User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2011-11-16

Session Start: Wed Nov 16 13:41:17 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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[13:41] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
[13:41] <tommorris> It may be better for some species or some individual
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[13:41] <tommorris> but that doesn't make it better
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[13:41] <tommorris> Would a world where everyone is dead be better or worse than a world where everyone lived but lived in agonising pain with no ability to get any kind of pain relief or any pleasure at all
[13:42] <geniice> the deployment of matter in the universe in a way that maximizes happiness
[13:42] <Pharos> tommorris, neither of those worlds is the *best* of all possible worlds
[13:43] <Pharos> we're not debating the worst of all possible worlds, after all :P
[13:43] <tommorris> no, sure, but if you are going to have a best possible world, that presumably means possible worlds are rankable on some kind of scale
[13:43] <tommorris> in which case you can have possible worlds which are better or worse
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[13:44] <tommorris> from the perspective of a long-suffering person in Painworld, they could quite reasonably prefer to be in Painworld over a world where they don't exist.
[13:44] <geniice> yes but the ranking system doesn't have to work across the entire scale
[13:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> quanticle what if you become a general?
[13:46] <tommorris> if you are going to have possible worlds being ranked in terms of the common description of a "best possible world", you need to have a fully worked-out utilitarian calculus. but if you are to have individual consciousnesses in said worlds, they may have differing preferences over their other-worldly counterparts.
[13:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> quanticle whats the PH value of a congressman?
[13:47] <geniice> tommorris	yes but those opinions aren't relivant
[13:47] <Fluffernutter> oh lord, what did i start
[13:48] <geniice> ToAruShiroiNeko	about 7.4
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�08[13:50] <derp> do it again :P
[13:51] <geniice> trying to identify underground stations in late 90s europop videos
[13:51] <geniice> oh dear
[13:54] <geniice> I mean normaly you assume Aldwych  but there are signs saying holborn and bank and I don't think Aldwych even has an escalator
[14:03] <Pharos> would not the best of all possible worlds have a global consciusness?
[14:03] <Pharos> a transcendent one, even
[14:04] <Pharos> long live the hive mind!
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[14:08] <BarkingFish> Anyone conversant with AFD, mind checking this over please? A no consensus, with simply v/r left as the reason? What is that?
[14:08] <BarkingFish> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Robotics_Design
[14:08] <Fluffernutter> that's part of tparis's signature
[14:09] <Fluffernutter> not part of his close
[14:10] <BarkingFish> odd thing to have in a signature, but whatever :)
[14:10] <BarkingFish> i'm just curious as to what it was there for, it doesn't link like a sig.
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[14:40] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
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[14:41] <petan> raindrift: just wondering if you received the mail? but no need for urgent response...
[14:45] <raindrift> yep.  looking through code now, about to commit some little documentation fixes and stuff.
[14:46] <petan> nice
[14:47] <petan> :)
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�08[14:51] <derp> yay
�08[14:51] <derp> 4chan's down!
[14:52] <quanticle> Yay? This is a terrible thing. When it comes /b/ack they'll be looking for revenge.
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[14:53] <petan> oh no! what are we gonna do? (sigh)
[14:53] <quanticle> We'll have to go through the usual page-protect drill.
[14:53] <petan> hopefully all the trolls from there won't move to wikipedia
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[14:55] <jubo2> derp: how will we survive ..?
�08[14:56] <derp> no raids?
�06[14:56] * Fluffernutter raids derp's pantrty
[14:56] <Fluffernutter> -t
[14:57] <quanticle> You want to raid derp's pany?
[14:57] <quanticle> Or panry, rather?
[14:57] <Fluffernutter> pantry
�08[14:58] <derp> Fluffernutter, nooooooooo
[14:58] <quanticle> Not his panties? :P
�08[14:58] <derp> i have all my food in here.
[14:58] <quanticle> :D
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�08[14:58] <derp> quanticle, i have my canary yellow DIESEL boxers :P
[14:58] <quanticle> derp: Was that an implied fat joke there?
[14:58] <Fluffernutter> his panties are his business
�08[14:58] <derp> nope
[14:58] <quanticle> Oh. Disappointing. You missed a capital opportunity.
�08[14:59] <derp> eh??
[14:59] <quanticle> You missed a capital opportunity to set up a fat joke.
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[14:59] <quanticle> Come on! Raiding pantries? How could you miss that?
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�06[15:01] * Eta-theta Greeks
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[15:04] <quanticle> But the process of seeing me altered my momentum, Fluffernutter. So you see me, but you can't tell where I'm going.
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[15:05] <quanticle> Eta-theta: I am a quantum particle. If you take a measurement of my position, it affects my momentum. Heisenberg's uncertainty principle and all that.
[15:05] <Eta-theta> Ah
[15:06] <Eta-theta> So, what's all this stuff about Wikimedia Fnd. and censorship?
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[15:07] <quanticle> I don't know. What stuff about the Wikimedia Foundation and censorship?
[15:07] <Eta-theta> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/11/15/wikimedia-supports-american-censorship-day/
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[15:10] <Eta-theta> Seems interesting to me
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[15:10] <Eta-theta> #wikimedia ?
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[15:14] <Qcoder00> Eta-theta:  What's all the fuss about anyway?
[15:14] <Qcoder00> SOPA?
[15:14] <Eta-theta> Aparrently there's a  bil to be passed by Congress about internet censorship
[15:14] <Eta-theta> Bill*
[15:15] <Qcoder00> Congress want's to make sure the non-existent internet pirates can't hurt Honest americans?
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[15:15] <slakr> RIAA and MPAA*
[15:15] <slakr> not congress.
[15:15] <slakr> it's a horrible idea.
[15:15] <Pharos> something like that
[15:15] <Eta-theta> What is RIAA?
[15:15] <slakr> google it
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[15:15] <Qcoder00> Eta-theta:  A member of the MAFIAA
[15:16] <Pharos> the internet pirates exist
[15:16] <Pharos> they are called Big Content
[15:16] <Qcoder00> Media and Film Insdustry Associations of America ;)
[15:16] <slakr> and actually
[15:16] <slakr> I'd argue that piracy is a good thing for the rest of the country
[15:16] <slakr> for very counterintuitive reasons
[15:16] <Pharos> hey, it's good for Somalia
[15:16] <Eta-theta> Bahahahwhy?
[15:16] <slakr> it allows college kids to promote whatever it is they're pirating.
[15:16] <Qcoder00> From the tone of Jay Walsh's post, it seems some people want to take away safe harbour
[15:16] <slakr> it happened with windows, for example
[15:17] <Eta-theta> I use Mac
[15:17] <slakr> arguably the ease of pirating windows, dos, and most other microsoft products encourages proliferation of those very products into the business realm
[15:17] <Qcoder00> If safe harbour gets taken away, it WILL really hurt some firms...
[15:17] <slakr> because kids already train themselves on it
[15:17] <Qcoder00> Like Ebay
[15:17] <Qcoder00> Like Twitter
[15:17] <Eta-theta> Oh no
[15:17] <Qcoder00> Like MSN
[15:17] <Qcoder00> Like NBC
[15:17] <Qcoder00> Like the Washington Post
[15:18] <Qcoder00> Like Goole
[15:18] <slakr> in turn, businesses always license their products, and as a result, they make bajillions.
[15:18] <slakr> enough
[15:18] <Qcoder00> Like Google
[15:18] <slakr> we get it.
[15:18] <slakr> no need to scroll the room.
[15:18] <Qcoder00> I mean Google links THOUSANDS of copyvios dialy :)
[15:18] <Pharos> shhh
[15:18] <Pharos> don't tell nobody
[15:18] <Eta-theta> about what
[15:19] <Pharos> about google copyvios
[15:19] <Qcoder00> Also Google links sites that contain content that it is certainly not 'appropriate' for honest church going Americans ;)
[15:19] <Eta-theta> Ah. true Google has tons of copyvios
[15:19] <Pharos> everyone knows only anarchists without jobs do copyvios
[15:19] <slakr> "The bill would allow the court to order Internet service providers, “payment network providers,” search engines, and advertising services to take “technically feasible and reasonable measures” to cut off these illegal foreign infringing sites in their respective fields."
[15:19] <slakr> what a horrible idea.
[15:19] <Eta-theta> right?
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[15:19] <slakr> it's the worst idea since censoring the internet to "protect kids"
[15:19] <Qcoder00> slakr:  Which in effect kills some sits business models
[15:20] <slakr> fuck that
[15:20] <Qcoder00> and really hurts archive sites
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[15:20] <Qcoder00> like archive.org
[15:20] <Qcoder00> like IMSLP.org
[15:20] <Qcoder00> like Commons
[15:20] <slakr> it puts a substantial amout of power into the hands of a very small group of peopelo to censor whatever the hell they want
[15:20] <slakr> whenever they want
[15:20] <slakr> under the guise of "copyright issues"
[15:20] <slakr> and guess what
[15:20] <slakr> you won't be able to verify whether there's any truth to it
[15:20] <Eta-theta> bahahahaha
[15:20] <slakr> they can block it immediately, then you can't even check to see if what you were trying to view was even copyright-infringing
[15:21] <slakr> it's fucking insane.
[15:21] <Qcoder00> slakr:  I thought conspiracy to disrupt a 'legitmate concern' was a fedral crime?
[15:21] <Qcoder00> XD
[15:21] <Eta-theta> oh my gosh, even talking about it sickens me
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[15:21] <slakr> "oh it's a computer glitch"
[15:21] <slakr> yes
[15:21] <slakr> a computer glitch
[15:21] <slakr> my ass.
[15:21] <slakr> "oh someone must have blacklisted it accidentally, please wait 2-4 weeks for us to investigate it"
[15:21] <Qcoder00> www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/nov/16/sopa-condemned-internet-blacklist-bill?newsfeed=true
[15:22] <Eta-theta> bahahahaha
[15:22] <slakr> "you'll be able to view it in 2-4 weeks"
[15:22] <slakr> "in the meantime, here's foxnews.com"
[15:22] <Qcoder00> slakr: How long did it take a certain Album Cover to be unblocked?
[15:22] <Qcoder00> ;)
[15:22] <slakr> omfg
[15:22] <slakr> no shit
[15:22] <slakr> it was like an entire week
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[15:22] <slakr> that was insane
[15:22] <slakr> they blocked *that* one under the guise of "protecting children"
[15:22] <slakr> my ass, aga.
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[15:22] <slakr> again*
[15:22] <Qcoder00> Sopa would also hurt organisations that expose corruption...
[15:22] <Eta-theta> "unavailable!" bahahahaha
[15:23] <Qcoder00> I mean a certain Church could block ANY site that tried to critieuq it's teachings... as copyright infringment
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[15:23] <Eta-theta> that's... good I guess
[15:23] <Pharos> what is with these certain ppl?
