalist towards the rich
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Jul 12 11:50:21 <ScientificAlan> China is worse than America in some ways.
Jul 12 11:50:21 <FastCreeper4> 'Morning everyone
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Jul 12 11:50:29 <ToAruShiroiNeko> making it the only simultaniously extreme capitalist and communist nation in history
Jul 12 11:50:30 <ScientificAlan> Well, actually, more than some
Jul 12 11:50:31 <SoapX> i think the only real communists left are in Latin America
Jul 12 11:50:34 <SoapX> not even North Korea qualifies
Jul 12 11:50:39 <TheDruId> FastCreeper4, Morning, Fred.
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Jul 12 11:50:54 <ToAruShiroiNeko> SoapX north korea wouldnt qualify to be a place holder for a country
Jul 12 11:51:03 <FastCreeper4> TheDruId: Who's Fred?
Jul 12 11:51:10 <ToAruShiroiNeko> north korea is at best a theme park
Jul 12 11:51:14 <Prodego> Mike_H: ello ello
Jul 12 11:51:16 <FastCreeper4> With a few nukes somewhere
Jul 12 11:51:27 <ScientificAlan> Lol
Jul 12 11:51:29 <ToAruShiroiNeko> thats the main attraciton FastCreeper4
Jul 12 11:51:43 <FastCreeper4> ToAruShiroiNeko: hehe
Jul 12 11:52:01 <ScientificAlan> I know how to build a nuke
Jul 12 11:52:10 <FastCreeper4> It wouldn't surprise me if North Korea finally launches an ICBM, only for the interial navigation system to fail spectacularly and send it careening down into their own country :P
Jul 12 11:52:17 <FastCreeper4> *inertial navigation
Jul 12 11:52:27 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: So do I
Jul 12 11:52:37 <FastCreeper4> Say, where can I get a few kilograms of highly encriched uranium? :P
Jul 12 11:52:44 <FastCreeper4> *enriched
Jul 12 11:52:48 <FastCreeper4> Good grief, what's wrong with my typing today?
Jul 12 11:52:50 <TheDruId> FastCreeper4, See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Looney_Tunes_and_Merrie_Melodies_characters#F , Fred Sheepdog.
Jul 12 11:54:04 <FastCreeper4> TheDruId: Okay, but I'm still confused
Jul 12 11:54:55 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: Actually, my high school chem teacher had a Cs-137 disk sample; we'd often get out the geiger counter (a true, Cold War-style Civil Defense one at that) and scare the kiddies with it :P
Jul 12 11:55:05 <TheDruId> FastCreeper4, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Wolf_and_Sam_Sheepdog greeted each other at the start of workdays, and said goodbye at the end. Non-office humor.
Jul 12 11:55:31 <ScientificAlan> Get about 200 pounds of uranium-235, cast it into in a large, hollow sphere with a ball inside too small to go critical. Get a lot of powerful explosives, surrounding the uranium. Detonate explosives. Happy holidays.
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Jul 12 11:55:53 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: Isn't that a plutonium core bomb you're describing?
Jul 12 11:55:55 <ScientificAlan> Hi IDoH
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Jul 12 11:56:04 <ScientificAlan> And actually, I meant uranium
Jul 12 11:56:21 <ScientificAlan> *plutonium
Jul 12 11:56:29 <IDoH> Hey ScientificAlan
Jul 12 11:56:51 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: Also, there's the small problem that the triggering explosion has to be perfectly symmetrical :P
Jul 12 11:57:01 <FastCreeper4> Not impossible, but you'd need precise timings and some fairly accurate calculations
Jul 12 11:57:05 <ScientificAlan> I know that
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Jul 12 11:57:25 <FastCreeper4> A uranium core bomb is a bit easier to build, though less powerful
Jul 12 11:57:33 <ScientificAlan> Or, there's another way to make the bomb.
Jul 12 11:58:40 <FastCreeper4> Don't train your nuclear reactor operators in proper SCRAM procedures? :P
Jul 12 11:59:29 <FastCreeper4> And preferably have them use an RBMK reactor :P
Jul 12 11:59:33 <TheDruId> If Rickover says do it, do it. What more do you need?
Jul 12 11:59:45 <ScientificAlan> Get 2 or more large disks of plutonium that aren't going to explode. (Yet, that is) Have them close together. Get a strong explosive to blow them together. Done.
Jul 12 12:00:19 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: Doesn't that cause the risk of a criticality before the bomb actually goes off, though?
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Jul 12 12:00:49 <ScientificAlan> It might explode a bit early, though
Jul 12 12:01:03 <ScientificAlan> So put it together where you plan to detonate it
Jul 12 12:01:10 <ScientificAlan> And don't shake it a lot
Jul 12 12:01:32 <FastCreeper4> "Don't shake it a lot"
Jul 12 12:01:43 <FastCreeper4> Of all the things to put on your bomb casing :P
Jul 12 12:01:47 <ScientificAlan> *shake shake shake* BOOM!
Jul 12 12:04:42 <wolfgang42> Handle with care, this side up.
Jul 12 12:04:51 <FastCreeper4> "THIS SIDE TOWARD ENEMY"
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Jul 12 12:05:11 <FastCreeper4> Of course, on a nuke I guess that'd be painted on all sides of the warhead :P
Jul 12 12:06:14 <ScientificAlan> "Run if you are nice to the maker of this bomb. Otherwise, press this button."
Jul 12 12:06:22 <TheDruId> Ionic assault.
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Jul 12 12:07:32 <FastCreeper4> Actually, I was reading about this thing the other day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2A3_Kondensator_2P
Jul 12 12:07:40 <FastCreeper4> Another wonderful example of Stalinist Soviet engineering :P
Jul 12 12:07:53 <ScientificAlan> I want a talking bomb that tells me to set it off all the time.
Jul 12 12:08:15 <ScientificAlan> Just so I can say when I die, "The voices told me to"
Jul 12 12:08:21 <ScientificAlan> XD
Jul 12 12:08:31 <FastCreeper4> Lol
Jul 12 12:08:35 <FastCreeper4> Relatedly: http://xkcd.com/1168/
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Jul 12 12:10:01 <ScientificAlan> Lol
Jul 12 12:10:25 <TheDruId> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Button,_Button_(The_Twilight_Zone)#
Jul 12 12:10:39 <ScientificAlan> I know another way to make a nuclear bomb.
Jul 12 12:10:54 <ScientificAlan> Ask the people who made the nuclear reactors in Japan.
Jul 12 12:11:11 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: General Electric :P
Jul 12 12:11:26 <FastCreeper4> I believe the Fukishima Nuclear Reactors were General Electric BWRs
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Jul 12 12:11:35 <FastCreeper4> Or you could ask whomever designed the Soviet RBMK reactors
Jul 12 12:11:50 <ScientificAlan> Better idea, use google.
Jul 12 12:11:58 <FastCreeper4> Which has a *positive void coefficient* at low pressures :\
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Jul 12 12:12:17 <MartijnHH> FastCreeper4: isn't it sort of odd to call something Stalinist engineering of which development started a year after Stalin's death?
Jul 12 12:12:27 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: Actually, I've also recently started playing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFCON_(video_game) :P
Jul 12 12:12:36 <FastCreeper4> MartijnHH: Stalinist refers to more than just Stalin's reign of power
Jul 12 12:12:47 <FastCreeper4> MartijnHH: See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism
Jul 12 12:13:11 <FastCreeper4> Summed up, it's the Soviet's "Hey America, my tank is *bigger* than yours!" era
Jul 12 12:13:26 <ScientificAlan> Lol
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Jul 12 12:14:05 <Dusti> XD
Jul 12 12:14:17 <MartijnHH> FastCreeper4: that's a fairly limited view of Stalinism
Jul 12 12:14:28 <FastCreeper4> MartijnHH: From a militaristic point of view, it's true
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Jul 12 12:15:25 <ScientificAlan> Know what you say when your car was made in the Soviet Union?
Jul 12 12:15:33 <FastCreeper4> MartijnHH: That is to say, my "summed up" statement is true when looking at the Soviet military and their related engineering and technological directions
Jul 12 12:15:35 <MartijnHH> maybe for the odd 15 years between '40 and '55
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Jul 12 12:15:44 <ScientificAlan> It keeps Stalin when I go to drive it.
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Jul 12 12:15:55 <FastCreeper4> MartijnHH: Obviously, the Stalinist period encompasses far more than just the military of the time
Jul 12 12:16:02 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: Heh
Jul 12 12:16:05 <TheDruId> For those who like graphics: http://xkcd.com/1180/
Jul 12 12:16:29 <FastCreeper4> TheDruId: I show that to everyone who comes to me complaining that they think they have a computer virus
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Jul 12 12:17:04 <MartijnHH> ScientificAlan: No, you say "why the hell am I driving a 25 year old car?"
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Jul 12 12:17:27 <FastCreeper4> MartijnHH: *whoosh*
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Jul 12 12:18:18 <TheDruId> I show it to people who mouth generalities like "All Venn diagrams show intersecting circles."
Jul 12 12:18:56 <MartijnHH> maybe you should draw a Venn diagram showing the difference between Venn diagrams, and diagrams showing intersecting circles
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Jul 12 12:22:22 <FastCreeper4> https://munin.fastlizard4.org/fastlizard4.org/ridley.fastlizard4.org/if_eth0-week.png o_o
Jul 12 12:22:25 * TheDruId is not a fan of social media: http://www.despair.com/social-media-venn-diagram.html
Jul 12 12:22:40 <FastCreeper4> 700 Mbpm o_o
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Jul 12 12:24:46 <ScientificAlan> Nice
Jul 12 12:24:52 <ScientificAlan> So I'm a stalker
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Jul 12 12:25:16 <ScientificAlan> Facebook is fun, though. You can stalk anyone you want, and they never know.
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Jul 12 12:27:07 <ScientificAlan> Am I the only person who thinks ".shtml" looks like ".shitmail"
Jul 12 12:27:09 <ScientificAlan> ?
Jul 12 12:28:01 <ScientificAlan> Lol, secure html isn't shit mail, but it's still funny.
Jul 12 12:28:32 <SoapX> anyone remember pmshell.exe
Jul 12 12:28:37 <SoapX> i always thought that was hilarious
Jul 12 12:28:54 <SoapX> also dosshell kiiiiiind of looks like "dos hell"
Jul 12 12:29:07 <ScientificAlan> Lol
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Jul 12 12:29:36 <ScientificAlan> What makes pmshell funny, though? I don't get it.
Jul 12 12:29:44 <SoapX> PMS Hell
Jul 12 12:29:49 <ScientificAlan> PMS?
Jul 12 12:29:52 <SoapX> PMS Hell was never in the mainstream Windows OS, though, only OS/2
Jul 12 12:30:03 <SoapX> wich was like the hipster version of Windows
Jul 12 12:30:08 <ScientificAlan> What's PMS?
Jul 12 12:30:09 <FastCreeper4> SoapX: LOL
Jul 12 12:30:11 <TheDruId> ScientificAlan, GIYF.
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Jul 12 12:30:32 <ScientificAlan> Explain.
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Jul 12 12:30:35 <ScientificAlan> I don't get it
Jul 12 12:30:42 <FastCreeper4> TheDruId: GIYF?
Jul 12 12:30:45 <SoapX> the funny thing is that it stood for "Presentation Manager Shell", so even as an acronym it's still PMS
Jul 12 12:30:59 <FastCreeper4> SoapX: That's hilarious
Jul 12 12:31:24 <ScientificAlan> That's what PMS means?
Jul 12 12:31:31 <TheDruId> FastCreeper4, "Google is your friend.", though I don't use it, myself.
Jul 12 12:31:38 <ScientificAlan> So Presentation Manager Shell hell?
Jul 12 12:31:45 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: *sigh*
Jul 12 12:32:01 <FastCreeper4> Is it safe to assume you don't have many female friends? :P
Jul 12 12:32:06 <FastCreeper4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMS
Jul 12 12:32:18 <ScientificAlan> No, I talk to tons of females
Jul 12 12:32:31 <Sutekh> LOL
Jul 12 12:32:35 <TheDruId> ScientificAlan, Not sure they'd like that dynamic.
