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Jump to navigationJump to search--- Log opened Sun Aug 05 00:00:01 2012 --- Day changed Sun Aug 05 2012 00:00 < wctaiwan> Riley_Huntley: what's the problem? 00:00 < Riley_Huntley> I need help finding an IRC server other than webchat.freenode.net. Any suggestions? 00:00 -!- RD_ [~chatzilla@70.141.72.17] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:00 -!- tkazec [~msk@173.247.10.144] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 00:00 -!- RD_ is now known as RD 00:00 < mareklug> http://freenode.net/ 00:00 < wctaiwan> You mean a server or a web client? 00:00 < closedmouth> a different server than freenode? 00:00 < wctaiwan> because webchat.freenode.net is not actually a server. 00:00 -!- RD [~chatzilla@70.141.72.17] has quit [Changing host] 00:00 -!- RD [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:00 -!- RD is now known as Guest97511 00:00 < wctaiwan> calvino.freenode.net. Now that's a server. 00:00 < wctaiwan> or rowling.freenode.net 00:01 -!- Guest97511 is now known as RD2 00:01 < closedmouth> zelazny or death! 00:01 < wctaiwan> you use webchat.freenode.net, a web-based client, to connect to one of them, or another of freenode's many servers. 00:01 < Apheori> Adorable. 00:01 * Ironholds hugs Apheori 00:01 < Ironholds> I'm tremendously sleep-deprived. hi! 00:01 < wctaiwan> I like calvino. It sounds aristocratic. 00:01 < Apheori> O_o 00:01 < wctaiwan> ...again. 00:02 < Apheori> Why? 00:02 < Apheori> I'm sideways and can hardly type. 00:02 < mareklug> wctaiwan: it's after the populist Italian fiction writer :) 00:02 < wctaiwan> mareklug: the invisible knight and all that? 00:03 -!- tfinc [~flyingcli@wikipedia/Tfinc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:03 < mareklug> wctaiwan: um, that title draws a blank here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italo_Calvino 00:04 < wctaiwan> The Nonexistent Knight, that's the one. 00:04 < closedmouth> it usually has a biography of the author in the welcome message 00:04 < wctaiwan> I read a translation in chinese and just gave a phrase that sounds like the original title :p 00:04 < Dcoetzee> Ironholds: :-/ Hopefully you'll get a chance to get more rest soon. 00:04 < mareklug> i know Invisible Cities 00:04 < closedmouth> [13:57:52] === - ZELAZNY, ROGER JOSEPH [1937-1995]. Roger Zelazny was a 00:04 < closedmouth> [13:57:52] === - leading light in the New Wave of science fiction. 00:05 < wctaiwan> so apparently webchat connected me to rowling. 00:05 < RD2> Cool story. 00:05 < Ironholds> Apheori: my master bedroom has windows facing east and no curtains 00:05 < Apheori> Cows. 00:05 < Apheori> Oh? 00:06 < wctaiwan> Riley_Huntley: so do you need a client (something that'll let you connect to a server of your choice) or a server (another place where other channels exist)? 00:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> Ironholds: can of black spraypaint 00:06 < Ironholds> WhiskerBiscuit: kinda not removable 00:06 < Riley_Huntley> wctaiwan: Figured it out thanks 00:06 < Ironholds> Apheori: indeed. 00:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> razor blade 00:06 < wctaiwan> okay. 00:06 < Apheori> Should I be concerned if I was coughing up blood? 00:06 < mareklug> wctaiwan: he already said he does not want a desktop client, cuz they connect to links slowly 00:07 < Apheori> Ironholds: What is the significance of east? 00:07 < closedmouth> that's where the sun comes up 00:07 < wctaiwan> mareklug: okay, then he wants another web client, not a server :p 00:07 < WhiskerBiscuit> not near my house 00:07 < WhiskerBiscuit> heh 00:07 < Apheori> Oh. 00:07 < wctaiwan> and mibbit is blocked by freenode, fwiw. 00:07 < WhiskerBiscuit> rofl 00:07 < Ironholds> Apheori: the sun rises in that direction 00:07 < Ironholds> curse it. CURSE THE SUN. 00:07 < wctaiwan> which is why I use webchat. 00:07 * Ironholds hisses at the sun 00:07 < Apheori> I suggrst cardboard. 00:07 < wctaiwan> oh and mibbit is hideous. 00:07 < Ironholds> Apheori: you're a fucking genius 00:07 < WhiskerBiscuit> I remember a game show where the contestants came up with the three other answers for that question 00:07 < Ironholds> I have like, a billion boxes 00:08 < Ironholds> wheee 00:08 < Apheori> XD 00:08 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:08 * Ironholds hugs Apheori again, goes off to fix it 00:08 < wctaiwan> Ironholds sounds like a vampire. 00:08 < closedmouth> it didn't work for al pacino 00:08 < wctaiwan> hatred of the sun and all that. 00:08 < mareklug> http://freenode.net/ <-- i already suggestsd this as an alt. 00:08 < Ironholds> wctaiwan: I am not! Although I am hunting the fuckers down in skyrim 00:08 < Ironholds> anyway. laters, all 00:08 -!- Ironholds [~f@wikipedia/Ironholds] has quit [Quit: connection reset by peerage] 00:08 < Apheori> Even huggle is hard sidewaYS... 00:09 < wctaiwan> doesn't linux allow you to rotate your dispay 90%? 00:09 < wctaiwan> er, 90 degrees 00:11 < Apheori> I'm sideways. 00:11 -!- kondi [~konarak@117.196.80.128] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:11 -!- kondi [~konarak@117.196.80.128] has quit [Changing host] 00:11 -!- kondi [~konarak@wikimedia/kondicherry] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:11 < Apheori> My brain handles directionality, but I'm still down an arm and gravity is all bad, 00:11 < Apheori> . 00:11 < WhiskerBiscuit> busted? 00:11 < closedmouth> hey how about not being sideways 00:12 < closedmouth> here's an idea 00:12 < Apheori> But that would require movin. 00:12 < Apheori> g 00:13 < closedmouth> moving is underrated 00:13 < Apheori> It's hard. 00:13 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@50-47-197-129.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:13 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@50-47-197-129.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Changing host] 00:13 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:13 < Apheori> It requires arrangging pillows. 00:14 < closedmouth> no it doesn't! 00:14 -!- kondi [~konarak@wikimedia/kondicherry] has quit [Client Quit] 00:14 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:14 < Apheori> gvbhyjnkml;'./ 00:14 < Apheori> Oops. 00:14 -!- kondi [~konarak@117.196.80.128] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:14 -!- kondi [~konarak@117.196.80.128] has quit [Changing host] 00:14 -!- kondi [~konarak@wikimedia/kondicherry] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:15 < wctaiwan> pillows, plural. 00:16 < wctaiwan> you rich spoiled wasteful americans >.> 00:16 < Apheori> Two of my pillows are over twice my age. 00:16 < Apheori> Don't diss them! 00:16 < closedmouth> what, that's gross 00:16 < Apheori> Especially the one stuffed with lint. 00:17 < closedmouth> must be filled with bed bugs 00:18 -!- kondi [~konarak@wikimedia/kondicherry] has left #wikipedia-en [] 00:18 < WhiskerBiscuit> "How old is that girl? 18 you say? I've got underwear older than that" 00:18 < mareklug> wctaiwan: this may interest you http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/synaptics/ "So you have rotated display ('xrandr --orientation') and now touchpad ('synaptics') can't be used...." 00:18 -!- kondi [~konarak@wikimedia/kondicherry] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:19 < wctaiwan> mareklug: I use two of the three mainstream operating systems as desktop OSes. Guess which one I don't :P 00:19 < mareklug> i was just following' up... 00:19 < WhiskerBiscuit> the one thats free 00:19 -!- kondi [~konarak@wikimedia/kondicherry] has quit [Client Quit] 00:19 < closedmouth> BSD? 00:20 < wctaiwan> BSD is not a mainstream OS.. at least I thought it wasn't. 00:20 < wctaiwan> and I know Linux is just a kernel. >.> 00:20 < mareklug> it used to be 00:20 < Apheori> You use it. 00:20 < Apheori> It is! 00:20 < Apheori> Or rather, it's in one. 00:20 < Dcoetzee> OS X is based on BSD and that's pretty mainstream. 00:20 < mareklug> bsd4.3 on Vax 00:20 < wctaiwan> the lineage is sufficiently diluted, Dcoetzee 00:20 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:21 < wctaiwan> It's based on NextSTEP or whatever that was, which was in turn based on NetBSD.... if I remember correctly from OS class. And that's just Mac OS X 10.0 00:21 < Jeske_Merensky> I keep having time-out issues. It's pissing me off, because I can't suss the problem. 00:21 -!- Kangaroopower [~quassel@70.231.239.235] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:21 < wctaiwan> there have been 8 major iterations since 00:22 < mareklug> mountain lion is so much more than its bsd. i mean, the iCloud itself. 00:22 < wctaiwan> I hate the cloud. 00:22 < WhiskerBiscuit> meh 00:22 < wctaiwan> I don't have iCloud enabled. 00:23 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23 < mareklug> wctaiwan: yer a luddite 00:23 < WhiskerBiscuit> i hate apple gimmicks 00:23 < wctaiwan> mareklug: might be, yes 00:23 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:23 < wctaiwan> also mareklug: http://macperformanceguide.com/MountainLion-SaveAs-data-destruction.html you might want to know about that 00:23 -!- Kangaroopower [~quassel@70.231.239.235] has quit [Changing host] 00:23 -!- Kangaroopower [~quassel@wikia/Kangaroopower] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:23 < mareklug> i enjoy my iPod touch and my iMac working seamlessly together 00:24 < WhiskerBiscuit> mareklug: true 00:24 < Jeske_Merensky> Anyone have any ideas as to why IRC keeps timing out its connection? 00:24 < WhiskerBiscuit> but nothing apple can do will ever make up for the obscenity known as itunes 00:24 < wctaiwan> iTunes is alright on OS X, really 00:24 < WhiskerBiscuit> Jeske_Merensky: your client has a low idle set? 00:25 < closedmouth> Jeske_Merensky: your connection is fucked 00:25 < RD2> Jeske_Merensky: Probably an issue on your end (not freenode..I dont see it happening to anybody else) 00:25 < wctaiwan> Freenode is always 240s, WhiskerBiscuit, iirc. 00:25 < wctaiwan> oh wait no 00:25 < wctaiwan> I'm talking out of my arse 00:25 < WhiskerBiscuit> Itunes and the entire playlist concept is crap 00:25 -!- Jmajeremy [~Jmajeremy@bas3-montreal50-2925372516.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:25 -!- Jmajeremy [~Jmajeremy@bas3-montreal50-2925372516.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Changing host] 00:25 -!- Jmajeremy [~Jmajeremy@wikipedia/Jmajeremy] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:25 < WhiskerBiscuit> best thing about ios is the synching between devices 00:25 < wctaiwan> mareklug: part of the reason why I haven't enabled iCloud is that doing so requires me to ditch my current apple ID. 00:26 < Jeske_Merensky> closedmouth) What would you suggest, then? My router's been fucked with all this week because my sister is an idiot, and if I fuck with it I'll likely ABEND myself 00:26 < wctaiwan> I like how I can log in with wctaiwan instead of wctaiwan@gmail.com 00:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> wctaiwan: why ditch? 00:26 * wctaiwan is lazy 00:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> ah 00:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> how old is your appleid? 00:26 < wctaiwan> from before they forced you to use an email, apparently :p 00:26 < mareklug> wctaiwan: thanks for the heads up. i guess i am happy to have a working time capsule 00:26 < closedmouth> i can't fix your internet for you 00:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> in russia internet fix you 00:27 < Jeske_Merensky> WhiskerBiscuit) I'm using Chatzilla; I wouldn't know how to check the idle. 00:27 -!- Jmajeremy [~Jmajeremy@wikipedia/Jmajeremy] has quit [Client Quit] 00:27 < wctaiwan> mareklug: I also don't have an iOS device that runs iOS 5+, so that's one major point of iCloud gone. 00:27 < WhiskerBiscuit> switch clinets and see if that helps. xchat is pretty good 00:27 < RD2> ChatZilla isn't the problem either, prob 00:27 < RD2> Try moving. 00:27 < WhiskerBiscuit> well, you wont know until you try another 00:28 < Jeske_Merensky> WhiskerBiscuit) I also tried KVIRC earlier. It was having identical issues. 00:28 < mareklug> wctaiwan: but it's true nonetheless, the iCloud functionality is a big other layer over bsd 00:28 < WhiskerBiscuit> what happend to your routeR? 00:28 < wctaiwan> mareklug: well I don't consider OS X to be BSD so :p 00:29 < Jeske_Merensky> WhiskerBiscuit) My half-brother's been tinkering with its settings 00:30 < mareklug> Jeske_Merensky: why not hard reset the thing to factory settings? 00:30 < WhiskerBiscuit> what I would do 00:30 -!- Apheori [~dirien@wikimedia/Isarra] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:30 < WhiskerBiscuit> does freenode required Ident? 00:31 < Jeske_Merensky> WhiskerBiscuit) No, but I auto-ID on login 00:31 < WhiskerBiscuit> what router are you using? it might be easier to reset the firmware 00:32 < Jeske_Merensky> I don't know the model. 00:32 < Jeske_Merensky> It's flat, grey, and compact. 00:33 < mareklug> um, there is usually a sticker underside 00:33 < WhiskerBiscuit> well browse to http://192.168.1.1 and find out 00:33 < closedmouth> change the router password and tell your brother to fuck off 00:34 < mareklug> he has to restore it first 00:34 < wctaiwan> Jeske_Merensky: brand? 00:34 < WhiskerBiscuit> i bet he is a redhead 00:34 < WhiskerBiscuit> you should beat him 00:34 < Jeske_Merensky> Westell, apparently 00:34 < WhiskerBiscuit> get a paper clip 00:34 < Jeske_Merensky> closedmouth) Usually he knows what the fuck he's doing 00:34 < closedmouth> so get him to fix it 00:34 < mareklug> are you sure that's not your cable/dsl box? 00:35 < WhiskerBiscuit> i doubt it 00:35 < WhiskerBiscuit> Westell default username/password is 00:35 < WhiskerBiscuit> admin/password 00:35 < WhiskerBiscuit> are you on wifi? 00:35 < Jeske_Merensky> WhiskerBiscuit) Yes. 00:35 < wctaiwan> westell seems to use 192.168.1.1 alright 00:35 < Jeske_Merensky> I am on wireless 00:35 < WhiskerBiscuit> so the router is wifi as well? 00:35 < WhiskerBiscuit> or is the wifi seperate? 00:36 < Jeske_Merensky> The router itself is wired to another one 00:36 < WhiskerBiscuit> so what is providing wifi? another one? 00:36 < mareklug> sounds like a del box... 00:36 < mareklug> dsl 00:37 < Jeske_Merensky> The router is. It's providing wi-fi, and gets its internet from another router, which is hooked up to the modem in the back 00:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> in any case to reset , just get a paper clip 00:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> and hold it in the reset (red) hole for 10 secs 00:37 < Jeske_Merensky> Should I forward some ports? 00:37 < wctaiwan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Upcountry holy.. 00:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> after it reboots, connect to the unsecure westell network 00:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> no need to forward ports 00:38 < WhiskerBiscuit> not for irc at least 00:38 < Jeske_Merensky> I'll do it when I've an opportunity. 00:39 < WhiskerBiscuit> just beat your brother 00:39 < Jeske_Merensky> I'm not a good fighter 00:39 < mareklug> 2:30 in the morning souns like a prime opportunity 00:39 < Jeske_Merensky> mareklug) It's 00:39 here 00:39 -!- IDoH [~I@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:39 < WhiskerBiscuit> aw.. what happened to all the lavender at ANI 00:39 < WhiskerBiscuit> someones fucking with the big board 00:40 < IDoH> Hey 00:40 < WhiskerBiscuit> You 00:40 < IDoH> ...what? 00:41 * WhiskerBiscuit smacks IDoH with some Pink Floyd 00:41 < mareklug> i was just gonna say that 00:41 < WhiskerBiscuit> I saw the Wall last month 00:41 < WhiskerBiscuit> fucking amazing 00:41 < IDoH> What does pink floyd have to do with this? 00:42 < mareklug> Can You Hear Me? 00:42 < WhiskerBiscuit> [[Hey You]] 00:42 < wctaiwan> oh crap, the chick-fil-a fiasco spilled over to enwp? 00:42 < wctaiwan> That's both sad and hilarious. 00:42 < WhiskerBiscuit> where? 00:42 < IDoH> Oh, there's a song called "Hey You"? 00:42 < wctaiwan> ANI. 00:42 < WhiskerBiscuit> oh yeah 00:43 < WhiskerBiscuit> I read about it there 00:43 < IDoH> Oh. I'm not a pink floyd fan. And my head hurts. Ow. lol 00:43 < WhiskerBiscuit> I missed the fireworks here 00:43 < wctaiwan> I saw a summary somewhere, can't remember where. 00:43 < mareklug> IDoH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gELhNbDcLE0 00:43 < wctaiwan> something about Jim Henson Company supporting GLAAD <3 00:44 < WhiskerBiscuit> I support delicous chicken 00:44 -!- Lydia_WMDE [~lydia@quassel.jefferai.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:44 < IDoH> mareklug: Thanks. I'm listening to the song now. 00:44 < mareklug> WhiskerBiscuit: then you should head on to Wendy's 00:44 -!- MJ94 [~MJ94@wikimedia/mj94] has quit [Quit: Textual v2.1 (ZTN Fork v2.0.1) http://www.ztecnet.net/textual] 00:44 < WhiskerBiscuit> Not even close to CfA 00:45 < IDoH> Does anyone have a decent, Mac compatible Igloo alternative? It's having trouble connecting to the remote server. 00:46 -!- schiste [~schiste@81.253.51.72] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:46 -!- schiste [~schiste@81.253.51.72] has quit [Changing host] 00:46 -!- schiste [~schiste@wikimedia/schiste] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:46 < IDoH> Hey schiste 00:46 < mareklug> WhiskerBiscuit: maybe. haven't travelled to our out of the way chicks. but at Wendy's you can get also a Baconator double. 00:46 -!- Kangaroopower [~quassel@wikia/Kangaroopower] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46 < WhiskerBiscuit> Heart attack to go... no thank you 00:47 -!- Lydia_WMDE [~lydia@quassel.jefferai.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:47 < IDoH> But just think, Whisker, you would be eating bacon. In other words, you would be eating an internet meme! 00:47 < IDoH> hey Lydia 00:47 < WhiskerBiscuit> this is creepy, yet hilarious 00:47 < WhiskerBiscuit> http://28.media.tumblr.com/SYd0ThjMApe4xl8qtoL1752to1_400.jpg 00:47 < Lydia_WMDE> Hi IDoH 00:47 < IDoH> Uh? 00:48 < WhiskerBiscuit> wha? 00:48 < IDoH> Most random porn I ever suh 00:48 < IDoH> Saw, even 00:48 < WhiskerBiscuit> its a "statutes attack" theme 00:48 < WhiskerBiscuit> similar, but not pornish 00:48 < WhiskerBiscuit> http://www.fatwallet.com/static/attachments/197688_statues.jpg 00:48 < mareklug> IDoH: tell me first what Igloo is 00:49 < IDoH> Anti-vandalism software 00:49 < IDoH> [[WP:IGLOO]] 00:49 < IDoH> Uh oh. Statues are attacking! 00:49 < Riley_Huntley> I don't like Igloo 00:49 < IDoH> lol 00:49 < IDoH> Why not, Riley? 00:49 < wctaiwan> WhiskerBiscuit: kindly say so next time you're linking to something nsfw.. 00:50 < WhiskerBiscuit> sowwy 00:50 < wctaiwan> thanks. 00:51 < WhiskerBiscuit> NSFW, but still funny http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yDi9UGBY6n8/SSHYlymlFJI/AAAAAAAACv4/HwYdXaglZOM/s400/blowing_ronald_mcdonald_1.jpg 00:51 -!- Jeske_Merensky_ [~chatzilla@50-47-197-129.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:51 -!- Jeske_Merensky_ [~chatzilla@50-47-197-129.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Changing host] 00:51 -!- Jeske_Merensky_ [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:51 < IDoH> You know what's creepy? There's a Ronald statue in my local mall with that exact same pose. 00:51 < WhiskerBiscuit> damn, i keep reading his name as Jerry Sandusky 00:51 < IDoH> hey Jeske 00:51 < WhiskerBiscuit> thats creepy 00:52 < WhiskerBiscuit> I think they made thousands of those statues 00:52 < WhiskerBiscuit> I saw one in Thailand 00:52 < IDoH> Yes, it is creepy, and yes, those statues are probably mass-produced. 00:52 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:52 < mareklug> "This user freezes vandals in their tracks with Igloo!" <-- this user box makes no sense. An igloo is an oasis of warmth. It does not freeze anything, just the opposite. 00:52 -!- Jeske_Merensky_ is now known as Jeske_Merensky 00:52 < IDoH> lol, mareklug 00:52 < Dcoetzee> Igloos are pretty cold on the outside. 00:52 < IDoH> true 00:53 < WhiskerBiscuit> yeah, jerry is still timing out 00:53 < WhiskerBiscuit> jeske 00:53 < WhiskerBiscuit> bleh 00:53 < mareklug> Dcoetzee: so is planet Earth 00:53 < WhiskerBiscuit> Can I get a comment on this Afd? This guy is freaking out... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/No_One_Rides_for_Free 00:53 < wctaiwan> mareklug: it only makes no sense if you take "freeze" literally. 00:54 < IDoH> Mareklug: Yeah, I mean, there's always venus to compare to. 00:54 < mareklug> IDoH: i'm afraid Venus also is rather cold on the outside :) 00:54 < WhiskerBiscuit> They could call it Witches boob instead 00:54 < IDoH> lol 00:55 < WhiskerBiscuit> [[Witches' mark]] 00:55 < mareklug> wctaiwan: you mean, arrest them in the igloo? 00:55 < wctaiwan> mareklug: or just, y'know, stop >.> 00:55 < WhiskerBiscuit> no, shut em out of the igloo 00:56 < WhiskerBiscuit> mv Igloo --> Witchs' tit 00:56 -!- gizmosLHS [~agodzilla@c-68-42-32-33.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:56 -!- IDoH [~I@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has left #wikipedia-en [] 00:56 < Dcoetzee> WhiskerBiscuit: Can you please comment on whether Drowned in Sound and Debaser.it are RSs? 00:56 -!- gizmosLHS [~agodzilla@c-68-42-32-33.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:56 < mareklug> it would be more apt and more wild to have: "this user freezes vandals outside their igloos" 00:57 < mareklug> at least the vandals would be anachronistic 00:57 < Dcoetzee> mareklug: An igloo is simply an isulator. In principle, one can create a "reverse igloo" where you build the igloo in a warm climate, and fill the inside with ice or liquid nitrogen, cooling it below the outside temperature. 00:57 < wctaiwan> then it wouldn't be an igloo :p 00:58 < mareklug> right. 00:58 < WhiskerBiscuit> drowned in sound looks like a wiki 00:58 < wctaiwan> it's be a reverse igloo. 00:58 < WhiskerBiscuit> so that would make it a tertiary source, so no 00:58 < WhiskerBiscuit> And Debaser is in eye-tie which I can't read 00:58 < wctaiwan> WhiskerBiscuit: ehh, that it's a tertiary source isn't the issue. It's the user contributed part 00:58 < mareklug> also, igloo's charm and architectural sensee rests on its geography and thus building material. snow. not even ice. 00:59 < WhiskerBiscuit> wctaiwan: well, wikipedia is user contributed and a tertiary source 00:59 -!- gizmosLHS [~agodzilla@c-68-42-32-33.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:59 < WhiskerBiscuit> and no one would consider wpen a RS 00:59 < WhiskerBiscuit> or no one should that is 00:59 < wctaiwan> WhiskerBiscuit: yes, but you could have a tertiary source written by say, a journalist, with proper research and verification. Nothing wrong with that 00:59 < Dcoetzee> WhiskerBiscuit: The point is that tertiary sources can be RS. But sources written by random guys with no screening are not. 00:59 -!- gizmosLHS [~agodzilla@c-68-42-32-33.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:59 -!- MJ94 [~MJ94@wikimedia/mj94] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:00 < wctaiwan> also, a wiki by itself may also be fine: e.g. a company employing an employee-edited wiki as a knowledgebase for information about its products. 01:00 < wctaiwan> http://wikimediafoundation.org/ is a reliable source for information related to the WMF. 01:01 < WhiskerBiscuit> but with verifucation they are becoming seconday sources again 01:01 < wctaiwan> uh, no. >.> 01:01 < WhiskerBiscuit> if you pull information out of a tertiary souce and use it, its still a teritary source 01:02 < wctaiwan> [[Tertiary source]]: nothing about verification there. 01:02 < WhiskerBiscuit> not disputing the verification part 01:02 < Dcoetzee> Okay put my vd in 01:02 < WhiskerBiscuit> oh, nvm. I see what you are saying about TS 01:02 < wctaiwan> yeah :p 01:03 < wctaiwan> you're essentially right in that in this case, the wiki probably isn't an RS 01:03 < WhiskerBiscuit> i should have just redirected the fucking artile in the first place insead of AfD 01:03 -!- Riley_Huntley [acdac013@wikipedia/Riley-Huntley] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:03 < wctaiwan> maybe, yeah. 01:03 < WhiskerBiscuit> now I feel like I have to go hit their entire catalog, cos they are all llike that 01:04 < Dcoetzee> WhiskerBiscuit: Please don't circumvent process when there is a dispute. 01:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> But I feel for the guy 01:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> he likes this albumn 01:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> Dcoetzee: why would i? that just pisses people off 01:04 < Dcoetzee> You just said you should have redirected it :-P 01:05 < WhiskerBiscuit> no, instead of Afd'ing it 01:05 < wctaiwan> Dcoetzee: that's not circumvention... 01:05 < wctaiwan> you can reverse a redirect easily enough 01:05 < WhiskerBiscuit> i had no idea there would be a pissed off fan 01:05 < wctaiwan> it just uses a different, less heated venue. 01:05 < Dcoetzee> Okay it's not exactly circumvention since it can be reverted. But it's not cool to redirect instead of AfD in the hopes of avoiding detection. 01:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> I only found the article cos I was googling the phrase "Gas, Cash, Grass or Ass. No one rides for free" 01:06 < wctaiwan> right. 