[15:23] <Qcoder00> Eta-theta:  : You do know about the Church of Scientology?
[15:23] <Eta-theta> Kinda
[15:24] <Qcoder00> And you know that it's a known CoS tactic to lawsuit people into Bankruptcy?
[15:24] <Eta-theta> oh no
[15:24] <Pharos> it's one thing to have slightly silly stories for your religion
[15:25] <Pharos> they're all more or less like that
[15:25] <Eta-theta> Do all these billmakers have monkey breath?
[15:25] <Pharos> quite another to be like CoS and declare war on everyone and everything you don't like :P
[15:25] <Qcoder00> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/nov/16/sopa-condemned-internet-blacklist-bill?newsfeed=true
[15:25] <Eta-theta> :p
[15:26] <slakr> "The remaining provisions of Title I allow for voluntary actions to deny services to rogue sites"
[15:26] <slakr> ah yes
[15:26] <slakr> rogue suites
[15:26] <slakr> sites*
[15:26] <Qcoder00> Of course if SOPA removes Safe-Harbour, then it works both ways
[15:26] <slakr> wtf are rogue sites?
[15:26] <slakr> whatever the hell they want?
[15:26] <Eta-theta> "POKE POKE POKE" "Stop" "I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE MAFIAA LET ME"
[15:26] <Eta-theta> "AND BECAUSE I CAN"
[15:27] <Qcoder00> If safe-harbour goes , then I reserve the right to reuest that US ISP's cut of EVERY single website that ripped my Wikipedia Contributions ;)
[15:27] <Qcoder00> *off
[15:28] <Qcoder00> Removign safe-harbour would also potentialy mean that I could finally hold Google liable for comments made by known trolls abput my parentage ;)
[15:28] <Eta-theta> "Me a-Quitte!"
[15:28] <Pharos> Qcoder, where is your Long Form Birth Certificate?
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�06[15:29] * slakr is pissed at the audcaity of that bill
[15:29] <Qcoder00> Pharos: I can produce it if needed ;)
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[15:30] <Qcoder00> Of course if SOPA passes , I reserve the right to continue to remove copyvio from Wikipedia regardless
[15:30] <Eta-theta> It just sickens me to talk about it
[15:30] <slakr> me too
[15:30] <Eta-theta> God those nuts
[15:30] <slakr> it's absolutely maddening
[15:30] <Pharos> Eta, how is your crathood?
[15:31] <slakr> and what pisses me off the most is that it's people who've already corrupted government to make absurd amounts of money already
[15:31] <Eta-theta> crathood?
[15:31] <Eta-theta> Huh
[15:31] <slakr> but no, destroying what was left of our democracy wasn't good enough
[15:31] <slakr> no, they need MORE FUCKING MONEY
[15:31] <Eta-theta> God
[15:31] <PeterSymonds> Crathood on that wiki nobody's ever heard of.
[15:31] <slakr> and they'll get more fucking money by corrupting even further and destroying the damn internet if they have to
[15:31] <Eta-theta> Oh yeah
[15:31] <slakr> they will never fucking stop
[15:31] <jubo2> Give us a granary..
[15:32] <Eta-theta> Go to my userpage
[15:32] <slakr> they'll just keep eating and eating until nothing's left of the country.
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�06[15:32] * Eta-theta too
[15:33] <Qcoder00> slakr: My concern is also that if SOPA passes,  /b/ will start 'planting' operations...
[15:33] <Qcoder00> .. I.e planting delibrate copyvios deep in sites they want to target
[15:33] <Eta-theta> "/b/"?
[15:33] <Eta-theta> Huh?
[15:33] <slakr> it won't work
[15:33] <Eta-theta> "/b/"?
[15:33] <slakr> the entire reason for  SOPA is strategic
[15:34] <slakr> it means you can blacklist people you don't like
[15:34] <Eta-theta> What is /b/
[15:34] <slakr> and intentionally cause them to be blacklisted
[15:34] <slakr> an organization is "dangerous" to your organization?
[15:34] <slakr> simple
[15:34] <slakr> pay a group of people to get them blacklisted
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[15:34] <Eta-theta> What is /b/
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�03[16:08] * Set by derp!~omg@bas7-montrealak-1128544932.dsl.bell.ca on Sun Oct 23 20:29:19
[16:08] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
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[16:08] <petan> Maryana: and maybe the people who translated the messages? :P
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[16:08] <Maryana> yes!
[16:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 10$ to whoever locates "download" link on http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer.html
[16:09] <Maryana> petan: did you translate into czech? :)
[16:10] <petan> actually yes, https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fundraising_2011/Jimmy_Letter_002/cs&diff=3080934&oldid=3010802
[16:10] <the_wub> oh yeah, huge thanks to the translators, they've done and are doing an amazing job!
[16:10] <Eta-theta> TASN: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[16:11] <petan> but Ironholds helped me understand it :D
[16:11] <Maryana> petan: thank you!!
[16:11] <petan> one sentence was really hard for me
[16:11] <Eta-theta> Which one?
[16:12] <petan> We’ve worked hard over the years to keep it lean and tight.
[16:12] <Eta-theta> Oh
[16:12] <petan> there is no such word in czech dictionary, which makes sense
[16:12] <Eta-theta> "lean and tight" - idiom
[16:13] <quanticle> Eta-theta: http://4chan.com/b/
[16:14] <Eta-theta> Bahahaha! Who else has been fooled by that
[16:14] <Eta-theta> In fact, I'd like to take 4chan.com/b down
�08[16:14] <derp> Eta-theta, it's already down
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�08[16:15] <derp> Also, it's 4chan.ORG
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�08[16:16] Clones detected from gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.1.130.249:�8 Eta-theta Eta-theta_
[16:16] <Eta-theta_> quanticle, I now hold a grudge against you
[16:17] <PeterSymonds> I bet he's scared.
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[16:17] <Eta-theta_> ""
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[16:19] <Eta-theta> i hate shock sites and those things
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[16:20] <slakr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer#Portal:Dragons
[16:20] <slakr> heh... I totally didn't know what the CSDs for portals were
[16:20] <slakr> hell, that might have been the first portal I've ever deleted
�08[16:21] * derp gives slakr a portal gun
[16:21] <Eta-theta> Didn't know slakr was an admin
�06[16:21] * slakr would totally abuse a portal gun
[16:21] <slakr> and for goofy things too
[16:21] <slakr> I'd like use it to grab something from across the room
�06[16:22] * Eta-theta would like to see an IRC bot like snerk on here?
[16:23] <Demiurge1000> Pffft.
�08[16:23] <derp> Eta-theta, good luck :P
[16:23] <Eta-theta> Have you seen snerk, derp?
[16:23] <Eta-theta> Like it's cool
�08[16:23] <derp> ah
�08[16:24] <derp> i mistook for snirk
�08[16:24] <derp> snicker
[16:24] <Eta-theta> snerk often goes on #uncyclopedia
[16:24] <Demiurge1000> The best comment snerk ever said was to Reedy. But I can't repeat it in polite company.
�08[16:24] <derp> can't go there
�08[16:24] <derp> I'm banned
[16:24] <Eta-theta> ?
[16:24] <Eta-theta> Oh
[16:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> petan are you really a czech user?
[16:24] <petan> what?
[16:24] <Eta-theta> derp: Why?
[16:25] <petan> I am a Czech, indeed
�08[16:25] <derp> Eta-theta, long term trolling & crapflooding.
[16:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> petan oh
�08[16:25] <derp> czech guys are cute
�08[16:25] <derp> :P
[16:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> czech user can see peoples IPs
[16:25] <Eta-theta> I was banned from that wiki
[16:25] <quanticle> Eta-theta: Oh come now, you're a denize of the Internet and you don't know /b/? That's an ignorance that has to be corrected.
[16:25] <Eta-theta>  brb: checking my tp
�08[16:26] <derp> toilet paper?
[16:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> town portal?
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[16:26] <Eta-theta> talk page
[16:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> town portal...
[16:26] <Eta-theta> I got something from a bot
[16:27] <Eta-theta> Now I'm an op over at #--
[16:28] <bep> what is --
[16:28] <Eta-theta> Someone please get on #-- , I'd like to test something
[16:28] <slakr> [15:28:06] Channel mode for #-- is +ns [15:28:06] Channel #-- was created at Wed Nov 16 15:27:34 2011
[16:28] <Pharos> it's a trap!
[16:28] <slakr> lame.
�06[16:28] * slakr smacks Eta-theta for spamming
[16:28] <jubo2> /join ##trolling
[16:28] <Eta-theta> No, I just want to test something
�06[16:28] * slakr also smacks jubo2
[16:28] <Eta-theta> really
[16:29] <Eta-theta> I'm not trying to spam
�06[16:29] * slakr was joking
[16:29] <Eta-theta> Well now I look like a fool, dont I
[16:30] <slakr> that's more a discussion for ##looking_like_a_fool
[16:30] <slakr> :P
[16:30] <Eta-theta> Could someone please get on it? I just want to do a test
[16:30] <Eta-theta> It takes 15 seconds, no really
[16:31] <slakr> just open another client
[16:31] <slakr> join it to your channel
[16:31] <slakr> hammer away
[16:31] <Eta-theta> cool
[16:31] <slakr> freenode doesn't care if you open up another connection as long as it's not abusive
[16:31] <slakr> =)
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�06[16:31] * Peter-C eats Pharos
[16:31] <Peter-C> How are the kids?
[16:31] <Peter-C> (the adopted ones)
[16:31] <Eta-theta> ;)
[16:32] <Pharos> the college kids?
[16:32] <Peter-C> Yep
[16:32] <Peter-C> The ones from Albany
[16:32] <Pharos> alright
[16:32] <Pharos> they had a problem with a blacklisted site yesterday :P
[16:33] <Peter-C> O_o
[16:33] <Pharos> globaljihad.net
[16:33] <Eta-theta> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/11/15/wikimedia-supports-american-censorship-day/
�08[16:33] * derp glomps Peter-C
[16:34] <Pharos> do you know why that's blacklisted?
[16:34] <Pharos> i'm guessing it was accused of bias
[16:34] <Pharos> or someone overpromoted it
[16:34] <Eta-theta> It's GLOBAL JIHAD, what do you think
[16:34] <Pharos> well, yeah :P
[16:34] <Eta-theta> :P
[16:35] <Qcoder00> Right atarting a mass tagg session for images without FUR
[16:35] <Qcoder00> Just warning people, as when I get going, I REALLY get going :)
[16:35] <Eta-theta> :\}{/
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[16:36] <Eta-theta> Why does nobody ever talk about Wikipedia here?
�08[16:36] <derp> Who wants Penne Alla Vodka with Pancetta??
�08[16:36] <derp> Eta-theta, because we blog about it.
[16:37] <Eta-theta> I don't drink.