Jul 12 12:32:37 <tzatziki> I don't think any of my female friends openly talk to me about PMS
Jul 12 12:32:37 <ScientificAlan> And just tell me what it means
Jul 12 12:32:46 <MartijnHH> I'm getting more and more embaressed I'm a Wikipedian
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Jul 12 12:33:00 <ScientificAlan> I EDIT WIKIPEDIA!
Jul 12 12:33:08 <TheDruId> If only there was some way to find out...
Jul 12 12:33:12 <ScientificAlan> But what does it mean?
Jul 12 12:33:17 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: I posted a link....
Jul 12 12:33:20 <FastCreeper4> FastCree~
Jul 12 12:33:23 <FastCreeper4> 09erm
Jul 12 12:33:27 <FastCreeper4> 09:32:16 < FastCreeper4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMS
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Jul 12 12:34:01 <ScientificAlan> Lol
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Jul 12 12:35:32 <ScientificAlan> I will now never look at pmshell the same again
Jul 12 12:35:53 <FastCreeper4> :P
Jul 12 12:35:54 <SoapX> ohhhhh boy this wasabi is hotter than i expected
Jul 12 12:36:10 <ScientificAlan> You are in love with wasabi?
Jul 12 12:36:14 <SoapX> there goes my reputatiion of being able to handle absurdly spicy foods with no trouble
Jul 12 12:36:17 <ScientificAlan> You think it's hot.
Jul 12 12:36:19 <Sutekh> THe hot in wasabi goes away almost instantaneously
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Jul 12 12:36:31 <ScientificAlan> You must really love that wasabi
Jul 12 12:36:36 <SoapX> i do
Jul 12 12:36:38 <Fox2k12> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7NYJBGErN0 <-- :P
Jul 12 12:36:49 <SoapX> i ♥♥♥♥♥ wasabi
Jul 12 12:36:51 <Sutekh> Either ScientificAlan just fell off a cabbage truck or he/she is "dumbass" trolling
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Jul 12 12:37:01 <ScientificAlan> ?
Jul 12 12:37:10 <SoapX> Sutekh i remember Alan being similarly clueless on somne other discussions a few weeks ago
Jul 12 12:37:15 <SoapX> im giving him the benefit of the doubt
Jul 12 12:37:25 <Sutekh> Okay
Jul 12 12:37:32 <SoapX> i dont remember what it was
Jul 12 12:37:36 <ScientificAlan> I'm just confused about some terms
Jul 12 12:38:15 <JohnLewis> SoapX: I like it to. I wouldn't say Love.
Jul 12 12:38:25 <ScientificAlan> *too
Jul 12 12:38:51 <ScientificAlan> That bugs me.
Jul 12 12:39:03 <ScientificAlan> I always have to correct errors like that
Jul 12 12:39:26 <FastCreeper4> Jul 5 01:47:14 ridley kernel: device eth0 entered promiscuous mode
Jul 12 12:39:26 <FastCreeper4> Jul 5 01:47:36 ridley kernel: device eth0 left promiscuous mode
Jul 12 12:39:26 <Sutekh> Wasabi is a different kind of hot from, say, chili or jalapeno. The hot from the peppers lingers even after you eat or drink something that isn't hot. Wasabi's hot is temporary
Jul 12 12:39:33 <FastCreeper4> Don't you just love linux kernel messages? :P
Jul 12 12:39:50 <SoapX> i love all of those
Jul 12 12:39:53 <Sutekh> Do you know what it means FastCreeper4?
Jul 12 12:39:58 <ScientificAlan> My hot is permanent.
Jul 12 12:40:00 <FastCreeper4> Sutekh: Yup
Jul 12 12:40:06 <FastCreeper4> I just find the terminology humorous
Jul 12 12:40:09 <Sutekh> FastCreeper4: Okay cool
Jul 12 12:40:09 <TheDruId> SoapX, what about Wasabi-chan? http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-upbeat/injured-kitty-japan-takes-storm-204814906.html
Jul 12 12:40:17 <FastCreeper4> Like lp0 on fire
Jul 12 12:40:34 <FastCreeper4> Sutekh: Do *you* know what it means? :P
Jul 12 12:40:37 <Sutekh> Yeah someone had a sense of humor with that nomenclature
Jul 12 12:40:45 <Sutekh> FastCreeper4: Hehe yeah
Jul 12 12:40:59 <SoapX> a crow almost killed a cat? wow
Jul 12 12:41:13 <SoapX> crows arentk nown for attacking living creatures, even tiny ones
Jul 12 12:41:17 <Sutekh> Birds generally go for the eyes first
Jul 12 12:41:26 <Sutekh> And some crows are *HUGE*
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Jul 12 12:41:42 <Sutekh> And bloody loud :P
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Jul 12 12:42:26 <Qcoder00> HI Sutekh
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Jul 12 12:42:35 <Sutekh> Greetings Qcoder00
Jul 12 12:42:44 <Qcoder00> Really pissed off at the moment
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Jul 12 12:42:57 <Sutekh> Oh? What's up?
Jul 12 12:43:29 <Qcoder00> Guardian newspaper is going to get itself 'raided' at the rate it's putting out at best unsubstantiated comments on various US programmes
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Jul 12 12:43:51 <FastCreeper4> Goddammit emacs
Jul 12 12:43:56 <SoapX> oh right heh
Jul 12 12:43:59 * Sutekh had an emenada for lunch and unfortunately my co-workers are paying for it. :P
Jul 12 12:44:00 <FastCreeper4> Anyone know what the next-buffer hotkey is? :P
Jul 12 12:44:07 <TheDruId> Qcoder00, and you got turned down when you volunteered... ?
Jul 12 12:44:14 <Qcoder00> ROFL
Jul 12 12:44:16 <SoapX> emenada?
Jul 12 12:44:23 <Sutekh> Qcoder00: Programmes as in...?
Jul 12 12:44:24 <SoapX> never hard of it
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Jul 12 12:44:39 <Sutekh> SoapX: It's a spicy Spanish pastry filled with meat
Jul 12 12:44:40 <Qcoder00> TheDruiD: Personally , I'd love to see the Guardian bring down governments but that rarely hapens
Jul 12 12:44:46 <SoapX> empanada you mean?
Jul 12 12:44:53 <Sutekh> er Empanada, sorry
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Jul 12 12:44:54 <Sutekh> Yeah
Jul 12 12:44:56 <SoapX> ok cool
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Jul 12 12:44:56 <Qcoder00> Sutekh: Ongoing rows about who know what about PRISIM
Jul 12 12:45:38 <Qcoder00> The Guardian claimed this morning that NSA/Microsoft delibratly 'broke' an encryption feature in a number of products...
Jul 12 12:45:55 <SoapX> wow
Jul 12 12:45:55 <Sutekh> Qcoder00: Ah the latest truth about how yanks don't just treat citizens of other countries like they own them.
Jul 12 12:45:58 <SoapX> look at WP:VP/T
Jul 12 12:46:07 <SoapX> its just one Visual Editor complaint after another
Jul 12 12:46:10 <ScientificAlan> That moment when you are tagged in a status, everyone comments on it, and you have another notification every minute.
Jul 12 12:46:11 <TheDruId> Qcoder00, While I'm aware of problems with the US Government, the pitfalls of changing it by toppling it limit the likelihood of that resulting in a positive outcome.
Jul 12 12:46:14 <SoapX> its basicallly drowned out eveyrthing else
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Jul 12 12:46:35 <Qcoder00> SoapX: People don't like VE?
Jul 12 12:46:47 <Qcoder00> Or is it that it's buggier than Scotch loch?>
Jul 12 12:47:59 <ScientificAlan> I like it
Jul 12 12:48:06 <ScientificAlan> But sometimes it won't work
Jul 12 12:48:27 <ScientificAlan> I will click "Edit section", and it will sit there like nothing happened
Jul 12 12:48:54 <Qcoder00> It should have done a 'Google Beta' ?
Jul 12 12:48:57 <Qcoder00> ;)
Jul 12 12:49:02 <FastCreeper4> Heh
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Jul 12 12:49:47 <ScientificAlan> Pi R not squared, Pi R round.
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Jul 12 12:50:40 <Sutekh> take(Pi->face); :P
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Jul 12 12:50:54 <FastCreeper4> notsplot!
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Jul 12 12:51:10 <FastCreeper4> OI
Jul 12 12:51:17 <Qcoder00> Anyone have the results of the Snowden confernece in Moscow?
Jul 12 12:51:25 <Sutekh> Hrm I wish there was a way to throttle netspilit notifications in-channel on HexChat
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Jul 12 12:51:35 <Qcoder00> (I'm Suprised with Snowden that no-one just ensured he had an 'accident')
Jul 12 12:51:36 <NotASpy> Qcoder00: is that like the Vauxhall Conference ?
Jul 12 12:51:45 <Qcoder00> NotASpy: ROFL
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Jul 12 12:52:13 <Sutekh> Qcoder00: I read today that the US has been strong-arming Latim America's to deny Snowdon asylum
Jul 12 12:52:19 <ScientificAlan> Speaking of Snowden, my dad said the most true thing ever.
Jul 12 12:52:29 <NotASpy> ScientificAlan: it's a lie.
Jul 12 12:52:30 <ScientificAlan> Snowden deserves a medal.
Jul 12 12:52:34 <Sutekh> Just like gangsters used to do back during US prohibition
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Jul 12 12:52:39 <TheDruId> Qcoder00, some accidents take longer to show up than others.
Jul 12 12:52:42 <FastCreeper4> Sutekh: The US has been strong-arming everyone
Jul 12 12:52:46 <Qcoder00> Snowden gets a medal for breaking the law?
Jul 12 12:52:50 <ScientificAlan> Yes
Jul 12 12:52:52 <Sutekh> FastCreeper4: Yep
Jul 12 12:52:55 <Qcoder00> How so?
Jul 12 12:53:00 <Sutekh> Just likle gangsters
Jul 12 12:53:16 <NotASpy> ScientificAlan: if he does the 100m in 9.57s or faster, he'll get a medal.
Jul 12 12:53:24 * FastCreeper4 guffaws
Jul 12 12:53:25 <Sutekh> Telling the truth > than contrived illegality
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Jul 12 12:53:33 <ScientificAlan> He informed us that we were being spied on in illegal ways.
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Jul 12 12:53:43 <ScientificAlan> That should get him a medal.
Jul 12 12:53:51 <Sutekh> THat's like saying "What he did was illegal because WE say it is" then proceeding
Jul 12 12:53:52 <Qcoder00> Sutekh: But you don't tell 'secrets'!
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Jul 12 12:54:21 <Qcoder00> What's more he's making wild claims about the British agencies that he can't possibly have direct knowledge off
Jul 12 12:54:31 <Sutekh> People have a right to know when their privacy is being fracked over by a not-so benevolent government
Jul 12 12:54:46 <TheDruId> ScientificAlan, He broke the law to tell us others were breaking the law. I know what I call this when my nephews and nieces do it, though his may have been justified.
Jul 12 12:54:58 <Qcoder00> But 'Terriorists,... Pedos... DEMOCRATS!"XD
Jul 12 12:55:05 <Qcoder00> XD
Jul 12 12:55:12 <Sutekh> Qcoder00: He has/had access to NSA data, and the NSA has knowledge about UK activities/policies
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Jul 12 12:55:57 <Sutekh> If what he is saying is not true then the UK has nothing to worry about
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Jul 12 12:56:28 <TheDruId> Sutekh, right, because nothing bad has ever happened when something was untrue.
Jul 12 12:56:55 <Sutekh> TheDruId: Goes both ways.