01:06 * wctaiwan takes his pedantic hat off 01:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> and then I found that article 01:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> and said "hmmmm. no sources whatsoever" 01:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> well, no RS 01:07 < WhiskerBiscuit> I keep meaing to do that to all of the Playmates 01:07 < WhiskerBiscuit> but maybe not now 01:08 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:08 < WhiskerBiscuit> So who was SkepticAnonymous in here? 01:10 -!- Jeske_Merensky_ [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:10 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:10 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:10 -!- Jeske_Merensky_ is now known as Jeske_Merensky 01:11 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has left #wikipedia-en [] 01:11 < WhiskerBiscuit> So I have a BLP question 01:11 < WhiskerBiscuit> If someone accuses an editor of having COI, its not BLP 01:12 < WhiskerBiscuit> But if somneone accuses the subject of a BLP of having a COI that IS 01:12 < wctaiwan> er, what? No. 01:12 < WhiskerBiscuit> I saw it last week 01:12 -!- Bidgee [Bidgee@wikimedia-commons/bidgee] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:13 < WhiskerBiscuit> An editor who is also a subject of a BLP 01:13 < WhiskerBiscuit> edits under his real name 01:13 < WhiskerBiscuit> It was some wierd shit... the adults wearing diapers thing 01:13 < wctaiwan> ...I'm going to stay out of this one. 01:14 < WhiskerBiscuit> i wasnt involved, just confused by reading it 01:14 < wctaiwan> yeah, still going to stay out of it :p 01:14 < WhiskerBiscuit> then again, I start reading [[m:The Wrong Version]] and wonder why anyone would want to be an admin 01:15 < WhiskerBiscuit> and thats only getting 1/4 through it 01:15 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 01:16 -!- sDrewthedoff [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:17 -!- sDrewthedoff [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has left #wikipedia-en [] 01:22 -!- 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plot. 05:22 < wctaiwan> :O 05:23 < wctaiwan> foks: be sure to let me know when you finish 05:23 < wctaiwan> I love IF... the ones I manage to finish, anyway >.> 05:23 < foks> okay. I have two rooms at the moment. 05:23 < wctaiwan> good luck! 05:23 < foks> It's not exactly enthralling entairtainment at present ;) 05:23 < wiki_user> hi to all! i need some help on understanding a topic on wikipedia 05:23 < wctaiwan> (ever played Lost Pig? Now that was a good one... and there were some others too; I can't remember which; but there were some) 05:23 * wctaiwan nods emphatically 05:23 < wctaiwan> wiki_user: what's up? 05:24 < foks> wctaiwan, nope, but I think it rings a bell 05:24 < wiki_user> here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754 05:24 < foks> Photopia is the best IF I've ever played 05:24 < foks> "played", "read" more like 05:24 < wiki_user> in section Format, i can't understand why the max num that can be represented is 1x10^(-101) 05:25 < wctaiwan> foks: go play it sometime. It's funny, and it's also brilliant in that it's basically a tutorial of how IF generally works, except it manages to integrate the low difficulty and many hints into the plot. 05:27 < wctaiwan> wiki_user: sorry, afraid I'm out of my depth here. 05:27 < wctaiwan> oh and the H2G2 IF game was pretty good too.. 05:28 < wiki_user> if the exponent is 96 and the precision is 7, the the maximum number representable is 9.999999x10^96 or (equally) 9999999x10^90 05:28 < wiki_user> and until here it's ok 05:30 < wiki_user> the minimum positive number (excluse zero) isn't 0000001x10^-96? 05:30 -!- MartijnH [~asdesfs@i95004.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:30 < wiki_user> wikipedia report 1x10^-101 05:30 -!- Jayflux [~jay_knows@cpc1-dudl6-0-0-cust1981.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:31 < wctaiwan> are you looking at "q must be an integer such that 1-emax <= q+p-1 <= emax (e.g., if p=7 and emax=96 then q is -101 through 90)"? 05:33 < Wehwalt> That's why I didn't go for advanced degrees in math 05:37 < wctaiwan> wiki_user: keep in mind that emax does not define the exponent, q does. 2-emax-p <= q <= 1+emax-p. 05:38 < wctaiwan> I gave up trying to do the math :p but I think the numbers look alright. 05:38 -!- MartijnH [~asdesfs@i95004.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Changing host] 05:38 -!- MartijnH [~asdesfs@wikipedia/Martijn-Hoekstra] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:39 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@wikimedia/Nickanc] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 05:42 -!- Rjd0060 is now known as RD 05:48 -!- Migrant [~frankski@ti0095a380-0211.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: Migrant] 05:48 -!- Mrmatiko [~Mrmatiko@wikipedia/Mrmatiko] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:49 -!- mjthompson [~mjt@TestWiki/mjthompson] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:50 < mjthompson> Vandalism, I don't want to revert since I sorta know the person that did it :P: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timomatic&diff=505895399&oldid=505884026 05:50 < wiki_user> yes but why 1-emax <= q+p-1 and not emax <= q+p-1? 05:50 -!- mjthompson [~mjt@TestWiki/mjthompson] has left #wikipedia-en ["Leaving"] 05:51 < Froodsleep> oh hey 05:51 < Froodsleep> new warnings 05:51 -!- Froodsleep is now known as Frood 05:51 < wiki_user> those calc is a conversion from,for example 9.999999x10^96 to 9999999x10^90 that is the same 05:51 < wiki_user> to the right q <= emax -p +1 05:51 < wiki_user> q <= 96 - 7 +1 = q <= 96-6 = 90 05:52 < wiki_user> but to the left it shouldn't be the same? 05:55 < Frood> Wehwalt: Since we now know you're part of the cabal that doesn't exist, can you take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Timomatic_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 please? 05:57 -!- lubmil [~lubmil@89-67-33-69.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: burza] 05:58 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@mediawiki/Yuvipandan] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:58 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@37.117.18.94] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:58 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@37.117.18.94] has quit [Changing host] 05:58 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@wikimedia/Nickanc] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:00 < wctaiwan> wiki_user: not really, when you're calculating the lower bound, you're using 1 for c. When you're calculating the upper bound, that becomes b^p-1 i.e. 999999. 06:01 < wctaiwan> and I have no idea why things are defined as they are. Surely the mathematicians and computer scientists know what they're doing >.> 06:02 < wctaiwan> at least I hope they do. 06:03 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:05 < Frood> !admin please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Timomatic_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 ? 06:06 < wiki_user> wctaiwan: i really can't understand 06:07 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@mediawiki/Yuvipandan] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:07 < wctaiwan> wiki_user: sorry. I think it's possible that the exponents are different on either end, but beyond that I don't have much to offer. The formulae are straightforward enough: The numbers are either right or they aren't, and if they're not right I don't know what would be right. 06:07 < wctaiwan> Maybe you'll get better help elsewhere :/ 06:09 < Frood> foks: <3 06:09 < foks> np 06:09 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@117.193.83.237] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:09 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@117.193.83.237] has quit [Changing host] 06:09 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@mediawiki/Yuvipandan] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:11 < wctaiwan> I don't even get the joke. 06:16 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@mediawiki/Yuvipandan] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:21 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:23 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:23 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@117.193.74.253] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:23 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@117.193.74.253] has quit [Changing host] 06:23 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@mediawiki/Yuvipandan] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:26 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [] 06:31 < Frood> foks: wanna block [[User:Cdctmom1980]] for block evasion? 06:31 < foks> Who's he like 06:32 < Frood> Cdctmom6712 probably 06:33 < foks> huh 06:33 < foks> open an spa 06:33 < foks> * spi 06:33 < foks> :P 06:33 < foks> lazy 06:33 < foks> Or indeed: !checkuser 06:35 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:38 < Frood> foks: i opened one, didn't request CU though :P 06:38 < Frood> because it's a fuck 06:38 < Frood> *duck 06:40 < Bruvtakesover> xd 06:40 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:48 -!- Aetitiae [~Aetitiae@unaffiliated/aetitiae] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:48 -!- schiste [~schiste@wikimedia/schiste] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:53 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:54 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:55 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:55 < foks> Murray takes the first set! 06:55 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@pool-71-126-34-32.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:55 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@pool-71-126-34-32.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:55 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:59 < Frood> !admin block Wikicop2012 please, socking, pretending to be admin, general troll 07:01 < MartijnH> Foxj was quicker than me 07:01 < Frood> except he said temporarily on the talk page :P 07:02 < foks> Twinkle trolled me. 07:02 < foks> :( 07:02 -!- Qcoder02 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/qcoder02] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:03 < Qcoder02> Seen BarkingFish or Kylu? 07:03 -!- Jasper_Deng_away [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:03 -!- jakr [~z@unaffiliated/jakr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:03 < foks> Good Lord Murray's just broken him again! 07:04 < Theopolisme> foks: Federer is just probably REALLY tired from yesterday 07:04 < foks> Excuses excuses. 07:04 < foks> :D 07:05 -!- Bencmq [8984fa0d@wikipedia/Bencmq] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:05 < foks> What was he doing yesterday? 07:05 < Theopolisme> AHEM 07:05 < Qcoder02> Anyone here want to start a petition? 07:05 < Qcoder02> It needs someone in California ideally 07:06 < Theopolisme> foks: http://news.yahoo.com/federer-edges-del-potro-olympic-semifinals-155659204--oly.html 07:06 -!- yuvipand1 [~yuvipanda@117.193.71.60] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:07 < foks> theahem, that was Friday 07:07 < foks> Theopolisme, ^ 07:07 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@mediawiki/Yuvipandan] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:08 -!- wiki_user [~sleax@87.18.249.15] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 07:10 < Theopolisme> Bah, oh well 07:11 < foks> Federer is just throwing away loads of break points 07:11 < foks> It's not like he's not playing well 07:11 < foks> 'cos he is 07:12 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:12 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:13 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:14 < Frood> Thanks, Theopolisme 07:14 < Theopolisme> For what? 07:14 < Theopolisme> Oh 07:14 < Theopolisme> Right 07:15 < Theopolisme> Short, Long, and Medium term Memory Loss 07:15 < Frood> foks: and [[User:Puffin eater]] please? 07:15 < Frood> already added to the SPI :P 07:16 -!- Theopolisme is now known as Theo|food 07:16 < Theo|food> back soon 07:17 < Qcoder02> Frood: Is there a Shame wall for ISP's haboruing known sockpuppets? 07:17 < Frood> Qcoder02: considering ISPs serve tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people... 07:18 < Frood> i'd venture to say that nearly every ISP in the world has its share of wikipedia socks 07:18 < Qcoder02> there is WP:LTA 07:18 < Qcoder02> but that doesn't list ISP's only specfic IP addresses 07:18 < foks> [[WP:DENY]] 07:18 < foks> so no 07:19 < Qcoder02> OK 07:19 < Qcoder02> Presumably the WMF keeps logs though? 07:19 < Qcoder02> And will share those logs with 'the authorities' if asked :) 07:19 < foks> goodness that game lasted forever 07:19 < Qcoder02> <evil grin> 07:19 < foks> 3-0 murray in the second set 07:19 < Frood> they wouldn't 07:19 < Frood> they only would if there's a court order 07:20 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:21 < Frood> or if there's a credible threat of violence 07:21 -!- Iamthemuffinman [02602d99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.96.45.153] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:21 -!- yutsi-mobile [~anonymous@c-98-221-123-199.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:22 < yutsi-mobile> hai guise 07:22 -!- yuvipand1 is now known as EmoPanda 07:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 15 hours remain 07:23 < Qcoder02> Frood: That's what I meant by asked 07:23 < Frood> a court order isn't asking 07:23 < yutsi-mobile> 15 hours until the rover? 07:23 < Qcoder02> I'm not expecting WMF to hand over things just cause some cop says ' Excuse me' 07:23 < Frood> it's exactly what it sounds like 07:23 < Frood> it's an order 07:23 < foks> Frood, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wikipedia_cabals_must_die 07:23 < foks> got 'im. 07:23 < foks> :3 07:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yutsi-mobile yup 07:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you can watch the simulation live 07:24 -!- Betacommand [~Betacomma@unaffiliated/betacommand] has quit [Disconnected by services] 07:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/WhereIsCuriosity.html 07:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> " Eyes on the Solar System 3-D interactive" 07:24 < yutsi-mobile> are they gonna show the landing live? 07:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they cant 07:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but there is a simulation 07:24 < Frood> foks: did he have any contribs? 07:25 < yutsi-mobile> ah 07:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it shows the phases of the landing till touchdown 07:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> aside from the last 10-12 minutes it shows the same flight 07:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but you can see how large mars gets 07:25 < foks> Frood, no 07:25 < Frood> ok 07:25 < foks> I got him off the new user log 07:25 < foks> I'm guessing he's the same guy like 07:26 -!- Theo|food is now known as Theopolisme 07:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mars looks like half the size of a penny already probably 07:26 < yutsi-mobile> foks: its probably Gromp 07:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the craft gained 100mph since yesterday 07:26 -!- koishi_ [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:26 < yutsi-mobile> or some GNAA troll; or a disgruntled user from rfa 07:26 < foks> yutsi-mobile, who 07:27 < foks> also, no 07:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it is expected to reach 13,000 mph before touching the atmospehere 07:27 < foks> it's someone who's not frood's biggest fan atm 07:27 < foks> also, 4-0 Murray 07:27 < foks> jeez 07:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no one is froods biggest fan 07:27 -!- Iamthemuffinman [02602d99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.96.45.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:27 < yutsi-mobile> foks: he's that infamous troll. JarlaxeArtemis or something is one of his names 07:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> JA is still around 07:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats a wow 07:28 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> talk about dedication 07:28 < yutsi-mobile> probably. i think he pays a premium for closed proxies 07:28 -!- QueenOfFrance [~snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:29 < yutsi-mobile> hundreds of socks 07:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm 07:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> we should have a wmf proxy for trolls >:D 07:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> we can cheat them out of their cash 07:30 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:31 -!- koishi_ [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 07:32 < yutsi-mobile> omg we know grawp's identity : https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/3/32/Jeremy_and_father.jpg 07:32 < foks> please don't link to that in here. 07:32 < yutsi-mobile> kk 07:32 < yutsi-mobile> redacting previous link 07:33 -!- EmoPanda [~yuvipanda@117.193.71.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:33 < Frood> yutsi-mobile: Why do you think that it's grawp doing this? 07:33 -!- Bencmq [8984fa0d@wikipedia/Bencmq] has left #wikipedia-en [] 07:33 < yutsi-mobile> frood: I was joking 07:33 < yutsi-mobile> its probs some disgruntled user 07:33 < Frood> of course it is 07:34 -!- yutsi-mobile [~anonymous@c-98-221-123-199.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:36 < Frood> woah woah woah 07:36 < Frood> what happened to BOP? 07:36 < Frood> She was blocked? 07:37 -!- D1000|Away is now known as Demiurge1000 07:37 < Demiurge1000> Indefinitely. 07:37 < foks> Who? 07:37 < Demiurge1000> Checkuser block. 07:37 < Demiurge1000> Basket of Puppies 07:37 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.182.137] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:37 -!- Monchoman45 [~monchoman@wikia/Monchoman45] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:37 < Frood> Demiurge1000: the funny thing is, that happened in 2010 07:37 -!- FloatingBoat [~Ashok@wikipedia/Floating-Boat] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:37 < Demiurge1000> History repeats itself? 07:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Demiurge1000 I think history is stuck on the same track 07:38 -!- Monchoman45 [~monchoman@pool-96-245-192-92.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:38 -!- Monchoman45 [~monchoman@pool-96-245-192-92.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:38 -!- Monchoman45 [~monchoman@wikia/Monchoman45] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:38 < foks> !checkuser 07:39 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:39 -!- yutsi-mobile [~anonymous@c-98-221-123-199.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:39 -!- yutsi-mobile [~anonymous@c-98-221-123-199.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:40 -!- yutsi [~yutsi@wikipedia/yutsi] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:41 < foks> Murray now two sets up 07:41 < foks> Barring a remarkable turn of form by Federer... 07:41 < foks> Also, Del Potro just won the bronze 07:41 < foks> Beating Djokovic! 07:42 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:42 -!- yutsi is now known as George_Bush 07:42 -!- George_Bush is now known as yutsi 07:43 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:45 < Frood> foks: StrangeWind too plz 07:46 < foks> d 07:47 < Frood> <3 07:47 < Frood> you're my new favorite admin 07:47 < Theopolisme> Haha, ikr 07:47 * Frood ^5s Theopolisme 07:47 < foks> 15:47, 5 August 2012 Foxj (Talk | contribs | block) blocked Too slow fox (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled) (Block evasion) 07:47 < foks> boom 07:48 < foks> nothing but net 07:49 < nickanc> foks that is evolution theory: the slowest fox fails. ;) 07:50 < foks> "{ 07:50 < foks> * :P 07:52 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:52 -!- Callanecc [kvirc@wikipedia/Callanecc] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:55 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.182.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:55 -!- FloatingBoat [~Ashok@wikipedia/Floating-Boat] has left #wikipedia-en [] 07:56 < Wehwalt> Frood: Did you still need help? Sorry, was afk 07:56 < Frood> Wehwalt: not anymore. 07:56 < foks> I think I got it 07:57 < Wehwalt> OK, take a raincheck for next time 07:57 -!- Flatworm [59f1e4c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.241.228.199] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:58 -!- ToAruShiroiNeko [EVA@wikimedia/ToAruShiroiNeko] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:04 -!- ToAruShiroiNeko [EVA@wikimedia/ToAruShiroiNeko] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:04 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:08 < Frood> This is what happens when I spend time in #cvn-wp-en. http://cl.ly/image/0P3x1Z1w0Z43 08:09 < Theopolisme> <nice> 08:12 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:12 * Isarra dances. 08:13 * Theopolisme sighs at the immaturity 08:13 < BarkingFish> afternoon guys - anyone here got any image licensing experience? I need to borrow someone to help me figure out how to stop one of my uploads getting deleted. I've tried to FUR it, and the fur tag provided by twinkle isn't bloody working. 08:13 < BarkingFish> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yealink-vp530-voip_phone.jpg 08:13 < BarkingFish> I know the image is copyrighted, that much is certain, I want to use it under FUR to illustrate a product which an article has been started for on enwp 08:14 < Isarra> Hrm... 08:14 < foks> Gold for GB! 08:14 < foks> Murray wins! 08:14 < BarkingFish> ffs. He beat Federer??? 08:14 < foks> Yes! 08:14 < mareklug> Scotland is proud 08:14 < BarkingFish> Why couldn't he do that at fucking wimbledon... 08:14 < foks> In straight sets! 08:14 < Theopolisme> ON AN ACE 08:15 < foks> he's away up the stands 08:15 < foks> for some reason 08:15 < foks> oh, to hug his girlfriend. 08:15 < Isarra> BarkingFish: I FOUND A TEMPLATE. 08:15 < mareklug> Federer played tired, it looked 08:15 < Isarra> But there should be two template, I think. 08:16 < foks> Federer was just bad 08:16 < foks> He had opportunities to break Murray, never took them 08:16 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:17 < BarkingFish> Isarra, brilliant. Link plox? 08:17 < mareklug> you know he has a chance to repeat with Robson in mixt 08:19 < Isarra> BarkingFish: I added it, but you need to link the article and maybe scale the thing down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yealink-vp530-voip_phone.jpg 08:19 -!- yutsi-mobile [~anonymous@228.sub-174-252-10.myvzw.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:19 < Frood> Theopolisme: I think he's given up for now. 08:19 -!- yutsi-mobile [~anonymous@228.sub-174-252-10.myvzw.com] has quit [Client Quit] 08:19 < Theopolisme> Who? 08:20 -!- yutsi-mobile [~anonymous@228.sub-174-252-10.myvzw.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:20 -!- MrFish2 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:20 < Frood> StrongDraught 08:20 * Isarra is so helpful. 08:20 * Isarra wanders off. 08:20 < yutsi-mobile> there, i finally got sssl working 08:20 < BarkingFish> Isarra, no need to scale it down, I did that before I uploaded it- all I gotta do is thumbnail it on the article :) 08:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 14 hours 08:20 < Isarra> Mmkay. 08:20 -!- Callanecc [kvirc@wikipedia/Callanecc] has quit [Quit: Callanecc has left, please leave a message on my Wikipedia talk page if you need to contact me.] 08:20 < foks> GB's first gold in tennis in over a century o.O 08:21 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:21 < yutsi-mobile> really? 08:21 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko: you'll be buttery disappointed if that thing rams into the surface on account of the rockets not working 08:21 < yutsi-mobile> i thought british ppl were good at tennis 08:21 < mareklug> bitterly 08:21 -!- MrFish2 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22 < foks> yutsi-mobile, unfortunately Nadal, Federer and Sampras aren't British :'( 08:22 < Frood> BarkingFish: no, she means that it's a policy to have it as small as possible while still being usable 08:22 < Frood> if it's just going to be a thumbnail, it should only be as big as you need it, and maaaaaybe just slightly larger 08:22 -!- Bsadowski1 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:23 < BarkingFish> ah, ok 08:23 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:24 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:24 < yutsi-mobile> i wonder if im the person in my church to go on irc b4 mass 08:24 -!- MrFish2 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:24 -!- MrFish2 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:24 < yutsi-mobile> must be another nerd somewhere 08:25 < yutsi-mobile> *the first person 08:25 -!- MrFish2 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:25 -!- MrFish2 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:25 -!- Guest41367 [~dabtd@68.255.2.59] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:25 < closedmouth> you're going to hell 08:26 < mareklug> yutsi: you wrote yesterday or so that you're a Hindu (albeit beef-eating) and now you confess catholicism? 