[16:37] <Pharos> i talk about wikipedia
[16:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> we are all CIA agents
[16:38] <Pharos> pretty often
�08[16:38] <derp> Eta-theta, the vodka flavor stays, the alcohol evaporates during cooking
[16:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Intellipedia forever!
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[16:38] <Eta-theta> Hey, try doing "/query (yourusername)"
[16:38] <Pharos> Conservapedia forevera!
�06[16:38] * ToAruShiroiNeko hacks into Eta-theta's computer and uploads all the porn to Eta-theta's grandmother
[16:38] <Eta-theta> Uncyclopedia... ?
�08[16:39] <derp> down!
�06[16:39] * Eta-theta : :|
[16:39] <Eta-theta> Who here supports Uncyclopedia?
�08[16:39] <derp> not me.
�08[16:39] <derp> EDiot <==
[16:39] <Pharos> Uncyclopedia is Mostly Harmless
[16:40] <Pharos> there's a much worse mock wiki out ther :P
[16:40] <Eta-theta> I've heard most of them support Wikipedia
�08[16:40] <derp> Pharos, ED?
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�08[16:40] <derp> or OhInternet
[16:40] <Pharos> it's part of Jimbo's company
[16:40] <Pharos> derp: yup :P
�08[16:40] <derp> Wikia?
[16:40] <Pharos> ED
[16:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Uncyclopedia supports wikipedia through its commercials ndirectly
�08[16:40] <derp> .ch that is.
[16:40] <Pharos> uncyc is part of wikia
[16:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> exactly
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[16:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wikia donates to the foundation I believe
[16:41] <slakr> Wikia tosses a crapton of money our way, too
[16:41] <slakr> so leave them alone. :P
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[16:41] <Pharos> yeah
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[16:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> how much is a crapton?
[16:42] <Pharos> 1/2pi
[16:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> piiiiii!
[16:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXJGzLdg_nM
[16:43] <Pharos> are you telling me pie is a lie?
[16:45] <slakr> 1/2 of a metric Helluvalot
�15[16:45] * Keegan (~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds�)
[16:45] <slakr> == 1 crapton
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[16:49] <Ks0stm> Does anyone know how to do error bars on Microsoft Excel? I'm trying to put standard deviation error bars on a graph and the error bars it puts on don't even include my data points.
[16:49] <bep> Wikipedia donated a kidney to me.
[16:49] <slakr> ks0stm: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel-help/add-change-or-remove-error-bars-in-a-chart-HP010007462.aspx
[16:49] <slakr> google works wonders for finding info like that. ;)
[16:50] <Ks0stm> slakr: I already followed the steps at that page.
[16:50] <Ks0stm> =P
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[16:50] <Eta-theta> (Back)
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[16:58] <Ks0stm> slakr: I asked on the reference desk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing#Standard_deviation_error_bars_in_Microsoft_Excel
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[17:01] <Eta-theta> ^^ why?
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[17:08] <Eta-theta> Again: Who supports Uncyclopedia?
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�06[17:09] * Panyd rather hopes no hands go up
[17:11] <WilliamH_UK> hi bep
[17:11] <WilliamH_UK> and Eta-theta, uncyclopedia is rubbish
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[17:11] <Eta-theta> It kinda is
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�06[17:13] * JeffAndroIrcAFK agrees it is.
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[17:15] <Eta-theta> Although, I'v heard most of Uncyclopedia supports Wikipedia
[17:15] <Eta-theta> I've*
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[17:20] <bep> hallo WilliamH_UK
�06[17:20] * WilliamH_UK tips hat
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�06[17:24] * slakr lieks uncyclopedia
[17:24] <slakr> likes*
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[17:25] <slakr> remember: you know you've made it when they parody you
[17:25] <slakr> :)
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[17:26] <Logan_> derp: skilled article updating right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Music
�06[17:26] * Logan_ hugs his article that's probably going to get tons of pageviews today
[17:27] <Logan_> er, [[WP:OWN]], so not "his article" :P
[17:27] <slakr> are they finally off of beta?
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[17:27] <Logan_> yeah, there's a live blog on The Verge
[17:27] <Logan_> they're opening up an actual music store
[17:27] <Qcoder00> Logan: How is Google Music avoiding piracy?
�03[17:27] * tommorris is now known as article
[17:27] <article> You don't own me.
�06[17:27] * article cannot be owned.
[17:27] <Logan_> sorry Tom
�06[17:27] * article has rights guaranteed by the community.
[17:28] <article> don't delete me.
[17:28] <Logan_> Qcoder00: by selling music? :P
[17:28] <article> what did I ever do to you?
�06[17:28] * slakr protects article
[17:28] <Logan_> aw
[17:28] <Logan_> how cute
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�06[17:28] * article admires the new protective chastity belt.
[17:28] <Qcoder00> Logan_: OK
�06[17:28] * Logan_ quickly updates the article to reflect the new information
[17:28] <Qcoder00> article is female?
[17:29] <Logan_> so, uh, I'm hoping it shows up in Google News, like the other Wikipedia articles related to events :P
[17:29] <article> Qcoder00: chastity belts are for men too. check the article.
[17:29] <Qcoder00> article: Why would a male wear a chastity belt?
[17:29] <article> Qcoder00: again, read the article.
[17:29] <Qcoder00> which one ?
[17:29] <purplepopple> qcider: the obvious reasons?
[17:30] <Qcoder00> purplepopple:  Which is?
[17:30] <article> [[Chastity belt (BDSM)]] -- although do enjoy both the CGI breasts and the not-at-all-CGI penis.
�06[17:30] * article is not censored.
[17:30] <slakr> http://upload.annoyed.org/d/arch/chastitybelt.jpg
[17:30] <slakr> (for example)
�06[17:31] * article takes the chastity belt off and lets all his sources hang out.
�06[17:31] * Eta-theta is bored
�06[17:31] * slakr atags article
[17:31] <slakr> tags*
�06[17:31] * bep is more bored� than Eta-theta
[17:31] <article> Oww! That hurt slakr!
[17:31] <bep> i've got reddit work to do
�06[17:31] * Eta-theta is more bored than bep
[17:31] <article> Why don't you try and love me rather than just call me retarded?
[17:32] <Qcoder00> I can't understand why a male would willingly wear a chastity belt unless they were into kinky stuff
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�06[17:32] * slakr was tagging you good-article
[17:32] <slakr> :P
[17:32] <slakr> Qcoder00: that's exactly why.
[17:32] <article> slakr: oh, that's alright.
�06[17:32] * article is an awesome article.
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[17:32] <slakr> no
[17:32] <slakr> just a good article
[17:32] <slakr> you're not featured or anything
�06[17:32] * article has a dim blone sister over on Simple.
[17:32] <slakr> :P
�06[17:33] * Eta-theta is bored
[17:33] <Gfoley4> What's so great about Google Music.
[17:33] <Gfoley4> (opposed to iTunes, for example)
[17:33] <slakr> Gfoley4: basically you can listen to your music stash wherever you are
[17:33] <bep> Eta-theta: wrong
[17:33] <bep> clearing reports is a boring
[17:33] <bep> boring
[17:33] <bep> task
[17:33] <Gfoley4> slakr: iPhone?
[17:33] <slakr> it'll become more important as time goes by and cloud devices are ubiquitous.
[17:33] <Eta-theta> bep: D:
[17:33] <slakr> not just the iphone
[17:33] <bep> yeah xactly
[17:33] <slakr> any browser-enabled device
[17:33] <Gfoley4> ohh
[17:34] <slakr> which will eventually include your car
[17:34] <slakr> (among other things)
[17:34] <Gfoley4> nice
[17:34] <slakr> exactly
�06[17:34] * Eta-theta is actually very bored (even if bep is  more bored than him)
[17:34] <slakr> there's lots of money to be made off the cloud while people still have no clue what it is and what its potential is
[17:34] <slakr> which is why I'm still pissed off at people who try to fuck with the Internet in the USA
[17:35] <Gfoley4> well, that's a fail. Clicking on "browse free songs" takes you to a dead link
[17:35] <slakr> (see also: SOPA)
�06[17:35] * article is part of the cloud encyclopedia. It's like an encyclopedia but it's IN THE CLOUD.
[17:35] <Qcoder00> slakr: Sadly some people don't realise if you fuck with the internet, the Internet fucks you up
[17:35] <slakr> it's like
�06[17:35] * bep is so bored his temporal lobe is on holiday
[17:35] <slakr> the internet is the last real viable, forward-thinking industry in the USA
[17:35] <WilliamH_UK> bep how can you be bored?
[17:35] <WilliamH_UK> what would unbore you?
[17:35] <slakr> and people are trying to censor and therefore cripple it
[17:35] <bep> WilliamH_UK: not doing reddit work
[17:36] <bep> but i has to
[17:36] <WilliamH_UK> ah
[17:36] <WilliamH_UK> fair enough
[17:36] <bep> because no-one else can be bothered it seems
[17:36] <bep> dicks
�06[17:36] * article has only one cure for boredom: new page patrolling on Commons.
[17:36] <slakr> makes no sense why we don't just smack those people down and be like, "look, I'm sorry you don't want to adjust to reality, but government's not gonna do your dirty work for you; innovate."
[17:36] <Qcoder00> slakr: When SOPA starts hurting american industry...
[17:36] <slakr> take hollywood for instance
[17:36] <slakr> they have the option to USE THE INTERNET to bring movies to people's computers or do like spotify does and charge them a monthly fee for basically any movie ever
[17:36] <slakr> but nooooooooooooo
[17:36] <slakr> they want to keep using DVDs and Blu-Ray!
[17:37] <slakr> so let's corrupt the government so we can keep things our way
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[17:37] <Qcoder00> slakr: BUt DVD's and Blu-Rays have right managment
[17:37] <Qcoder00> and a physical DVD is a trackable sale
[17:37] <slakr> and fuck up the entire internet just so we can sit on our ass and keep things the way they are
[17:37] <Qcoder00> ;)
[17:37] <slakr> Qcoder00: and buying songs through itunes has no trackable sale?
[17:37] <slakr> :P
[17:38] <Qcoder00> salkr:  You don't read the same forums as the  OMG NWO is going to start a war  lobby do you?
[17:38] <slakr> the beauty of itunes is that not only are they now DRM free, people STILL happily buy songs through itunes--if not moreso now that they can play their songs anywhere in any format
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[17:38] <slakr> that entire market is just waiting for the MPAA to jump on
[17:38] <Qcoder00> Yes but Itunes is Apple...
[17:38] <Qcoder00> ;)
[17:38] <slakr> by offering the exact same service.
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[17:39] <slakr> give people drm-free movies; let them re-download them if their hard drive crashes; let them loan a movie to a friend to watch; fuck
[17:39] <slakr> INNOVATE
[17:39] <slakr> for the love of god
[17:39] <slakr> just don't fuck up the internet for oyur damn industry
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[17:40] <tommorris> slakr: you say that like the content industry hasn't had a decade or more to work out what the fuck to do. OH WAIT, DISREGARD THAT.