Jul 12 12:57:14 <ScientificAlan> Snowden did the right thing, and I hope that eventually, people give up on trying to arrest him
Jul 12 12:57:21 <Qcoder00> "Disinformation" can be just as revealing
Jul 12 12:57:32 <Sutekh> If it's not true then it's an opinion and he has a right to it.
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Jul 12 12:57:33 <Qcoder00> ScientificAlan: He BROKE US laws...
Jul 12 12:57:38 <Sutekh> right to express it*
Jul 12 12:57:52 <ScientificAlan> So?
Jul 12 12:57:56 <Sutekh> Qcoder00: How many international laws do you think the US has broken so far?
Jul 12 12:58:03 <Qcoder00> Many
Jul 12 12:58:07 <KimiNewt> Do you think that everything should be revealed, as in
Jul 12 12:58:10 <KimiNewt> all those state secrets
Jul 12 12:58:11 <Sutekh> The Iraqi invasion, for one.
Jul 12 12:58:16 <MartijnHH> what exactly is an 'international law'?
Jul 12 12:58:17 <KimiNewt> or simply those that may hurt your privacy
Jul 12 12:58:21 <KimiNewt> or else your rights?
Jul 12 12:58:28 <Qcoder00> The Iraq Invasion was 'legal' according to the UK
Jul 12 12:58:41 <NotASpy> oh deary dear. B787 having a smoking issue at LHR this afternoon.
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Jul 12 12:58:46 <Sutekh> MartijnHH: UN resolution
Jul 12 12:58:53 <Qcoder00> NotASpy:??
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Jul 12 12:59:24 <KimiNewt> yeah countries really give a shit about those resolutions
Jul 12 12:59:30 <MartijnHH> a UN resolution is not a law
Jul 12 12:59:52 <KimiNewt> Maybe even more than they did of League of Nations resolutions! who knows
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Jul 12 13:00:08 <Sutekh> Oh yeah I forgot, the US is globalcop and responsible for creating and enforcing international law.
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Jul 12 13:00:18 <SoapX> yeah
Jul 12 13:00:32 <SoapX> after all the UN headquarters is in New York City
Jul 12 13:00:46 <SoapX> obviously the world trusts us to be their leaders
Jul 12 13:01:04 <Sutekh> They've got no choice.
Jul 12 13:01:11 <NotASpy> Qcoder00: Boeing Dreamliner was on fire, now all extinguished. All pax safe. Boeing undoubtedly having the mother of all hissy fits.
Jul 12 13:01:22 <Sutekh> "We come in peace (shoot to kill shoot to kill)
Jul 12 13:01:37 <Qcoder00> Erm
Jul 12 13:01:43 <FastCreeper4> Sutekh: lol
Jul 12 13:02:04 <FastCreeper4> Boldly going forward, 'cause we can't find reverse!
Jul 12 13:02:17 <KimiNewt> it's to the left and then down
Jul 12 13:02:17 <ScientificAlan> "We come in peace. Now worship us or be sent in pieces"
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Jul 12 13:02:30 <ScientificAlan> That's the US for you.
Jul 12 13:02:36 <SoapX> Peace is hell
Jul 12 13:02:46 <SoapX> Pray for war!
Jul 12 13:02:56 <NotASpy> how exactly do people think the UK was ever going to find its actions to be illegal when we, as a nation, invaded and conquered half the world at one point or other ?
Jul 12 13:03:07 <KimiNewt> half the world?
Jul 12 13:03:13 <KimiNewt> Let's not get ahead of ourselves, now
Jul 12 13:03:38 <SoapX> no i think hes right
Jul 12 13:03:41 <TheDruId> Sutekh, kudos for the star trekking reference.
Jul 12 13:03:50 <Qcoder00> NotASpy; Did the British Empire ever invade places on the pretext of liberation ?
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Jul 12 13:03:59 <SoapX> the UK had China, India, Africa, America and pretty much everywhere else except Europe under its control
Jul 12 13:04:03 <SoapX> and Canada
Jul 12 13:04:11 <SoapX> not all at the same time mind you
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Jul 12 13:04:20 <Sutekh> TheDruId: That was FastCreeper4 :P
Jul 12 13:04:22 <Qcoder00> And certain strategic rocks
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Jul 12 13:04:27 <TheDruId> NotASpy, though the UK generally stayed.
Jul 12 13:04:32 <NotASpy> Qcoder00: probably.
Jul 12 13:04:34 <Qcoder00> Don't forget the strategic rocks
Jul 12 13:04:38 <KimiNewt> yeah well
Jul 12 13:04:41 <KimiNewt> that's not half the world
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Jul 12 13:04:42 <FastCreeper4> Sutekh: Wait, you weren't?
Jul 12 13:04:43 <SoapX> i wonder why China never colonized
Jul 12 13:04:48 <KimiNewt> when did it have China?
Jul 12 13:04:50 <FastCreeper4> 10:01:32 < Sutekh> "We come in peace (shoot to kill shoot to kill)
Jul 12 13:04:55 <KimiNewt> Hong Kong?
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Jul 12 13:04:58 <SoapX> Boxer Rebellion
Jul 12 13:05:11 <Sutekh> FastCreeper4: That's from a song...I forget which one or by who...
Jul 12 13:05:12 <SoapX> at first there were four Chinas, one for each European country
Jul 12 13:05:16 <SoapX> then Britain came to dominate the others
Jul 12 13:05:19 <FastCreeper4> Sutekh: It's from Star Trekking
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Jul 12 13:05:24 <FastCreeper4> It's Captain Kirk's line
Jul 12 13:05:31 <FastCreeper4> *Star Trekkin'
Jul 12 13:05:40 <ScientificAlan> Lol
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Jul 12 13:06:06 <TheDruId> Sutekh, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ni2HCItKU
Jul 12 13:06:45 <Sutekh> haha
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Jul 12 13:08:23 <KimiNewt> I prefer the Picard Song
Jul 12 13:08:39 <ScientificAlan> I am an outcast from society
Jul 12 13:08:39 <KimiNewt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rYhRqf757I
Jul 12 13:09:01 <MartijnHH> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC73PHdQX04
Jul 12 13:09:31 <KimiNewt> jesus what
Jul 12 13:09:52 <MartijnHH> I think what you are looking for is 'sweet jesus please make it stop'
Jul 12 13:10:02 <Sutekh> lol
Jul 12 13:10:10 <ScientificAlan> I was at summer camp last week, and there was this female staff member named Anna. I fell in love with her. And now I'm constantly looking at facebook to see if she friended me... o.O
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Jul 12 13:10:19 <ScientificAlan> I really am weird
Jul 12 13:10:31 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: I concur with that assessment
Jul 12 13:10:35 * FastCreeper4 goes to warp
Jul 12 13:10:59 <ScientificAlan> I'm 13, and she's at least 16
Jul 12 13:10:59 <SoapX> : /
Jul 12 13:11:06 <KimiNewt> ...........
Jul 12 13:11:07 <SoapX> oh well ok
Jul 12 13:11:10 <FastCreeper4> ......
Jul 12 13:11:13 <KimiNewt> This whole thing just took a sharp left turn
Jul 12 13:11:14 <SoapX> i was picturing her being like 30
Jul 12 13:11:24 <SoapX> my first girlfriend was older than me
Jul 12 13:11:33 <ScientificAlan> Mine was 14, I was 12
Jul 12 13:11:34 <KimiNewt> All my gfs have been older than me
Jul 12 13:11:41 <ScientificAlan> Then she came out of the closet
Jul 12 13:11:45 <SoapX> haa
Jul 12 13:11:45 <Sutekh> Yeah I think puberty issues should be directed towards guidance personel or even better: parents
Jul 12 13:11:50 <KimiNewt> Yes yes
Jul 12 13:11:53 <Oxalate> It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Jul 12 13:12:07 <Sutekh> haha Oxalate
Jul 12 13:12:08 <FastCreeper4> Oxalate: ??
Jul 12 13:12:44 <ScientificAlan> Lol, WTF? XD
Jul 12 13:12:44 <SoapX> im not sure id trust my parents to help with relationships though honestly
Jul 12 13:12:50 <KimiNewt> well
Jul 12 13:12:51 <ScientificAlan> And same here
Jul 12 13:12:57 <KimiNewt> then ask your friends
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Jul 12 13:13:05 <KimiNewt> Do not ask us, disgruntled 20 and 30-somethings
Jul 12 13:13:16 <ScientificAlan> Know who I have help with relationships?
Jul 12 13:13:20 <ScientificAlan> Girls.
Jul 12 13:13:20 <KimiNewt> at best we'll give shoddy advice and deride you for being immature
Jul 12 13:13:23 <Sutekh> Seeking puberty advice online seems a bit naive
Jul 12 13:13:35 <KimiNewt> It invites mockery, as well
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Jul 12 13:13:54 <KimiNewt> Well, I think I did the same
Jul 12 13:14:00 <ScientificAlan> Best way to seek puberty advice: Don't, just do stuff with your girlfriend in bed.
Jul 12 13:14:12 <Qcoder00> LOL
Jul 12 13:14:23 <Qcoder00> How to really understand girls...
Jul 12 13:14:26 <Oxalate> ScientificAlan, not gay guys^
Jul 12 13:14:27 <SoapX> from the guy who didnt know what PMS was, we get this
Jul 12 13:14:30 <Qcoder00> Let them make you over
Jul 12 13:14:32 <Qcoder00> ;)
Jul 12 13:14:47 <Oxalate> but do you know who do really helps with realtionships?
Jul 12 13:14:48 <TheDruId> KimiNewt, you under-estimate the age range.
Jul 12 13:14:50 <Oxalate> Jerry Springer.
Jul 12 13:14:57 <ScientificAlan> Get them in bed, and who cares about that puberty stuff?
Jul 12 13:15:12 <Qcoder00> How to really understand girls... Let them make you one ;)
Jul 12 13:15:13 <KimiNewt> TheDruId - older?
Jul 12 13:15:23 * Qcoder00 is controversial here...
Jul 12 13:15:30 <TheDruId> KimiNewt, Retired. So, yes.
Jul 12 13:15:36 <ScientificAlan> Best way to understand girls: Smile and nod.
Jul 12 13:15:38 <KimiNewt> Well, there are exception
Jul 12 13:15:49 <KimiNewt> But I think that the bell curve's maximum is probably around 27?
Jul 12 13:15:50 <Qcoder00> And says that to truly understand male-female dynamics teenage males should spend at least a week as a girl... ;)
Jul 12 13:15:50 <Sutekh> The Aussie Dingo God
Jul 12 13:16:01 <MartijnHH> best way to understand girls: Pretend they're people
Jul 12 13:16:06 <SoapX> everyone knows wikipedians are all teenagers
Jul 12 13:16:20 <Qcoder00> Physically or mentally?
Jul 12 13:16:30 <TheDruId> MartijnHH, best way to understand them is to listen to them.
Jul 12 13:16:53 <KimiNewt> The best way to understand girls: make a hypothesis, observe and test it and finally verify it or toss it/make adjustments
Jul 12 13:16:55 <ScientificAlan> Or beat them
Jul 12 13:17:04 <ScientificAlan> Works for some guys.
Jul 12 13:17:04 <MartijnHH> that too TheDruId
Jul 12 13:17:13 <KimiNewt> You should be able to finish creating a theory just as you are moving into the next phase of life
Jul 12 13:17:14 <ScientificAlan> Not me, though.
Jul 12 13:17:42 <FastCreeper4> KimiNewt: Scientific method, eh?
Jul 12 13:17:50 <KimiNewt> That oughta do it
Jul 12 13:18:12 <KimiNewt> If only there was a field dedicated to studying the behaviour of people in a scientific way..
Jul 12 13:18:25 <FastCreeper4> Oh, you mean sociologists?
Jul 12 13:18:26 <FastCreeper4> :P
Jul 12 13:18:32 <KimiNewt> Like I was saying, if only there was a field dedicated to studying the behaviour of people in a scientific way..
Jul 12 13:18:39 <ScientificAlan> *finds emo girl and brings it to mom* "Can I keep it?"