08:26 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug indeed 08:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am very excited 08:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> few things excited tme this much in years 08:26 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko: me too, really 08:26 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:27 -!- yutsi-mobile [~anonymous@228.sub-174-252-10.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27 < Frood> mareklug: there's nothing stopping him from converting :P 08:28 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug I am watching it live through simulation 08:28 < mareklug> he sure did that fast 08:28 -!- Nascar1996 is now known as N1996|race 08:28 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:28 -!- Ottre [~ottre@wikipedia/Ottre] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:29 -!- DJMalik [b5b73d7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.181.183.61.126] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:29 -!- Ottre [~ottre@80.82.65.107] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:29 -!- Ottre [~ottre@80.82.65.107] has quit [Changing host] 08:29 -!- Ottre [~ottre@wikipedia/Ottre] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:29 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:31 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish : Hi 08:31 < BarkingFish> hi 08:31 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has quit [Client Quit] 08:32 < Qcoder02> PM please 08:32 < mareklug> "it has to be the greatest day in the history of British tennis". that's how you commentate when you don't win grand slams 08:33 < BarkingFish> nrn, Qcoder02 - busy trying to stop an article getting nuked 08:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug for the british it may still be the greatest 08:33 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish: OK 08:33 < Qcoder02> Which email address are you on at present? 08:33 -!- Theopolisme_ [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:34 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:34 -!- Theopolisme_ is now known as Theopolisme 08:35 < BarkingFish> slight change of plan, Qcoder02 - use my private address, not the public one I gave you last time 08:35 < Qcoder02> i don't have the private one :( 08:35 < BarkingFish> you do now 08:35 < Theopolisme> hehe 08:35 < Frood> I don't understand this weather. 08:35 < Frood> Two days ago it was 98 08:36 < Frood> well, 85 at this time 08:36 < Frood> but right now it's 66 08:36 -!- LL2|Android [~LL2@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 08:37 < mareklug> frood you should be ecstatic. it's 10 degrees hotter in Chicago 08:37 < Frood> mareklug: you're in Chicago? 08:37 < mareklug> yes 08:37 < Frood> :O 08:41 < Theopolisme> 86 in memphis 08:42 -!- Lcawte [lcawte@Wikimedia/Lcawte] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:44 -!- tommorris [u639@wikimedia/Tom-Morris] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:44 -!- tommorris [u639@wikimedia/Tom-Morris] has left #wikipedia-en [] 08:45 -!- tommorris [u639@wikimedia/Tom-Morris] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:45 -!- dungodung|away [~felix@wikimedia/dungodung] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:45 -!- tommorris [u639@wikimedia/Tom-Morris] has left #wikipedia-en [] 08:45 -!- TeeTylerToe [~terrafirm@pool-173-66-178-25.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:45 -!- dungodung|away [~felix@wikimedia/dungodung] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:49 < Theopolisme> Do you guys have any idea why the main page had such a spike in traffic recently? http://stats.grok.se/en/latest90/Main%20Page 08:50 < Theopolisme> Electric_Catfish: also, how did dan respond to the email ???? 08:51 < Theopolisme> Oopsies! 08:51 < Theopolisme> Wrong IRC 08:51 < Theopolisme> <blush> 08:54 -!- Demiurge1000 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Demiurge1000] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 08:55 -!- Anto|away is now known as Antonorsi 08:56 -!- DeltaQuad [~quassel@wikipedia/DeltaQuad] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:56 -!- Mrmatiko [~Mrmatiko@wikipedia/Mrmatiko] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:56 -!- Snowolf [~snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:57 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@c-24-143-67-45.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:57 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@c-24-143-67-45.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Changing host] 08:57 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:57 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:57 < Frood> [[User:Adamin123]] is this appropriate? 08:57 -!- DJMalik [b5b73d7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.181.183.61.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:58 < Frood> at first glance it looks like "admin", but it's not 08:58 -!- Snowolf [~snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:58 < BarkingFish> ok, i'm gonna skip off for a bit. we have the mother of all thunderstorms overhead, very heavy thunder and lightning, and I ain't risking any of my kit. See ya in a while, or when this passes over, whichever comes sooner 08:58 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has quit [Quit: I used to be a werewolf, but I'm alright nooooOOOOOOOOWWWWWW! :)] 08:59 -!- WilliamH_UK [~WilliamH_@Wikipedia/WilliamH] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:00 -!- QueenOfFrance [~snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:00 -!- Snowolf_ [~snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:00 -!- stwalkerster [~stwalkers@pdpc/supporter/student/stwalkerster] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:00 -!- phuzion [~phuzion@208.43.144.61-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:01 < mareklug> frood i think we don't police for dyslexia. it could be innocent Adam in 123 09:02 -!- benzband [5c857978@wikipedia/benzband] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:02 -!- Snowolf_ [~snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02 -!- Snowolf [~snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:02 -!- phuzion [~phuzion@208.43.144.61] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:02 < foks> "Adamin" is also a name, iirc 09:02 < foks> It sounds Russian 09:02 -!- QueenOfFrance [~snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:02 < Frood> oh 09:03 -!- Snowolf [~snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:03 -!- DeltaQuad_ [~quassel@wikipedia/DeltaQuad] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:03 -!- DeltaQuad [~quassel@wikipedia/DeltaQuad] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks it sounds arabic to me 09:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> an arabic russian maybe? 09:05 < mareklug> i found some Turkish content with that string 09:05 < mareklug> but no Russian 09:06 < foks> oh. 09:06 < mareklug> there's also this: http://www.amazon.com/Adamin-Rise-Dark-Series-ebook/dp/B008C4B64U 09:06 < foks> my bad 09:07 -!- Lcawte|Away [lcawte@Wikimedia/Lcawte] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:07 -!- stwalkerster [~stwalkers@pdpc/supporter/student/stwalkerster] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:08 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:08 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:09 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:12 -!- varnent [~varnent@wikimedia/varnent] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:14 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:15 -!- Flatworm [59f1e4c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.241.228.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:17 -!- Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte 09:20 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@wikimedia/Nickanc] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 09:21 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has quit [Quit: Urgent? Message me: http://enwp.org/User_talk:Theopolisme] 09:26 < mareklug> American woman is currently first in snatch (75+ kg) 09:26 -!- benzband [5c857978@wikipedia/benzband] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:28 -!- Demiurge1000 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Demiurge1000] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:28 < TeeTylerToe> I jinxed federer 09:30 < mareklug> i think Del Potro tiring him out in the semis had more to do with it 09:30 < mareklug> that long third set 09:30 < foks> He had a whole day to recover. 09:30 < foks> :P 09:31 < foks> Federer should really be used to having to recover quickly from long games. 09:31 < mareklug> indeed. usually he hs two 09:31 < Peter-C> Weird question: When I fix an article from being a redirect to being a real article, can I count it as "creating" the article? 09:31 -!- N1996|race is now known as Nascar1996 09:31 < foks> What, for the Four Award thing>? 09:31 < foks> Or for DYK? 09:32 < Qcoder02> https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/youtube/feedback--suggestions/Wd5VxNC9po8 09:32 < Peter-C> Personally on a "articles I created page" 09:32 < Peter-C> And DYK too I guess 09:32 < foks> Then yeah, I think it would count 09:32 < ragesoss> Peter-C: yes. 09:32 < mareklug> Peter-C: technically, it won't be in the list of articles you create 09:33 < ragesoss> especially because now your edits are at the beginning of the history. 09:33 < ragesoss> there's no denying that you created it. 09:33 < mareklug> from the point of view of the tool server tool 09:33 < Peter-C> :3 09:33 < Qcoder02> Afternoon 09:42 -!- Flatworm [59f1e4c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.241.228.199] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:42 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.] 09:45 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has quit [Quit: Changing Computers] 09:45 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@wikimedia/Chenzw] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:47 -!- TBloemink is now known as TB|Away 09:47 < yutsi> marklug: I'm not a Hindu. I'm a Humanist who grew up Catholic and is primarily involved in the youth group at my church; I go to mass to humor my mom. 09:48 -!- Barras [barras@wikimedia/barras] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 09:48 -!- Barras [barras@217.172.33.15] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:48 < mareklug> i was quoting what you said during the beef eating discussion, yutsi 09:48 < yutsi> You're thinking of someone else 09:48 -!- Barras is now known as Guest57845 09:49 < yutsi> I love eating dead cows. In fact, I'm grilling up hamburgers tonight. 0_0 09:49 < mareklug> now i am going to search my history 09:49 < yutsi> lol 09:49 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has quit [Quit: GabrielF] 09:50 -!- dungodung|away [~felix@wikimedia/dungodung] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:51 < mareklug> it does not go that far, and i keep no logs 09:52 -!- DeltaQuad_ is now known as DeltaQuad 09:52 -!- dungodung|away [~felix@wikimedia/dungodung] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:53 -!- Chip123456 [56a44c31@wikipedia/Chip123456] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:53 -!- Guest57845 [barras@217.172.33.15] has left #wikipedia-en [] 09:53 -!- liberaldudette [~mark@74.63.233.124] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54 -!- Barras [barras@wikimedia/barras] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:54 < Chip123456> If any willing admins could take a look at the [[WP:RPP]] backlog, it would be appreciates ;) 09:55 < Chip123456> *appreciated 09:55 -!- Chip123456 [56a44c31@wikipedia/Chip123456] has left #wikipedia-en [] 09:56 -!- liberaldudette [~mark@74.63.233.124] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:59 -!- EmoPanda [~yuvipanda@112.79.40.90] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:09 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:09 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has quit [Client Quit] 10:09 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@c-107-4-182-55.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:09 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@c-107-4-182-55.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:09 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:11 -!- Topher385 [629dc974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.157.201.116] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:11 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@c-24-143-67-45.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:11 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@c-24-143-67-45.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:11 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:12 -!- IShadowed__ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:12 -!- lubmil [~lubmil@89-67-33-69.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:13 -!- petan|wk [~pidgeon@wikimedia/Petrb] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:14 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:14 < Justin_Bieber> Aw hell no: http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/08/05/163239/meat-the-food-of-the-future 10:14 -!- addshore [~addshore@188-220-255-211.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:14 -!- addshore [~addshore@188-220-255-211.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Changing host] 10:14 -!- addshore [~addshore@wikipedia/addshore] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:15 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has quit [Quit: zZzzZzzZzz!] 10:15 < Topher385> Not a fan of eating bugs? 10:15 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [] 10:16 < petan|wk> hey addshore :D 10:16 < addshore> evening :) 10:16 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:20 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@pool-71-126-34-32.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:20 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@pool-71-126-34-32.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:20 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:20 < Peter-C> WHOO! 10:20 < Peter-C> My doctor says I'm the illest! 10:20 < Peter-C> That's good, right? 10:21 < TeeTylerToe> you be illin like a villain? 10:22 -!- IShadowed__ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:22 < mysterytrey> Did he prescibe you a daily dose of Wikipedia? 10:24 < Peter-C> totes 10:25 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:26 < yutsi> Anyone here in Hawaiian, Alaskan, or Atlantic time zones? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Highly_Active_Users/North_America 10:26 < foks> Whoa, people still use HAU? 10:26 < yutsi> i just listed myself -.- 10:27 < yutsi> I saw it on a Wikipedia ad on my userpage 10:27 < mysterytrey> Hmmm... yutsi, what clent do you use? 10:28 < mysterytrey> Nevermind, I'll just do a version check. 10:28 < yutsi> for IRC? HexChat 10:28 < yutsi> It's a fork of XChat 10:28 < mysterytrey> I did it anyway. Just to annoy you. :P 10:28 < yutsi> lol 10:28 < yutsi> IMMA BEING HAX0RED 10:28 < mysterytrey> Ooh. Windows 7. 10:28 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has quit [Quit: Connection savagely beaten to death by peer] 10:29 < mysterytrey> When fox joins again, I'm to to version check him. 10:29 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has quit [Quit: GabrielF] 10:29 < yutsi> how'd you see my OS? 10:29 < mysterytrey> It told me. 10:29 -!- Apheori [~dirien@174-29-156-199.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:29 -!- Apheori [~dirien@174-29-156-199.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:29 -!- Apheori [~dirien@wikimedia/Isarra] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:29 < yutsi> it didn't tell me yours 10:29 < mysterytrey> Haha. 10:29 < mysterytrey> Received CTCP-VERSION answer from yutsi: HexChat 2.9.1 [x64] / Windows 7 [2.19GHz] 10:30 < yutsi> I think my processor has more GHz than that... 10:30 < mysterytrey> Must be that your client wants to also put your OS on there too. 10:30 < yutsi> VERSION Quassel IRC v0.8.0 (dist-5988f4c) (built on Mar 21 2012 17:23:50) -- http://www.quassel-irc.org 10:30 < mysterytrey> Haha. 10:30 < mysterytrey> I'm gonna go ping half the channel. 10:31 < yutsi> Oh, I have a 2.20GHz i7 10:31 < mysterytrey> Very small difference. 10:31 < yutsi> didnt do anything 10:32 < yutsi> lol i fingered you 10:33 < yutsi> 0.0 10:33 < mysterytrey> What? 10:34 < mysterytrey> Cool you. No lag. 10:35 < yutsi> Ping reply from mysterytrey: 2289.72 second(s) 10:35 < mysterytrey> That did nothing new. You just pinged me thrice. 10:35 < mysterytrey> Seriously. 10:35 < mysterytrey> ??? 10:35 < mysterytrey> I pinged myself... 3 seconds round trip. 10:36 < yutsi> Wow, you're lagging 10:36 < mysterytrey> IKR? 10:36 < yutsi> I think your CTCP replies are glitched; it keeps on saying 2000 and something seconds 10:36 < mysterytrey> Wait, ctcp-finger? 10:36 < yutsi> finger didn't work on you 10:36 < mysterytrey> Ahh cool. 10:38 -!- DeltaQuad [~quassel@wikipedia/DeltaQuad] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 10:39 < mysterytrey> Go Quassel! 10:41 < Apheori> I love how everything I have anywhere gets logged out of wikimedia projects when I log out with one. 10:41 < Apheori> It's so much fun to have to re-log in with everything. 10:42 < Apheori> Especially when I didn't mean to log out at all. 10:42 < mareklug> that also happens if you log in somewhere say in another browser 10:42 < Krenair> I hate having to sign in individually to each project 10:43 < Brooke> mareklug: No it doesn't. 10:43 < mysterytrey> Isn't there something in preferences that auto-logs you in on each project? 10:43 < Apheori> mareklug: No it doesn't. 10:43 < mareklug> it happens to me, Brooke. not always. 10:43 < Krenair> mareklug: No it doesn't. 10:43 < mysterytrey> Brooke: It does for me. 10:44 < mysterytrey> Alpheori: It does for me. 10:44 < Brooke> mysterytrey, mareklug: Sounds like something is broken on your end, then. 10:44 < mysterytrey> Krenair: It does for me. 10:44 < Brooke> When you log in with a different browser, it shouldn't affect your current session in another browser. 10:44 < Brooke> Now, if you log out, it will invalidate your session everywhere. 10:44 < Apheori> Which is irritating. 10:44 < Brooke> That's a feature, not a bug, allegedly. 10:44 < mareklug> Brooke I highly doubt it. for instance, i can log in in iPod touch safari and find myself logged out next on the iMac opera 10:45 < mysterytrey> It's probably Opera. I can't do anything Wikipedia-wise in Opera if I also have Safari open. 10:45 -!- FastLizard4|zZzZ is now known as FastLizard4 10:45 < Apheori> How is that a feature? I appreciate that it's intentional, but why? 10:45 < Apheori> I often use both opera and safari at the same time. 10:45 < Brooke> Apheori: So that you don't have uncontrolled sessions, I guess. 10:45 < Brooke> Opera is the worst. 10:45 < mysterytrey> Brooke: Lies! 10:45 < EmoPanda> ragesoss: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8768784/WPSignpost.apk is an alpha. Needs one more feature (archives) before I can call it beta :) 10:45 < Apheori> So why not just have a thing specifically to log out of all? 10:46 < mysterytrey> Opera is awesome. 10:46 -!- EmoPanda is now known as YuviPanda 10:46 < YuviPanda> ragesoss: and source at https://github.com/yuvipanda/WPSignpost 10:48 -!- Flatworm [59f1e4c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.241.228.199] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:49 -!- Shirik [~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:49 < mareklug> in men's team foil the American wounded the German so much so he had to be helped off and substituted for 10:50 -!- Shirik|Ghost [~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:51 -!- Nascar1996 is now known as N1996|race 10:52 -!- Roscoe_ [~incant@210-59-192-150.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:52 * Justin_Bieber licks addshore 10:52 -!- Justin_Bieber is now known as The_Thing 10:52 * addshore is worried 10:55 < TB|Away> o.O 10:57 -!- Demiurge1000 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Demiurge1000] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 10:58 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:59 -!- Fluff|sleep is now known as Fluffernutter 11:00 < IRWolfie-> raining really heavy here 11:00 < Jeske_Merensky> Guess he still remembers WW2 11:00 < IRWolfie-> There's something nice about being inside when it's raining heavily 11:01 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:03 -!- Anna_Frodesiak [Anna_Frode@113.58.223.34] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:03 -!- Anna_Frodesiak [Anna_Frode@113.58.223.34] has quit [Changing host] 11:03 -!- Anna_Frodesiak [Anna_Frode@wikipedia/Anna-Frodesiak] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:03 -!- Anna_Frodesiak [Anna_Frode@wikipedia/Anna-Frodesiak] has left #wikipedia-en [] 11:04 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ItzExor, flail 11:04 -!- Jasper_Deng_away [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:04 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:05 < TB|Away> Such a small split. 11:05 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:05 -!- Ottre [~ottre@wikipedia/Ottre] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:05 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:07 -!- Ironholds [~f@wikipedia/Ironholds] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:08 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:09 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:10 -!- rr0 [kvirc@wikipedia/ruslik0] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ItzExor, flail 11:10 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: Eek! 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Link 11:53 < Mdann52> !link,ail 11:53 -!- andrewcrawford [~andrewcra@cpc3-cast8-2-0-cust294.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:54 -!- seiyuuEva [~IceChat9@85-220-14-185.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:54 < froodonwheels> [[User:iamthemuffinman]] 11:54 < seiyuuEva> hii 11:54 < Mdann52> !link 11:54 -!- andrewcrawford [~andrewcra@cpc3-cast8-2-0-cust294.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:54 < froodonwheels> Hello 11:54 < seiyuuEva> how r u 11:54 < seiyuuEva> :) 11:54 < Mdann52> It didn't work in here :( 11:54 < froodonwheels> Wonderful. 11:55 < seiyuuEva> cool 11:55 < seiyuuEva> ;) 11:55 < Fluffernutter> we don't allow talking bots in here, Mdann52 11:55 -!- DoRD [~DoRD@wikipedia/Department-of-Redundancy-Department] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:55 < Iamthemuffinman> the community has refused me the right to be a constructive and good editor as I have been, so I want all of my contributions nuked and my userspaces deleted please 11:55 < mareklug> bolt only won in 9.87 11:55 < froodonwheels> That legally cannot happen. 11:55 -!- Ottre [~ottre@wikipedia/Ottre] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:55 < seiyuuEva> hmm 11:56 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:56 < Mdann52> I'm not a bot though 11:56 < froodonwheels> The license is irrevocable. 11:57 -!- Ottre [~ottre@80.82.65.107] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:57 -!- Ottre [~ottre@80.82.65.107] has quit [Changing host] 11:57 -!- Ottre [~ottre@wikipedia/Ottre] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:57 < Jasper_Deng> Iamthemuffinman: your block is temporary 11:57 < Jasper_Deng> wait it out 11:57 < Iamthemuffinman> no 11:57 < Iamthemuffinman> I don't see why I should 11:57 < Iamthemuffinman> and I'm not going to skirt around it either 11:58 < Mdann52> Flutternutter, oh, you mean helpme don't you 11:58 < Fluffernutter> Mdann52, I mean any bot that would respond to you when you said "!link" 11:58 < Mdann52> Ash, ok 11:58 -!- froodphone^2 [~Frood@68-24-131-121.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:58 -!- froodonwheels [~Frood@68-24-131-77.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59 < Iamthemuffinman> Not interested in waiting it out. If I cannot edit now then I have no intention of editing in the future 11:59 < Jarry1250> froodonwheels: It's not illegal to remove it, it's just legal to keep it. 11:59 < Fluffernutter> Iamthemuffinman, that's fine, you're perfectly allowed to walk away from Wikipedia. However, you can't take your contributions with you. 11:59 < Jarry1250> It's the community's choice whether or not to honour Iamthemuffinman's request to revert his edits. 12:00 < Iamthemuffinman> I made those edits for the good of the community and wikipedia. Now the community and wikipedia has made it perfectly clear that they do not want me as a part of it, I am struggling to find a reason why I should allow my edits to remain on it 12:00 -!- DoRD is now known as DoRD|away 12:01 < IRWolfie-> Iamthemuffinman: the block is only for a period of one week, and is with the hope that you do come back after the week 12:01 -!- Earwig [~earwig@wikipedia/The-Earwig] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:01 < Iamthemuffinman> bollocks 12:01 < Iamthemuffinman> You don't want me back 12:01 -!