[17:40] <slakr> sorry, I'm just sick of this trend in american business. Instead of doing the obvious (making new shit) they take the lazy, evil route (fuck over everyone else and keep shit the same)
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[17:40] <Qcoder00> slakr: ' INO_VATION is IRREL-EVANT, THOSE THAT ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH OUR UPGRADES WILL BE DELE-TED!'  XD
[17:40] <slakr> tommorris: exactly; they *have* had a decade to work it out, and yet, they bitch and moan and sue grandmothers
[17:40] <slakr> the wrong approach from both a PR perspective and an innovation perspective.
[17:41] <slakr> and business-wise, it's a blackhole of money
[17:41] <slakr> right into the legal system, for basically zero return
[17:41] <Qcoder00> slakr; Yeah, but the content industry isn't shooting grandmas yet...
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[17:42] <slakr> they might as well be. They sue children and their core market demographic (which, I might add, really only downloads shit because either they're too poor or don't want to drive to the store just to get a piece of plastic to play a movie)
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[17:43] <slakr> it makes you wonder whether the people on their board graduated with MBAs from the Tard Skool of Bizness.
[17:43] <Logan_> Jamie back on stage to talk about a "very important partner."
�06[17:43] * tommorris doesn't buy music because the last time he did, it didn't play on his computer.
[17:43] <Logan_> T-Mobile time
[17:44] <slakr> allofmp3, an illegal russian site, was doing what itunes did years before itunes did it. Imagine being able to download any song you want for less than a dollar, but in literally any format--including FLAC or WAV--only paying for bandwith of larger files.
[17:44] <slakr> ...and legally
[17:44] <Logan_> "We're pleased to announce that very soon, customers will
[17:44] <Logan_> be able to pay for music purchases on their T-Mobile phone bill."
[17:44] <Logan_> that's so stupid
[17:44] <slakr> that's literally all the industry has to do in order to decimate the pirate industry.
[17:44] <Logan_> like people want more expensive cell phone bills
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[17:45] <Logan_> "Come on, T-Mobile, let us know when you're going to carry the Galaxy Nexus."
[17:45] <Logan_> hah
[17:45] <tommorris> Years ago, I spent 15 GBP on a new album that I was really excited about. The only device I had to play it on was my computer. Because my computer was a Mac, it wouldn't play. So I had to download the album off a file-sharing network. That was the last CD I bought.
[17:45] <slakr> exactly.
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[17:45] <slakr> I rip every dvd I have using AnyDVD simply because I want to watch it on my damn media center without worrying about losing the damn DVD
[17:46] <slakr> or
[17:46] <Logan_> tommorris: a CD wouldn't work on your Mac? o_O
[17:46] <slakr> worrying about the DVD not playing while friends are over
[17:46] <slakr> because of some dumbass DRM
[17:46] <Logan_> I think there's something wrong with your Mac in that case... :P
[17:46] <Earwig> "Because my computer was a Mac, it wouldn't play."
[17:46] <Earwig> ...no
[17:46] <tommorris> Actually yes.
[17:46] <Earwig> er?
[17:46] <slakr> it's like... because of the DRM and all of the other copy-protection shit, it pisses people like me off so much we *want* to pirate shit just so that other people can play the damn movie.
[17:47] <tommorris> Copy protection on CDs.
[17:47] <Logan_> slakr: http://www.mozilla.org/sopa/ <-- do it :P
[17:47] <Logan_> what an idiotic bill
[17:47] <slakr> god it's insane
[17:47] <Logan_> censorship of the Internet my ass
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[17:47] <Logan_> heck, they'll shut down freenode :P
[17:48] <slakr> they'll shut down whoever they want
[17:48] <Earwig> tommorris: I have several CDs that play fine though; I didn't think CDs had copy protection like that?
[17:48] <slakr> all they have to do is pay a small group of peopel to post copyvios somewhere
[17:48] <slakr> and you can shut down any site you want
[17:48] <Logan_> conspiracy theories ftw ;P
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[17:48] <slakr> it's not a conspiracy theory
[17:48] <slakr> it's not intended for that use, either
[17:48] <slakr> but that's the inevitable result
[17:48] <tommorris> Earwig: yes, for a brief period between 2003 and 2006, major labels started producing non-Red Book compliant devices.
[17:48] <Logan_> oh gawd, this is anticlimatic
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[17:49] <slakr> one company will have a bright idea to market itself to big business as a "brand repuatation" or "image crisis management" firm
[17:49] <slakr> and do exactly that
[17:49] <Logan_> they only brought T-Mobile to the Google Music event to announce that people could buy music and have it on their phone bill
[17:49] <slakr> target websites to temporarily blacklist them
[17:49] <Logan_> really? :P
[17:49] <slakr> especially whistleblower websites.
[17:49] <Earwig> tommorris: interesting
[17:49] <tommorris> the music industry was specifically trying to make discs that you could listen to in a CD player but not rip.
[17:49] <Qcoder00> slakr: You mean some 'brand mangment' firms would have simmilar ethics to News International?
[17:49] <Qcoder00>  XD
[17:49] <tommorris> [[Compact Disc and DVD copy protection]]
[17:49] <Logan_> time to update [[Google Music]]
[17:49] <slakr> that and worse.
[17:49] <Earwig> but is that the fault of being on a Mac, as if non-Apple hardware doesn't do that?
[17:50] <Eta-theta> Could someone please ping me when SigmaWP comes on?
[17:50] <Earwig> or is it an OS-level thing?
[17:50] <Earwig> because I thought that kind of stuff was built in lower-level
[17:50] <slakr> I mean, look at 4chan. Someone's paying to ahve them DDOSed while the Occupy movement is going on
[17:50] <bep> just reported like 25 spammers :(
[17:50] <slakr> that's the kind of evil we're talking aobut.
[17:50] <Qcoder00> Slakr: Seriously?
[17:50] <tommorris> Earwig: they included software on a data partition on the disk that worked on Windows. custom audio player thing. but on Mac/Linux, no go.
[17:50] <Qcoder00> Noting of course that Anonymous, 4Chan and Occupy are three different groups
[17:51] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  So you were basicly sold software rather than a CD?
[17:51] <slakr> that meet in the same place.
[17:51] <tommorris> Qcoder00: yes, essentially.
[17:51] <Earwig> That's terrible.
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[17:51] <slakr> they reason if they can take down 4chan
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[17:51] <slakr> then surely the protest will go away
[17:52] <slakr> because they can't communicate and rally
[17:52] <Qcoder00> LOL
[17:52] <slakr> yes.
[17:52] <Qcoder00> 4 chan is hydra like
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[17:52] <slakr> that kind of idiocy is the same kind of idiocy that puts shit like SOPA in government.
[17:52] <Qcoder00> Besides , Anonymous has had soemthing like 6 different servers in it's time
[17:52] <Pilif12p> anyone good with css fancyness?
[17:52] <Qcoder00> If not more
[17:52] <slakr> they don't know how the internet works, so they try to fuck with it.
[17:52] <Qcoder00> slakr: As I said, if you fuck with the Internet, the Internet fucks you up ;)
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[17:53] <Qcoder00> There are people with Anonymous that are higher level hackers...
[17:53] <tommorris> the most hilarious thing about the old CD copy protection schemes is that there was plenty of software that let you do bit-for-bit copying of CDs. So if you wanted to duplicate the CDs, you could do so. But why bother? If you want to make a CD for your friend, you may as well give them one that actually works. ;-)
[17:53] <Qcoder00> .. probably simmilar to the sorts of people that if they were employed by the NSA would be trying to break into China !!
[17:53] <geniice> china is a country
[17:54] <slakr> the nsa isn't active
[17:54] <slakr> they're passive monitoring.
[17:54] <slakr> CIA breaks into shit
[17:54] <Qcoder00> Ah sorry
[17:54] <slakr> :P
[17:54] <tommorris> I've had an idea for a security system. What we do is encrypt something, then give everyone the password. Then we forbid them from telling anyone the password. They then won't tell anyone the password. Right. I'm going into the DRM business.
[17:54] <Qcoder00> You know what i was trying to say though
[17:54] <Pilif12p> nobody?
[17:54] <Pilif12p> it's about SOPA
�06[17:55] * tommorris is all about the solidarity and all but isn't a US-ian.
[17:55] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  Let me know when you get an IPO on a patent sonar ;)
[17:55] <tommorris> See, SOPA is why we need a trade union for programmers and sysadmins.
[17:55] <Pilif12p> http://techessentials.org
[17:55] <Pilif12p> how do I make the box go over the logo?
[17:55] <Qcoder00> tommorris:  The EFF, GNU?
[17:55] <Pilif12p> i currently have this code: <a style="width:150px;height:100px;text-align:center;background-color:#000;position:absolute;z-index:5555;top:100px;left:50px;background-image:url(http://americancensorship.org/images/stop-censorship-small.png);background-position:center center;background-repeat:no-repeat;" href="http://americancensorship.org"></a>
[17:56] <tommorris> Techie trade union: "Pass this shitty law and we all go on strike for a month. Enjoy having your computers not work."
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[17:56] <Qcoder00> I strongly envisage that if SOPA passes, Anonymous will attempt a spectecular
[17:57] <Qcoder00> *spectacular
[17:57] <Olipro> I accidentally the spectacular
[17:58] <Logan_> slakr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Music bam
[17:58] <Logan_> rapid updating ftw
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[17:59] <Logan_> Pilif12p: ^
[18:00] <Pilif12p> localhost: k
[18:00] <Logan_> I'm still not localhost
[18:00] <Logan_> Pilif12p: change the top and left
[18:00] <Logan_> it's absolute positioning
[18:01] <Pilif12p> Logan_: to what? :P
[18:01] <Logan_> the corners of your page
[18:01] <Logan_> note the z-index
[18:01] <Pilif12p> ?
[18:01] <Logan_> gawd, do I have to teach you CSS now? :P
[18:01] <Pilif12p> yes
[18:02] <Logan_> http://www.w3schools.com/css/ <-- there's your lesson
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[18:02] <slakr> I like w3schools's css reference
[18:02] <slakr> I love how it shows the cross-browser stuff
�06[18:02] * slakr has it on hotdial
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[18:02] <Pilif12p> Y U NO ON TOP
[18:03] <bep> http://i.imgur.com/1vcZA.gif
[18:03] <bep> ^)^
[18:03] <bep> ^(^
[18:03] <Logan_> slakr: you think my article could go in ITN?
[18:03] <Logan_> sorry, *the article that I created
[18:03] <Logan_> I have to stop with this [[WP:OWN]] stuff :P
[18:03] <Pilif12p> Logan_: just tell me how to make it on top xD
[18:03] <TParis> Does anyone in here know anything about the brain, moods, and the effects hormones have?  Don't need medical advice, just have a question for a book.