Jul 12 13:18:57 <ScientificAlan> That's how to get a girl.
Jul 12 13:19:14 <KimiNewt> watch a Michael Cera movie and act as he does
Jul 12 13:19:15 <Sutekh> KimiNewt: Psychology?
Jul 12 13:19:17 <KimiNewt> He always gets the girl
Jul 12 13:19:33 <KimiNewt> (I was mocking the social sciences for not adhering to the scientific method)
Jul 12 13:19:42 <KimiNewt> (I'm sorry if that was not entirely clear)
Jul 12 13:19:47 <ScientificAlan> I like my idea more
Jul 12 13:19:56 <FastCreeper4> KimiNewt: Well, I got it, and I liked it :P
Jul 12 13:20:03 <KimiNewt> High five!
Jul 12 13:20:08 <FastCreeper4> ScientificAlan: I see you have much to learn
Jul 12 13:20:12 <FastCreeper4> KimiNewt: *returns*
Jul 12 13:20:18 <ScientificAlan> Lol
Jul 12 13:20:37 <FastCreeper4> KimiNewt: Obligatory xkcd, http://xkcd.com/435/
Jul 12 13:20:45 <ScientificAlan> How do I send queries?
Jul 12 13:21:00 <TheDruId> If only scientists didn't treat the topic as a dead subject, but made it interesting enough that they'd be listened to.
Jul 12 13:21:02 <KimiNewt> That is hanged as a poster in my workplace, FastCreeper4
Jul 12 13:21:07 <KimiNewt> Though I don't really like that comic
Jul 12 13:21:08 <FastCreeper4> KimiNewt: Lol
Jul 12 13:21:13 <KimiNewt> and not only because I'm not at the far right!
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Jul 12 13:21:24 <FastCreeper4> There's a few math profs at my university that have it on their door :P
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Jul 12 13:21:46 <KimiNewt> That's along with a few other XKCDs and Dilberts
Jul 12 13:21:48 <ScientificAlan> Isn't a query sent like "/query name blah blah blah"
Jul 12 13:21:56 <KimiNewt> I hung a Dinosaur Comic once on some board
Jul 12 13:21:59 <KimiNewt> it was not very popular ]:
Jul 12 13:22:23 <KimiNewt> We also have this thing about hanging (printed) Wikipedia articles on bathroom doors (inside)
Jul 12 13:22:41 <FastCreeper4> Heh
Jul 12 13:22:43 <KimiNewt> The topics I put there have never been too popular, and I haven't done it in a while. Should do it again.
Jul 12 13:22:55 <FastCreeper4> KimiNewt: Pick something stupid, like the history of the toilet :P
Jul 12 13:23:07 <ScientificAlan> Can anyone help me send a query?
Jul 12 13:23:10 <KimiNewt> I did the ISS and "Space disasters"
Jul 12 13:23:11 <ScientificAlan> o.o
Jul 12 13:23:20 <KimiNewt> Both were compiled and abridged from several articles
Jul 12 13:23:26 <KimiNewt> I think I'm gonna do The Elements
Jul 12 13:23:30 <KimiNewt> Two elements in each stall
Jul 12 13:23:58 <FastCreeper4> heh
Jul 12 13:24:03 <KimiNewt> Only problem is printing it
Jul 12 13:24:05 <FastCreeper4> Uniquadium or whatever? :P
Jul 12 13:24:09 <ScientificAlan> How is a query sent?
Jul 12 13:24:16 <KimiNewt> We only have an ink printer in my building
Jul 12 13:24:20 <FastCreeper4> KimiNewt: Or, even better
Jul 12 13:24:23 <FastCreeper4> Do the nasty compounds
Jul 12 13:24:27 <FastCreeper4> Like dioxygen diflouride
Jul 12 13:24:30 <ScientificAlan> Why am I not being answered?
Jul 12 13:24:41 <KimiNewt> I'll do my favorite elements, I'm afraid
Jul 12 13:24:45 <Sutekh> ScientificAlan: Ask in #freenode
Jul 12 13:24:52 <KimiNewt> As we were on the topic of science and women
Jul 12 13:24:58 <KimiNewt> I'll share with you the idea I wanted to try since forever
Jul 12 13:25:02 <FastCreeper4> KimiNewt: Or chlorine trifluoride
Jul 12 13:25:06 <SoapX> dude
Jul 12 13:25:07 <KimiNewt> and by "forever" I mean yesterday
Jul 12 13:25:21 <IDoH> ScientificAlan: You send me queries.
Jul 12 13:25:23 <FastCreeper4> ClF3 is nasty, nasty, nasty, nasty stuff
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Jul 12 13:25:49 <KimiNewt> The idea is to go to women in bars and try to explain about evolution
Jul 12 13:25:54 <KimiNewt> Or else "argue" about it
Jul 12 13:25:59 <FastCreeper4> http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2008/02/26/sand_wont_save_you_this_time.php
Jul 12 13:26:02 <KimiNewt> This is good for two reasons:
Jul 12 13:26:10 <KimiNewt> If you actually have a decent conversation - she's a keeper
Jul 12 13:26:17 <KimiNewt> and you get to educate, hopefully
Jul 12 13:26:31 <SoapX> http://membres.multimania.fr/bewulf/Divers11/Purity.png
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Jul 12 13:27:54 <KimiNewt> that's cool FastCreeper4
Jul 12 13:28:48 <KimiNewt> Anyway, I don't know if it's a good idea
Jul 12 13:29:00 <KimiNewt> but as long as the bar is quiet enough and you know no shame, it's worth a shot
Jul 12 13:29:03 <FastCreeper4> KimiNewt: Like I said, do articles on toilet humor or something like that :P
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Jul 12 13:29:13 <ScientificAlan> There, now I can send queries.
Jul 12 13:29:26 <SoapX> cool
Jul 12 13:29:33 <SoapX> arent you glad we were so helpful?
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Jul 12 13:29:39 <ScientificAlan> Yes.
Jul 12 13:29:43 <ScientificAlan> Somewhat
Jul 12 13:29:43 <KimiNewt> Did you RTFM
Jul 12 13:29:59 <KimiNewt> But I really haven't got how bars work in this city
Jul 12 13:30:05 <KimiNewt> I think I've only been in one like.. once
Jul 12 13:30:30 <KimiNewt> I imagine it is extremely likely it is very quiet and just filled with pretty ladies simply dying to talk about science
Jul 12 13:30:53 <ScientificAlan> Lol
Jul 12 13:31:05 <TheDruId> KimiNewt, Bars work by overcharging for drinks, with the extpectation that other people there will no longer be in their right mind.
Jul 12 13:31:31 <KimiNewt> Well yes, I was saying "work" as in "how the patrons behave"
Jul 12 13:31:32 <TheDruId> KimiNewt, Sorry, *expectation
Jul 12 13:31:44 <ScientificAlan> Bars with pretty ladies dying to talk about science.
Jul 12 13:31:48 <ScientificAlan> I want to go to one
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Jul 12 13:31:57 <ScientificAlan> Sadly, I doubt those exist.
Jul 12 13:32:09 <KimiNewt> Well
Jul 12 13:32:21 <KimiNewt> Once every ..quarter or six months I think
Jul 12 13:32:32 <KimiNewt> there's an event in the city called "Science on the Bar"
Jul 12 13:32:46 <KimiNewt> Where professors give many lectures to many laymen at many bars
Jul 12 13:32:53 <KimiNewt> It's always packed
Jul 12 13:32:55 <TheDruId> ScientificAlan, as I'm sure women doubt that ones with handsome men, do, too.
Jul 12 13:32:58 <SoapX> thats a one of a kind city you live in
Jul 12 13:33:18 <KimiNewt> But I'm sure it stems from it being unique and all
Jul 12 13:33:34 <KimiNewt> Not because some sort of intellectualism of the people
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Jul 12 13:33:41 <TheDruId> You're unique - just like everybody else. :p
Jul 12 13:33:50 <KimiNewt> I mean the event being unique
Jul 12 13:33:54 <KimiNewt> I didn't even refer to people
Jul 12 13:34:01 <KimiNewt> Which are all just about the same
Jul 12 13:34:06 <ScientificAlan> It's funny, the only girl I know that doesn't believe in a god hates science, so I can't talk about how the universe got here with her.
Jul 12 13:34:09 <KimiNewt> Perhaps it is people wanting to appear intelligent though
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Jul 12 13:34:27 <KimiNewt> well, alan, you're like twelve so it figures
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Jul 12 13:34:42 <KimiNewt> most people don't care at that age, though a lot of people won't care later either
Jul 12 13:34:45 <TheDruId> ScientificAlan, Finding out what interests /her/ would be a good starting point.
Jul 12 13:34:47 <ScientificAlan> *13
Jul 12 13:34:54 <MartijnHH> :)
Jul 12 13:35:10 * MartijnHH ruffles ScientificAlan's hair
Jul 12 13:35:12 <SoapX> wait
Jul 12 13:35:19 <SoapX> youre saying you only date atheists?
Jul 12 13:35:22 <ScientificAlan> No
Jul 12 13:35:43 <KimiNewt> I'm not sure I'll be able to date a religious person
Jul 12 13:35:52 <KimiNewt> Or at least a very religious person
Jul 12 13:36:25 <ScientificAlan> Who could date a very religious person?
Jul 12 13:37:02 <KimiNewt> Other religious people?
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Jul 12 13:37:13 <KimiNewt> People who don't care about that sort of thing?
Jul 12 13:37:16 <SoapX> 91% of americans consider themslves religious
Jul 12 13:37:27 <ScientificAlan> That's outdated
Jul 12 13:37:39 <KimiNewt> Well, I'm sure most of those are what you may call "Church of England"
Jul 12 13:37:52 <KimiNewt> Well, not most
Jul 12 13:37:54 <ScientificAlan> Now, 2% are atheists, 11% are agnostic
Jul 12 13:38:00 <KimiNewt> But a fair amount
Jul 12 13:38:09 <SoapX> CoE is dying
Jul 12 13:38:22 <ScientificAlan> Religion is dying
Jul 12 13:38:22 <SoapX> we call them Episcopalians here actually
Jul 12 13:38:24 <SoapX> bt still
Jul 12 13:38:25 <Sutekh> Can you tell how many have worn full-sized egg suits?
Jul 12 13:38:30 <SoapX> theyre like the shrinkingest church of all
Jul 12 13:38:40 <KimiNewt> I'm just using at a euphamism for people how may vaguely believe something, but don't do aynthing about it
Jul 12 13:38:46 <KimiNewt> and probably don't give it too much though, either
Jul 12 13:38:52 <SoapX> yeah
Jul 12 13:38:55 <KimiNewt> *using it as a
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Jul 12 13:39:51 <ScientificAlan> http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-08-13/national/35491519_1_new-atheism-atheist-groups-new-atheists
Jul 12 13:39:57 <ScientificAlan> That's like a year old, too
Jul 12 13:39:57 <TheDruId> My parents are an atheist and a Protestant Daughter of Job. Aimed us out the door to discover religion for ourselves. Their divorce was not about religious differences, but my mother's medical problems. Love sees beyond many things.
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Jul 12 13:41:02 <ScientificAlan> So now, like less than 60% are religious
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Jul 12 13:42:04 <ScientificAlan> I actually, when I am older, want to get the constitution changed.
Jul 12 13:42:26 <KimiNewt> good for you
Jul 12 13:42:33 <KimiNewt> I'm sure you'll ahve much power and influence
Jul 12 13:42:45 <ScientificAlan> I want to change it so people have freedom of AND from religion.
Jul 12 13:43:07 <ScientificAlan> Because right now, it really doesn't mention freedom from religion.
Jul 12 13:43:12 <Sutekh> The constitution gets "changed" on the fly on a case-by-case basis by the US government
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Jul 12 13:44:04 <Peter-C> Had a patient with a BAC of .4
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Jul 12 13:44:06 <Peter-C> :D
Jul 12 13:44:15 <FastCreeper4> 0.4?