- Earwig [~earwig@wikipedia/The-Earwig] has left #wikipedia-en [] 12:02 < Iamthemuffinman> you declined two reasonable unblock requests 12:02 < Iamthemuffinman> despite me having a record of living up to my word 12:02 < Jarry1250> Iamthemuffinman: It's not your call whether "your" contribution are kept or not. Requests to remove content work better if you just ask. 12:02 < Iamthemuffinman> and I have asked 12:03 < Jarry1250> *here* is not a good place to ask, tbh 12:03 -!- mys_721tx [~mys_721tx@wikipedia/mys-721tx] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:03 < Jarry1250> In fact, you'd do better to wait out your block, then revert yourself. 12:04 -!- froodphone^2 [~Frood@68-24-131-121.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:05 < Iamthemuffinman> There was absolutely no reason for my talkpage rights to be revoked either 12:05 < Iamthemuffinman> none whatsoever 12:05 < IRWolfie-> Iamthemuffinman: Boing was doing you a favour by doing it 12:05 < Iamthemuffinman> my ass it was a favour 12:05 < Iamthemuffinman> I want at the very, very least to be able to post on my talkpage 12:06 < Jasper_Deng> Iamthemuffinman: you must agree that things like your comment ("HAHAHAHAHA I COULD HAVE SEEN THAT COMING A MILE AWAY. ") won't recur 12:06 < Jasper_Deng> otherwise I don't see why an admin should reallow talk page access 12:07 < IRWolfie-> Iamthemuffinman: think on it for a few days, let things cool down 12:07 < Iamthemuffinman> Absolutely not 12:07 < Iamthemuffinman> I will not be thinking on it 12:07 < PeterSymonds> Then don't. 12:08 < Jasper_Deng> Wikipedia isn't for everyone 12:08 < Iamthemuffinman> Jasper I fully agree to that, I have no intention of disrupting wikipedia 12:08 < Jasper_Deng> Unfortunately sometimes even if you don't intend to disrupt, you do - I've learned that myself multiple times. 12:08 < Jasper_Deng> You just have to sit on your hands, sometimes. 12:08 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:09 < Iamthemuffinman> I just find it completely unfair that an admin is allowed to gravedance me and get away with it 12:09 < Jasper_Deng> Admins are human 12:09 < Jasper_Deng> WP:AGF is a fundamental principle - admins were once normal editors too 12:10 -!- schiste [~schiste@48.187.93.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:10 -!- schiste [~schiste@48.187.93.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Changing host] 12:10 -!- schiste [~schiste@wikimedia/schiste] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:10 < IRWolfie-> Iamthemuffinman: His response is not what I would have done, but it was obvious when you posted that it was going to boomerang 12:11 < Iamthemuffinman> because of course I can see the future but it was a good faith complaint 12:11 < Jasper_Deng> any good faith comments didn't need all-caps 12:11 < Jasper_Deng> which to us appears as shouting 12:12 < IRWolfie-> Iamthemuffinman: you posted on his page with "Such a shame you feel the need to remove valid tags.", when he responded in detail you replied with "whatever", "Thankfully I can easily disregard your opinion for something more worthy of my time", and you reverted his edits on your page calling him a fucknuckle, 12:13 < Iamthemuffinman> and for that I apologised 12:13 < Iamthemuffinman> unreservedly in the unblock request 12:13 < PeterSymonds> That makes it okay then. 12:13 < Jasper_Deng> an apology is good 12:13 < Jasper_Deng> but not enough 12:13 < Iamthemuffinman> of course it doesn't make it ok 12:14 < IRWolfie-> Iamthemuffinman: you were blocked just three days previously for a separate serious personal attack 12:14 < Iamthemuffinman> it doesn't take away from the fact that the comment I made was totally unnacceptable 12:14 < Jasper_Deng> Civility is 1 of 5 Wikipedia pillars 12:14 < Iamthemuffinman> 24 hours actually but that was to do with an ongoing dispute 12:14 < Jasper_Deng> so we take these things more seriously than most other sites 12:14 < IRWolfie-> Iamthemuffinman: editors don't engage in personal attacks no matter if there is a dispute 12:15 < Jasper_Deng> Two wrongs do not a right make 12:15 < IRWolfie-> even if someone throws personal attacks at you, just shrug them off 12:15 < Jasper_Deng> If you fire back it only gives fodder to the other side 12:16 < IRWolfie-> Andy also got blocked for responding to your own personal attacks; personal attacks are never justified 12:16 < IRWolfie-> *responding with his own that is 12:17 < Jasper_Deng> If you don't fire back, you show whomever is doing it that they are not worthy of your time 12:17 < Jasper_Deng> hence discouraging further attacks 12:17 -!- quanticle|away is now known as quanticle 12:17 < Iamthemuffinman> I did that, many times with him 12:17 < IRWolfie-> can an admin have a look here, an ip is posting a large list of w hich is a potential BLP violation: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cold_fusion&curid=363032&diff=505935418&oldid=505921615 12:18 < Jasper_Deng> Personal attacks 12:18 < Jasper_Deng> BLP takes precedence over talk page guidelines 12:18 < Jasper_Deng> Iamthemuffinman: no you didn't, you made your own personal attacks, even if not directly at Andy 12:19 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@wikimedia/Logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:20 < Iamthemuffinman> actually yes I did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_assistance/archive120#AndyTheGrump.27s_accusations have a look at some of his comments towards me on this wikiquette alert 12:20 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip72-193-246-5.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:20 < Jasper_Deng> but nothing justifies your own attacks 12:21 < The_Thing> Why are they calling the Mars rover landing the 7 minutes of terror? 12:21 < The_Thing> It isn't 7 minutes 12:21 -!- Mrmatiko [~Mrmatiko@wikipedia/Mrmatiko] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:21 < The_Thing> It's more like 21 minutes 12:22 < mareklug> i guess they ain't scared of the other 14 12:22 < The_Thing> Because from the actual start of the entry, to when they get the signal that it's landed, is actually 21 minutes and shit... so it REALLY should be the 21 minutes of terror :p 12:24 -!- jc39 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:24 < jc39> hello - though I know one of them personally, and have convinced them to stop, can you block both of them anyway? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Belle_Grove&action=history 16RR is over the top. 12:25 < IRWolfie-> I've brought it to ANI 12:25 < jc39> oh, it seems James has done it already. 12:25 < jc39> Thanks. 12:25 < Iamthemuffinman> 16RR? 12:25 < IRWolfie-> err different incident I'm referring to jc39 12:25 < Iamthemuffinman> how bloody fast are they clicking? 12:25 < jc39> very, obviously 12:25 < JasonDC> Can someone assist in this edit war... 12:26 < Jasper_Deng> I think the blocks should be straight-up 48 hours for that 12:26 < JasonDC> assist as in stop it... 12:26 < jc39> both blocked by JamesBWatson already... 12:26 < jc39> (I know Phan Ni Mai) 12:26 < JasonDC> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christopher_Marshal&action=history 12:26 < jc39> they're a nice but...persistent...person. 12:27 < jc39> Happy edit war day, y'all! :p 12:27 < jc39> Jasper_Deng: I want to know how calling someone a 'copycat' is a severe personal attack. 12:27 < jc39> Since it isn't. 12:27 < Jasper_Deng> jc39: it's not 12:28 < Jasper_Deng> but it's obviously not helping, right? 12:28 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@pool-68-238-48-51.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:28 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@pool-68-238-48-51.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Changing host] 12:28 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:28 < jc39> guess so 12:28 -!- TB|Away is now known as TBloemink 12:28 < Iamthemuffinman> anything is a severe personal attack these days 12:28 < jc39> I'm still lol'ing at that edit war 12:28 -!- shimgray [~andrew@host86-170-65-214.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:28 -!- shimgray [~andrew@host86-170-65-214.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 12:28 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:28 -!- Mdann52 is now known as Mdann52|away 12:29 * The_Thing spouts a severe personal attack. 12:29 < The_Thing> In Japanese. 12:29 < The_Thing> BAKAYARO!! 12:29 < jc39> Bakuroyokoyama isn't profane... 12:29 < Jasper_Deng> more than half of both editors' edits are engagement in that edit war.... 12:29 < jc39> o 12:29 < JasonDC> Mep; thanks but it seems someone dosnt speak Eng. 12:30 < jc39> interesting thing: both editors have 10 edits to articles and become inactive 12:30 < Iamthemuffinman> the standard 3rr block is 24 hours, considering this is a 16rr edit war works out at a 120 hour block each as 3/16 = 5 3rrs 12:30 < jc39> but for Madifrop, they made one edit a few hours ago 12:31 < jc39> "copycat" might explain it, as Phan registered before frop. 12:31 < jc39> idc 12:31 < Jasper_Deng> 128 hours, actually 12:31 < Jasper_Deng> but the length usually is not exactly proportional 12:31 < Jasper_Deng> to reverts 12:31 < Iamthemuffinman> discount them the 8 because I haven't laughed this hard for a while 12:32 < jc39> hm, I'm going to email Phan again 12:33 < jc39> and ask about who Madi is. 12:33 -!- jc39 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has quit [Quit: email] 12:33 -!- Mdann52|away is now known as Mdann52 12:33 < Iamthemuffinman> You need to see just what they were edit warring over. When you see how frivolous it is,... --- Log opened Sun Aug 05 14:07:52 2012 14:07 -!- xerofox [~xerofox@198.144.190.20] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:07 -!- Irssi: #wikipedia-en: Total of 191 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 190 normal] 14:07 -!- Irssi: Join to #wikipedia-en was synced in 2 secs 14:08 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:08 -!- Mdann52_temp is now known as Mdann52 14:08 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-10-39.dab.02.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:08 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:11 -!- jc37 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:11 < jc37> Phan has told me he was messing around "immaturely" 14:11 < jc37> - plz block & tag, thanks 14:11 < jc37> (Phan Ni Mai and madifrop) 14:11 -!- jc37 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has quit [Client Quit] 14:11 -!- mk1 [5c079c79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.7.156.121] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:12 -!- TB|Away is now known as TBloemink 14:12 * Mdann52 falls asleep 14:12 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has left #wikipedia-en ["AndroIRC"] 14:13 < mareklug> USA at the end of the day 1 medal behind China, incl. 1 less gold. 14:14 < mareklug> 2 less golds actually 14:16 < foks> *fewer 14:16 * foks smites mareklug 14:16 -!- IH|away is now known as Ironholds 14:16 < mareklug> fewer 14:16 < IRWolfie-> sounds like my SPI hunch was right :D 14:17 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has quit [Quit: While there's life, there's hope.] 14:17 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:18 < mareklug> foks with all the alleged newfangled mac memory and app termination management, I still have to quit out of web browsers, particularly safari 6, every so often, to release bloat 14:19 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:21 < foks> mareklug, I don't use Safari at all, so 14:23 -!- quanticle is now known as quanticle|away 14:25 < Ironholds> morning, Steven_Zhang 14:26 < Ironholds> crap, that reminds me. Flying in 48 hours. should put wash on. 14:26 -!- flyingclimber [~flyingcli@c-50-131-56-87.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:26 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:26 < Steven_Zhang> Howdy 14:26 < SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: Hi 14:26 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:27 < IRWolfie-> o/ 14:28 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:28 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 14:29 -!- diegogrez [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29 -!- diegogrez [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:29 -!- versa_gone [~Versageek@wikimedia/Versageek] has left #wikipedia-en ["Leaving"] 14:31 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip72-193-246-5.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 14:31 -!- boogieGBU [~blazer@197.15.60.17] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:32 -!- boogieGBU [~blazer@197.15.60.17] has quit [Client Quit] 14:32 < kaen> that feeling when you run out of coffins. 14:33 < kaen> oh wow wrong channel sorry 14:33 -!- IShadowed__ [~IShadowed@pool-96-240-145-90.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:33 -!- IShadowed__ [~IShadowed@pool-96-240-145-90.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:33 -!- IShadowed__ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:34 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:34 -!- diegogrez [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:34 < Steven_Zhang> Yo 14:34 < Theopolisme> Yoyo 14:35 -!- foks [~sup@host-78-146-180-76.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:35 -!- foks [~sup@host-78-146-180-76.as13285.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:35 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:36 < SigmaWP> Does anyone here have a launchpad account 14:36 < Isarra> Sunlight really burns this time of year. 14:39 < JasonDC> SigmaWP, i think i have one 14:40 < SigmaWP> JasonDC: Can you log in and tell me the email for https://launchpad.net/~ct-gocept 14:42 -!- Iamthemuffinman [02602d99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.96.45.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:43 -!- Cassie [~dan@wikipedia/deskana] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:43 -!- mk1 [5c079c79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.7.156.121] has left #wikipedia-en [] 14:44 < Ironholds> Isarra: indubitably 14:44 < Isarra> Ironholds: Vampire. 14:44 < Ironholds> that I am 14:44 < Ironholds> I'm allergic to sunlight; sunlight and polystyrene 14:45 < JasonDC> SigmaWP, it appears i dont have one, sorry 14:45 < SigmaWP> Aww 14:45 < SigmaWP> Oh 14:45 < SigmaWP> Wow, that was easy 14:46 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@87-95-10-20.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Beams.] 14:48 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-4-9.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:49 -!- Jasper_Deng [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49 < IRWolfie-> Steven_Zhang: wanted to ask you about the DR survey 14:49 < TBloemink> Lol @ Nitro circus 14:49 < Steven_Zhang> Sure. 14:49 < TBloemink> They just jumped off the Palms in LV 14:50 < IRWolfie-> Steven_Zhang: in the survey, people were able to rate their experience with a form of DR even if they hadn't participated before? 14:50 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-1-62.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:50 < Steven_Zhang> It was an optional question. 14:51 < Steven_Zhang> The percentages were adjusted accordingly 14:51 -!- Jasper_Deng [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:51 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-14-157.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:51 < Ironholds> IRWolfie-: also, more importantly, people were only invited to participate in the survey if they had participated in DR :) 14:53 < Steven_Zhang> Ja 14:53 -!- diegogrez [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:54 -!- tonynoname3 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-25-62.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:54 -!- tonynoname3 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-25-62.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:54 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-4-9.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:54 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-25-62.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:54 < IRWolfie-> Ironholds: yes but I mean the survey allowed people to say if they had been involved before or not, but were people who had rated a board but who had never participated discounted? 14:54 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-25-62.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:55 < Steven_Zhang> No. 14:55 < Ironholds> in that board? no 14:56 < Steven_Zhang> It's their perception that counts too. 14:56 < Ironholds> agreed 14:56 -!- N1996|race [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has quit [Quit: zZzzZzzZzz!] 14:56 < Ironholds> if people think [venue] sucks, participating or not, they will not go there, and that board is a waste of time 14:56 -!- FastLizard4|away is now known as FastLizard4 14:56 < IRWolfie-> ok I was wondering about that 14:56 < Steven_Zhang> How effective you feel X is at resolving disputed 14:56 -!- ceradon [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:56 < Steven_Zhang> Indeed. ^ 14:57 < Steven_Zhang> It seems that everyone except one guy think WQA sucks 14:57 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-14-157.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:57 < Steven_Zhang> But that one guy will fight tooth and nail to keep it open. 14:57 < IRWolfie-> Steven_Zhang: a few others agree too 14:57 < Steven_Zhang> That WQA is good or that WQa sucks? 14:58 < IRWolfie-> That WQA should stay open 14:58 < TBloemink> They're jumping from Palms hotel rooms now. 14:58 < Fluffernutter> WQA should be nuked from orbit 14:58 < Steven_Zhang> IRWolfie-: Why? 14:58 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-2-197.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:58 < Steven_Zhang> What does it actually achieve. 14:59 < IRWolfie-> sometimes issues get resolved, people get to air their grievances 14:59 -!- Theopolisme is now known as Theo|dinner 14:59 < IRWolfie-> It's more effective when it's newbie editors 14:59 < Fluffernutter> i have literally never come across a case where people left WQA satisfied and feeling like the interpersonal dispute was settled. 14:59 < Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: I would consider WQA outside your remit. 15:00 < IRWolfie-> when there's a reasonable chance to resolve something, sometimes sections go stale 15:00 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:00 < Ironholds> it's nothing to do with content dispute resolution, it's user conduct 15:00 < Steven_Zhang> Ironholds: Its DR, innit? 15:00 < Ironholds> if you want to take that on you are welcome to 15:00 < Ironholds> but it will lead to people asking a question 15:00 < Ironholds> y'know what that question is? 15:00 < Ironholds> "when are you reforming arbcom, mister user conduct?" 15:00 < Steven_Zhang> Lol 15:01 < Steven_Zhang> That was already asked. 15:01 < Ironholds> well then clearly the BEST thing to do is make it a valid question again 15:01 -!- schiste_ [~schiste@48.187.93.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:01 < yutsi> Peter-C: Did you create another article yet? 15:01 < Peter-C> Working on it, brb 15:01 < IRWolfie-> if you read through some of the WQA threads, they usaully are ok 15:02 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: to be fair, I've never seen anyone leave ANI or arbcom feeling that way either 15:02 -!- WhiskerBiscuit [~WhiskerBi@c-69-143-18-31.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:02 < WhiskerBiscuit> .. 15:02 < Ironholds> although arbcom at least bans them and so stops them complaining that they feel unsatisfied 15:02 < IRWolfie-> sometimes people forget they are on WQA not ANI 15:02 < Fluffernutter> Ironholds: the solution is clear: bans for everyone! 15:02 -!- diegogrez [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:02 < WhiskerBiscuit> When they play the national anthem for GBR, do they princes say "God save my granny"? 15:02 < Ironholds> WhiskerBiscuit: no. the queen has no relatives. 15:02 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: hah 15:03 < WhiskerBiscuit> Ironholds: the position of queen doesnt? 15:03 < Ironholds> there are 3 queens of the united kingdom. 1 is a kind old lady called liz. she has grandchildren. one is, y'know, the personnification of the crown. she has songs sung about her. One is the personnification-of-the-crown-in-Parliament. 15:03 < WhiskerBiscuit> so 2 and 3 arent the smae? 15:04 < Ironholds> she mostly tends to sign things 15:04 < Ironholds> it depends who you ask ;p 15:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> Who is the one that says "We are not amused" 15:04 -!- yutsi [~yutsi@wikipedia/yutsi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04 < Steven_Zhang> Arbcom is outside my remit :p 15:04 < Ironholds> none of them 15:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> I like that one 15:04 < Ironholds> Steven_Zhang: why? you're getting involved in user conduct. arbcom is user conduct. 15:05 -!- yutsi [~yutsi@c-98-221-123-199.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:05 -!- yutsi [~yutsi@c-98-221-123-199.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:05 -!- yutsi [~yutsi@wikipedia/yutsi] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:05 < SigmaWP> window.location.href = document.getElementById("pt-logout").firstChild.href; 15:05 < IRWolfie-> Ironholds: she waves as well 15:05 < WhiskerBiscuit> sucks... going to be housebound for a week 15:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> and crutches for 2 weeks after 15:07 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-2-197.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:07 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:08 < Steven_Zhang> Lol 15:08 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-23-156.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:09 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:10 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:11 -!- Jarry1250 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Jarry1250] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12 < WhiskerBiscuit> thats not funn 15:13 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-28-11.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:13 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-23-156.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:15 < IRWolfie-> Fluffernutter: Is that from observation or what you have heard previously? 15:15 < IRWolfie-> in relation to WQA 15:16 < Fluffernutter> every time I've looked at it (and I will say here that I'm not a close watcher of it), it's been full of people taking potshots at each other and helpers going "well maybe if we all just take a DEEP BREATH" helplessly while rome burns around them 15:17 -!- boogieGBU [~blazer@197.15.60.17] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:18 -!- boogieGBU [~blazer@197.15.60.17] has quit [Client Quit] 15:18 < Fluffernutter> mostly because the whole point of WQA seems to be that it has no teeth, and if you try to give it teeth you're doing it wrong 15:20 -!- andrewcrawford [~andrewcra@cpc3-cast8-2-0-cust294.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:20 < IRWolfie-> if you give it teeth it just becomes ANI 15:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> what does that stand for? 15:20 < IRWolfie-> wikiquette assistance 15:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> ah 15:20 < Guerillero> it should be demolished 15:20 -!- quanticle|away is now known as quanticle 15:20 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:20 < Guerillero> and there should be two entry level ways to deal with disputes 15:20 < Fluffernutter> if "stop being mean please" doesn't work on, say, an article or user talk, i'm not sure quite what makes people think "no, really, please stop being mean?" will workm on a noticeboard 15:20 < Guerillero> for conduct ANI and for content DRN 15:20 < Guerillero> then to formal mediation 15:20 < Guerillero> then to arbcom 15:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> I've never seen it before, but from looking at it, it looks just like ANI, a series of complaints 15:20 < Guerillero> ani can work well 15:20 < Guerillero> it is in the best state I have ever seen 15:21 < IRWolfie-> WhiskerBiscuit: yes, the idea is that people discuss issues related to civility only 15:21 < WhiskerBiscuit> all the lavendar? 15:21 < Guerillero> things are getting resolved 15:21 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21 -!- andrewcrawford [~andrewcra@cpc3-cast8-2-0-cust294.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:21 < WhiskerBiscuit> anytime some posted something new it felt like someone was vandalizing the forum... who let this white stuff in 15:21 < IRWolfie-> Guerillero: some incidents are very minor, they shouldn't be at ANI. Sometimes no admin action is required, that shouldn't be at ANI either 15:22 < Guerillero> correct 15:22 -!- closedmouth [~mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:22 < Guerillero> but there is no good place with teeth that is less than ani 15:22 < SigmaWP> http://tnx.nl/php.html#names 15:22 < SigmaWP> I love this page 15:22 < Guerillero> DRN should not be a conduct area 15:23 < IRWolfie-> sometimes people just want someone validation, even if it can't be resolved 15:23 < WhiskerBiscuit> How is WQA different then going to helpdesk? 