[18:04] <slakr> Logan_: ask the ITN people
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[18:04] <Logan_> slakr: good answer :P
[18:04] <slakr> There's A Process for That
[18:04] <slakr> (tm)
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[18:04] <tommorris> Logan_: you could probably adapt it for Wikinews. ;-)
[18:04] <slakr> Logan_: it's not my first rodeo ;)
[18:04] <Logan_> tommorris: ha
[18:05] <Logan_> for the three people who visit that site? ;)
[18:05] <TheCavalry> Guys, I have a question for you all: if you could have anyone in the world speak at Wikimania, who would you want?
[18:05] <Logan_> Rebecca Black
[18:05] <TheCavalry> "thanks logan"
[18:05] <Logan_> if it's on a Friday, of course
[18:05] <tommorris> Logan_: hey, it's not Friday. No rebecca Black.
[18:05] <Logan_> ah
[18:05] <slakr> Fried Egg!
[18:05] <Logan_> gotta get down
[18:05] <TheCavalry> :( guys
[18:05] <JeffAndroIrcAFK> Obama
[18:06] <TheCavalry> Obama, good suggestion
[18:06] <tommorris> Obama would be pretty cool.
[18:06] <Logan_> TheCavalry: Chase me ladies, I'm the cavalry
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[18:06] <Logan_> I heard he's a good speaker
�06[18:06] * slakr ponders
[18:06] <TheCavalry> Logan_: I don't speak so much as stumble about drunk
[18:06] <Logan_> hah
[18:06] <slakr> Lewis Black would be fun
[18:06] <Pilif12p> Logan_: you don't know? :P
[18:06] <TheCavalry> Lewis Black is a good idea
[18:06] <Logan_> Pilif12p: no, I'm lazy
[18:06] <Pilif12p> Logan_: You know but you're lazy?
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[18:07] <JeffAndroIrc> Andrew Dice Clay.
[18:07] <TheCavalry> Stephen Fry, I thought, as the entertainment
[18:07] <TheCavalry> JeffAndroIrc: Nice idea
[18:07] <tommorris> just get jorm to turn up and lift his shirt up a few times for the ladies.
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[18:07] <JeffAndroIrc> uncensored, of course. :)
[18:07] <Logan_> TheCavalry: Larry Sanger
[18:08] <Logan_> that would be a hoot
[18:08] <TheCavalry> lol
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[18:08] <Logan_> "f*** you all"
[18:08] <JeffAndroIrc> Colbert
[18:08] <Logan_> yes, good suggestion
[18:08] <tommorris> I dunno. Get Larry to do a session called "On the successes of Citizendium".
[18:08] <tommorris> It'd be surrealist comedy.
[18:08] <Logan_> Colbert is actually a good example of celebrities connecting with Wikipedia
[18:08] <slakr> colbert would also be good and would sell ridiculous numbers of tickets
[18:08] <Logan_> since, well, he always coordinates vandalism
[18:08] <slakr> but he's expensive.
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[18:09] <slakr> might try anyway, given that he's poked fun at us a few times :P
[18:09] <geniice> at wikimania? ward cunningham.
[18:09] <JeffAndroIrc> he might jump at the chance.
[18:09] <slakr> he'd be hilarious
[18:09] <geniice> also whoever is behind TVtropes
[18:09] <Seddon> Tim Burners Lee
[18:09] <slakr> (colbert)
[18:09] <tommorris> Seddon: Berners-Lee you mean.
�06[18:09] * tommorris is a pedant.
[18:09] <Seddon> same shit :P
�06[18:09] * Logan_ is a pendant.
[18:10] <Logan_> I'm on necklaces all the time
[18:10] <tommorris> Tim hangs out on IRC btw.
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[18:10] <Maryana> geniice: ward is really, really nice :)
[18:10] <JeffAndroIrc> Pedants of the world unite!
[18:10] <tommorris> Tim is great so long as it is a very geeky crowd
[18:10] <Maryana> *pedants of the world COMMA unite!
[18:10] <Logan_> I think Cory Doctorow would be good, actually
[18:10] <Logan_> all about open stuff
[18:11] <tommorris> People often invite TimBL along expecting some kind of high-falutin' philosophical discussion of the future of the web. but he just wants to talk about cool shit he's been hacking on.
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[18:11] <TheCavalry> Panyd says "duuh, of course cory doctorow"
[18:11] <JeffAndroIrc> No, it's not a call to arms, it's a headline.
[18:11] <tommorris> sadly, the cool shit TimBL hacks on isn't much given that people keep dragging him off to give high-falutin' philosophical lectures on the future of the web.
[18:12] <Logan_> TheCavalry: :D
[18:12] <TheCavalry> what about people who could give talks on civility in online communites etc? Like sociologists or something
[18:12] <tommorris> you could get woss her name from Six Apart
[18:12] <tommorris> Mena Trott
[18:12] <tommorris> who gave a talk about civility in blogging
[18:12] <TheCavalry> i dont know any sociologists despite my studying sociology
[18:13] <JeffAndroIrc> Steve Jobs and George Carlin would have been nice, RIP.
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[18:13] <tommorris> only for someone to troll the IRC channel that was being shown on the screen behind her.
[18:13] <geniice> TheCavalry mallius
[18:13] <Logan_> fatuorum?
[18:13] <Logan_> oh, not that malleus
[18:13] <TheCavalry> geniice: No comment, case ongoing :D
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[18:13] <Qcoder00_> Hi TheCavalry
[18:13] <TheCavalry> at least, it was last i checked
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[18:13] <JeffAndroIrc> Keepscases
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[18:14] <TheCavalry> hi Qcoder00_ - we're discussing "the best possible speakers for wikimania if you had unlimited money and connections"
[18:14] <Qcoder00> TheCavalry:   I'm currently trying to clear a backlog of 'non-free' images without NFUR
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[18:14] <tommorris> oh man, the video of Mena Trott being trolled sadly isn't online any more
[18:14] <TheCavalry> Qcoder00: careful with that....
[18:14] <Qcoder00> I'd appreicate someone haveing a quick glance at my recent efforts and tell me if I need to slow down
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[18:15] <Qcoder00> TheCavalry:  I'm not BetaCommand ;)
[18:15] <geniice> TheCavalry Ian M banks on wikipedia and the culture
[18:15] <Seddon> KFP: They do actually fundraise to meet a budget, rather than the other way around
[18:15] <tommorris> here we go - http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2005/12/be_civil_asshol.php
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[18:16] <TheCavalry> Qcoder00: I am working at present, perhaps in a while? I can't work for WMUK and do on-wiki editing at the same time
[18:16] <Qcoder00> It's not urgent
[18:16] <tommorris> TheCavalry: you need a sockpuppet.
�06[18:16] * tommorris knows that suggesting that an ArbCom member get a sockpuppet may be... problematic.
�06[18:17] * slakr creates TheCavalryBot
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[18:17] <slakr> :P
[18:17] <TheCavalry> I am actually about to change my username :P
[18:17] <geniice> tommorris you are just required to list them all. So far I'm up to 11
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[18:17] <slakr> TheCavalry: Friendly reminder, even though you don't need it: be sure to register your old one immediately :P
[18:17] <tommorris> TheCavalry: are you going to change it to "Chase me ladies, I'm an aircraft carrier" ?
[18:18] <TheCavalry> tommorris: Sadly not. It's to "Richard Symonds". Chase me ladies is too chauvinist
[18:18] <tommorris> or perhaps "Chase me ladies, I have your pants"
[18:18] <WilliamH_UK> heh
[18:18] <TheCavalry> I figure i can go under my real name because i am internet famous enough that you can google me now
[18:19] <slakr> implying that only the calvary gets the ladies
[18:19] <TheCavalry> top two results: ED and WR
[18:19] <tommorris> TheCavalry: wot you need is a blog with lots of kitten photos.
[18:19] <JeffAndroIrc> not good results.
�06[18:20] * slakr isn't internet famous, but has hits on his real name for software he's made
[18:20] <TheCavalry> Meh. It's not a huge problem, JeffAndroIrc, because one of those sites is a parody and the other is a parody of itself
[18:20] <tommorris> TheCavalry: did you see PD's post on WR about Sunday?
[18:20] <Qcoder00> Any admins - Can you undelete [[File:Hope-peruna.jpg]], based on the user response to some other images I think they might be able to provide the missing infromation that led to its deletion?
[18:20] <TheCavalry> tommorris: yes :D
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[18:21] <slakr> # (del/undel) 23:21, 16 November 2011 Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk | contribs | block) restored "File:Hope-peruna.jpg" ‎ (7 revisions and 1 file restored: restoring temporarily, user may provide more info)
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[18:22] <TheCavalry> key word: temporarily
[18:22] <TheCavalry> otherwise just tag and delete again :)
[18:23] <slakr> lol I know, I was posting for Qcoder00
[18:23] <TheCavalry> tommorris: I actually saw Peter Damian taking loads of photos, but he doesnt seem to have uploaded them yet :(
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[18:24] <tommorris> he's keeping them for, err, personal use.
�06[18:25] * tommorris only had one discussion with PD: on the crapness of philosophy articles. He may be banned, but he's right on that. They are crap.
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[18:25] <tommorris> I should really have just said "SOFIXIT" just to wind him up.
[18:25] <geniice> For what its worth I don't seem to have blocked him
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[18:30] <Peter-C> FUCK
[18:31] <Peter-C> I HAD AN IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR BARKINGFISH
[18:31] <Peter-C> DAMN IT
[18:31] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - WHY!?
[18:31] <Eta-theta> Don't get riled up, go to talkpage
[18:31] <geniice> hmm all appear to be human http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Females_with_glasses
[18:32] <Peter-C> Eta-theta - I need a jail guard ASAP
[18:32] <Eta-theta> Huh why
[18:32] <bep> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Anki_Ahlsten_2.jpg
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[18:32] <bep> "I want your joy."
[18:32] <Peter-C> Anyone knows BarkingFish's email?
[18:32] <Eta-theta> No, [[Special:EmailUser]]
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[18:33] <bep> someone put a thing on my talk page
[18:33] <bep> all the other stuff has gone
[18:33] <Eta-theta> What
[18:33] <bep> i'm confusd and scared
[18:33] <Eta-theta> Username?
[18:33] <bep> bepUK
[18:33] <Eta-theta> Cool
[18:33] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: Because
[18:34] <bep> oh wait, this is a different talk page
[18:34] <Eta-theta> So what do you need, bep?
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[18:34] <geniice> TheCavalry actualy my main worry from the meetup was that people decided I was the one to ask about the toothbrush
[18:34] <bep> this is on this commons thing
�06[18:34] * tommorris so needs to get rid of these fucking CRT monitors
[18:34] <bep> Eta-theta: i'm a little confused about commons now
[18:34] <Eta-theta> How so
[18:34] <geniice> tommorris	they break eventualy. I've only got one left
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[18:34] <bep> like. um. how is it different to wikipedia
[18:34] <TheCavalry> geniice: :D:D:D
[18:35] <Gfoley4> bep: only images
[18:35] <Gfoley4> freely licensed images
[18:35] <tommorris> geniice: I've got two. they are lovely, but they have occasional moments of bluriness.