Jul 12 13:44:18 <FastCreeper4> Wow.
Jul 12 13:44:22 <Peter-C> Yea
Jul 12 13:44:33 <Peter-C> He has "25"
Jul 12 13:44:44 <Peter-C> Yes, just "25" something.
Jul 12 13:45:03 <FastCreeper4> 25 shots of pure ethanol? :P
Jul 12 13:45:07 <Peter-C> Probably
Jul 12 13:45:10 <Oxalate> yay
Jul 12 13:45:11 <Oxalate> i found a USB key i forgot i had with old SHSH keys!
Jul 12 13:45:18 <Peter-C> Weird thing is, guy was wearing a suit
Jul 12 13:45:28 <FastCreeper4> Huh.
Jul 12 13:45:49 <Oxalate> was it Obama?
Jul 12 13:46:59 <MartijnHH> Peter-C: you don't get them in suits often
Jul 12 13:47:00 <MartijnHH> ?
Jul 12 13:47:12 <FastCreeper4> Oxalate: http://xkcd.com/617/
Jul 12 13:47:26 <Peter-C> Drunks normally are slobs
Jul 12 13:47:28 <Peter-C> He was fancy
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Jul 12 13:49:04 <MartijnHH> where do you work Peter-C?
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Jul 12 13:49:35 <Peter-C> The ambulnace
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Jul 12 13:49:54 <MartijnHH> ah, ok
Jul 12 13:50:40 <MartijnHH> the addiction clinic my sister works at has quite a bit fairly high functioning addicts, but I suppose they are more rare on the ambulance
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Jul 12 13:51:27 <KimiNewt> got disconnected
Jul 12 13:51:31 <KimiNewt> by my computer freezing
Jul 12 13:51:38 <KimiNewt> But that is all in the past
Jul 12 13:53:40 <Oxalate> Peter-C,would you work in a legal supervised injection site?
Jul 12 13:53:56 <Peter-C> wait wut
Jul 12 13:54:26 <Peter-C> MartijnHH - I would never be able to work in one of those places
Jul 12 13:54:28 <Peter-C> too depressing
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Jul 12 13:54:41 <Oxalate> I'm in Vancouver, my sister works at the Insite as a emergency nurse
Jul 12 13:56:09 <Oxalate> ie it's a special clinic where drug users can shoot up under medically supervised conditions
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Jul 12 13:57:55 <Peter-C> Oxalate - I had no idea those existed
Jul 12 13:58:04 <Peter-C> It sounded like some sort of lethal injection clinic
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Jul 12 13:58:48 <Oxalate> it's a place where people can exchange dirty needles for clean needles
Jul 12 13:59:20 <Oxalate> drug addicts can use Insite to shoot up in sanitary conditions
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Jul 12 14:00:17 <Peter-C> That's classy
Jul 12 14:00:39 <GabrielF> yeah its one of those things that are super-controversial in the US (or at least it was back when the drug war was higher on the agenda) but considered smart policy overseas
Jul 12 14:01:02 <Oxalate> In fact, we just provide a clean environnement to shoot up, sterile spoon, a disposable lighter, a surgical tube to help shoot up, sterile needles
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Jul 12 14:01:22 <Oxalate> we don't provide any drugs at all
Jul 12 14:01:49 <Oxalate> we just provide clean equipement and onsite help
Jul 12 14:01:58 <Oxalate> if a user OD's, we can act fast
Jul 12 14:02:12 <Oxalate> if a user wants to quit his addiction, we're also there for help
Jul 12 14:02:45 <Oxalate> In 2009, close to 500 overdoses happened, none of them died.
Jul 12 14:02:55 <iSuicidalZerg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb8HIlBs_Xw
Jul 12 14:03:50 <Oxalate> who funds Insite? Taxpayer money and private donations.
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Jul 12 14:06:41 <Oxalate> hi Dusti
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Jul 12 14:07:06 <Dusti> Hey Oxalate :)
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Jul 12 14:11:19 <Qcoder00> Oxalate: THis clinc runs needle exchange as well?
Jul 12 14:11:58 <Qcoder00> MartijnHH: Does this clinc help addicts reduce the dose over time?
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Jul 12 14:12:58 <Qcoder00> I don't see why giving addicts 'safe' sites is controversial...
Jul 12 14:13:06 <Qcoder00> Provided you are helping them off the drugs...
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Jul 12 14:13:16 <Qcoder00> And Jailing pushers for a VERY LONG TIME
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Jul 12 14:22:17 <jorgeluis> hi.
Jul 12 14:22:32 <jorgeluis> Has anyone encountered weird edit conflicts?
Jul 12 14:22:33 <jorgeluis> today
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Jul 12 14:35:24 <MartijnHH> is the Dutch writer Nescio known at all in the US/UK/Wherever you might be?
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Jul 12 14:40:11 <jorgeluis> no
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Jul 12 15:17:50 <Oxalate> Qcoder00, needle exchange yes of course
Jul 12 15:17:56 <Oxalate> all legal under the federal law
Jul 12 15:18:06 <Qcoder00> Hmm
Jul 12 15:18:25 <Oxalate> Even the supreme court of canada did a ruling on this
Jul 12 15:18:37 <Oxalate> thus keeping Insite open indefinitively.
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Jul 12 15:24:54 <Qcoder00> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-23291268 -:(
Jul 12 15:25:16 <Qcoder00> Seems there's another Copeland in the making :(
Jul 12 15:25:38 <JohnLewis> Qcoder00: An Ethiopian Airlines also landed and closed down Heathrow.
Jul 12 15:25:49 <Qcoder00> Yeah
Jul 12 15:26:09 <MartijnHH> "People were terrified and very scared"
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Jul 12 15:26:30 <people> You don't say!
Jul 12 15:26:56 <SoapX> oh no the Ethiopians are coming
Jul 12 15:27:02 <Qcoder00> What next? Real Welsh Zombies looking for Organssss? !
Jul 12 15:27:10 <Qcoder00> XD
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Jul 12 15:32:36 <Qcoder00> JohnLewis: At least it wasn't QANTAS
Jul 12 15:32:39 <Qcoder00> ;)
Jul 12 15:32:43 <JohnLewis> :P
Jul 12 15:32:58 <Qcoder00> QANTAS = Quaintly Australian Not Totally Air Safe...
Jul 12 15:33:00 <Qcoder00> ;)
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Jul 12 15:35:47 <SoapX> oh i love funny acronyms
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Jul 12 15:35:58 <SoapX> i used to have a page full of them
Jul 12 15:36:01 <SoapX> some original, some not
Jul 12 15:36:04 <Qcoder00> "Things not to say in you RfA" 1: I know Jimbo personally...
Jul 12 15:36:10 <Qcoder00> *your
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Jul 12 15:37:01 <SoapX> 2: My nominator approached me on IRC and pushed me to run
Jul 12 15:37:03 <Qcoder00> "Things not to say in your RfA:" 2: I wish to become an admin so I can take out petty personal vendettas against contributors I disagree with...
Jul 12 15:37:38 <Qcoder00> "Things not to say in an RfA" : 4: I speak da english good...
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Jul 12 15:37:56 <Matthew_> #5: I can count good ;)
Jul 12 15:38:36 <Qcoder00> "Things Not to say in an RfA:" I don't actually need the tools I need it to fell BIG...
Jul 12 15:39:09 <MartijnHH> acutally, I would immediately !vote for anyone saying #2, if they phrase it like that
Jul 12 15:39:34 <NotASpy> felling BIG is better than feeling BIG, especially if you're not called BIG...
Jul 12 15:39:37 <Qcoder00> "Thung Not to say in an Rfa:" 7: When I get the tools, You will feel my roar fools..."
Jul 12 15:40:25 <Qcoder00> "Things not to say in an RfA'""8: I've managed to get over 50 articles deleted !"
Jul 12 15:40:58 <Qcoder00> "Things not to say in an RfA"" 9: I would like tools so I can meet interesting teenagers.."
Jul 12 15:41:16 <Qcoder00> (Controversial?)
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Jul 12 15:41:22 <SoapX> lol
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Jul 12 15:42:06 <Qcoder00> "Things not to say in RfA"!10: I would like the tools so that I can ban the idiot that keeps on saying the Spectrum was better than the C64!"
Jul 12 15:42:24 <Qcoder00> (Everyone knows the Spectrum WAS superior though)
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Jul 12 15:43:05 <Qcoder00> Please come in people... I could do with new materaikl
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Jul 12 15:43:22 <NotASpy> Qcoder00: it was not, it was built in a watch factory in Dundee by communists.
Jul 12 15:43:35 <Qcoder00> LIES!!
Jul 12 15:43:54 <Qcoder00> I had a BBC Micro anyway ;)
Jul 12 15:44:21 <NotASpy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_strike
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Jul 12 15:45:05 <Qcoder00> "Things not to say in RFA""11: I would like admin powers so I can ensure the Fourth Reich takes it glorius place in the New Wiki ORDER! "
Jul 12 15:45:40 <SoapX> 12: I want the tools to stop vandlaism on those TV shows I wacthj
Jul 12 15:46:11 <Qcoder00> 13: I am being encouraged to run by my local minister
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Jul 12 15:46:25 <SoapX> that one seems OK
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Jul 12 15:46:40 <SoapX> not exactly something that'd get my instant support but not bad either
Jul 12 15:46:41 <MartijnHH> 14: I am being encouraged to run by my local Scientology chapter
Jul 12 15:46:46 <FastCreeper4> 15: I followed Qcoder00's advice and all I got was this stupid oppose!
Jul 12 15:46:48 <FastCreeper4> ;)
Jul 12 15:47:15 <Qcoder00> 16: I would like admin tools so I can persue my own efforts against the clear homosexual agenda
Jul 12 15:47:32 <SoapX> good one
Jul 12 15:47:39 <FastCreeper4> 17: Hi, what site is this again?
Jul 12 15:47:40 <MartijnHH> 17: Ending the answers to all questions with "thus it was written and thus it shall be"
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Jul 12 15:48:13 <Qcoder00> 18: I don't edit that much, I am only a visitor from Commons..
Jul 12 15:48:31 <MartijnHH> or rather "but I'm an admin on Commons"
Jul 12 15:49:03 <Qcoder00> 19: I have tenure! I shouldn't just be an admin I should be on the 'committe' !
Jul 12 15:49:45 * Matthew_ facepalms
Jul 12 15:49:56 <Qcoder00> Matthew_: ?
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Jul 12 15:50:24 <Matthew_> The last one made me laugh
Jul 12 15:50:44 <Qcoder00> 20: Of course I have experience, I have had more articles deleted than anyone else :)
Jul 12 15:51:21 <SoapX> good one
Jul 12 15:51:23 <Qcoder00> 21: No , No , No, I have NEVER attempted to delete the main page.
Jul 12 15:51:56 <JohnLewis> Qcoder00: I wanted to try on Wikidata :P
Jul 12 15:52:16 <JohnLewis> But I would actually delete it then :/
Jul 12 15:52:46 * FastCreeper4 deletes JohnLewis as a rogue sysop
Jul 12 15:53:05 <JohnLewis> FastCreeper4: No D:
Jul 12 15:53:15 <Qcoder00> 22: I have more degrees than anyone here, and I know the handshakes !
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Jul 12 15:53:52 <Qcoder00> 23: I am WOMAN!!
Jul 12 15:53:53 <JohnLewis> Qcoder00: No I have more! I habe 28 degrees... Celcius ;)
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Jul 12 15:54:43 <Qcoder00> 24: I'm not yet an admin because Wikipedia has a hetronormative bias!!