15:23 < WhiskerBiscuit> seems to me it should be a sub-space of helpdesk, specifciclly for civiilty issues 15:23 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:24 < WhiskerBiscuit> Actually, the whole hierarchy of differnt boards isn't that clear 15:24 < Fluffernutter> helpdesk is for technical issues 15:24 < IRWolfie-> and how admins handle civility issues pretty much depends on who the editor being uncivil is 15:24 -!- Guerillero_ [~chatzilla@pool-71-162-20-45.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:24 < Fluffernutter> in the sense that "if you do this every weekend like clockwork we will give you less leeway," yes 15:25 < WhiskerBiscuit> Is there a diagram of the different help boards anywhere? 15:25 < IRWolfie-> Fluffernutter: not from what I've seen 15:25 < IRWolfie-> I've seen it argued that is just the way they are 15:25 < IRWolfie-> etc 15:26 -!- Steven_Zhang_ [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:26 < BarkingFish> Earlier today, or possibly last night, someone mentioned a sockpuppet who has created usernames where they repeat themselves. Anyone remember who it was? it was something to do with Israel... 15:26 < IRWolfie-> I've seen personal attacks result in blocks, sometimes no action 15:26 < Fluffernutter> that's generally by non-admin enablers, Ironholds. THough sometimes the enablers are, indeed, admins 15:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> BarkingFish: someone pulling the repeater? 15:26 < IRWolfie-> even when very similar in severity 15:26 < Fluffernutter> gah, IRWolfie- 15:26 < Fluffernutter> (sorry Ironholds_ 15:26 < foks> irw v irh 15:26 < BarkingFish> WhiskerBiscuit, yeah 15:26 < IRWolfie-> yes, there are enablers 15:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> some vandals amuse me 15:26 -!- Guerillero__ [~chatzilla@pool-71-126-46-35.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:27 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:27 < IRWolfie-> It seems to cause people to go into a kind of death spiral of worse behaviour 15:27 -!- Guerillero__ is now known as Guerillero 15:27 < WhiskerBiscuit> theyfind some pretty creative ways to disrupt 15:27 -!- Guerillero is now known as Guest76807 15:27 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: Not that there is anything wrong with that] 15:28 -!- Ironholds [~f@wikipedia/Ironholds] has quit [Quit: connection reset by peerage] 15:28 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:29 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:29 < Theo|dinner> Seahorse, how is it in the sea? 15:29 -!- Steven_Zhang_ is now known as Steven_Zhang 15:29 < seiyuuEva> lol 15:30 < WhiskerBiscuit> Theo, how was dinner? 15:30 -!- Guerillero_ [~chatzilla@pool-71-162-20-45.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:30 -!- Theo|dinner is now known as Theopolisme 15:30 < Theopolisme> WhiskerBiscuit, how were the biscuits would be a better question, would it not? 15:31 < WhiskerBiscuit> Theopolisme: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whisker%20biscuit 15:31 < WhiskerBiscuit> u tell me :D 15:32 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has quit [Quit: Nos vemos mañana.] 15:33 -!- MC8 [~herpes@host86-178-130-49.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:33 -!- MC8 [~herpes@host86-178-130-49.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:33 -!- MC8 [~herpes@wikimedia/Microchip08] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:33 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33 < Theopolisme> Ah, classy. Real classy/ 15:33 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:34 -!- Guest76807 [~chatzilla@pool-71-126-46-35.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:34 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:34 < Theopolisme> Ah, classy. Real classy 15:34 < WhiskerBiscuit> I heard you the first time 15:34 < TeeTylerToe> maybe Biscuits of the whisker variety are an acquired taste 15:35 < WhiskerBiscuit> I just thouhgt it was a funny name 15:35 < Theopolisme> Sorry, client resent it as I disconnected 15:35 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:35 < Theopolisme> WhiskerBiscuit: Right. 15:35 < WhiskerBiscuit> and couldnt really be offensive 15:35 < Theopolisme> mm 15:36 < WhiskerBiscuit> Well, judge not. most people think it is flour below the nose like you 15:36 < Theopolisme> Ahahaha 15:36 < Theopolisme> We're nice and pure 15:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> Reminded of me when people were running a petition to "end women's suffrage" 15:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> when people had no idea what suffrage meant, so they signed it 15:37 < Theopolisme> <and more power to them> 15:38 < WhiskerBiscuit> its more fun to go through life if you are easily amused 15:38 < Theopolisme> Who might you be _on-wiki_? 15:38 < SigmaWP> Does any patrolling admin want to protect https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atlantic_Records&action=history 15:38 < WhiskerBiscuit> Fasttimes68 15:38 < WhiskerBiscuit> i would change it here, but I idle on diff freenodes 15:38 -!- mabdul|dog [~mabdul@wikipedia/mabdul] has quit [] 15:38 < WhiskerBiscuit> and dont want to mix and match 15:38 < Theopolisme> Mhm 15:39 -!- Jayflux [~jay_knows@cpc1-dudl6-0-0-cust1981.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39 < WhiskerBiscuit> I figured out how to log in twice once, but I had to restore my machine and lost it again 15:39 < Theopolisme> Whoopsies 15:40 < WhiskerBiscuit> speaking of which... this is a mess 15:40 < WhiskerBiscuit> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Show 15:40 < Theopolisme> Agh 15:40 < WhiskerBiscuit> notable segments, famous juggy girls? 15:40 -!- Topher385 [629dc974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.157.201.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:40 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@pool-68-238-48-51.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:40 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@pool-68-238-48-51.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:40 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:41 < Theopolisme> lulz 15:41 < seiyuuEva> O.o 15:41 < WhiskerBiscuit> I'd hate to remvoe the notable segment section, but.... 15:42 < WhiskerBiscuit> tea... 15:42 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:42 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:42 < WhiskerBiscuit> ty 15:42 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:42 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:42 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:43 -!- Topher385 [629dc974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.157.201.116] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:43 < Theopolisme> Mhm 15:43 < Theopolisme> Welcome 15:43 < WhiskerBiscuit> Did you Irish it? 15:43 < WhiskerBiscuit> :D 15:44 < SigmaWP> GorillaWarfare: I read your name as CoalballWarfare for a second 15:44 < Theopolisme> Ahaha 15:44 -!- flyingclimber [~flyingcli@c-50-131-56-87.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:45 * Isarra throws a pony at SigmaWP. 15:45 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:45 * Theopolisme intersects the pony just to be annoying 15:45 < WhiskerBiscuit> Ok... look at this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_and_Chandra_Costello 15:46 < WhiskerBiscuit> Even if this were one person, articles arent supposed to be a list of their works? 15:47 < Theopolisme> Ah, they can include lists 15:47 < Theopolisme> Nothin' wrong with that 15:47 < WhiskerBiscuit> its all list 15:47 < WhiskerBiscuit> and it also has a filmography... yet its two people. Are we to assume that both of these people are in all of those films? 15:48 < Peter-C> yutsi - yo 15:48 < yutsi> hi 15:48 < yutsi> I'm bored, so I'm browsing 4chan boards. 15:49 < Peter-C> ಠ_ಠ 15:49 < WhiskerBiscuit> need food 15:49 < Theopolisme> Peter-C: Strong Support 15:49 < WhiskerBiscuit> Theopolisme: thx for the darjeeling 15:52 < Theopolisme> Anytime 15:52 < Theopolisme> And yes, I did look that up 15:53 < Theopolisme> And I am not surprised. Not at all. 15:53 < WhiskerBiscuit> surprised at what? 15:54 < SigmaWP> yutsi: http://tnx.nl/php.html 15:54 < yutsi> what about it? 15:54 < SigmaWP> Read that instead of 4chan :) 15:55 < Theopolisme> Hmm.... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Darjeeling%20standpipe Ahem WhiskerBiscuit 15:55 -!- Ironholds [~f@wikipedia/Ironholds] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:55 < WhiskerBiscuit> lol... I had no idea that exist 15:55 < WhiskerBiscuit> existed... honest! 15:55 < yutsi> lol 15:56 < WhiskerBiscuit> Americans would never even think of using a teapot as a sex toy 15:56 < yutsi> fakku.net is also one of my favorite timewasters (NSFW). but thanks SigmaWP, it's very interesting 15:56 < SigmaWP> Duly noted, and no problem 15:56 < yutsi> lol 15:57 < WhiskerBiscuit> henatia (sp?) disturbs me 15:57 < yutsi> Peter-C: Hurry up. What article are you working on? 15:57 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:58 < WhiskerBiscuit> and does japanese porn blur eveything out? 15:58 < BarkingFish> Oh my god. A guy just posted this on reddit - I'd have a field day with this as a medic, so would you Peter-C - as the caption says: "I heard a unpleasant sound while playing on my computer. Upon opening my door, I saw this: " http://imgur.com/k84pT 15:59 < Theopolisme> Must dash, sorry 15:59 < WhiskerBiscuit> later tater 15:59 < Theopolisme> Bye! 15:59 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has quit [Quit: Urgent? Message me: http://enwp.org/User_talk:Theopolisme] 15:59 < WhiskerBiscuit> lol BarkingFish 15:59 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 15:59 < WhiskerBiscuit> all, gotta go bathe or the wife wont feed me 15:59 < yutsi> WhiskerBiscuit: I believe Japanese obscenity laws forbid making porn without blurring. 16:00 < BarkingFish> WhiskerBiscuit, In most cases, Japanese porn does blot stuff out - Hentai, Loli and Shota especially 16:00 < yutsi> loli is gross. 16:00 < WhiskerBiscuit> how is it diff? 16:00 < BarkingFish> Some people (like myself) get requested to "unblur" stuff, which we're only quite happy to do. 16:00 < yutsi> It's little kids 16:00 < WhiskerBiscuit> fantastic 16:00 < yutsi> but animated of course 16:00 < yutsi> lol 16:00 < WhiskerBiscuit> I just searched 16:00 < ItzExor> haha you searched loli? 16:00 < WhiskerBiscuit> shota = shit 16:00 -!- DJMalikBOT [DJMalik@181-182-12-169.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:01 < WhiskerBiscuit> Is lolii actually a japanese term? Or is that a disambig from lolita 16:01 < BarkingFish> yutsi, it's not just little kids - I don't work that side. I do High School side, and straight Hentai 16:01 < WhiskerBiscuit> so, you "unblur" hentai? 16:02 < yutsi> WhiskerBiscuit: Check out the good stuff: http://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=19390 16:02 < ItzExor> it's a shortened form of lolita 16:02 < BarkingFish> WhiskerBiscuit, it's a corruption: Lolicon/Roricon is corrupted from Lolita complex 16:02 < WhiskerBiscuit> ah 16:02 < WhiskerBiscuit> make ssense 16:02 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:02 -!- DJMalik [b5b60ca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.181.182.12.169] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:02 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:02 < BarkingFish> WhiskerBiscuit, yeah. Anybody posts something they want cleaning up, just like I do in the WP graphics lab, I do it. 16:02 < WhiskerBiscuit> So bark, let mte get this straight.. people request stuff to be unblurred and there are people that do this? 16:02 < BarkingFish> yes 16:02 < WhiskerBiscuit> thats fucking awesome 16:02 < yutsi> BarkingFish: Do you like manga and anime? I never really got into maga 16:02 < WhiskerBiscuit> heh 16:02 < yutsi> *manga 16:03 * DJMalikBOT Accepted the bot 16:03 < yutsi> Now I know who to come to 16:03 < IRWolfie-> I've never really wanted to read comics 16:03 < IRWolfie-> too boring 16:03 < BarkingFish> yutsi, I'm into anime more. 16:03 < BarkingFish> Manga, not so much 16:04 < yutsi> BarkingFish: I have a 1.9 GB fap folder, ~50% of which is hentai. :) 16:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> What is Shota? 16:04 < BarkingFish> DJMalik, please take the bot out of the channel - we don't allow bots in here who speak 16:04 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.] 16:04 < BarkingFish> WhiskerBiscuit, Shota is the male equivalent of Lolicon 16:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> I remember when the first shock videos started making the rounds on the internet 16:04 < yutsi> BarkingFish: What is adult gay hentai then? 16:04 < Cassie> I wonder when Al Gore invented the internet, did he think it would just be used for porn? 16:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> one of them was entitled "The japanese are suck fucks" 16:04 < DJMalik> BarkingFish:Not a bot 16:04 < yutsi> WhiskerBiscuit: Yes they are 16:05 < TeeTylerToe> That doesn't sound like nearly enough wang for wikicommons yutsi 16:05 < yutsi> lol 16:05 < yutsi> I have almost no penii 16:05 < WhiskerBiscuit> this was worse than 2 girls 1 cup 16:05 < TeeTylerToe> naughty naughty 16:05 < yutsi> Anything round is good for me 16:05 < yutsi> LOL 16:05 < IShadowed__> ... 16:05 < IShadowed__> you're 10 16:05 < yutsi> omg 16:05 -!- DeltaQuad [~quassel@wikipedia/DeltaQuad] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:05 < Peter-C> BarkingFish - lulwtf 16:06 < yutsi> I have newfound respect for BarkingFish as of today 16:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> my buddy taught English in Japan 16:06 < TeeTylerToe> friend of my brother's did. Rural. Didn't go well. 16:06 < foks> DJMalik, what is it if not a bot? 16:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> He said the japanse are walking contradictions 16:06 < BarkingFish> DJMalik, seems kind of odd then to call it DJMalikBOT 16:07 < IShadowed__> meoww 16:07 < ItzExor> haha reminds me of that video where the japanese chick is mispronouncing coke as cock 16:07 < WhiskerBiscuit> all right.. really outta here. porn sidetracked me 16:07 < yutsi> my brother lived in Japan (on and off) for a while. He became fluent in Japanese within a few months 16:07 < TeeTylerToe> how are they a contradiction? 16:07 < WhiskerBiscuit> http://www.weirdasianews.com/2012/05/30/korean-teacher-hilariously-mispronounces-coke/ 16:07 < WhiskerBiscuit> Korean... 16:07 < yutsi> Now I'm having the urge to go on fakku. MUST. EDIT. WIKIPEDIA. 16:07 < DJMalik> BarkingFish:I put it because I have no job 16:08 < ItzExor> WhiskerBiscuit the vid i saw said japanese 16:08 < WhiskerBiscuit> And nothing pisses a Korean off like being compared to the Japanese 16:08 < TeeTylerToe> you're a dj 16:08 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08 < ItzExor> i didn't exactly study the text to confirm 16:08 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:08 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:08 -!- The_Blade [18ba3b3e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.186.59.62] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:08 -!- The_Blade [18ba3b3e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.186.59.62] has quit [Changing host] 16:08 -!- The_Blade [18ba3b3e@wikipedia/The-Blade-of-the-Northern-Lights] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:09 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:09 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:09 < seiyuuEva> Hi 16:09 < DJMalik> Hello seiyuuEva 16:09 < TeeTylerToe> hi 16:09 < seiyuuEva> i <3 japan 16:09 < seiyuuEva> hi DJMalik 16:09 < yutsi> PLEASE GIVE ME COCK. I WANT A COCK 16:09 < yutsi> XD 16:10 * TeeTylerToe tosses yutsi some chick fil a 16:10 < WhiskerBiscuit> link 16:10 < BarkingFish> yeah, I remember that vid, yutsi 16:10 < yutsi> ROFL 16:10 < TeeTylerToe> you sly dog you 16:10 < BarkingFish> i think it's still on Youtube somewhere 16:10 < yutsi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuAXoSnp14M 16:10 < WhiskerBiscuit> hahaha 16:10 < WhiskerBiscuit> id give her some 16:11 < WhiskerBiscuit> shes kinda cute 16:11 < yutsi> wut? She's meh 16:11 < TeeTylerToe> keep your tea kettle to yourself! 16:11 < WhiskerBiscuit> heh 16:11 < yutsi> 2/10. Would not bang. 16:11 < WhiskerBiscuit> ugh.. YRC is going off the rails 16:11 < The_Blade> I think YRC's RfC set a new record for least amount of time before the histrionics started. 16:11 < WhiskerBiscuit> that boy needs a gf 16:12 < The_Blade> What he needs is a sense of perspective. 16:12 < seiyuuEva> XD 16:12 < yutsi> Who's YRC? 16:13 < The_Blade> yutsi; Youreallycan 16:13 < yutsi> i need a gf 16:13 < Fluffernutter> most wikipedians do 16:13 < WhiskerBiscuit> why is it that Asians have difficulty with prefix letters like "a" 16:14 < WhiskerBiscuit> Please give me coke, vs Please give me a coke 16:14 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:14 < yutsi> i want teh cock 16:14 < yutsi> lol 16:14 < WhiskerBiscuit> not sure they have a problem with the defnite article 16:14 -!- DeltaQuad is now known as DQ|away 16:15 < IRWolfie-> The_Blade: his approach the RFC seems self defeating 16:15 < foks> WhiskerBiscuit, they probably don't exist 16:15 < ItzExor> haha WhiskerBiscuit it has a whole different meaning too 16:15 < ItzExor> drug vs soda 16:16 < IRWolfie-> *his approach at the 16:16 < IRWolfie-> (if only irc had minor edits) 16:16 < foks> A lot of English-speakers learning Spanish/German/French forget to include the "la"/"el" etc too 16:16 < WhiskerBiscuit> His RFC is going to have the online equivilant of having him involunarily commited 16:16 < foks> since we don't use the articles generally 16:16 < foks> DJMalik, again, could you take the bot out of here? 16:17 < WhiskerBiscuit> foks: but in that video, she wrote out the sentance and intionally missed "a" 16:17 < WhiskerBiscuit> Give me Coke 16:17 < foks> Because "coke" is a liquid 16:17 < DJMalik> foks:I do not understand what you say 16:17 < WhiskerBiscuit> English is hard 16:17 < foks> And therefore shouldn't really have "a" 16:17 -!- Lubaf [~chatzilla@c-67-188-188-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:17 < WhiskerBiscuit> Foks wants the cock 16:17 < WhiskerBiscuit> :D 16:17 < Lubaf> Superman: Fuck yeah! Comin' to save the motherfucking day yeah! 16:17 < foks> "Coke" is short for "a can of cola" right? 16:17 < BarkingFish> DJMalik, you understand perfectly. You did when I told you earlier. 16:17 < ItzExor> no 16:18 < ItzExor> coke is short for coca cola 16:18 < foks> DJMalik, please take DJMalikBOT out of here. :) 16:18 < Lubaf> No, coke is short for cocaine. 16:18 < WhiskerBiscuit> or maybe she wants to do some blow 16:18 < BarkingFish> I asked you to remove DJMalikBOT from the channel, and you said "It's not a bot" 16:18 < Lubaf> (She don't mind she don't mind she don't mind) 16:18 < WhiskerBiscuit> she bang she bang 16:20 < BarkingFish> you understood me fine, dude - don't play the fool. It doesn't work in here. 16:20 < DJMalik> foks: That is not a Bot 16:20 < foks> WhiskerBiscuit, "A Coke" is colloquial English 16:20 < foks> DJMalik, then what is it? 16:20 < foks> Please do let me know. 16:20 < Lubaf> foks: A script. 16:20 < Lubaf> It's a script, not a bot. 16:20 < DJMalik> foks: a client no more 16:20 < ItzExor> some bots are scripts... 16:20 < foks> What is a "script" in this context then? 16:20 < yutsi> are we still talking about cock? 16:20 < Lubaf> foks: The same thing as a bot. 16:20 < foks> ... 16:20 < ItzExor> haha 16:20 < Lubaf> yutsi: No, we're talking about coke. 16:20 < yutsi> lol 16:20 < foks> DJMalik, if it's not a bot, then why is it called "BOT"? 16:20 < foks> That seems rather silly. 16:20 < ItzExor> it's dj malik's bag of tricks 16:20 < ItzExor> lol 16:21 < yutsi> Let's mediate this guys. Oh wait, that's working. ARBCOM THAT BOT'S ASS 16:21 < Lubaf> foks: More seriously, it could be the shell of a bot, but not actually a bot. 16:21 < yutsi> *that's not 16:21 < DJMalik> foks: I use it as a bot because I like that nickname 16:21 < foks> DJMalik, so long as you realise that bots aren't permitted in this channel. 16:21 < Fluffernutter> DJMalik: you'd get fewer weird questions if you just renamed it to something that didn';t sound like it was a bot 16:22 -!- LtNOWIS [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:22 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:23 < Lubaf> Try DJMalikNotABot 16:23 < Lubaf> Or DJMalikIsARobot 16:23 < seiyuuEva> lol 16:23 < DJMalik> foks: and because it allowed 16:23 < foks> Bots aren't allowed, no. 16:24 < ItzExor> haha you want to know why people don't a? because listen to this definition it prolly confuses the hell out of them 16:24 < ItzExor> 1. not any particular or certain one of a class or group: a man; a chemical; a house. 16:24 < ItzExor> 2. a certain; a particular: one at a time; two of a kind; A Miss Johnson called. 16:24 -!- Ironholds [~f@wikipedia/Ironholds] has quit [Quit: connection reset by peerage] 16:24 < BarkingFish> how bout instead of second guessing the thing, someone kicks it out. we cannot take the risk that it could be doing something unpleasant in here. 16:24 < ItzExor> don't use a** 16:25 -!- DJMalikBOT is now known as DJMalik_ 16:25 < Lubaf> Anyway. 16:25 < Lubaf> I'll have a rum and cocaine. 16:25 -!- The_Blade [18ba3b3e@wikipedia/The-Blade-of-the-Northern-Lights] has left #wikipedia-en [] 16:25 < DJMalik> foks: Cambie mi nombre 16:25 < Fluffernutter> thanks DJMalik :) 16:25 < Lubaf> (Which presumably tastes terrible.) 16:26 < Lubaf> (And leaves the tongue numb.) 16:26 < DJMalik> foks: Ready apologize for writing in Spanish 16:26 -!- ikewi_ [~kiewii@5add557a.bb.sky.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:26 < ItzExor> until your mouth is numb 16:26 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@69.11.115.198] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:26 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@69.11.115.198] has quit [Changing host] 16:26 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:26 < foks> DJMalik, no need to apologise. Thanks for that. 16:26 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:26 -!- DJMalik_ [DJMalik@181-182-12-169.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has left #wikipedia-en ["Saliendo"] 16:28 -!- ikewi [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:28 < DJMalik> foks :) 16:28 -!- ikewi_ is now known as ikewi 16:28 -!- MRX [MrX@unaffiliated/mistrx] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:29 -!- MRX [MrX@unaffiliated/mistrx] has left #wikipedia-en [] 16:29 < Peter-C> Any admin around? 16:29 < SigmaWP> \x1b[H\x1b[2J 16:29 < Peter-C> O-o 16:29 < SigmaWP> Apparently printing that causes a clear-terminal 16:30 < SigmaWP> On Linux 16:31 < Peter-C> yutsi - get ready 16:31 < yutsi> kk 16:31 < yutsi> I think I need to choose a waifu 16:31 < yutsi> 0.0 16:33 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:34 -!- Antonorsi is now known as DJAntonorsi 16:34 < ikewi> ahhhh 16:35 < Peter-C> Fluffernutter - I choose you! 16:35 * Peter-C tosses a ball at Fluffernutter’s face 16:35 < Fluffernutter> ain't no fluffernutters here 16:35 -!- DJAntonorsi is now known as Antonorsi 16:35 < Peter-C> Wanna merge a page for me 16:35 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:35 < Peter-C> Because your awesome. 16:35 < Peter-C> *move 16:36 < Peter-C> I can’t move the page, because the page is already created. 16:36 < Peter-C> And the interwebs say I need an admin 16:37 < mysterytrey> nlufferfutter! Or nufferflutter... 16:38 < yutsi> lol is fluffernutter a pokemon now? 16:39 * Fluffernutter hates merges 16:39 < yutsi> Can a pancreas be a pokemon? 16:39 < Fluffernutter> foks wants to do it for you >_> 16:39 < mysterytrey> PancreaS? 16:39 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@wikimedia/Logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:39 < mysterytrey> **pancreas?** 16:39 < yutsi> foks is so foksy 16:39 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 6 hours 16:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am so excited I can panic 16:40 < yutsi> mysterytrey: You speeled it the same way 16:40 < mysterytrey> 6 hours til something-olympics-related? 16:40 < mysterytrey> I was correcting the capital s 16:40 -!- Ironholds [~f@wikipedia/Ironholds] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:40 < Frood> no, Curiosity landing 16:41 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mars will gain 1000kg mass 16:42 < yutsi> mysterytrey: The S wasn't capital 16:42 < Peter-C> Fluffernutter - it’s a *move* 16:42 < Peter-C> :3 16:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter the movie! 16:42 < Peter-C> You basicly delete a page and merge over my page. you would just cover over a redirect page so nothing is lost. 16:42 < yutsi> Peter-C: nominate me for RfA, and somehow get people to vote for me, and when I become an admin, I'll do the move. :D 16:42 < mysterytrey> The first time, second time or both. 16:42 < Peter-C> :o 16:42 < mysterytrey> ? 16:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yutsi word domination is easier 16:43 < yutsi> I wrote pancreas as such "pancreas" 16:43 < yutsi> That is true 16:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yutsi what about pancakes? 