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[18:35] <Eta-theta> it's mainly for media files, bep. Anything uploaded there can be used on any wikimedia project
[18:35] <Peter-C> He blocked emails from users
[18:35] <Peter-C> Damn it
[18:35] <Gfoley4> bep: it's Wikipedia's sister
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[18:35] <Peter-C> how do I memo
[18:36] <Eta-theta> "/query BarkingFish"
[18:36] <geniice> tommorris I picked up a few of the largest size back when people were giving them away
[18:36] <Peter-C> he is gone...
[18:36] <Gfoley4>  /msg MemoServ send Barking Fish <message>
[18:36] <Eta-theta> NO
[18:36] <Gfoley4> no space, oops.
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[18:36] <bep> ok
[18:36] <bep> that makes sense
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[18:37] <Eta-theta> Peter-C: Ping
[18:37] <tommorris> geniice: Ditto. I got four off some bloke in west London who advertised them on LiveJournal as free to anyone who can come and pick 'em up.
[18:37] <Gfoley4> bep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page#Wikipedia's_sister_projects
[18:38] <tommorris> and I've had them for 5 or 6 years now, waiting for them to die
[18:38] <geniice> tommorris do you own any rare earth magnets?
[18:38] <tommorris> geniice: not that I know of.
[18:38] <bep> aaaaaah
[18:38] <bep> okay i get it
[18:38] <geniice> tommorris that may be why yours lasted longer
[18:39] <tommorris> geniice: if I wanted to destroy them, I'd take them out in the driveway and kick the shit out of them.
�06[18:39] * tommorris needs none of this clever science stuff to kill and destroy.
[18:39] <geniice> oh nothing deliberate on my part. Just not careful enough about putting them down
[18:40] <tommorris> actually, I'd probably just calmly take them to the local rubbish tip and recycle them properly.
�06[18:40] * tommorris finds that violence towards computers is rarely effective.
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[18:42] <Eta-theta> Abcde
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[18:43] <bep> oh ffs
[18:43] <bep> i just got it
[18:43] <bep> that's vandalism, right?
[18:43] <bep> if someone replaces socialise with "socialise"
[18:44] <Eta-theta> i guess, maybe
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[18:47] <Eta-theta> you missed blatantly nothing
[18:47] <WilliamH_UK> true
[18:47] <bep> did anyone reply to me
[18:47] <Eta-theta> uh no
[18:47] <Eta-theta> reply where
[18:47] <bep> here
[18:48] <Eta-theta> i did
[18:48] <bep> i missed it :(
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[18:48] <Eta-theta>  [17:43] <bep> oh ffs [17:43] <bep> i just got it [17:43] <bep> that's vandalism, right? [17:43] <bep> if someone replaces socialise with "socialise"
[18:48] <Eta-theta>  [17:44] <Eta-theta> i guess, maybe
[18:48] <Fluffernutter> o_O
[18:48] <WilliamH_UK> bep you missed nothing
�06[18:48] * WilliamH_UK nods
[18:49] <bep> haha
[18:49] <bep> well i reverted it
[18:49] <Eta-theta> "i guess, maybe"
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[18:49] <Eta-theta> Oh my gosh
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[18:50] <bep> what!
[18:51] <Eta-theta> WOW
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[18:51] <Eta-theta> this is weird
[18:51] <bep> what is
[18:52] <Eta-theta> so much joinings and quittings happening practically at once
[18:52] <Eta-theta> interesting!
[18:52] <JeffAndroIrcAFK3> looked like a netsplit
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[18:52] <bep> uergh
[18:52] <bep> "i'll just look at pages need capitalisation help"
[18:52] <Eta-theta> ?
[18:53] <bep> "uhhhh… "
[18:53] <bep> "… uhhhhhhh …"
[18:53] <bep> "too hard…"
[18:53] <Eta-theta> i'm great with capitalisation
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[18:53] <Eta-theta> no really
[18:53] <bep> Eta-theta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_fair
[18:53] <bep> wat do
[18:53] <bep> wat
[18:53] <bep> do
[18:53] <bep>  Universal Expositions -> is that a name? proper noun or just… someone calling them universal
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[18:54] <Eta-theta> look at it's history.
[18:54] <bep> per article title
[18:54] <Eta-theta> Yeah,
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[18:54] <Eta-theta> World's fair --> World's Fair
[18:55] <mareklug> bep i think that's a proper name, translation from French
[18:55] <bep> ok, so someone just tagged it instead of replacing one word?
[18:55] <Eta-theta> tagged it forr what
[18:55] <Eta-theta> for*
[18:55] <bep> capitalisation
[18:55] <Eta-theta> oh
[18:56] <bep> :D
[18:57] <bep> i'm going to REVAMP A WHOLE PAGE
[18:57] <bep> that is my night project
[18:57] <Eta-theta> :D:
[18:57] <bep> oh hang on
[18:58] <bep> this book doesn't appear to be out yet
[18:58] <bep> never mind :(
[18:58] <Eta-theta> Amazing graphic design: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Royal_Coat_of_Arms_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg
[18:58] <bep> <3
�06[18:58] * bep salutes
[18:58] <Eta-theta> for what
[18:59] <Eta-theta> capitalisation?
[18:59] <bep> no, the coat of arms
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[19:00] <Eta-theta> you guys salute when you see the coat of arms?
[19:00] <bep> Eta-theta: notice the penises also
[19:00] <bep> and no, i'm just a royalist
[19:00] <Eta-theta> w&k
[19:01] <bep> how do i submit something for deletion
[19:01] <Eta-theta> Speedy?
[19:01] <Eta-theta> or not
[19:01] <bep> well, i dunno
[19:01] <Eta-theta> What is the article, i'll do it
[19:01] <bep> it's just a paragraph, there are multiple tags on it, the book doesn't appear to be out
[19:01] <bep> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_sixth_kingdom
[19:01] <Eta-theta> WP:AFD
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[19:03] <bep> just put that in the edit page?
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[19:06] <Eta-theta> no
[19:06] <Eta-theta> it's more complicated
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[19:07] <BenjicMouse> I could have SWORN that in the last episode of the original UK version of The Office, (episode 14: "Interview"), the boss character sat in a chicken suit when he was notified about being let go from the company. Yet I just watched this episode and that was not the case.
[19:07] <BenjicMouse> Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about? It was something about "the day of laughs". And he commented something like: "Today, of all days, they make me redundant. It was supposed to be the day of laughter." I swear I saw it. Can anyone figure this out for me?
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[19:09] <bep> Eta-theta: superscript is what?
[19:09] <Eta-theta> bep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superscript
[19:10] <bep> grazie
[19:10] <Eta-theta> bep:
[19:10] <bep> hah no i meant how to use them
[19:10] <Eta-theta> For an example of superscript:
[19:10] <geniice> BenjicMouse ask TVtropes
[19:10] <Eta-theta> <sup>text</sup>
[19:10] <bep> ah, tags
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[19:10] <Eta-theta> yap
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[19:12] <Eta-theta> Well, goodbye, I'll see you guys tomorrow.
[19:12] <bep> ta ra
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[19:13] <Gfoley4> BenjicMouse: only seen the US version.
[19:13] <Gfoley4> sry
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[19:21] <mareklug> BenjicMouse:  are you sure it was the right episode?  From googling I can only find a mention of "the chicken suit david brent wears in episode 5 in season 2 of the office"
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[19:41] <BenjicMouse> mareklug: Really?
[19:41] <BenjicMouse> mareklug: Well, let me look that up.
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[19:48] <Mike_H> (chiefly African American Vernacular, slang, sometimes pejorative) Acting as if one is of a higher social status than one is; suspicions regarding true roots and background are implied.
[19:48] <Mike_H> I love Wiktionary :)
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[19:53] <Myra> Fluffernutter: I'm the sassmaster.
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[19:53] <Fluffernutter> wha?
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[19:56] <kylu> mya mya mya. :D
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[20:01] <Myra> I need to buy a corn broom.
[20:01] <Myra> Blue team, deploy!
[20:02] <BenjicMouse> mareklug: You were right.
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[20:07] <TheCavalry> Any 'crats around? I need some advice on a renaming
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[20:09] <TheCavalry> crats crats crats
�06[20:09] * TheCavalry waves for attention
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[20:15] <foks> TheCavalry, try !crat
[20:15] <WilliamH_UK> TheCavalry, still around?
[20:16] <WilliamH_UK> Hersfold is
[20:17] <TheCavalry> foks, it's not urgent, so I dodn't want to ping them :(*
[20:17] <foks> Nah, it's only one ping.
[20:17] <foks> They'll deal.
[20:17] <foks> :3
[20:17] <Seddon> foks: you almost tempted me to troll just then :P
[20:18] <foks> Bad Seddon
[20:19] <Seddon> what i would love to know is why the fuck am I not an op in this channel lol
[20:20] <Seddon> Maybe I need to troll more...... like i dunno reverse psycology
[20:20] <Seddon> (sp)
[20:21] <Myra> Hi.
[20:21] <Gfoley4> I'm about to lose my mind, you've been gone for so long…
[20:21] <Gfoley4> Myra: you stalk "op"?
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[20:22] <Seddon> Gfoley4: Your about to loose your mind?
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[20:22] <Myra> Hmmm.
[20:22] <Myra> When did this channel get secure?
[20:22] <Myra> GAY.
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[20:23] <Gfoley4> lolwut
�03[20:23] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Seddon
[20:23] <TheCavalry> lol
[20:23] <Myra> Gfoley4: No.
[20:23] <Myra> /clear
[20:23] <Gfoley4> Seddon: Yes. I Need a Doctor.
[20:24] <Seddon> Gfolyer4: I know lots of semi trained doctors.....
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[20:24] <Seddon> Gfoley4: I know lots of semi trained doctors.....
[20:24] <Gfoley4> Ok!
[20:25] <Yamakiri> 5 internets to anyone who remembers me
[20:25] <TParis> I remember you...
[20:25] <foks> Woo, free internets
[20:25] <TParis> ...from about 15 seconds ago
[20:25] <foks> You haven't been gone long, Yamakiri
[20:25] <foks> Only about a year
[20:25] <foks> :3
[20:25] <Gfoley4> yes, foks needs those.
[20:26] <kylu> I've got plenty of internets... back when they were giving out those AOL CDs, I kept them all. I must have hundreds of thousands of free hours hoarded!
[20:26] <foks> Seddon, cosy up there?
[20:26] <Yamakiri> yay~
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[20:27] <Yamakiri> I remember you too, foks.  I always liked your nick but you didn't talk that much from what I remember.