Jul 12 15:55:24 <SoapX> *racist
Jul 12 15:55:26 <Qcoder00> 25: Check my history, I have a reputation to defend :)
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Jul 12 15:55:37 <MartijnHH> 24: And if you don't make me an admin, we will have to contact the foundation to make sure we get our sizable donation back, so you'd better prepare your legal department
Jul 12 15:55:39 <SoapX> 26: I need to be an admin to clean up all the racists on Wikipedia
Jul 12 15:55:52 <SoapX> +++ to MartijnHH's 24
Jul 12 15:56:04 <Matthew_> +1 to MartijnHH :P
Jul 12 15:56:05 <SoapX> Im kind of surprised we havent seen one like that yet
Jul 12 15:56:13 <Qcoder00> 37: I would like to use the tools to ensure Wikipedia stance on ethnicity is whiter than white ;)
Jul 12 15:56:18 <Qcoder00> *27 sorry
Jul 12 15:56:18 <ToAruShiroiNeko> Qcoder00 no such thing as woman
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Jul 12 15:56:25 <ToAruShiroiNeko> thats something the government wants you to believe\
Jul 12 15:56:46 <SoapX> actual;ly I did come across an RfA sort of like that once, but it never got transcluded
Jul 12 15:56:56 <Qcoder00> 28: Male admins, Female admins... No Androgynes? Vote for me...
Jul 12 15:57:09 <SoapX> and they werent threatening to sue, just thought they should automatically get adminship because they worked for the gov't
Jul 12 15:57:42 <Qcoder00> 29: I require tool access to protect 'National Security' ;)
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Jul 12 15:58:04 <MartijnHH> 30: I require tool access to review all deleted content
Jul 12 15:58:05 <ItzExor> to go for the androgynous candidate you have to be voted undetermined by 5 mebers of each sex
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Jul 12 15:58:52 <Qcoder00> 31:.. and further to needing 'National Security' access, if you don't grant it, we'll start waterbaording all the admins we CAN find...
Jul 12 15:59:44 <Qcoder00> 32: I'd like access to the tools so I can find the real name and number of the hot admin that blocked me for a week, the strict fox...
Jul 12 16:00:16 <ToAruShiroiNeko> Qcoder00 I dont think wikipedians should be waterboarded
Jul 12 16:00:21 <ToAruShiroiNeko> we have better methods
Jul 12 16:00:25 <ToAruShiroiNeko> like WP:ANI
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Jul 12 16:01:11 <Qcoder00> 33: The power of Christ Compells me... The Power of Christ Compels me to ask for tools access
Jul 12 16:01:27 <ToAruShiroiNeko> tools are jewish
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Jul 12 16:02:03 <Qcoder00> 34: I would like access to admin tools so i can ensure all Wikipedians have access to free high quality pornography of all kinds.
Jul 12 16:02:22 <Qcoder00> (Or is that more applicable to Commons RfA's?)
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Jul 12 16:02:31 <Matthew_> Both?
Jul 12 16:03:16 <SoapX> lol
Jul 12 16:03:50 <Qcoder00> 35: I require admin level access so I can support the results of my pysch thesis more effectivly...
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Jul 12 16:06:17 <SoapX> my pish thesis
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Jul 12 16:07:51 <Qcoder00> Hello?
Jul 12 16:07:56 <Qcoder00> Services are back?
Jul 12 16:08:02 <Matthew_> Yay ^^
Jul 12 16:08:31 <Qcoder00> Time for a topci change?
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Jul 12 16:09:21 <Matthew_> What needs to be changed?
Jul 12 16:09:42 <SoapX> topic is open
Jul 12 16:09:49 <SoapX> you can change it to "poop" if you want
Jul 12 16:09:56 <Jasper_Deng> easy way to get banned though
Jul 12 16:10:19 <SoapX> it would draw in traffic though!Q
Jul 12 16:10:27 <SoapX> and this channel aklways needs more people
Jul 12 16:10:34 <ToAruShiroiNeko> one ban a day keeps the doctor away
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Jul 12 16:11:47 <Matthew_> Speaking of the topic, I need to figure out how to disable VisualEdtior...
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Jul 12 16:12:49 * Qcoder00 has changed the topic to: English Wikipedia | Status: Up (http://status.wikimedia.org/) | Channel guidelines: http://bit.ly/WP-IRC | Need a chanop? Ask here or in #wikimedia-ops | For urgent admin help, say !admin <request>; for revdel, /join #wikipedia-en-revdel | No public logging | Cloak requests: http://bit.ly/IRCcloak | VisualEditor has been enabled: www.enwp.org/WP:VE | Featured : http://en.wikipedia.org/w
Jul 12 16:12:55 <Qcoder00> Darn it
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Jul 12 16:13:01 <Qcoder00> Clipped :(
Jul 12 16:13:09 * Qcoder00 has changed the topic to: English Wikipedia | Status: Up (http://status.wikimedia.org/) | Channel guidelines: http://bit.ly/WP-IRC | Need a chanop? Ask here or in #wikimedia-ops | For urgent admin help, say !admin <request>; for revdel, /join #wikipedia-en-revdel | No public logging | Cloak requests: http://bit.ly/IRCcloak | VisualEditor has been enabled: www.enwp.org/WP:VE
Jul 12 16:13:20 <Qcoder00> Why is the topic open?
Jul 12 16:13:35 <Matthew_> Qcoder00: Why not?
Jul 12 16:13:49 <Qcoder00> OK How very trusting...
Jul 12 16:15:15 <Fluffernutter> can we not trust you with it?
Jul 12 16:15:22 <Fluffernutter> if we can't, we *can* lock it...
Jul 12 16:15:57 <FastCreeper4> /topic Never gonna give you up
Jul 12 16:16:06 <MartijnHH> we have an entire encyclopedia that is visited by millions daily, and we allow anyone to edit it. Fuzzing over the topic of an IRC channel seems rather trivial in comparison
Jul 12 16:16:20 <NotASpy> ^ +1
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Jul 12 16:16:47 <Matthew_> ^ this
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Jul 12 16:17:10 * Matthew_ slaps FastCreeper4 screaming "No rick-rolling here!"
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Jul 12 16:18:25 <SoapX> hi fwuffy
Jul 12 16:18:36 <SoapX> how is you today
Jul 12 16:19:06 <jackmcbarn> can someone who can move pages do something about Wikipedia:RatherBeHuntingGuy ?
Jul 12 16:19:08 <SoapX> also did you seruously want to disavle Visual Editor?
Jul 12 16:19:10 <Fluffernutter> too much housework, not enough motivation
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Jul 12 16:19:25 <Qcoder00> You need a maid?
Jul 12 16:19:33 <Qcoder00> <giggles>
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Jul 12 16:19:42 <MartijnHH> jackmcbarn: you can't move pages?
Jul 12 16:19:49 <jackmcbarn> no
Jul 12 16:19:56 <jackmcbarn> im editing as an ip
Jul 12 16:19:59 <MartijnHH> ah
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Jul 12 16:20:44 <Matthew_> SoapX: Yes, what I do is too complex for VisualEditor, judging by the bug reports
Jul 12 16:20:45 <MartijnHH> drat SoapX, you're fast
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Jul 12 16:21:08 * MartijnHH would have moved it to AfC space by the way, but userspace is fine I guess
Jul 12 16:21:37 <jackmcbarn> wrong userspace
Jul 12 16:21:41 <jackmcbarn> User:RatherBeHuntingGuy1124 made it
Jul 12 16:21:49 <SoapX> i'd say like 90% chance he wants that in mainspace
Jul 12 16:21:53 <SoapX> and got confused
Jul 12 16:22:01 <SoapX> and didnt realize it would move his talk page too
Jul 12 16:22:25 <SoapX> so he'll probably end up moving it there soon
Jul 12 16:23:18 <jackmcbarn> SoapX: you put it in an unrelated user's userspace
Jul 12 16:23:40 <SoapX> huh?
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Jul 12 16:23:52 <jackmcbarn> made by RatherBeHuntingGuy1124, you moved to RatherBeHuntingGuy
Jul 12 16:24:07 <SoapX> oh. weird
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Jul 12 16:24:58 <SoapX> now i messed it even worse
Jul 12 16:25:03 <SoapX> now he has no talk page
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Jul 12 16:25:20 <SoapX> efven though i thought i told it to move the talk page
Jul 12 16:25:31 <jackmcbarn> did he ever have a talk page?
Jul 12 16:25:47 <jackmcbarn> wait, he has one now
Jul 12 16:25:51 <SoapX> it was mostly just warnings but yes
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Jul 12 16:26:06 <SoapX> ok bbl
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Jul 12 16:32:05 <jackmcbarn> i just found sock puppets being used to make ClueBot NG commit vandalism. people are really good at coming up with creative ways to do stuff they're not supposed to do
Jul 12 16:32:53 <MartijnHH> thanks jackmcbarn. Did you act on it yet, or is action requried still?
Jul 12 16:33:06 <jackmcbarn> i opened an SPI. its in WP talk since im an IP
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Jul 12 16:33:26 <MartijnHH> link?
Jul 12 16:33:26 <jackmcbarn> Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Spud12345
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Jul 12 16:39:21 <MartijnHH> you're free to not log in obviously (as you clearly know your way around), but really, creating an account is much easier than having to come in here, and having to ask others to help you out.
Jul 12 16:39:56 <jackmcbarn> i know
Jul 12 16:40:20 <MartijnHH> so log in ;)
Jul 12 16:45:24 <jackmcbarn> heres the reason why i dont. it's really kind of embarrassing. i use the name jackmcbarn across the internet. problem is, 7 years ago, i registered with that name here and stupidly didn't set an email address. now i forget the password. i made all of 3 edits outside sandbox and my own userspace, so now i dont think i can apply to usurp.
Jul 12 16:46:49 <MartijnHH> meh, a grand total of 3 edits 7 years ago
Jul 12 16:46:57 <MartijnHH> methinks that shouldn't be much of a problem
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Jul 12 16:48:06 <MartijnHH> any crat around who has an Opinion on this?
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Jul 12 16:50:40 <MartijnHH> doesn't seem so
Jul 12 16:51:05 <MartijnHH> just requesting an usurp can't hurt though. Worst thing that can happen is you get a 'no'
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Jul 12 16:51:57 <jackmcbarn> what kills me is if my account were just a little bit older, it wouldve missed SUL and then i couldve just registered with my name elsewhere and got an SUL usurp easy
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Jul 12 17:02:38 <MartijnHH> did we have SUL back in 2006?
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Jul 12 17:05:12 <jackmcbarn> apparently. https://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/tools/sulinfo.php?username=Jackmcbarn&showinactivity=1&showblocks=1&hidelocked=1
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Jul 12 17:06:10 <MartijnHH> still, I would guess a 'crat would just shrug that off
Jul 12 17:07:52 <jackmcbarn> the other issue is "Please do not request usurpation of another account if your own user account is less than several months old"
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Jul 12 17:09:33 <MartijnHH> well, I'm not saying you have to, just that you have nothing to lose on it. If it'd be me, I'd probably IAR on it
Jul 12 17:10:00 <MartijnHH> you know your way well enough to suspect you have been a regular wikipedian longer than several months, account or not
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Jul 12 17:23:14 <SoapX> wiat what?
Jul 12 17:23:16 <SoapX> tell me more
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Jul 12 17:25:04 <jackmcbarn> SoapX: me?
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Jul 12 17:27:50 <SoapX> yeah
Jul 12 17:28:00 <SoapX> do you have the name 'jackmcbarn' anywhere on Wikipedia?