16:43 < yutsi> You need 9 million edits to pass RfA now 16:43 < yutsi> lol 16:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yutsi even if I had 9 billion edits I wouldnt pass 16:43 < TeeTylerToe> that's how the weed out all the sane people! 16:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mmm 16:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> weed indeed 16:44 < IRWolfie-> I'd say somewhere above 8 thousand is reasonable 16:44 < yutsi> Seriously, though, the main problem with RfA is the ridiculous requests of the voters. Each voter values different things in an admin, and it all comes to together in this discombobulated process. 16:44 < mysterytrey> yutsi: I see this: 19:39 "<mysterytrey> PancreaS?" then I see this "19:39 <mysterytrey> **pancreas?**" 16:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> IRWolfie- how about 50k? 16:44 < yutsi> How long does it take to get 5000 if I work hard? 16:44 < yutsi> I have 3000 now 16:44 < IRWolfie-> a year 16:44 < yutsi> fuck it all 16:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yutsi I can make 500 edits a day 16:44 < yutsi> Actually that's not that bad 16:45 < yutsi> ToAruShiroiNeko: YEah. but I go to school, so I can't just NPP and stuff all day 16:45 < yutsi> I don't have the attention span 16:45 < mysterytrey> I think one person got like 17000+ edits a month but they sat on huggle 24/7. 16:45 < yutsi> lol 16:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mysterytrey nice 16:48 < yutsi> Maybe I'll try out Huggle 16:48 < mysterytrey> I know right? 16:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> OCD ftw 16:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mysterytrey sure that person probablyw as you :p 16:48 < mysterytrey> I think it was some chris dude. 16:48 < mysterytrey> ChrisGuilt or something. 16:48 < closedmouth> i got 14,000 in june 2008 16:48 < mysterytrey> Ahh... chrisguaralti. No clue about the spelling though. 16:48 < Peter-C> closedmouth - are you an admin? 16:48 < closedmouth> yes 16:48 < Peter-C> PERFECT 16:48 < closedmouth> but i'm going to work now 16:48 < Peter-C> D: 16:48 < closedmouth> so fuck off 16:48 < Peter-C> :( 16:48 < yutsi> lol 16:48 * Peter-C huggles closedmouth 16:48 * yutsi strangles closedmouth 16:48 < BarkingFish> mysterytrey, you mean Chris Gualtieri? 16:48 < mysterytrey> Yeah. 16:48 < yutsi> Wasn't he on here b4? 16:48 < Peter-C> Ironholds - wanna be AWESOME? 16:48 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:48 < BarkingFish> yeah, he's in quite a bit yutsi 16:48 < Peter-C> I need to accomplish my DYK a day for the next month and I need your help. 16:48 < yutsi> Peter-C: I can help with anything non-admin 16:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> closedmouth but your mouth is closed 16:49 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:49 < BarkingFish> was last on about 18 hours ago, yutsi 16:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if it were open you'd not have the time to edit as much 16:49 < mysterytrey> Ahh. ChrisGualtieri's account is a rollbacker, 5 months old, with 82,036 edits . Last edited 7 hours ago 16:50 < BarkingFish> wait, what> 16:50 < BarkingFish> ? 16:50 < BarkingFish> 82036 edits in 5 months??? 16:50 < mysterytrey> Yes. 16:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not that unusual 16:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> edit count is irrelevant 16:51 < BarkingFish> ToAruShiroiNeko, i feel positively fucking slow then. I have barely 7500 edits in almost 8 years :( 16:51 < yutsi> thats disgusting 16:51 < yutsi> that many edis 16:51 < BarkingFish> how the fuck did he get that high? 16:51 < mysterytrey> http://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php?name=ChrisGualtieri&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia 16:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> does that person have any clue about copyrights? does he understand the point of NPA etc 16:51 < mysterytrey> 47074 in article-space 16:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> these quesitons matter 16:51 < Isarra> I almost have 3000 edits. Beat that. 16:51 < yutsi> i have 3000, and I've been a regular editor since 2010. :( 16:52 < Isarra> I've been a regular editor since... uh... this year. 16:52 < Isarra> Sort of. 16:52 * Isarra pleads laziness. 16:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Isarra you were always an irregular editor :p 16:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> lazy is good 16:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it implies you have stuff to do 16:52 < yutsi> ToAruShiroiNeko: In a perfect world, edit count is irrelevant; however, RfA !voters get distracted by shiny numbers. 16:52 * Isarra starts coughing. 16:53 < mysterytrey> Oh. He's typo fixing using AWB 16:53 < BarkingFish> the perfect way to conduct rfa would be to not make user's edit counts available as part of the rfa process. 16:53 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:53 < yutsi> lol I agree 16:53 < mysterytrey> The perfect way to conduct RfA will never exist. 16:53 < Isarra> But if folks are looking at the edits, which they really ought to, they'll get a gist of the count anyway. 16:53 < yutsi> we should disable all of the edit counters 16:54 < mysterytrey> Frankly, that would be a better way. 16:54 < BarkingFish> unfortunately, the problem there is that it would mean taking all the external edit tools off line 16:54 < Isarra> The question is if they can even find anything relevant or is it all lost in the semi-automated edits? 16:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yutsi not really 16:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I can fail an rfa despite my edit count 16:54 * Peter-C pokes ragesoss 16:54 < mysterytrey> I can fail an RfA because of my edit count. 16:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I will never have a passing rfa on en.wikipedia, not that adminship matters to me 16:55 < mysterytrey> I can also fail an RfA without my edit count. 16:55 < Isarra> I can fail an RfA because I'm an asshole, I bet. 16:55 < ragesoss> huh? 16:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont rc patrol I do no and will not do anything admins do 16:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so I could care less about the sysop fla 16:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> g 16:55 < mysterytrey> ToAruShiroiNeko: Request for global sysop! 16:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I'll pass 16:55 < Isarra> Although even if I were an admin here, it wouldn't benefit here at all. I'd just use it to check things on commons. >.< 16:56 * Fluffernutter has generally found that an RFA run for reasons other than "Dammit, I am SICK of having to find an admin to do things when I'm trying to work!" or "Dammit, I am SICK of having this person have to come to me to have work done in admin areas" are much more prone to tanking 16:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I have seen how some global sysops think 16:56 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont want to be associated with them in any shape or form 16:56 < Isarra> How do they think? 16:56 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> let me put it this way 16:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they'd rather nominate/userify a page they feel is a good idea unless there isnt prior consensus to create it 16:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> on meta 16:57 -!- Arcturus [~Amarty@bband-dyn21.95-103-24.t-com.sk] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> where consensus is unheard of 16:57 < mysterytrey> I have less edits than yutsi :( 16:57 < yutsi> LOLWUT 16:58 < BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, to be honest, that is one of the reasons I was considering becoming an admin. It seems such a shame to bug people to do stuff for you, when you can get the ability to do those things yourself. 16:58 < yutsi> BarkingFish: I'd vote for you. I'll nominate you if you want. 16:58 < GabrielF> but… but… human interaction!!! 16:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter I probably am one of the best people on wiki that can deal with copyvios 16:58 < BarkingFish> I think people wanting to become admins should have the option of having the right for a trial period of 2 weeks, during which other administrators can see how they cope with the tool. 16:58 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:58 < Isarra> ToAruShiroiNeko: Has anyone tried smacking them? 16:58 < mysterytrey> BarkingFish: Have you started ticking off the checkboxes for RfA yet? 16:58 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59 -!- Arcturus [~Amarty@bband-dyn21.95-103-24.t-com.sk] has left #wikipedia-en [] 16:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Isarra why bother? I dont have the time to deal with them. 16:59 < BarkingFish> It's great to make people go through an rfa, sure, but it would be helpful for applicants to see the tools first hand, and understand how they work 16:59 < Isarra> But smacking people is fun. 16:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I only wanted to nuke copyvios on smaller wikis 16:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they were unwilling 16:59 < Isarra> Ach. 16:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> nothing I can do then 16:59 < Isarra> That's actually sensible. 16:59 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:59 < yutsi> I hate how people with content skills and almost no maintenance skills can pass as admins 17:00 < BarkingFish> ToAruShiroiNeko, are you willing to apply for perms as a temp admin to a small wiki? 17:00 < Isarra> BarkingFish: My introduction to adminning was being given the tools and absolutely no guidance as to what to do with them. 17:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish on which wiki? 17:00 < BarkingFish> If you are, I have a proposal for you. See PM. 17:00 < yutsi> I mean, do they need admin status to make FAs? 17:00 < Isarra> Having been through that, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. 17:00 < Fluffernutter> BarkingFish: it's easy to behave for 2 weeks. Most people don't start settling in and not being pin-perfect until a couple of *months* in 17:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> most smaller wikis are without an active community 17:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they have like one or two editors 17:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if at all 17:00 < BarkingFish> Isarra, precisely. Giving people the tools and no clues on what they do with them is wrong. 17:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and have so many copyvios that arent even used in articles 17:01 -!- ragesoss [~sage@wikimedia/ragesoss] has left #wikipedia-en [] 17:01 < Isarra> Well, there were clues. 17:01 < Isarra> And there were people to ask on different wikis. 17:01 < BarkingFish> Fluffernutter, sure - but it would be a good idea, since if you allow them the space to use the tools alongside a supervising admin, they can have the freedom to try them out. 17:01 < Isarra> Which is probably why I wound up so messed up... 17:01 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:02 < BarkingFish> It seems so fucked up to go: Right, you need to apply for adminship - we have the tools, but you can't use them until you pass, and then when you do pass, you get the tools and we don't tell you what to do with them or how they work. RTFM :) 17:02 < mysterytrey> BarkingFish: You'd probably get attacked if you posted "I think people wanting to become admins should have the option of having the right for a trial period of 2 weeks, during which other administrators can see how they cope with the tool." on Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship, but you should do it anyway. 17:02 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@wikimedia/Logan] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:03 < Fluffernutter> mysterytrey: not so much attacked as fifteen people going "Dude, have you READ WP:PEREN?" 17:03 < Isarra> It only takes people two weeks to become familiar with the tools around here? 17:03 < Isarra> Blimey. 17:03 < mysterytrey> They'd probably say it attackingly. 17:03 < SigmaWP> Is it worse to fail RfA or be yelled at by the aforementioned group of 15? 17:03 < Fluffernutter> two weeks to learn where the buttons are, perhaps 17:03 < yutsi> B/c of research, I already how to do a large amount of admin stuff 17:04 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@wikimedia/Logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:04 * Fluffernutter is a year in and still has to ask for help sometimes on the less-used admin tools 17:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish I did not recieve a pm from you btw 17:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter there are like 2 admin buttons 17:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> block and delete 17:04 < Isarra> And protect. 17:04 < Gfoley4> protect! 17:04 < yutsi> revdelete 17:04 < Gfoley4> Nuke 17:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> -_- 17:04 < yutsi> oversight 17:04 < Isarra> And various related things. 17:05 < SigmaWP> Gfoley4: Especially nuke :D 17:05 < yutsi> wait can admins oversight? 17:05 < Ironholds> yutsi: oversight is not an admin tool 17:05 < Isarra> And user rights. 17:05 < yutsi> Yeah, i forgot 17:05 < BarkingFish> ToAruShiroiNeko, sorry, got sidetracked. 17:05 < Ironholds> you know the users known as oversighters? 17:05 < Ironholds> yeah, THEY have oversight 17:05 < Gfoley4> Fluff still has it! 17:05 < Isarra> Ironholds: It's a coincidence. 17:05 < Ironholds> which is good, because otherwise they'd have really stupid names. 17:05 < yutsi> Can bureaucrats oversight? 17:05 < Gfoley4> no 17:05 < Isarra> The name has nothing to do with anything. 17:05 < Ironholds> no, oversighters can oversight 17:05 < Fluffernutter> heh, not so much. If I asked you to do a histmerge of two articles, each of which have been worked on since they were created, would you know how to do that? It involves a rather complex set of delete, move, delete, restore, lather, rinse, repeat... 17:05 < yutsi> oh 17:05 < Ironholds> I'm struggling to see why you find this so difficult to understand 17:05 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: easy. 17:05 < Isarra> I know how to histmerge! 17:05 < Gfoley4> histmerge is hard 17:05 < IShadowed__> because he's 10 17:05 * Fluffernutter nods 17:05 < Isarra> I know because someone merged his talkpage with someone else's. 17:05 < SigmaWP> Gfoley4: Delete, move, delete, undelete 17:05 < Ironholds> delete [eventual location], move [other] to [eventual location], delete that, restore all revisions 17:06 < Isarra> And then I got to gape at it. 17:06 < Ironholds> Isarra: actually, the name does make sense 17:06 < Isarra> It was like... whaaaaat? 17:06 < Ironholds> (oversight) 17:06 < Isarra> Yes, yes. 17:06 < Ironholds> the original extension for it was Extension:Oversight, so users were named oversighters 17:06 * Fluffernutter oversees oversighters oversighting oversightingly 17:06 < Isarra> Well, no it doesn't. 17:06 < Ironholds> yes, we've replaced it with Extension:Suppress or whatever 17:06 < Ironholds> but, eh. 17:06 < Isarra> But it was the extension that didn't make sense. 17:07 < Ironholds> yeah, it was a sucky extension 17:07 < Ironholds> I remember fondly when someone accidentally oversighted one of our users' entire contribution history 17:07 < Ironholds> 150,000 edits, gone, with no way of getting them back 17:07 < Isarra> >__< 17:07 < Fluffernutter> lol 17:07 < Ironholds> they had to write a script server-side to pull them out and it caused around 1000 seconds of lag while it processed 17:07 < Ironholds> ahh, memories. 17:07 -!- DJMalik is now known as Austin_Moon 17:07 < Ironholds> it was The Thing ;p 17:07 < Ironholds> and it was HILARIOUS, too. 17:08 < Isarra> Was this a coincidence that it happened to someone so questionable? 17:08 < SigmaWP> I wonder if it was written in perl 17:08 < Fluffernutter> he didn't used to be questionable, really 17:08 < IShadowed__> questionable? 17:08 < Isarra> So he only more recently started encouraging vandals? 17:08 < Fluffernutter> he's gotten margianalized onwiki, which had fed into...questionability 17:09 < IShadowed__> yeah Thing used to be quite normal 17:09 < IShadowed__> well. 17:09 < Isarra> Oh, huh. 17:09 < IShadowed__> as normal as he could be 17:09 < Ironholds> Isarra: a couple of years ago 17:09 < Ironholds> he used to be sensible 17:09 < IShadowed__> now he just does ODOR BLOCKING BODY WASH spamming all day 17:09 < IShadowed__> or something. 17:09 < Ironholds> mind you, IShadowed used to be relatively sensible too 17:09 * Isarra headdesks. 17:09 < Ironholds> presumably 17:09 * Fluffernutter pets IShadowed__ 17:09 < IShadowed__> Pretty sure I still am 17:09 < Isarra> Why do I always miss the good old days? 17:09 < Ironholds> you voluntarily hang around with us, hun 17:09 < Ironholds> Isarra: as in, why didn't you get to participate? 17:10 < Ironholds> oh, there were some shitty bits 17:10 < IShadowed__> I don't think being in a channel with 189 others counts as "hanging out" 17:10 < Ironholds> like when roux and le grande pumpkin wassit were active 17:10 < Isarra> No, I always just show up places after they're already dying. 17:10 < IShadowed__> ugh 17:10 < Ironholds> ooh, or ottava. ottava used to hang around here. 17:10 < IShadowed__> fucking roux 17:10 < IShadowed__> mother.fucking. roux. 17:10 < Ironholds> IShadowed: FUCK YOU I HATE YOU FUCKING BIGOT 17:10 < Fluffernutter> ottava still would if he hadn't been banned, I think 17:10 * Ironholds coughs 17:10 < IShadowed__> seriously 17:10 < IShadowed__> he was terrrrrrible 17:10 < Isarra> Then after I wander off, a couple years later they always finish dying. 17:10 < Ironholds> Isarra: we're not dying! 17:10 < Isarra> Ironholds: GOOD! 17:10 < Fluffernutter> who's dying? 17:10 < Ironholds> I'm being paid...not much money to make sure of that! woo! etc! 17:11 < Isarra> Keep ot that way. 17:11 < Ironholds> technically we are dying, very, very slowly 17:11 < Isarra> Or I'll hurt you. 17:11 < Ironholds> if I die, you'll kill me? ;p 17:11 < Isarra> ...yes. 17:11 < Ironholds> and hey, I might be into that kinda thing 17:11 < Ironholds> think threats through 17:11 < IShadowed__> get a room 17:11 < Ironholds> we had one 17:11 < Ironholds> it wasn't as good as the state plaza 17:11 < Ironholds> etc, etc. 17:11 < Isarra> Exactly. 17:11 < Ironholds> shut it, you 17:11 < Ironholds> it was the best kind of room: free! 17:11 < Isarra> You mentioned it. 17:12 < Ironholds> yeah, but for me, mentioning it is like, a one-off 17:12 < Isarra> What's a one-off? 17:12 < Ironholds> it's only really happened a couple of times 17:12 < Ironholds> you complained so much we have a meme based around you complaining about *that specific thing* 17:12 < Isarra> And why is the mediawiki manual so badly written? 17:12 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Quit: User has quit this network.] 17:13 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.182.137] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:13 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:14 < Isarra> So what would be the best way to grant a user the usergroup 'sexy' on a modern mediawiki? 17:14 < Isarra> Is there any good way? 17:14 < Fluffernutter> first you sleep with a dev 17:14 < Fluffernutter> and then you get them drunk 17:14 * IShadowed__ snuggles Flueeh 17:14 < Fluffernutter> and then you go start your own wiki 17:14 < Isarra> Well, some of them are pretty cute... 17:14 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: you know this, how? 17:14 < mysterytrey> Just read that random ninja-walkthrough. 17:15 < Fluffernutter> Ironholds: well, asking in here certainly isn't working for her. It was a valid guess! 17:15 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@pool-71-126-36-65.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:15 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@pool-71-126-36-65.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:15 -!- Guerillero [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:15 < Isarra> It was more interesting than any helpful one. 17:15 < Isarra> Helpful is oft overrated. 17:15 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has left #wikipedia-en [] 17:15 -!- MJ94 [~MJ94@wikimedia/mj94] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:16 < mysterytrey> Hello MJ 94. 17:16 < MJ94> hello mistress trey 17:16 < MJ94> :) 17:16 < mysterytrey> Fuck you. 17:16 < MJ94> mysterytrey: <3 17:16 < MJ94> mysterytrey: how 17:16 < MJ94> mysterytrey: how's life?\ 17:16 < mysterytrey> carefully. 17:17 < MJ94> mysterytrey: also, how hadd? 17:17 < MJ94> hard* 17:17 < MJ94> god 17:17 < MJ94> can't type 17:17 < mysterytrey> How hard? Carefully. 17:17 < Fluffernutter> flooding bad 17:17 < mysterytrey> And I am /not/ a mistress 17:18 < Fluffernutter> hey, what you do in your downtime is your own business 17:18 < Isarra> Are you a master? 17:18 < MJ94> A master baiter. 17:18 < mysterytrey> I don't do it in my downtime. I do it on-wiki. 17:18 < MJ94> Really good fisherwoman 17:19 -!- Jmajeremy [~Jmajeremy@wikipedia/Jmajeremy] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:19 < MJ94> mysterytrey: WikiProject: Sexuality 17:19 < mysterytrey> I am the master, MJ94 is submissive. Like in that book "Fifty shades of Gray". 17:19 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:19 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has quit [Client Quit] 17:19 < IShadowed__> it's Grey 17:19 < mysterytrey> That book was good. 17:19 < IShadowed__> also 17:19 < MJ94> mysterytrey: :) 17:19 < IShadowed__> that is not bdsm 17:19 < Fluffernutter> "good" 17:19 < IShadowed__> just saying 17:19 * Isarra starts singing - always look on the briiight side of liiiife! 17:19 < IShadowed__> and yeah "good"? 17:19 * Fluffernutter puts Isarra on a cross to complete the song 17:19 < IShadowed__> I like my erotic fiction written at above a fifth-grade level 17:19 < mysterytrey> You know there was a huge edit was over the title Grey vs. Gray 17:19 < mysterytrey> ? 17:19 * Isarra dies. 17:20 < mysterytrey> It is fine. 17:20 < IShadowed__> that's retarded, seeing as it was published "Grey" 17:20 < IShadowed__> argument over 17:20 < MJ94> ^ 17:20 < MJ94> it's fucking gray 17:20 * Fluffernutter snuggles IShadowed 17:20 < mysterytrey> IShadowed__: No. 17:20 < Ironholds> okay, okay, look 17:20 < mysterytrey> Not the title of the book. 17:20 < Ironholds> you two are having a fucking feud over the name of a fictional character from malapropriated FANFIC 17:20 < Ironholds> get a sense of perspective, jesus. 17:20 < Guerillero> yep 17:20 < IShadowed__> Ironholds, no 17:20 < Ironholds> also, READ BETTER EROTICA 17:20 < mysterytrey> The article "Grey" or "Gray" 17:20 < Isarra> Here? 17:20 < IShadowed__> he mentioned it 17:20 < IShadowed__> I commented 17:20 < Isarra> You ask for perspective HERE?! 17:20 < IShadowed__> NOW he's trying to commence the argument 17:20 * Isarra lynches Ironholds. 17:21 -!- MJ94 [~MJ94@wikimedia/mj94] has quit [Quit: Textual v2.1 (ZTN Fork v2.0.1) http://www.ztecnet.net/textual] 17:21 < Guerillero> it is arguable a lemon anyway 17:21 < IShadowed__> The argument did not occur. 17:21 < Isarra> What argument? We're having a lynching, not an argument. 17:21 < IShadowed__> Also 17:21 < Ironholds> Isarra: psht. like there are even any trees big enough near you. 17:21 < IShadowed__> I do, I do. 17:21 -!- geniice [~chatzilla@host-78-147-178-236.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:21 -!- geniice [~chatzilla@host-78-147-178-236.as13285.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:21 -!- geniice [~chatzilla@wikipedia/geniice] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:21 < Guerillero> burn 17:21 < Isarra> Ironholds: Sure there are. 17:21 < IShadowed__> Cherise Sinclair is decent. 17:21 < Isarra> Siberian elms may only last 50 years, but they get pretty big before falling over on people's cars. 17:22 < Ironholds> you get siberian elms in the desert? 17:22 < Isarra> This isn't just desert, it's high altitude desert! 17:22 < Isarra> Mongolia ain't too wet either, you know. 17:23 < BarkingFish> Snowolf, you free for a second please? 17:23 < Ironholds> so it's a wretched, sun-drenched hellhole with less oxygen than is ideal 17:23 * Ironholds crosses Colorado off his list-of-places-to-experience 17:23 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:23 < Isarra> Yup. 17:23 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:24 * Fluffernutter went to colorado once 17:24 < Fluffernutter> it was unremarkable 17:24 < geniice> Isarra Siberian elms have nothing on Leyland Cypress 17:24 < Isarra> It does have a lot of grass sometimes, though. 17:24 < Ironholds> eh. I like my environ to be wet. 17:24 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24 < Ironholds> "a lot of grass sometimes" - sometimes is the keyword. 17:24 < Guerillero> pikes peak was cool 17:25 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:25 < Isarra> geniice: Don't think those would grow very well here. 17:25 < Isarra> Siberian elms are mostly notable because they actually survive. 17:25 < geniice> Isarra they thrive in the UK 17:25 < Isarra> Which is really wet. 17:25 < Isarra> This ain't. 17:26 -!