[20:27] <foks> Not really, no :(
[20:27] <Seddon> foks: yep, its so nice being at the top of the pile. It gets so claustrophobic at times down there
[20:27] <foks> I think I may have been Gardenzilla then, Yama
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[20:27] <foks> Seddon, >:C
[20:27] <Seddon> Myra: why the fuck did you voice me.....lol
[20:27] <Yamakiri> ohhhh
[20:28] <Gfoley4> Seddon: You know I was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Need_a_Doctor?
[20:28] <Yamakiri> Gardenzilla...  That rings an older bell than foks.
[20:28] <Seddon> Gfoley4: I do now :)
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[20:28] <Gfoley4> heh
[20:28] <foks> Yeah, stopped using that in October-ish 2010
[20:28] <foks> Anywho must get out of bed
[20:28] <foks> :3
[20:29] <Tired> God fucking damn it.
[20:29] <Gfoley4> tmi
[20:29] <Tired> >:(
[20:29] <Tired> foks: Good morning
[20:29] <foks> o/
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[20:33] <Seddon> foks: im getting lonely :(
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[20:34] <Tired> Seddon: Need some lotion?
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[20:34] <Seddon> Tired: why?... you offering to apply it?
[20:35] <Tired> No, but I think Logan_ would be willing to
�06[20:35] * derpyfoo devoices Seddon 
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[20:41] <Tired> dude  i'm  lying  down using my mouse to type
[20:41] <Tired> lol
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[20:42] <TheCavalry> Tired: Could you explain to me in obtuse and lengthied terms why you are doing that
[20:42] <TheCavalry> in CamelCase, please
[20:42] <SigmaWP> UuU
[20:42] <SigmaWP> Or whatever that ancient was.
[20:43] <Tired> TheCavalry: 'cause I'm so damn tired.
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[20:43] <TheCavalry> NOT ENOUGH CAMELCAPS OR SYLLABLES
[20:43] <Tired> and hi BTW
[20:43] <SigmaWP> TheCavalry: BecauseHe'sSoDamnTired.
[20:43] <derpyfoo> NEEDS CAPS LOCK
[20:43] <SigmaWP> derpyfoo: :D
[20:43] <Tired> BecauseI'mSoGodDamnTired
[20:43] <TheCavalry> :D
[20:43] <TheCavalry> using the mouse to type is maddening. I do not envy you
[20:44] <Tired> TheCavalry: My on-screen keyboard autocompletes... but it gives you suggestions at the top.
[20:44] <TheCavalry> :(
[20:45] <Tired> I was really disappointed to come home and see that all 8 e-mails I had were all shit :/
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[20:45] <Tired> 1 of them was some forex guy advertising his site on twitter...
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[20:46] <Tired> others were mailing lists I regretfully added myself to (people do NOT seem to know the difference between reply and reply all)
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[20:46] <Tired> and others were some old websites I joined.
[20:46] <Tired> None of them were important to me.
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[20:48] <Demiurge1000> If they weren't important to you, why not just make a new email address?
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[20:49] <derpyfoo> Tired: go
[20:49] <derpyfoo> to
[20:49] <derpyfoo> bed
[20:49] <derpyfoo> SigmaWP: :D
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[20:49] <Tired> derpyfoo: It's 5:49 PM. I'll just wake up and won't be able to get back to sleep.
[20:50] <derpyfoo> then go listen to CPAC :P
[20:50] <derpyfoo> Tired: where are you now
[20:50] <derpyfoo> :P
[20:50] <Tired> derpyfoo: I'm in bed.
[20:50] <Tired> ...
[20:51] <Tired> (my laptop is always bedside)
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[20:51] <derpyfoo> you told me it's 5:51, location?
[20:51] <derpyfoo> ontario?
[20:51] <Tired> derpyfoo: Uh.. not even close dude.
[20:52] <derpyfoo> BC?
[20:52] <Tired> bingo.
[20:52] <derpyfoo> heh
[20:52] <derpyfoo> y
[20:52] <Tired> derpyfoo: Gotta be near the supply ;)
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[20:57] <SigmaWP> Why do I always get autoawayed when I get back?
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[20:58] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: Hi
[20:59] <Fluffernutter> yes hello
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[20:59] <SigmaWP> Tiptoety: Hi
�06[20:59] * Tiptoety waves
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[20:59] <derpyfoo> hi
[20:59] <derpyfoo> i'm horny.
�06[21:00] * Fluffernutter hands SigmaWP to derpyfoo
[21:00] <SigmaWP> :O
[21:00] <SigmaWP> Actually, :|
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[21:01] <Prodego> mmm
[21:01] <SigmaWP> Prodego: Hmmmmh
[21:01] <Gfoley4> hi Prodego
[21:01] <Prodego> hello Gfoley4
[21:01] <Betacommand> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Interesting_Statistics
[21:01] <SigmaWP> Gfoley4: Mmhph.
[21:02] <Gfoley4> long time no see
[21:02] <Prodego> Betacommand: alright, 1314! what do I win?
[21:02] <SigmaWP> Betacommand: Hm!
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[21:02] <Betacommand> Prodego: the badge of shame
[21:03] <Gfoley4> yay, 831
[21:03] <Betacommand> 1010 or higher is recommended
[21:03] <Betacommand> (aka 40% mainspace)
[21:03] <SigmaWP> Mhmm!
[21:03] <Prodego> Betacommand: I've written all of 0 articles, so that seems inplausable
[21:04] <SigmaWP> How the HELL did Shubinator get adminship if xe doesn't even have double digit mainspace edits???
[21:04] <Betacommand> Prodego: Ive written zero myself, but Im around 80%
[21:04] <derpyfoo> SigmaWP: a good RfA?
[21:04] <Prodego> Betacommand:  I also complain a lot, or respond to complaining people
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[21:05] <Betacommand> SigmaWP: yeah interesting numbers
[21:05] <SigmaWP> Something must be done
[21:05] <Betacommand> SigmaWP: Im also running a similar report for all users with at least 10k edits
[21:05] <SigmaWP> Excellent!
[21:05] <WilliamH_UK> Betacommand, for me that's completely misrepresentative
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[21:06] <Prodego> 1469	Jimbo Wales	24	8754.0	1491	17.032
[21:06] <SigmaWP> WilliamH_UK: Just because you're at 23%? :P
[21:06] <Anna_Frodesiak> is it just me, or is edit warring less common when students are busy in school?
[21:06] <WilliamH_UK> No, because my article space stuff tends to concern adding content, and for that I do all the work off-wiki, e.g. in notepad, using the preview button
[21:06] <WilliamH_UK> this usually results in gigantic edits out of nowhere
[21:08] <SigmaWP> I hate my CSD log
[21:08] <SigmaWP> From now on, CSDs will be recorded to talkspace!
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[21:08] <Ironholds> Betacommand: would you like me to point out why that's inaccurate? :P
[21:09] <Betacommand> WilliamH_UK: it cannot be misrepresentative, it may not fully represent the value of your edits, but the information is not disputable
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[21:09] <WilliamH_UK> mathematically no
[21:09] <Betacommand> Ironholds: most of the users with low % do very little mainspace work
[21:09] <Ironholds> Betacommand: yes, I'm on 29 percent
[21:10] <SigmaWP> But you have 50 FAs!
[21:10] <Ironholds> you see those content citations on my userpage? the 20 pieces of featured content, the 70 GAs?
[21:10] <Betacommand> Ironholds: I said most not all
[21:10] <Prodego> Ironholds also complains a lot, and deals with complaining a lot
[21:10] <WilliamH_UK> Ironholds you do most of your stuff in your userspace yes?
[21:10] <Ironholds> you see how the "how many articles has this guy written" tool? you see how if you put my username in, it times out?
[21:10] <Prodego> that tends to do it
[21:10] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: exactly.  if I write an article in a sandbox over 90 edits and then move it to the mainspace via copy and paste, boom. an entire GA in one edit, when it took me 90 edits - 90 edits of content work - to write
[21:10] <WilliamH_UK> yup
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[21:13] <WilliamH_UK> I've done a GA in literally 6 edits
[21:13] <WilliamH_UK> no sandbox/userspace stuff
[21:13] <SigmaWP> http://enwp.org/what_color_is_a_carrot sigh.....
�06[21:14] * Fluffernutter glares at foks
[21:14] <foks> :3
�06[21:14] * foks is 2 speedie
[21:14] <Fluffernutter> yes you are
[21:14] <Fluffernutter> damn kids
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[21:16] <SigmaWP> Fluffernutter: Perfect timing
[21:16] <SigmaWP> foks: Should've been blatant hoax
[21:16] <SigmaWP> It said that carrots were blue.
[21:16] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: yeah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Uses took me half an hour
[21:17] <foks> SigmaWP, some carrots are
[21:17] <foks> :3
[21:17] <SigmaWP> Only when you add dye
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[21:17] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Hi
[21:18] <Steven_Zhang> ohauiohai
[21:18] <Fluffernutter> I have a vague memory that some carrots are naturally purple-blue.
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�06[21:18] * derpyfoo gives Fluffernutter  some carrots
[21:18] <Fluffernutter> um, thanks?
[21:19] <Fluffernutter> SigmaWP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CarrotDiversityLg.jpg
[21:19] <foks> Fluffernutter, true
[21:19] <SigmaWP> AAHH!
[21:19] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> I saw my first tornado today.
[21:19] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> It tore down a scoreboard in a baseball field.
[21:20] <SigmaWP> The brown carrot looks disgusting
[21:20] <SigmaWP> Looks like a centipede
[21:20] <SigmaWP> Or maybe a cartoon-ified tree root
[21:20] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> Hate those fucking centipedes.
[21:20] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> they always get in the bed, while the roaches stay on the ground.
[21:20] <Steven_Zhang> Fluffernutter: run for arbcom
[21:20] <Steven_Zhang> kthnx
[21:20] <Fluffernutter> no
[21:20] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> why
[21:21] <Steven_Zhang> Fluffernutter: fine, then take a medcab case :P
[21:21] <Fluffernutter> because a) i've not even settled into my current level of responsibility, let alone taking on more, b) screaming people make me fidgety, and c) I don't know that I have any particular interest in dispute resolution
[21:21] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> lol meditation cabal.
�06[21:22] * SigmaWP 's first interaction with Fluffernutter was in March
[21:22] <Demiurge1000> mmmm, screaming at people
[21:22] <Fluffernutter> even better photo, SigmaWP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carrots_of_many_colors.jpg
[21:22] <SigmaWP> AHHH!
[21:22] <Demiurge1000> Fluffernutter: I think you made the right choice!
[21:22] <SigmaWP> You're ruining my CSD reputation!!!