Jul 12 17:28:05 <SoapX> besides the dormant enwp account\
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Jul 12 17:28:15 <SoapX> because SUL finalization is coming
Jul 12 17:29:10 <jackmcbarn> no, thats the only place
Jul 12 17:29:29 <jackmcbarn> i just registered a "jackmcbarn2" account and am filling out an app to usurp
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Jul 12 17:33:00 <SoapX> ok
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Jul 12 17:33:13 <SoapX> do it now because 'crats wont be able to usurp names in a few more weeks
Jul 12 17:33:23 <SoapX> thats being outsourced to meta
Jul 12 17:33:30 <SoapX> and who knows how that will turn out
Jul 12 17:33:49 <SoapX> they will suddenly have ten times the workload the crats on enwiki are used to
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Jul 12 17:34:02 <SoapX> and might just decide to reject all the "low edit count" requests
Jul 12 17:35:08 <jackmcbarn> filed
Jul 12 17:35:27 <jackmcbarn> does it read okay? i dont want to get it rejected because i said something dumb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Usurpations#Jackmcbarn2_.E2.86.92_Jackmcbarn
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Jul 12 17:36:53 <SoapX> i wouldnt worry about it
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Jul 12 17:38:30 <SoapX> if I understand right about the SUL finalization, the worst case scenario is that if this request is rejected, all you have to do is go to some other wiki and make 42 dummy edits and you'll be considered the new owner of the SUL
Jul 12 17:38:40 <SoapX> because the age of the account isnt being factored in at all
Jul 12 17:39:27 <SoapX> and since it affects a ridiculously huge number of accounts, it's all being done by the software and no one's going to notice if someone's gaming the system by making dummy edits
Jul 12 17:39:41 <SoapX> even if they dont believe you about the other account being yours
Jul 12 17:39:48 <SoapX> so one way or another you should get in
Jul 12 17:39:55 <SoapX> besides I think the 'crats here are pretty nice
Jul 12 17:40:16 <jackmcbarn> my old account has SUL though
Jul 12 17:40:20 <jackmcbarn> so i cant just edit as it from somewhere else
Jul 12 17:40:28 <SoapX> how??
Jul 12 17:40:34 <SoapX> you said you hadnt used it since 2006
Jul 12 17:40:34 <jackmcbarn> idk but it does
Jul 12 17:40:38 <jackmcbarn> i havent
Jul 12 17:40:43 <SoapX> did you like log in once in 2008 or something?
Jul 12 17:40:57 <jackmcbarn> i dont think so
Jul 12 17:40:58 <jackmcbarn> http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/tools/sulinfo.php?username=Jackmcbarn&showinactivity=1&showblocks=1&hidelocked=1
Jul 12 17:41:08 <SoapX> hm
Jul 12 17:41:20 <SoapX> maybe SUL was automatic if no one else used the name anywhere
Jul 12 17:41:50 <SoapX> 'cause I know for sure that it was still possible to register a new account on enwiki in 2008 or so and not have it automaticlaly create a new SUL
Jul 12 17:42:54 <SoapX> its possible theyll babystep the process though
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Jul 12 17:44:12 <MartijnHH> SoapX: I think it might have been, I vaguely recall something of the sort
Jul 12 17:44:17 <MartijnHH> but I couldn't say for sure
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Jul 12 17:50:03 <Prabash> Hello
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Jul 12 17:51:28 <SoapX> hi prab
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Jul 12 17:52:18 <Prabash> I'm a bit confused here.. Is a user allowed to post pornographic content on her userpage?
Jul 12 17:52:38 <Prabash> Cause I welcomed a user and she had a darkvault page
Jul 12 17:52:55 <MartijnHH> yeah, I suppose so. If it becomes trolling, you can ask them not to.
Jul 12 17:53:14 <MartijnHH> Or if it is bothering you in general you can ask them not to
Jul 12 17:53:43 <Prabash> Ahh, I'm a bit etched
Jul 12 17:54:57 <sheer-hubris> It's entirely bannable, provided you are slightly creative in interpreting policy
Jul 12 17:55:24 <Prabash> Heh
Jul 12 17:55:50 <Prabash> I could post a link here but the chanops would eat me alive :D
Jul 12 17:56:19 <SoapX> link please
Jul 12 17:56:28 <SoapX> in PM if you want
Jul 12 17:56:33 <SoapX> oh wait
Jul 12 17:56:38 <SoapX> i can just use your contribs
Jul 12 17:56:56 <SoapX> you changed your username
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Jul 12 17:57:38 <Prabash> SoapX
Jul 12 17:57:41 <Prabash> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Charlotte_Tame/Other
Jul 12 17:57:46 <Prabash> WARNING
Jul 12 17:57:51 <SoapX> lol
Jul 12 17:58:02 <SoapX> and yeahi found it
Jul 12 17:58:03 <Prabash> If you have a kitty cover its eyes
Jul 12 17:58:09 <Prabash> Look down
Jul 12 17:58:18 <SoapX> that stuff is pretty tame, no pun intended
Jul 12 17:58:31 <SoapX> I'd say it's fine, particularly considering it's not really on her userpage, but rather a subpage
Jul 12 17:58:37 <Prabash> It starts off as cake, the lower you go the sketchier it gets
Jul 12 17:59:04 <Prabash> SoapX, you'd tap that ;)
Jul 12 17:59:14 <SoapX> but then im apparently one of the least sensitive people in the world to what's objectionable or not
Jul 12 17:59:31 <SoapX> yeah i like blonde women
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Jul 12 17:59:41 <SoapX> and every single one of those girls is blonde
Jul 12 17:59:49 <Prabash> Heh yeah
Jul 12 17:59:53 <SoapX> (though I know half of them are just the same person over and over again)
Jul 12 18:00:03 <Prabash> SoapX its her
Jul 12 18:00:10 <MartijnHH> like I said earlier, fortunately we can talk with eachother, if you think they shouldn't have it on their userpage, you can always ask him to remove it
Jul 12 18:00:20 <Prabash> Look at her teahouse pic
Jul 12 18:00:34 <Prabash> Yeah
Jul 12 18:00:40 <SoapX> on the other hand, she claims to have been editing Wikipedia for 7 years
Jul 12 18:00:47 <Prabash> She hasn't
Jul 12 18:00:49 <SoapX> so some pretending is going on
Jul 12 18:01:03 <Prabash> Lol she started June 21st
Jul 12 18:01:04 <SoapX> also she's claiming to be one of the models that's on her page?
Jul 12 18:01:10 <SoapX> that seems a bit suspicious
Jul 12 18:01:22 <Prabash> Yeah that's why I was a tad concerned
Jul 12 18:01:46 <SoapX> can you show me where she claims to be a model
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Jul 12 18:02:04 <Prabash> Look on the teahouse guest-room
Jul 12 18:02:23 <Prabash> And her pic is right there
Jul 12 18:02:39 <Prabash> I'm convinced its her
Jul 12 18:02:51 <SoapX> trhat doesnt really look like the same person as those others
Jul 12 18:03:18 <Prabash> All the pics are on commons too I think
Jul 12 18:03:26 <Prabash> Heh let me check
Jul 12 18:03:27 <SoapX> but then again, modeling can make anyone look like anything
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Jul 12 18:04:06 <Prabash> I'm a bit turned on by this.. Let me come back in a bit
Jul 12 18:04:44 <Prabash> Don't worry it's not what you think I'm doing
Jul 12 18:05:02 <Prabash> :)
Jul 12 18:05:48 <SoapX> there's at least a chance that this is all legit, except that some of her userboxes are copied from others
Jul 12 18:05:51 <Fluffernutter> Prabash: my concern is actually more that those photos are quite likely to be copyvios
Jul 12 18:06:04 <MartijnHH> they are tagged OTRS
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Jul 12 18:06:36 <Prabash> Lol
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Jul 12 18:07:22 <Fluffernutter> hm, that's actually rather impressive, that they've put together a bunch of OTRS-cleared images that nevertheless manage to be skeevy
Jul 12 18:07:33 <SoapX> ok my theory is just shes just naming herself after her 2 favorite girl models
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Jul 12 18:07:45 <SoapX> and is not claiming to actually be them or even related to them
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Jul 12 18:07:57 <Prabash> This conversation gets better and better
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Jul 12 18:08:17 <SoapX> itd be like me naming myself after 2 gay male models
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Jul 12 18:10:29 <Fluffernutter> well that shut the conversation down quite efficiently. Good job, SoapX!
Jul 12 18:11:48 <SoapX> nah its just nbecuse prab went off to masturbate
Jul 12 18:12:17 <Prabash> Ahh
Jul 12 18:12:25 <Prabash> NO!
Jul 12 18:12:47 <SoapX> well you said "it's not what you think I'm doing" and I had thought you went off to see if the images were copyvios
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Jul 12 18:12:59 <SoapX> so i figured you were doing something else
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Jul 12 18:13:32 <TheDude101> Hi
Jul 12 18:13:35 <Prabash> And that in the case was masturbating??
Jul 12 18:13:35 <SoapX> hi
Jul 12 18:13:49 <Prabash> Hello TheDude101
Jul 12 18:13:51 <TheDude101> Prabash, gentlemen hi
Jul 12 18:13:59 <Prabash> ...
Jul 12 18:14:24 <Prabash> You don't want to know what we were talking about
Jul 12 18:15:07 <TheDude101> Well I saw one quote, but whatever I know what it all means :P
Jul 12 18:15:16 <jackmcbarn> and thats why i ran m_chanhistory on my irc server
Jul 12 18:15:28 <Prabash> WARNING https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Charlotte_Tame/Other
Jul 12 18:15:34 <Prabash> That's what this is about
Jul 12 18:16:07 <tos> Prabash, Stop that.
Jul 12 18:16:15 <TheDude101> Prabash it is
Jul 12 18:16:28 <TheDude101> tos is it really you?
Jul 12 18:16:38 <tos> No. Just a clever copy
Jul 12 18:16:46 <Prabash> And fluffernutter, I'm going to check those images on commons, they are ORTS approved.. Maybe shes a pornograper
Jul 12 18:16:50 <Jasper_Deng> no, it's tos for realy
Jul 12 18:16:53 <Jasper_Deng> real*
Jul 12 18:16:55 <Jasper_Deng> per the cloak
Jul 12 18:17:26 <TheDude101> Cool
Jul 12 18:18:14 <TheDude101> But yeah, that is inappropriate and should get deleted and oversighted ASAP
Jul 12 18:18:22 <Prabash> Sorry TOS
Jul 12 18:18:33 <Prabash> Nah Wikipedia is uncenseored
Jul 12 18:18:42 <TheDude101> Hm...true
Jul 12 18:18:45 <tos> Prabash, Give the otrs ticket number when you see it?
Jul 12 18:19:18 <Prabash> Kk
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Jul 12 18:20:14 <TheDude101> Although Wikipedia is uncensored, I think that means for article content and helpful pourposes, not just for no reason
Jul 12 18:21:07 <Prabash> TOS, you want the number right
Jul 12 18:21:18 <tos> Yes
Jul 12 18:21:23 <jackmcbarn> right, but that means more so that you can't go sticking those images in random articles about other things
Jul 12 18:21:53 <TheDude101> Per my point above
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Jul 12 18:22:04 <Prabash> https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketNumber=2007111210016632
Jul 12 18:22:20 <Prabash> Last numbers of the URL
Jul 12 18:23:04 <TheDude101> @Prabash bring Soni over to ur channel as well
Jul 12 18:23:22 <Prabash> Huh?
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Jul 12 18:23:33 <Prabash> If you want to talk to him PM him
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Jul 12 18:24:07 * Fluffernutter is a little alarmed that a stuffed lion just posted to wikimedia-l
Jul 12 18:24:15 <Prabash> Oh and TOS join #NewPhyrexia if you want to talk to him
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Jul 12 18:24:29 <TheDude101> Or ##WolfsLair
Jul 12 18:24:53 <Prabash> Err isn't that his secret channel
Jul 12 18:25:45 <Demiurge1000> Doesn't seem very secret from where I'm sitting.
Jul 12 18:25:52 <TheDude101> Lol
Jul 12 18:25:56 <TheDude101> Oops my fault there
Jul 12 18:26:54 <Prabash> Fail
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Jul 12 18:27:12 <TheDude101> OK he just left his channel hopefully he'll be on ours soon
Jul 12 18:27:31 <Prabash> I don't know
Jul 12 18:27:43 <TheDude101> One must hope
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Jul 12 18:29:22 <Pharos> stuffed lions can only be a good thing for wikimedia-l
Jul 12 18:30:14 <TheDude101> Hm...