- Jmajeremy is now known as Jmajeremy|Away 17:26 < Guerillero> are you from liberal Colorado or focus on the family conservative Colorado isarra 17:26 < Isarra> We have really tiny cacti here. 17:26 < Fluffernutter> crazypants colorado> 17:26 < Isarra> I'm from snarl at political people Colorado. 17:27 < geniice> cacti tend not to grow in the UK. They rot 17:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> colorado has pants? 17:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> geniice I disagree 17:27 < Fluffernutter> unless they all walk around naked, it does@ 17:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> have you seen the house of commons lately? 17:27 < Fluffernutter> why is my punctuation so bored tonight... 17:27 < Isarra> If they get bigger than a few centimeters here they freeze too much. 17:27 < Fluffernutter> *borked 17:27 < Fluffernutter> dammit, keyboard 17:27 < Guerillero> lol 17:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dont blame the keyboard, blame democrats 17:27 < Guerillero> why not republicans 17:27 < Isarra> And the keyboard. 17:27 < Isarra> And the keyboard. 17:28 < Ironholds> how about we blame the keyboard on its own like sensible people? 17:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Guerillero because republicans may actually shot you 17:28 < Fluffernutter> it's clearly the republicans breaking into my apartment and changing around my keyboard to match their morals 17:28 -!- Austin_Moon [b5b60ca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.181.182.12.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds no one here is sensable, be serious 17:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p 17:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutterrepublicans have morals? 17:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> news to me 17:28 < Guerillero> i work for their favorite organization so my chances of getting shot go down 17:29 < Fluffernutter> you work for the NRA? 17:29 < Isarra> Can you get me a gun? 17:29 < Ironholds> the scouts 17:29 < Ironholds> Isarra: dammit, I want to go shooting now. 17:29 < Fluffernutter> scouts is only, like, third-favorite 17:29 < WilliamH_UK> the army? 17:29 * Ironholds adds it to his to-do list for his next holiday 17:29 < Bsadowski1> what i 17:29 < Bsadowski1> Ironholds 17:29 < Ironholds> ...eh? 17:29 < Guerillero> ironholds has it right 17:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds you want to shoot scouts? 17:30 < Guerillero> :o 17:30 < geniice> remember any gun that is man portable isn't worth shooting 17:30 < Bsadowski1> Surely you don't mean the Scout from Team Fortress 2? 17:30 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~tony@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:30 < Guerillero> The Boy Scouts of America 17:30 < Ironholds> geniice: you say that as someone who hasn't gone shooting enough 17:31 < Ironholds> mind you, I have no idea where I'm next going on holiday 17:31 < Ironholds> somewhere in the US, mos def. 17:31 * Guerillero needs to go up to the range again 17:31 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:31 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Guerillero why not Girl Scouts? 17:31 < Tony_Sidaway> Trout Fishing In America 17:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway America 17:31 < Guerillero> they are evil and liberal if you listen to people up at camp 17:31 < geniice> Ironholds you've never got your hands on artillery then 17:31 < Tony_Sidaway> Tony Sidaway in America 17:31 < Fluffernutter> the girls scouts support equal rights and stuff 17:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway are you excited? 17:32 < Fluffernutter> we can't have that in america 17:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> precisely 5 hours remain 17:32 < Isarra> We can have angry people with guns, though. 17:32 < Isarra> It all works out. 17:32 < Bsadowski1> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2012_Oak_Creek_shooting&diff=prev&oldid=505988302 17:32 < Bsadowski1> :| 17:32 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: only excited about Curiosity Rover. 17:33 < IShadowed__> Bsadowski1, rollback, unfounded 17:33 < Guerillero> i need to use my 30-30 before i go off to college 17:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway exactly 17:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 5 hours for its landing 17:33 < Bsadowski1> I know, ishadowed. 17:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you can watch it live :) 17:33 < Bsadowski1> http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/7-killed-including-gunman-in-shooting-at-wisconsin-sikh-temple/2012/08/05/70692158-df2b-11e1-a19c-fcfa365396c8_story.html 17:33 < Bsadowski1> :O 17:34 < Bsadowski1> "Sikh men tend to stand out because of their beards and colorful turbans, which are ritually wrapped around uncut hair, and leaders in the community say they are sometimes confused with Muslims and viewed with suspicion. " 17:34 < Isarra> Let's see... should I set up a pile of wikis just to see how quickly I can explode them, or should I do something useful? 17:34 < LtNOWIS> yeah if he had used an AR-15 I would definitely get some medium-capacity magazines for fear of a ban. 17:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://tinyurl.com/cac8jjy 17:34 * Isarra starts braiding IShadowed__'s hair instead. 17:34 < Ironholds> Isarra, IShadowed, get a room ;p 17:34 < LtNOWIS> There's a pretty nice Sikh temple in San Jose I think 17:34 < IShadowed__> pfft 17:35 < Isarra> What, you afraid of a little plaiting? 17:35 < Tony_Sidaway> Oh the Sikh Temple shooting thing. Must dive off to a news site and read up on that. 17:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Bsadowski1 I am amazed how washington post is allowed to write such racist crap 17:35 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35 < Bsadowski1> How is that racist? 17:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well 17:35 < LtNOWIS> ... 17:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> consider how it is worded 17:35 < Bsadowski1> It's descripting what they wear. 17:35 < Ironholds> Isarra: I cannot think of a response to that except "I demand you plait my hair" 17:35 < Bsadowski1> describing* 17:35 < Ironholds> because I don't actually know anyone who can plait 17:35 < IShadowed__> my hair isn't much at a good braiding length, noww 17:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it almost reads like shooting muslims would be legitemate 17:36 < Isarra> IShadowed__: It's too short. 17:36 < Isarra> Ironholds* 17:36 < Isarra> sorry. 17:36 < Ironholds> I need to grow it for next year's halloween costume anyway. 17:36 < LtNOWIS> Well a very large portion of attacks on Sikhs are due to their confusion with Muslims 17:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> even so 17:36 < Guerillero> it is sad 17:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the text should read like how hate crimes are covered 17:37 < Guerillero> sikhs are fairly peaceful 17:37 * IShadowed__ confuses Guerillero for a muslim 17:37 * IShadowed__ surprise attacks 17:37 < Tony_Sidaway> Still to early to say anything about the Sikh shooting as yet. 17:37 < Guerillero> :o 17:37 < Isarra> I need a halloween costume. 17:37 < IShadowed__> sexy nurse 17:37 < Guerillero> and I am a quaker 17:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Guerillero so are vast majority of muslims 17:37 < Guerillero> i know 17:37 < Isarra> I'm not sexy, unfortunately. 17:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or vast majority of any people 17:37 < Isarra> I could do unsexy nurse, though. 17:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> excluding wikipedians, that group is vicious 17:38 < Ironholds> Isarra: you're pretty sexy, to be fair 17:38 < Bsadowski1> Prove it. 17:38 < LtNOWIS> Sikhs have a long history of being excellent fighters 17:38 < Ironholds> you could come as a faerie queen, which would require absolutely zero dressing up 17:38 < Ironholds> on the grounds that you normally look like one of the fey folk anyhoo 17:39 < Guerillero> are her ears pointed? 17:39 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:39 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39 < Bsadowski1> Hobbit? 17:39 < Bsadowski1> :O 17:39 < Isarra> Guerillero: Plastic surgeon said no. 17:39 < Guerillero> darn 17:39 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:39 < Ironholds> hah 17:39 * Isarra sniffles. 17:39 * Ironholds hugs Isarra 17:39 < Ironholds> there there. you've still got the scary cloak. 17:40 < Guerillero> i must go to wikimania next year 17:40 < Ironholds> yay! 17:41 < Ironholds> are you bringing your beard? 17:41 < Guerillero> i will be of age in Taiwan 17:41 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.182.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:41 < Guerillero> no 17:41 < Isarra> How is it you people can afford this? 17:41 < Ironholds> aww 17:41 * Isarra pouts. 17:41 < Isarra> And how much would it cost to fly from finland to hong kong? 17:41 < Frood> bout tree fiddy 17:41 < Ironholds> Isarra: why finland? 17:41 < Isarra> ...because. 17:41 < Isarra> >.> 17:41 < Guerillero> what is in finland 17:42 < Frood> Linus Torvalds is from Finland I think. 17:42 < Guerillero> hmm 17:42 < Ironholds> Isarra: tell! 17:42 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:42 < Isarra> ...someone. 17:42 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:42 < Guerillero> so were the girls who appeared in our camp site ever night at the world jamboree 17:42 < Frood> Isarra has a boyfriend in Finland. 17:42 < Isarra> He's sexy. 17:43 < Frood> :O 17:43 < Isarra> XD 17:43 < Ironholds> the hell is my screwdriver 17:43 * Isarra hugs Frood. 17:43 < Tony_Sidaway> Guerillero: hey, my daughter is a regular visitor at our local Friends Meeting House. 17:43 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:43 -!- andrewcrawford [~andrewcra@cpc3-cast8-2-0-cust294.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:43 < Guerillero> cool :) I like out meeting house near school 17:44 -!- Dragonfly6-7 [~test@bas1-montreal48-1176173637.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:44 < Ironholds> 2am is totally a good time to be building furniture 17:44 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44 < Dragonfly6-7> anyone here speak spanish? 17:44 < Tony_Sidaway> I recommended British Quakers to her, as a fellow atheist, when she said she wanted to try to believe in God. 17:44 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:44 < Ironholds> iberian or mexican? 17:44 < Isarra> So I was talking to an old friend and he seemed genuinely astounded that 'they actually let' me edit wikipedia. 17:44 < Dragonfly6-7> Either will do, I think 17:44 < Ironholds> Dragonfly6-7: nope 17:44 < Isarra> I need a retort. 17:45 -!- andrewcrawford [~andrewcra@cpc3-cast8-2-0-cust294.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:45 < Ironholds> Isarra: "I'm genuinely astounded they let you breathe" 17:45 < Isarra> And I can mangle spanish. Does that work? 17:45 * Isarra hits Ironholds with a frying pan. 17:45 < Ironholds> ...thanks 17:45 < Guerillero> we are less scary than many other christian groups 17:45 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:45 < Ironholds> unless you're gay 17:46 < Ironholds> in which case you are PRECISELY as scary as many other christian groups ;p 17:46 < Dragonfly6-7> Isarra - enwiki's article on Dr. Asch talks about Dr Asch's amazing medical achievements, as well as his criminal activities and flight from prosecution. Eswiki's article only talks about his amazing medical achievements. 17:46 < Tony_Sidaway> Guerillero: well it really helped a lot that the Quakers are one of several religious groups in the UK that have been pushing hard for the law to be changed to permit them to marry same-sex partners in their houses of worship. 17:47 < Dragonfly6-7> (yes, all of that is properly supported; the revelation of his criminal activities led to a Pulitzer prize, and to several regulatory reforms) 17:47 < Tony_Sidaway> She is very much my daughter in that respect. 17:47 < Dragonfly6-7> and I think it should be in eswiki too, but I can't add content to eswiki because I can't write Spanish worth shit. 17:47 < Isarra> Oh. 17:47 < Isarra> Writing isn't so good for me. 17:47 < Dragonfly6-7> Okay. Thanks anyway. 17:47 < Tony_Sidaway> (And her mother's daughter--my wife feels the same way) 17:48 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:49 -!- WhiskerBiscuit [~WhiskerBi@c-69-143-18-31.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:49 < yutsi> lol 17:49 < yutsi> SentryBot> User [[User:Yutsi]], Possible gibberish? [[User:Yutsi/huggle.css]] (1801) Diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AYutsi/huggle.css&diff=505992223&oldid=505991477 "Updating configuration ([[WP:HG|HG]])" 17:49 < Isarra> Looks like the spanish one needs formatting, too. 17:50 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:50 < Guerillero> Tony_Sidaways: the progrssiveness of the quakers is one of the reasons I became a convinced friend 17:51 < Ironholds> too many screws 17:51 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:51 < Guerillero> would anyone like blueberry and raspberry cheesecake? 17:51 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:51 < Fluffernutter> fun fact: Lays "Classic BLT" flavored potato chips taste disturbingly like a BLT 17:51 < Dragonfly6-7> 'disturbingly' ? 17:51 < Ironholds> fun fact; everything Lays make tastes like SHIT 17:51 < Fluffernutter> yes 17:52 < yutsi> Huggle's weird 17:52 < Guerillero> how so 17:52 < Ironholds> ...I screwed one of the sides on wrong, didn't I. 17:52 < Ironholds> fucks sakes. 17:52 < Isarra> yutsi: It's IE. 17:52 < Isarra> Of course it's weird. 17:52 < Tony_Sidaway> Guerillero: yeah, it's the most attractive thing for me too. I seriously considered Quakerism. I love the meetings. A whole hour of silent contemplation in the company of friends? Love it! 17:54 < mysterytrey> IE? As in Internet Explorer? 17:54 -!- Soapy [Soap@wikipedia/soap] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:54 < yutsi> I think Isarra means that Huggle uses the IE engine 17:54 < yutsi> which is a programming faux pas 17:54 < mysterytrey> Oh I was about to say "What has this planet come to?" 17:55 < yutsi> you should say that 17:56 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56 < yutsi> Ironholds: potato chips are ftw 17:56 < mysterytrey> yutsi: You got huggle. So, are you going to hide a laptop in your binder when school starts? 17:56 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:56 < Tony_Sidaway> I haven't used IE enough to know whether it's good or bad (ignoring rumours) but isn't a major problem with IE that it's Windows-only and, largely, x86-only? 17:56 < Ironholds> yutsi: you just keep churning out reasons for me to hate you 17:56 < IShadowed__> ^ 17:56 < yutsi> lol I might get a netbook and put h4x0r OS (read:Linux) on it. 17:56 < yutsi> and then bring it to school 17:56 < IShadowed__> .... 17:57 < IShadowed__> aaaaaand 17:57 < IShadowed__> yeah. 17:57 < IShadowed__> all pity is gone. 17:57 < yutsi> Who doesn't like potato chips? They're terribly for you, but occasionally they're nice to have 17:57 < Tony_Sidaway> yutsi: er wot? 17:57 < IShadowed__> I really do think this chump is 10 years old. 17:57 < IShadowed__> There is no other way.. 17:57 < yutsi> gtfo IRC 17:57 < yutsi> twitter.com/darthyutsi 17:57 < Frood> it'd be easier to just set up vnc... 17:57 < yutsi> That's me 17:57 < Frood> yutsi: linking to that is probably a bad idea 17:57 < IShadowed__> I sat next to you 17:58 < IShadowed__> Listened to you for an hour 17:58 < Tony_Sidaway> Seriously if your school is saying it has a say in which OS you put on your own computer, find another school. 17:58 < yutsi> Frood: That's a public twitter 17:58 < IShadowed__> See your comments on wiki and here 17:58 < IShadowed__> Surely you're not 15 17:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway there is an easier solution 17:58 < Fluffernutter> IShadowed, i think this horse is well dead 17:58 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has left #wikipedia-en ["parted"] 17:58 < yutsi> No, Tony, it's just that their computers are terribly outdated, so I prefer to bring my laptop 17:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> install some other os secretly at night to all school computers 17:58 < IShadowed__> Fluffernutter, hush you 17:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and watch the chaos the next day 17:58 < IShadowed__> I enjoy beating dead horses 17:58 < IShadowed__> and diskc 17:58 < yutsi> However, my laptop is a bit bulky, so I fancy buying a netbook for school 17:58 < IShadowed__> well that failed 17:58 < IShadowed__> dicks* 17:59 < yutsi> IShadowed__: good, you beat your dick, and I'll be huggling. 17:59 < Fluffernutter> .. 17:59 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59 < yutsi> :D 17:59 * IShadowed__ smirk 17:59 < IShadowed__> Kid has no idea. 17:59 < Tony_Sidaway> yutsi: okay sorry I went off half-cocked there. 17:59 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:59 < yutsi> no prob 17:59 < Fluffernutter> were there any good olympic events today? 17:59 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Client Quit] 17:59 < Frood> Fluffernutter: No. 17:59 < Fluffernutter> or just beach volleyball nonstop? 17:59 < yutsi> IShadowed__: You know, you're only a few years older than me 17:59 < Guerillero> track 18:00 < Tony_Sidaway> Olympic Borising. 18:00 < yutsi> I missed beach volleyball? :( 18:00 < Ironholds> "h4x0r OS (read:Linux)"? 18:00 < Guerillero> lol 18:00 < Ironholds> okay, somebody tell me I didn't just read that 18:00 * ToAruShiroiNeko catapults dead horses 18:00 < Ironholds> IShadowed, did I just read that? 18:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds you didnt reat THAT 18:00 < yutsi> lol I was joking 18:00 -!- WhiskerBiscuit [~WhiskerBi@c-69-143-18-31.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:00 < Ironholds> And when did we start running broadband connections to kindergardens, exactly/ 18:00 < Tony_Sidaway> Competitors don a blonde wig and try to make speeches while stuck on a line threaded between two trees in Hyde Park. 18:00 < IShadowed__> yutsi, you have no idea.. 18:01 < Ironholds> whose hellish and dumbassed policy decision WAS that? can we have them shot? 18:01 < yutsi> Plus, Linux *is* the ideal OS for hacking. 18:01 < IShadowed__> Ironholds, my thoughts exactly 18:01 < WhiskerBiscuit> whats the wig for? 18:01 < Guerillero> oh god 18:01 < BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, Did you see the poll on MSN UK? "Following his work and involvement in the Olympics, would you be prepared to vote Tory if Boris Johnson was leader?" 18:01 < Ironholds> yutsi: correct! it is the best OS for modifying software. 18:01 < BarkingFish> Over 69% of people said yes :) 18:01 * Ironholds claps 18:01 < Frood> Ironholds: i have to disagree 18:01 < yutsi> http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html 18:01 < Ironholds> Frood: yeah, most of the devs I know use macs 18:01 < Frood> Yeah 18:01 < Frood> OS X is good for development 18:01 < Frood> s/good/great/ 18:01 < Ironholds> "A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems " - yutsi, tits are NOT a programmable system 18:01 < Tony_Sidaway> WhiskerBiscuit: Boris Johnson is the Mayor of London (hence Borising) and is blonde and a loudmouth. 18:02 < Ironholds> you are not a hacker 18:02 < Guerillero> wikimania felt like a mac convention 18:02 < yutsi> Ironholds: XD 18:02 < Frood> They're both great, but in their own ways 18:02 < yutsi> I wish you could program girls! 18:02 < Ironholds> you are a twerp who thinks he's badass because he read the jargon files once and has the anarchist's cookbook on a USB pen 18:02 < Ironholds> one time? one time you visited the TOTSE dump! 18:02 < yutsi> I don't read the archist cookbook 18:02 < IShadowed__> ///// 18:02 < Ironholds> it was SO COOL! 18:02 < IShadowed__> ... 18:02 < Fluffernutter> "program girls"? 18:02 < Frood> Linux, imo, is better for webdev and scripting languages 18:02 < Frood> like python 18:02 < Ironholds> to be fair, TOTSE is fun 18:02 < IShadowed__> yeah cause you can't get any 18:02 < Fluffernutter> christ on a cracker 18:02 -!- diegogrez_ [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:02 < Ironholds> not so much for the crazy conspiracy theories as the almost hilariously bad erotica 18:02 < Frood> OS X, on the other hand, is better for things like C++, "desktop" languages 18:02 * Guerillero waits for yutsi to die 18:02 < yutsi> Ironholds: You're thinking of BBS-era stuff. I wasn't even alive when that stuff was popular 18:02 -!- Fredddie [~Eiddderf@wikipedia/Fredddie] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:02 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: yeah I'm never going to vote Tory but he is absolutely the best and the worst advert (on different topics) for the Tories. 18:03 -!- MTCD|Away [~methecool@2001:41d0:8:112b::1] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:03 < Tony_Sidaway> I really love the bloke. 18:03 < yutsi> 4chan has momentary lapses of awesomeness, before becoming a cesspool of piss yet again 18:03 < Guerillero> le sigh 18:03 < Guerillero> you seem to be 12 and ickle 18:03 < Fredddie> yutsi: I wouldn't go that far 18:04 < yutsi> ickle? 18:04 < Fredddie> it's more like the wind shifts and you can't smell the piss, so you don't mind it 18:04 < Tony_Sidaway> "There's this guy called Mitt Romney, who says we're not ready. Are we ready?" 18:04 < yutsi> lol That sounds right 18:04 < Soapy> ickle = british childish word for little 18:04 < yutsi> oh 18:04 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@wikipedia/Accedie] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> or icky 18:04 < Tony_Sidaway> I cannot dislike a politician with such a grasp of the zeitgeist. 18:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> meany yuck 18:04 < yutsi> You brits and your terminology 18:04 < Fluffernutter> Guerillero is turning metric! Run! 18:05 < WhiskerBiscuit> Probably a Steelrs fan 18:05 < Fredddie> there's nothing wrong with being a Steelers fan D: 18:05 < yutsi> Football's lame 18:05 < Fredddie> I've at least come to terms with the fact that our QB is a dirtbag 18:05 < Ironholds> IShadowed: +1 18:05 < WhiskerBiscuit> Fredddie: Who cares if he;s a dirtbag. Win 18:06 < IShadowed__> what'd I do 18:06 < Ironholds> IShadowed: facebook 18:06 < Guerillero> I am a pens fan thank you very much 18:06 < IShadowed__> ah 18:06 < WhiskerBiscuit> Let's go Caps 18:06 < Fredddie> I used to like the Avs, but they started sucking 18:06 < Fredddie> so I usually go for whoever is playing the Red Wings 18:07 < yutsi> Alright, I've given up on Huggle. I'm more efficient on STiki, anyways. 18:07 < Frood> IShadowed__: +1 18:07 < IShadowed__> you're more efficient playing with the other little boys and girls outside 18:08 * Guerillero likes the facebook-wikipedia network 18:08 < IShadowed__> <3 18:08 * Tony_Sidaway just spent a minute working out that in context (Steelers) QB means "Quarterback". 18:08 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:08 < Guerillero> sorry 18:08 < Tony_Sidaway> Probably. 18:08 < Guerillero> you are right 18:08 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:08 < Fredddie> yes Tony 18:08 < Tony_Sidaway> Now shut up and talk cockney for gawds sikes. 18:08 < Guerillero> however tony, you do know what a hooker is 18:08 < WhiskerBiscuit> ullo govnuh 18:08 < Fredddie> roight 18:08 < Guerillero> so 5 points for you 18:09 < WhiskerBiscuit> wankuh 18:09 < Tony_Sidaway> Guerillero: I do. It's a chap who does nasty things on the rugger pitch. 18:09 < WhiskerBiscuit> I love the word differences 18:09 < Guerillero> yep 18:09 < Fredddie> that's actually correct in more than one context 18:09 < Fredddie> nice! 18:09 < WhiskerBiscuit> My favorite is "fanny pack" 18:09 < Tony_Sidaway> He has to get in there and hook the ball out. 18:10 < Guerillero> I am glad I am too tall to hook 18:10 * Guerillero is a lock 18:10 < Tony_Sidaway> So ladies, if your fanny pack goes missing in the scrum, look out for the hooker. 18:10 < IShadowed__> .. 18:10 < WhiskerBiscuit> ha 18:11 < IShadowed__> what if I AM the hooker 18:11 < Fluffernutter> iwhut 18:11 < IShadowed__> OHHH plot twist 18:11 < Ironholds> IShadowed: there's no if 18:11 < Ironholds> you're going to be a hooker 18:11 < Ironholds> not a very SUCCESSFUL one 18:11 < Ironholds> but a hooker 18:11 < IShadowed__> wow that's terribly cold. 18:11 * Fluffernutter slips IShadowed a $20 18:11 < Ironholds> (sorry, just came back, no idea what's being discussed. I just wanted to insult IShadowed) 18:12 < IShadowed__> Flueeh will patronize me 18:12 < IShadowed__> we gon make sweet luvs 18:12 < Tony_Sidaway> Fanny pack is called "bum bag" or used to be when these awful things were popular oh about 20 years ago. 18:12 < Guerillero> I am trying to figure out if IH was discussing rugger 18:12 < Ironholds> oh god, I did not need that image 18:12 < Fluffernutter> s'ok Ironholds, she knows midgets have to just tall people harshly 18:12 < WhiskerBiscuit> Fluffer, what do you get for $20? 18:12 < Guerillero> i guess not 18:12 < IShadowed__> deal with it 18:12 < Ironholds> you're like, 3 feet taller than her 18:12 < IShadowed__> yus 18:12 < Frood> WhiskerBiscuit: not a whole lot 18:12 < Ironholds> it'd be like bring your child to work day gone HORRIBLY HORRIBLY WRONG 18:12 < Tony_Sidaway> So what exactly is a "bum fight"? 