[21:23] <Fluffernutter> thanks Demiurge1000. it's nice to occasionally hear that I get things right :D
[21:24] <SigmaWP> http://enwp.org/rorange
[21:24] <Steven_Zhang> rilol your face :P
[21:24] <Fluffernutter> neologisms aren't really hoaxes
[21:25] <Fluffernutter> they're useless when they're nonces, but they don't fit the CSD as they're written
[21:25] <Steven_Zhang> some people say stuff like sGLhsdKLGjs;gksladjfnhklDfjSDcfnl;sdj isnt patent nonsense
[21:25] <Steven_Zhang> well, i say
[21:25] <Steven_Zhang> rather, to that, I say
[21:25] <Steven_Zhang> SJLDgjsdoiagjsjkldghoas;dfjsdkl;vnsdjkghsaio;djklghsfjkalgh
[21:26] <Peter-C> Fu
[21:26] <Peter-C> I need barkking fish
[21:26] <Peter-C> Fluffernutter - have you seen the AHA first aid videos?
[21:26] <Peter-C> They are quite hilarious
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[21:30] <SigmaWP> eeekster: 10 minute rule
�06[21:30] * SigmaWP threatens to make Kudpung chew you out if you don't comply with it :D
[21:30] <Ironholds> SigmaWP: now now
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[21:32] <DarkoNeko> nighty
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[21:33] <SigmaWP> Hm, I just found a disambig that navigates 1 article!
�06[21:34] * SigmaWP doesn't have the heart to tag it
[21:34] <Peter-C> I need someone good with words
[21:34] <Peter-C> Ironholds - I want to express my apologies without seeming to desporate
[21:34] <Ironholds> Peter-C: "soz, babes"
[21:35] <Peter-C> Yet my mind wants me to write down "perfusley" apologize
[21:35] <Peter-C> No, really...
[21:35] <Ironholds> profusely
[21:35] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: Just get My76Strat to write a 10 page speech :P
�06[21:35] * Peter-C codes Ironholds and places him in Word
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�06[21:36] * Peter-C makes Ironholds a paper clip
[21:36] <Peter-C> Please write for me :D
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[21:37] <SigmaWP> It was Nicholas II who ended the Romanov dynasty?
�06[21:37] * SigmaWP is confusing his Tsars
[21:38] <Ironholds> SigmaWP: if by "ended" you mean "was shot and thrown down a mine", sure
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[21:54] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> who in here uses uTorrent for their pirating needs?
[21:54] <slon02> ...pirating needs?
[21:55] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> don't act like you don't know. :3
[21:55] <slon02> I plead the fifth >.>
[21:55] <foks> I would advise not breaking the law on freenode :)
[21:56] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> but to be serious, if you were going to download a Debian ISO.
[21:56] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> which method would be faster?
[21:56] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> HTTP or torrent?
[21:56] <foks> Presumably torrent
[21:57] <foks> If it's appropriately seeded
[21:57] <Peter-C> Rainbow-Dash-EN is a snitch
[21:57] <slon02> I would agree with foks..assuming that this is all legal
[21:57] <foks> Debain is legal
[21:57] <foks> *Debian
[21:57] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> Debian is legal.
[21:58] <Snowolf> Actually with debian, don't you have a specific download method
[21:58] <Snowolf> that should be optimal?
[21:58] <Snowolf> something that sounded like jigsaw
[21:58] <Snowolf> *has vague memories of installing debians many years ago*
�06[21:58] * slon02 has noticed that his PRODs have been expiring unusually quickly
[21:58] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> sion has a stalker.
[21:58] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> :3
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[21:59] <slon02> only one?
[21:59] <Rainbow-Dash-EN> cherish it like you do a cancer.
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�08[22:07] <derp> Hey SigmaWP, how are you?
�08[22:07] <derp> Hey foks, how are you?
�08[22:07] <derp> Hey Snowolf, how are you?
�08[22:07] <derp> Hey Peter-C, how are you?
�08[22:07] <derp> Hey Fluffernutter, how are you?
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[22:07] <SigmaWP> derp: :D
�06[22:07] * Fluffernutter kicks derp
[22:07] <foks> behave, please.
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�08[22:07] <derp> wut
[22:07] <Snowolf> derp: I'm fine :) You?
�08[22:07] <derp> SAme :)
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[22:17] <Peter-C> Geeze, my teacher must be coming on to me. She keeps writing sexy things on my paper like "good effort", "great job", and "see me"!
�08[22:17] <derp> not any "do me"
�03[22:17] * Demiurge1000 is now known as D1000|Away
[22:19] <Ironholds> Peter-C: is she blind?
[22:19] <Ironholds> and how would she know how good your jobs were? I thought you only cottaged on weeknights.
[22:19] <Mitchazenia> ...
�06[22:20] * Mitchazenia checks Peter-C's brain
[22:20] <Mitchazenia> Correction
�06[22:20] * Mitchazenia can't find Peter-C's brain
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�08[22:21] <derp> I used to have a art teacher in high school who oddly looked like Luigi from Super Mario Bros
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�08[22:23] <derp> He was nicknamed Luigi and he hated it :P
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�08[22:25] <derp> hey Ironholds :)
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[22:25] <Ironholds> hey, derp
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�08[22:25] <derp> you good?
[22:25] <geniice> interesting deviding line
[22:26] <geniice> https://dhs.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/uk.png
[22:26] <geniice> do the scots not edit?
[22:27] <quanticle> Uh... foks is Scottish and he edits.
[22:27] <foks> ^
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[22:27] <foks> Nobody in Scotland lives in the Highlands.
[22:27] <quanticle> geniice: It's probably more that no one actually lives in those areas of Scotland.
[22:27] <foks> Well not really
[22:27] <geniice> thats a plot of the density of geocoded articles over the UK
�08[22:27] <derp> I doubt foks is scottish
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[22:28] <quanticle> geniice: Overlay it over a map of population density.
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[22:28] <foks> geniice, most in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Dundee, Inverness....
[22:28] <foks> The places you'd expect
[22:28] <quanticle> Or rather, you'd have to overlay it over a population density map before you could draw conclusions, geniice. I mean, if there are relatively few people in an area, of course there will be relatively few wiki edits.
[22:28] <foks> Bare in mind that 6 million live in Scotland
[22:29] <foks> And 6 million live in London
[22:29] <foks> * Bear
[22:31] <Tired> foks: Guess what?
[22:31] <geniice> the thing is how closely it follows the boarder. Cumbria and northumberland are hardly full of people
[22:31] <Tired> foks: I bought an iTunes card :-D
[22:31] <foks> Sweet
�08[22:31] <derp> foks <3 ni ni <3
[22:31] <foks> :3
[22:31] <Tired> to buy...
�08[22:31] <derp> now go buy his album.
[22:31] <Tired> derp: Actually, I was just about to
�08[22:31] <derp> he needs the money to hire cheap hookers.
[22:31] <foks> geniice, Cumbria has more people than Aberdeen, I would imagine
[22:31] <foks> derp, hah
[22:32] <Tired> But Katy Perry released another album. So I bought it instead.
[22:32] <Tired> *shrugs*
[22:32] <foks> dick
[22:32] <foks> :(
[22:32] <Tired> foks: Ikr?
[22:32] <Tired> I actually didn't buy an iTunes card.
[22:32] <Tired> I just said that to get your hopes up and then smush them like a bug/
[22:33] <geniice> foks Aberdeen is a city no?
[22:33] <foks> Yes
[22:33] <foks> A city of less than 250,000
[22:33] <Tired> foks: Lol.
[22:33] <foks> Tired, I'll live without the £4 you'd've given me
�06[22:33] * Tired lives in a city of more than a million
�06[22:33] * foks does too, now.
[22:33] <foks> I hate it. Too cramped.
[22:33] <geniice> I suppose that Aberdeenshire has about half the population of cumbria
[22:33] <Tired> foks: Vancouver! :-D
[22:33] <foks> Too pricey.
[22:34] <foks> geniice, perhaps
[22:34] <geniice> no thats the figure from wikipedia
[22:34] <foks> Ah.
[22:34] <foks> Aberdeenshire is larger than a lot of constituencies in the UK
[22:34] <foks> Covers a good amount of scotland
[22:35] <Tired> foks: Move to Vancouver. We could have coffee.
[22:35] <Tired> (and head to the Amsterdam cafe)
[22:35] <Tired> :-D
[22:35] <foks> I almost lived in Newfoundland.
[22:35] <foks> Trufax.
[22:35] <foks> But we didn't like it.
[22:36] <Tired> foks: Dude. the rest of canada is fucked up.
[22:37] <foks> hah
[22:37] <foks> Well, no, Montreal's okay.
[22:37] <Tired> the prairies are fucked in the head.
[22:37] <foks> Except derp lives there
[22:37] <foks> Toronto spawned Austra
[22:37] <Tired> foks: Come to downtown east side. That'll show you some scary shit.
[22:37] <foks> And Arcade Fire are from ... somewhere in Canada
[22:39] <geniice> see see? if it wasn't for scotand england could rank 30th in terms of population density rather than around 50th
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�08[22:40] <derp> foks, all over canada
[22:41] <foks> Well whatever.
�08[22:41] <derp> But based in Montréal :P
[22:41] <foks> Who the hell is Arcade Fire?
[22:41] <foks> .tumbr.com
[22:41] <foks> +l
[22:41] <foks> I loved that site.
�08[22:41] <derp> indie rock group
[22:41] <foks> 'Cos I own all the Arcade Fire's ablums.
[22:41] <foks> * albums.
�08[22:41] <derp> cool
[22:41] <foks> \o/
[22:41] <foks> Good band!
�08[22:41] <derp> I know where their private studio is located
[22:41] <foks> Lots of good bands from Canada you cultural fuckers
[22:42] <foks> Tokyo Police Club, too
�08[22:42] <derp> The Sainte Catherines?
[22:42] <foks> Not heard of 'em.
[22:42] <foks> :3
[22:43] <quanticle> foks: Like Alanis Morrisette, Avril Lavigne, and Celine Dion, right?
[22:43] <quanticle> Right?
�08[22:43] <derp> foks, check out Dare To Care records
[22:43] <quanticle> Am I right?
[22:43] <quanticle> :P
[22:43] <quanticle> derp ^
�08[22:43] <derp> heh
�08[22:43] <derp> except avril sucks now
�08[22:43] <derp> alanis didn't sing much
[22:43] <quanticle> derp: Kind of the point, man
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�08[22:44] <derp> doesn't sing much now
�08[22:44] <derp> Celine Dion is enjoying her old fat husband with a beard.
�08[22:45] <derp> foks
�08[22:45] <derp> http://g.co/maps/957de
�08[22:45] <derp> Arcade Fire's recording studio in a old church 
[22:45] <foks> Oh, I know where that is
�08[22:45] <derp> in [[Farnham]]
[22:45] <foks> That's where they did Neon Bible
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�08[22:46] <derp> yep
�08[22:46] <derp> ni ni <3
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