Jul 12 18:31:28 <SoapX> grr
Jul 12 18:31:33 <SoapX> i forgot to use a coupon again
Jul 12 18:32:14 <Dusti> XD
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Jul 12 18:54:59 <sarahlicity> oh great
Jul 12 18:55:08 <sarahlicity> the transliteration arguments are starting again
Jul 12 18:55:10 * sarahlicity sighs
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Jul 12 18:56:19 <SoapX> vote for hepburn
Jul 12 18:56:38 <sarahlicity> SoapX: it's like
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Jul 12 18:57:14 <sarahlicity> "Paul McCartney released this album in Russia, with a Russian title; I know, let's used the bastardised lookalike transliteration because COMMONNAME!"
Jul 12 19:00:46 <SoapX> elephants
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Jul 12 19:03:16 <Mark-Potter> Hey, any wikimedia sysadmins noticed a fault on the English Wikipedia?
Jul 12 19:04:09 <Mark-Potter> Also, where do I request a cloak?
Jul 12 19:04:36 <Dusti> meta
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Jul 12 19:07:07 <Dusti> Mark-Potter, there's a link in the topic :)
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Jul 12 19:35:21 <Oxalate> Hello
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Jul 12 20:42:09 <Logan_> Hello.
Jul 12 20:42:12 <Logan_> I have arrived.
Jul 12 20:43:45 <firstworldproblm> hi
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Jul 12 21:22:39 <jorm> lol wikimedia-l
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Jul 12 21:26:38 <Demiurge1000> lol jorm.
Jul 12 21:26:55 <Demiurge1000> jorm: You're just one snip away from Samson! Remember that!
Jul 12 21:27:01 <jorm> personally, i think that photograph is one of the best representations of me ever taken.
Jul 12 21:27:26 <jorm> pretty much everyone commented to me about it today.
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Jul 12 21:30:43 <Demiurge1000> There was this today, too! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gibraltarpedia_spoof.jpg
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Jul 12 21:35:52 <{Soap}> lol
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Jul 12 21:58:03 <dtm> guys, check out the bottom of this page. shouldn't the "business positions" table be in the main body, like in the Career section? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Davis
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Jul 12 22:05:59 <PontoCom> Hello, People!
Jul 12 22:09:34 * Novi_ (32711708@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.113.23.8) has joined #wikipedia-en
Jul 12 22:09:46 <Bradford> :)
Jul 12 22:09:53 <Novi_> Hello?
Jul 12 22:10:05 <Bradford> hi Novi_ PontoCom
Jul 12 22:10:22 <Novi_> Hello :D
Jul 12 22:10:38 <Bradford> (:
Jul 12 22:11:50 <IDoH> Hi, Novi_
Jul 12 22:11:57 <IDoH> One hi is enough. ;-0
Jul 12 22:12:01 <IDoH> :-)
Jul 12 22:12:30 <Dusti> IDoH - I miss my horsey
Jul 12 22:12:32 <Dusti> *sniff*
Jul 12 22:12:44 <IDoH> Dusti: You can add it back in, if you wish. ;-)
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Jul 12 22:12:58 <Dusti> huh?
Jul 12 22:13:00 <Dusti> lol
Jul 12 22:13:11 <IDoH> Dusti: On my userpage. Or are you talking about me?
Jul 12 22:13:18 <Dusti> LOL
Jul 12 22:13:21 <Dusti> A real horse
Jul 12 22:13:22 <Dusti> XD
Jul 12 22:13:28 <Dusti> One that goes "Nayyyyyy"
Jul 12 22:13:32 <Novi_> Lol
Jul 12 22:13:32 <Dusti> Unless you do too
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Jul 12 22:16:03 <PontoCom> hi, Bradford and Novi_ .
Jul 12 22:17:37 <Novi_> Hello :D
Jul 12 22:18:21 <dtm> guys, check out the bottom of this page. shouldn't the "business positions" table be in the main body, like in the Career section? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Davis
Jul 12 22:18:30 <{Soap}> silly dtm
Jul 12 22:18:35 <{Soap}> did you think you could get actual help here
Jul 12 22:18:40 <dtm> {Soap}: hi.
Jul 12 22:19:04 <dtm> {Soap}: oh. you're not typing in your sleep? did you see a doctor for that? <3 congrats
Jul 12 22:19:19 <dtm> that COULD be a sign of a severe medical disorder.
Jul 12 22:19:22 <PontoCom> Novi_: you funnie and happiness... :D
Jul 12 22:19:53 <{Soap}> Beds are for more than just sleeping
Jul 12 22:19:57 <dtm> for self-diagnosis, read wikipedia until psychosomatic paranoia exceeds all other symptoms
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Jul 12 22:20:09 <Novi_> Wtf {Soap}
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Jul 12 22:20:40 <dtm> does {{authority control}} always go right above persondata?
Jul 12 22:20:53 <dtm> with {{santana}} (the banner for the band) going above that?
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Jul 12 22:33:24 <Novi_> *awkward silence*
Jul 12 22:33:38 <VonKranke> It's irc.
Jul 12 22:33:51 <Novi_> Yep
Jul 12 22:34:10 <PontoCom> this chat is men saloon...
Jul 12 22:34:13 <VonKranke> (most) People have lives which do not include giving attention to people on irc.
Jul 12 22:34:47 * {Soap} cartwheels around the room
Jul 12 22:35:34 <IDoH> VonKranke: True.
Jul 12 22:36:47 <PontoCom> lol
Jul 12 22:37:37 <Novi_> lol
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Jul 12 22:40:08 <VonKranke> Now /that/ is a cool nick, mindspillage
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Jul 12 22:42:35 <dtm> yeah.
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Jul 12 22:49:27 <Novi_> So.........................
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Jul 12 22:55:44 <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8327185.stm <- McDonalds to close its businesses in Iceland
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Jul 12 22:57:40 <{Soap}> the day McDonalds went down
Jul 12 22:58:23 <{Soap}> He now plans to run the restaurants under another name so that he is able to buy cheaper Icelandic products. <--- whaaat
Jul 12 22:58:41 <{Soap}> so theyre not even closing down, theyre just rebranding to something else which for some reason allows them to buy local
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Jul 12 23:00:19 <{Soap}> apparently when they were McDonald's they signed a pact which said that they would ignore all local food sources and import everything from Germany
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Jul 12 23:05:07 <VonKranke> And the average obesity rate in Iceland will drop.
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Jul 12 23:06:48 <{Soap}> or will it go up because all of the people will want to go to the new restaurants even more than they went to McDonalds?
Jul 12 23:06:59 <{Soap}> I mean its not like Icelandic beef is somehow healthier
Jul 12 23:07:29 <{Soap}> and itll be a novelty, at least briefly, to be the Country Without a McDonalds
Jul 12 23:08:33 <VonKranke> The primary ingredient in McDonalds' "food" is grease/lard -- they haven't changed their preperation technique in 30+ years
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Jul 12 23:21:40 <russavia> anyone seen mareklug
Jul 12 23:22:23 <{Soap}> he hasnt been on for 2 weeks
Jul 12 23:22:39 <VonKranke> Comeuppance
Jul 12 23:22:41 <{Soap}> i think he must have decided not to come back
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Jul 12 23:22:52 <SigmaWP> What happened?
Jul 12 23:23:00 <VonKranke> Was he the arrogant smart mouth one?
Jul 12 23:23:03 <{Soap}> he was making fun of some gay guy on this channel
Jul 12 23:23:21 <SigmaWP> hah, gayyyyyyy
Jul 12 23:23:51 <{Soap}> the rest of us were too
Jul 12 23:23:54 <VonKranke> Maybe someone dcc'd him a fake jpg and found out where he lived
Jul 12 23:23:57 <{Soap}> it was kind of a free for all
Jul 12 23:24:40 <russavia> mareklug making fun of a gay guy? hmmm surely yuo jest
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Jul 12 23:25:05 <{Soap}> russ: seriously all of #en was guilty
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Jul 12 23:25:22 <{Soap}> it was one of those hopeless POV users who comes here as a last resort after losing an edit war on Wikipedia
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Jul 12 23:25:35 <russavia> i saw log of his pwning of ironholds....is that who yuo talk of?
Jul 12 23:25:36 <{Soap}> and he accused all of us of being homophobic
Jul 12 23:25:43 <VonKranke> From what I saw of the guy he was just another angry arrogant smartass who probably hated himself so much that it showed out as outwardly channeled anger at others
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Jul 12 23:26:04 <VonKranke> showed up*
Jul 12 23:26:07 <russavia> ahhhh ok soap
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Jul 12 23:27:26 <{Soap}> feel free ot invite marek back to the channel
Jul 12 23:27:28 <{Soap}> I miss him
Jul 12 23:27:53 <VonKranke> Why, so he can smart off at more people and alienate them? Nice.
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Jul 12 23:28:08 <russavia> got a log of it?
Jul 12 23:28:44 <VonKranke> Of whom are you asking that? Me?
Jul 12 23:28:47 <{Soap}> i do yeah, but i'd ratrher not post it
Jul 12 23:29:26 <VonKranke> Oh. Yes let's do see just how far he went.
Jul 12 23:29:51 <russavia> anyone with log it is being directed to....pm me
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Jul 12 23:31:16 -ufijhvr/#wikipedia-en- Hello.
Jul 12 23:31:23 -ufijhvr/#wikipedia-en- How is everyone tonight?
Jul 12 23:31:32 <VonKranke> ufijhvr: Please don't /notice the channel
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Jul 12 23:31:45 -rydolxi/#wikipedia-en- fuck wikipedia.
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Jul 12 23:32:23 <Logan_> Hi derp.
Jul 12 23:32:29 <derp> hey Logan_
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Jul 12 23:32:32 <Logan_> How's it going?
Jul 12 23:32:33 <derp> been a while.
Jul 12 23:32:35 <Logan_> Yes.
Jul 12 23:32:36 <derp> good you?
Jul 12 23:32:40 <Logan_> Pretty well. :)
Jul 12 23:32:49 <derp> let's go talk on a better client :)
Jul 12 23:33:22 <Logan_> I beg your pardon?
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Jul 12 23:33:38 <GabrielF> hmmm would we consider Penthouse Magazine a reliable source?
Jul 12 23:33:48 <russavia> The Boeing 777's safety record is among the best of its type.[13] ... yep that makes sense...not
Jul 12 23:33:51 <derp> It depends if the sources are *sticky*
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Jul 12 23:34:20 <GabrielF> hey, I'm talking about their *articles*
Jul 12 23:34:43 <derp> those *articles* happens to have any *pictures* in them?
Jul 12 23:34:50 <GabrielF> see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mena,_Arkansas#Allegations_regarding_cocaine_trafficking
Jul 12 23:34:57 <derp> *pictures* that makes them *sticky*
Jul 12 23:35:01 <GabrielF> don't worry, its just crazy fringe conspiracy nonsense, no naked ladies
Jul 12 23:35:22 <GorillaWarfare> Hey derp
Jul 12 23:35:32 <VonKranke> It's like a 13 year old has entered the channel and it behaving like they're out of school.
Jul 12 23:35:37 <derp> hey Hey GorillaWarfare
Jul 12 23:35:59 <derp> VonKranke, at least, i'm not a 13 years old girl, fan of bieber-douche
Jul 12 23:36:17 <VonKranke> Are you sure?
Jul 12 23:36:31 <VonKranke> Trolling as you are is a sure sign that something is psychologicaly wrong..
Jul 12 23:36:32 <derp> Yep, should i show my cereal box ID?
Jul 12 23:36:37 <derp> Milk and ceeral.
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Jul 12 23:36:54 <derp> Milk and ceeral.
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Jul 12 23:37:05 <derp> Milk and cereal
Jul 12 23:37:09 <derp> cereal and milk
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Jul 12 23:37:55 <GabrielF> anyway, I'm making an executive decision and deleting material cited to Penthouse
Jul 12 23:38:32 <derp> Like i said, it could be sticky.
Jul 12 23:38:41 <derp> just use some kleenexes to clean them.
Jul 12 23:38:55 <derp> bye.
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