18:12 < IShadowed__> lmao 18:12 < Fluffernutter> haha 18:12 < WhiskerBiscuit> any-ting u want 18:12 * Fluffernutter hugs Ironholds and IShadowed 18:13 * Ironholds hugs Fluffernutter and IShadowed's left knee 18:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds not that horibly probably 18:13 < WhiskerBiscuit> bum fights are people paying hobos to fight 18:13 < Ironholds> technically Fluffernutter, and IShadowed's left knee 18:13 < Tony_Sidaway> I always had this pictureque idea of people slamming their arses together and shouting "bum fight" 18:13 < yutsi> hooker's are gross 18:13 < Fluffernutter> lol Tony_Sidaway 18:13 < yutsi> *hookers 18:13 < Ironholds> for the first sentence to parse you'd need to share a knee joint 18:13 < WhiskerBiscuit> and they record and upload them 18:13 < Fredddie> haha 18:13 < Frood> yutsi: hookers' what? 18:13 < Fluffernutter> yutsi: misused apostrophes are gros's 18:13 < yutsi> See correction^ 18:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway why isnt that an olympic track? 18:13 < Ironholds> yutsi: which you'd know given your extensive experience of paid sex 18:13 < Tony_Sidaway> But it turns out to have been something very nasty. Paying poor people to demean themselves. 18:13 < Ironholds> but, I agree. you ARE gross. 18:13 < yutsi> Ironholds: Stfu 18:13 < Ironholds> ooh, nice comeback 18:14 < LtNOWIS> I don't think hooker is a common term in the business. 18:14 < Ironholds> I think I'm bleeding a bit here. 18:14 < WhiskerBiscuit> Calling someone a whore isnt nice 18:14 < LtNOWIS> People prefer "escort" as a euphemism 18:14 < WhiskerBiscuit> whores provide a valuable service 18:14 < Frood> WhiskerBiscuit: but stating facts is okay 18:14 < yutsi> Ironholds: I don't know how to respond, b/c the statement was so blatantly wrong 18:14 < Ironholds> WhiskerBiscuit: up to 5 different services! depends how much you pay. 18:14 < WhiskerBiscuit> i just mean the word shouldnt be an insult 18:14 < Fredddie> at the store where I work, we used to have a hobo come by who wore a pro-wrestling championship belt 18:14 < Ironholds> yutsi: that would be because it was sarcasm. 18:15 < yutsi> Ironholds: [[WP:SARCASM]] 18:15 * IShadowed__ returns 18:15 < Tony_Sidaway> So many people say "hookers are gross", but you know they are responding to a seller's market. So who is gross? 18:15 < Frood> yutsi: [[WP:THISISNTWIKIPEDIA]] 18:15 < IShadowed__> WP:SUCKMYDICK 18:15 < yutsi> Frood: [[WP:DGAF]] 18:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> [[WP 18:15 < IShadowed__> ToAruShiroiNeko in inadequate 18:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> [[WP:GOF***YOURSELF]] 18:15 < IShadowed__> is* 18:15 < IShadowed__> :( 18:15 < LtNOWIS> it really depends on the individual 18:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> [[WP:GOF***YOURSELFHARDER]] 18:16 < Fluffernutter> [[WP:IMMASTARTBREAKINGHEADSIFYOUGUYSDONTBEHAVE]] 18:16 < yutsi> Guys, you have to cite actual pages on wikipedia 18:16 < Ironholds> mow there's another mental image I didn't need 18:16 < Tony_Sidaway> It's not the size of the template, it's how you use it. 18:16 < IShadowed__> WP:UNLUBEDASSRAPE 18:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> [[WP:FLUFFNUTTERHASSPOKEN]] 18:16 < Fluffernutter> mine should be a redir to ANI 18:16 < Frood> Fluffernutter: i'm terribly tempted to redirect that to the blocking policy page 18:16 < yutsi> fluffernutter: [[WP:POOP]] 18:16 * ToAruShiroiNeko may redirect that to aniu 18:16 < Fluffernutter> lol Frood 18:16 < IShadowed__> Fluffernutter, no, no, mine should be.. 18:16 < BarkingFish> On a totally different subject, does anyone know what template we use for collapsing a topic or something? 18:16 < Peter-C> Any admin wanan be awesome :3 18:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> [[WP:OMG]] 18:16 < WhiskerBiscuit> <collapse? 18:16 < Fluffernutter> BarkingFish: to collapse, or just to mark off as archived? 18:16 < Guerillero> {{hat}} 18:16 < yutsi> [[WP:STFU]] 18:16 < Guerillero> {{hab}} 18:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Avoid unnecessary jargon!? 18:17 < BarkingFish> to collapse it, Fluffernutter 18:17 < IShadowed__> God yutsi is such a virgin 18:17 < BarkingFish> thanks Guerillero 18:17 < Fluffernutter> Guerillero has it, I think 18:17 < Ironholds> mine would be WP:JABBERWOCK 18:17 < yutsi> IM GONNA K-LINE ALL YOUR ASSES 18:17 < Ironholds> I think we all know it 18:17 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: collapse top/collapse bottom I seem to recall. 18:17 < Ironholds> yutsi: sorry, you work for freenode now? 18:17 < Ironholds> no? then, no. 18:17 < Fluffernutter> Ironholds, they still don't want to see your vorpal sword 18:17 < yutsi> .KLINE IShadowed__ 18:17 < Ironholds> also, my ass doesn't have an IRC client 18:17 < IShadowed__> do it 18:17 < IShadowed__> ohwait 18:17 < yutsi> fine, g-line 18:17 < IShadowed__> you can't 18:17 < Ironholds> I could swallow a USB pen containing one 18:17 < Ironholds> and then my ass would briefly have an IRC client 18:17 < Frood> Fluffernutter: well, if I did I have a feeling people will get pissy at me 18:17 < yutsi> .mute IShadowed__ 18:17 < Ironholds> but it wouldn't be networked 18:17 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: nobody ever does. 18:18 < Ironholds> yutsi, either put her on ignore or shut the hell up posturing. 18:18 < yutsi> posturing? 18:18 < Frood> oh hey guys 18:18 < yutsi> ohai2u 18:18 < Ironholds> if we can see your damn commands, you're not inputting the commands. 18:18 < IShadowed__> he's too scared 18:18 < Fredddie> I thought I had a picture of that hobo with the belt 18:18 < yutsi> lol 18:18 < Frood> watch out, yutsi knows simple ircd commands that aren't even the correct syntax 18:18 < IShadowed__> lmao 18:18 < Ironholds> Frood: OH NOES 18:18 < Guerillero> :D 18:18 < yutsi> Frood: You got it. :D 18:18 < Ironholds> you realise what he can do with that kind of power?! 18:18 < Fluffernutter> sigh 18:18 < Ironholds> he can futilely fill our channel with junk! 18:18 < IShadowed__> Fluffernutter, hushu 18:18 < Ironholds> WOMEN AND CHILDREN OUT FIRST, THERE'S NO SAVING US. 18:18 < Maryana> why's everyone so riled up today? 18:18 -!- Ks0stm [~Ks0stm@wikipedia/Ks0stm] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:18 < BarkingFish> those links are redirects 18:18 < IShadowed__> lmao 18:18 < Frood> Ironholds: He can set up his own IRC network with nobody and kline them all! 18:18 < IShadowed__> <3 18:18 < yutsi> Yeah, and next I'll post ASCII art genitalia. lol 18:18 * Fluffernutter hides behind Maryana 18:19 < Fluffernutter> nice them to death, Maryana! 18:19 < jorm> i dunno. 18:19 < BarkingFish> i just imported redirects, i gotta use the right names for them 18:19 < Ironholds> Maryana: it's 2am and I have literally nothing to do but make fun of yutsi 18:19 * IShadowed__ is lying here gigglefitting madly 18:19 < Guerillero> thanks barkingfigh 18:19 < Ironholds> except build furniture. 18:19 < IShadowed__> stopits 18:19 < Frood> Maryana: Somebody russled this channel's jimmies. 18:19 < yutsi> lol 18:19 < jorm> my wife went to seattle this morning, so i'm in a a bad mood. 18:19 * Ironholds hugs jorm 18:19 < yutsi> WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE 18:19 < Ironholds> I mean, not actually hug you. because you scare the bejesus out of me. 18:19 < Ironholds> but, y'know. 18:19 < IShadowed__> your wife is banging Shirik|Ghost, then. That's what happens when people go to Seattle 18:19 < Fluffernutter> Frood: i'm usually fairly up on memes but the whole "rustle my jimmies" thing totally escapes me 18:19 < Tony_Sidaway> So two litres of coffee and you on this channel are supposed to keep me awake until the Curiosity landing? 18:19 < Ironholds> IShadowed: that seems unlikely. 18:19 < Ironholds> his wife is very nice 18:19 < Maryana> everybody cool it. or i will do exactly nothing. 18:19 < IShadowed__> cold 18:19 < Tony_Sidaway> I don't think I'll make it. 18:19 < yutsi> Frood: Stop rustlin' our jimmies! 18:20 < Fredddie> how long until the landing? 18:20 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@wikipedia/Accedie] has quit [Quit: AFK] 18:20 < yutsi> 2 hours 18:20 < yutsi> +10 mins 18:20 < Ironholds> is that what the kids are calling it these days> 18:20 < Ironholds> ? 18:20 < yutsi> calling what? 18:20 < IShadowed__> sex. 18:20 < Tony_Sidaway> No it's more like four hours I think. 18:20 < Fredddie> I'm married, there's no landing to be not spoken of 18:20 < BarkingFish> rut-roh... We haz problemz 18:20 < IShadowed__> you wouldn't know, 10 year olds are too young 18:20 -!- nenolod [~nenolod@atheme/member/pdpc.active.nenolod] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:20 < BarkingFish> I'm trying to import from enwp, and getting the foundation error - read timeout or something 18:21 < yutsi> IShadowed__: Are you going to WIkimania? 18:21 < Ironholds> yutsi, you've already goddamn met her at the last one. 18:21 < IShadowed__> next year? No. I was at this previous one. And met you. 18:21 < yutsi> yeah i know 18:21 < Ironholds> I'll be there! 18:21 < Ironholds> it should be fun 18:21 < Ironholds> s/fun/stupidly hot/g 18:21 < Frood> Ironholds: take me? 18:21 < Ironholds> like, seriously, can we hold it somewhere cold already? 18:21 < Ironholds> Frood: I'm flattered, but you're not my type. 18:21 < BarkingFish> 0.0 18:21 < yutsi> Then I'm gonna go to Harrisburg and... huggle your pet or something 18:21 < Tony_Sidaway> yutsi: you actually have met people on this channel? 18:21 < Frood> iowa is pretty cold the winter 18:21 < IShadowed__> have fun 18:21 < Frood> have wikimania in the winter and in iowa 18:21 < Ironholds> but it's IOWA. 18:21 < BarkingFish> Frood, I never knew you were that way inclined :P 18:21 < Fluffernutter> I'd settle for somehwhere where it's not 100F and 99% humidity 18:22 < yutsi> And if you don't own a pet, I'll wipe my shoes on your doormat 18:22 < Fredddie> hey, I'm in Iowa 18:22 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: scotland 18:22 < Frood> Fredddie: nowai 18:22 < Fluffernutter> yuss 18:22 < Fredddie> srsly 18:22 < Tony_Sidaway> I've known ToAruShiroiNeko online for 7 years and we've never met! 18:22 < yutsi> Tony_Sidaway: Yeah, at Wikimania. 18:22 < jorm> hong kong will be cool and with low humidity. 18:22 * Fluffernutter pictures jorm taking on glaswegian barkeeps, grins 18:22 < yutsi> Tony_Sidaway: Were you at Wikimania? 18:22 < Ironholds> seriously. I can see see it now. 18:22 < Frood> Where in IA? 18:22 < Ironholds> WIKIMANIA ABBOTS DEUGLIE 18:22 < Fredddie> Des Moines 18:22 < Ironholds> or we could hold it in Killiecrankie 18:22 < Frood> ooh 18:22 -!- Ks0stm [~Ks0stm@wikipedia/Ks0stm] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:23 < Frood> I was going to head there this weekend, but decided not to at the last moment 18:23 < yutsi> IShadowed__:Just give me your coordinates 18:23 -!- morgankevinj [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Morgankevinj] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:23 < Tony_Sidaway> yutsi: no, I helped to arrange the first London meet, but a whole bunch of geeks and nerds showed up so I haven't been back in 7 years. 18:23 < yutsi> ah 18:23 < yutsi> lol 18:23 < yutsi> Sounds right 18:23 < IShadowed__> no thanks, I don't fuck kids 18:23 < Ironholds> yutsi: I'd say "that sounded less creepy and stalky in your head", but, well, it probably didn't. 18:23 < yutsi> lol 18:23 < WhiskerBiscuit> [[WP:PMF]] 18:23 < Tony_Sidaway> I just hate meeting people like me. I am enough geek for one lifetime. 18:24 < yutsi> I just wanted to get her doormat dirty! 18:24 < WhiskerBiscuit> nice 18:24 < Frood> "dirty"... 18:24 < yutsi> lol 18:24 < yutsi> That sounds more like innuendo than i meant it to 18:24 < Frood> no it doesn't 18:24 < IShadowed__> Yeah.. 18:24 < Frood> you meant for it to sound that way and we all know it 18:24 < yutsi> IShadowed__'s not attractive. 18:25 < IShadowed__> says yutsi 18:25 < Tony_Sidaway> I hate it when people get my doormat dirty. 18:25 < yutsi> i acknowledge my unattractiveness 18:25 < yutsi> lol 18:25 -!- nenolod [~nenolod@atheme/member/pdpc.active.nenolod] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:25 < Tony_Sidaway> Can't they use the scraper outside? 18:25 < Frood> pretty sure that's not how you'll get a girlfriend. 18:25 -!- purplebackpack89 [476a94e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.106.148.228] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:25 < Fluffernutter> You will all stop talking, drink some tea, and eat some cookies. And then come back able to speak like real people. 18:25 < yutsi> Frood: What do you mean? 18:25 < IShadowed__> Flueeh shove it 18:25 < Frood> as your userpage suggests you like 18:25 < WhiskerBiscuit> here is the secret to what girls want 18:26 < Tony_Sidaway> I must get some coffee. 18:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> sincerity 18:26 < yutsi> Fluffernutter: I think you need to be more assertive 18:26 < yutsi> they want abs 18:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> and a big cock 18:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> :D 18:26 * Dragonfly6-7 passes Fluffernutter the chainsaw 18:26 < Fluffernutter> heh 18:26 < IShadowed__> medium. 18:26 < IShadowed__> Medium. 18:26 < Peter-C> Dragonfly6-7 - wanna help me with something :3 18:26 < Fredddie> WhiskerBiscuit: ding ding 18:26 < yutsi> Medium cock is fail cock 18:26 < IShadowed__> no. 18:26 < yutsi> I'm just not muscular at all. 18:26 < IShadowed__> medium is yes-you-can-put-that-in-me-without-killing-me cock 18:26 < WhiskerBiscuit> yeah, shadowed is correct 18:27 < yutsi> IShadowed__: I thought you were lesbian, anyways. 18:27 < Guerillero> off the subject 18:27 < IShadowed__> no. 18:27 < yutsi> Oh 18:27 < yutsi> kk 18:27 < yutsi> ... 18:27 < IShadowed__> I'm a whore. Bi. 18:27 < yutsi> ohhhhhhh 18:27 * IShadowed__ samples them all 18:27 < Frood> ...what 18:27 < Dragonfly6-7> Peter-C - not particularly, but what is it? 18:27 < Frood> for some reason this Netgear Genie app 18:27 < Frood> has a QR code scanner 18:27 < Frood> not for anything in particular 18:28 < Frood> just a general scanner 18:28 < Peter-C> Dragonfly6-7 - a quick moving of an article to mainspace 18:28 < yutsi> btw Frood: You stalk my userpage? :O 18:28 < The_Thing> 4 more hours 18:28 < IShadowed__> no.. 18:28 < Peter-C> The article is already created BUT it is a redirect 18:28 < yutsi> that userbox is alllll the way at the bottom 18:28 < Peter-C> I have a nice article ready to replace it 18:28 < Fluffernutter> whatis this thing everyone is staying awake for? 18:28 < Frood> yutsi: yes, i stalk annoying people's userpages to find out how to avoid them 18:29 < yutsi> Hey! 18:29 < Frood> Fluffernutter: new Mars Rover landing 18:29 < Fluffernutter> ahh 18:29 < WhiskerBiscuit> oh yeah 18:29 < WhiskerBiscuit> what time is that 18:29 < yutsi> Frood: So, don't be a prospective girlfriend. And be ultra-conservative 18:29 < ceradon> dafuq 18:29 < Fredddie> who is covering the landing? 18:29 < WhiskerBiscuit> And the new rover will be playing porn 18:29 < Dragonfly6-7> Frood - it landed intact?! 18:29 < Frood> Dragonfly6-7: it hasn't landed yet. 18:29 < Fluffernutter> Frood is my prospective girlfriend 18:29 < IShadowed__> ... 18:29 < Frood> TIL I'm a female. 18:29 < yutsi> Isn't Frood a dude? 18:29 < IShadowed__> HEY 18:30 < yutsi> lol 18:30 < ceradon> ... 18:30 < IShadowed__> bitch. 18:30 < Fluffernutter> IShadowed is my already-girlfriend 18:30 < WhiskerBiscuit> Frood not a d00d 18:30 < Frood> i dunno, pretty sure I have a penis. 18:30 < IShadowed__> oh, ok 18:30 < Fluffernutter> also i might marry this riesling 18:30 < WhiskerBiscuit> thats a giant clit 18:30 < IShadowed__> this is now acceptable 18:30 < yutsi> Frood: If you're only pretty sure that means that it's too small. [[Micropenis]] 18:30 < WhiskerBiscuit> 30 minutes to breaking bad.. 18:30 < WhiskerBiscuit> screw the olympics tonight 18:30 < The_Thing> http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v=qSnoitsXpF0&s=802&e=826 18:30 < Frood> no personal attacks pls 18:30 < BarkingFish> ok Guerillero - I need your help.. If hat and hab are supposed to close a discussion and collapse it, it's not working. 18:30 < yutsi> not personal attack 18:31 < Guerillero> oh 18:31 < yutsi> its an actual medical issue 18:31 < Guerillero> link please 18:31 < BarkingFish> Yeah, it's not on enwp - but if you can help, I'd appreciate it - http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Haus_bilong_toktok#Notification_to_community_for_opt-out_of_Global_Sysop_program 18:31 < BarkingFish> Don't worry, it's in english 18:31 -!- NEWLIFE [NEWLIFE@105.133.40.181] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:32 < WhiskerBiscuit> jesus.. YRC EW on his rfc? 18:32 < BarkingFish> i imported the whole thing - hat and hab, and all associated and transcluded templates from enwp in one go 18:32 -!- andrewcrawford [~andrewcra@cpc3-cast8-2-0-cust294.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:32 < Guerillero> hmm 18:32 < Guerillero> I don't know 18:32 < Guerillero> it works here 18:33 < WhiskerBiscuit> BarkingFish: find out what wiki version they are using 18:33 < NEWLIFE> HI ALL 18:33 < Frood> HI NEWLIFE 18:33 < WhiskerBiscuit> hi capslock user 18:33 -!- lubmil [~lubmil@89-67-33-69.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: noc, ppa] 18:33 < ceradon> ... 18:33 < WhiskerBiscuit> err NEWLIFE 18:33 < ceradon> hi NEWLIFE 18:34 -!- Frood is now known as BILLYMAYS 18:34 < BarkingFish> WhiskerBiscuit, 1.20wmf8 18:34 < BILLYMAYS> oh. 18:34 < Fluffernutter> so many caps 18:34 < BILLYMAYS> i meant to do /ns info 18:34 < BILLYMAYS> but this works 18:34 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: I do or used to do a vast amount of hatting and collapsing on various talk pages but you never get used to it. If in doubt I look for a contentious talk page and look at how they do it there. 18:34 -!- ceradon is now known as CERADON 18:34 < CERADON> Mhmmm 18:34 -!- BILLYMAYS is now known as Frood 18:34 < BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, I know how to use the template, I just read our docs on it. 18:34 -!- IShadowed__ is now known as ishadowed_ 18:34 < CERADON> Nah 18:34 -!- CERADON is now known as ceradon 18:35 < Frood> ishadowed_: _ should be - 18:35 -!- ishadowed_ is now known as PantyDropper 18:35 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: okay, is it fucked? 18:35 < BarkingFish> It says to use {{hat|reason=whatever|closer=whoever}} at the top, and just {{hab}} at the bottom 18:35 < PantyDropper> yes, I have this registered. 18:35 -!- WilliamH_UK [~WilliamH_@Wikipedia/WilliamH] has quit [] 18:35 < Guerillero> oh god 18:35 < BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, quite possibly. I imported it directly from enwp using Special:Import and placed it in our Template space 18:35 < yutsi> BarkingFish, what language is that??? 18:36 < Guerillero> that is the name of the aoii's jungle juice at my school 18:36 < BarkingFish> yutsi, Tok Pisin - Pidgin English creole, used in Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands 18:36 -!- ceradon [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has quit [Quit: *poof*] 18:37 < Fluffernutter> I think it's officialy a creole, which evolved from a pidgin. But now i have to go look it up and see if I'm right. </linguisticswank> 18:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> BarkingFish: {{hat|this shit is collapsed}} 18:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> BarkingFish: shit goes here 18:37 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: my apologies. I was missing the context in which you're using the template. 18:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> BarkingFish: {{hab}} 18:37 -!- NEWLIFE is now known as newlife 18:37 -!- newlife [NEWLIFE@105.133.40.181] has quit [] 18:37 < BarkingFish> WhiskerBiscuit, yeah, that's how I've used it. 18:37 < WhiskerBiscuit> BarkingFish: look at this diff. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=505452491 18:37 < Fluffernutter> yay i was right. score one for not-forgetting-everything-i-learned-in-grad-school 18:38 < WhiskerBiscuit> Got nothing then. Maybe they don't have their templates installed 18:38 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: no doubt you've checked the source of the template to see what other templates it needs. 18:38 < WhiskerBiscuit> or theones you are using 18:38 -!- Cassie [~dan@wikipedia/deskana] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 18:38 < WhiskerBiscuit> Fluffernutter: I've only used stuff from one course in grad school 18:38 < WhiskerBiscuit> SQL queries was a good class 18:38 < BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, on Special:Import, there's an option to tick to include all pages used by the template 18:39 < BarkingFish> So it autoimports everything the template either uses or has transcluded to it 18:39 < BarkingFish> I am however, going to import Collapse top and bottom as well 18:40 < BarkingFish> brb# 18:41 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: there may be some other parameters of the destination wiki that override normal behaviour. Remember that pagespace references may not match up (no idea how template import handles that). 18:41 -!- Ks0stm [~Ks0stm@wikipedia/Ks0stm] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: also: mediawiki version number. 18:42 < BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, 1.20wmf8 18:42 < BarkingFish> which iirc is the latest one 18:42 -!- Ks0stm [~Ks0stm@wikipedia/Ks0stm] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:42 < BarkingFish> that's collapse top done, just bottom to get now and i'll try again 18:43 < BarkingFish> and that's bottom in 18:43 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: excellent work! 18:44 -!- Jmajeremy|Away is now known as Jmajeremy 18:44 < BarkingFish> and collapse doesn't work either. 18:44 < BarkingFish> Myxzptlk. 18:45 -!- IDoH [~I@174-125-80-172.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:45 -!- IDoH [~I@174-125-80-172.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:45 -!- IDoH [~I@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:45 < BarkingFish> Fuck on a flagpole. 18:45 * BarkingFish headdesks and kicks his pc 18:47 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: well let's go back to first principles: these templates work by manipulating the visibility of CSS classes, usually. 18:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Fuck on a flagpole? interesting idea 18:47 < Tony_Sidaway> So you need to look at what your browser is telling you about the CSS state of the English Wikipedis pages and the destination pages. 18:48 < BarkingFish> I have no idea how to do that whatsoever Tony_Sidaway 18:48 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: depends on your browser. 18:48 -!- PantyDropper is now known as IShadowed_ 18:49 < Tony_Sidaway> But also bear in mind that the root problem is the way the wiki in question arranges its CSS stylesheets. So delving into the enwiki stylesheets and the equivalents on other wikis will help. 18:50 < Tony_Sidaway> But seriously at this point you need to go to #mediawiki and ask for pointers. 18:50 -!- LtNOWIS [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:51 -!- ikewi [~kiewii@5add557a.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: i no here.] 18:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh 18:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish->#mediawiki 18:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> proper use of pointers :3 18:51 < IDoH> Hey guys 18:52 -!- Ktr102 [183cd9f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.60.217.249] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:52 < IDoH> hey ktr 18:53 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: brief backgrounder: you can change the visibility of a bit of test by preceding it with "this is a heap of text I want to have a certain class" and followint it with "this is the end of that heap of text". And in the stylesheet, the class in question is set to have visibility:none. 18:54 -!- Antonorsi is now known as Anto|away 18:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> IDoH so you think friendship is magic? 18:54 < IDoH> Uhm, no, lol 18:54 < Tony_Sidaway> In some versions you provide a link enabling the reader to toggle visibility but that's just a slight variation. The main thing is that you need to control visibility through CSS classes. 18:54 < IDoH> You a brony? 18:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> nop 18:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you dream of horses after all 18:55 < diegogrez_> poto 18:55 < IDoH> Oh, okay, lol 18:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> see what I did there? 18:56 < IDoH> What did you do? 18:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no clue 18:56 < BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, A thought then- would that be covered by mediawiki Global CSS and Global JS? 18:57 < Tony_Sidaway> Curiosity Rover (BBC): "Touch-down is expected at 05:31 GMT (06:31 BST) Monday 6 August; 22:31 PDT, Sunday 5 August." 18:57 < BarkingFish> it might be physicially possible for me to nick enwp's Global CSS and Global JS files, and add them 18:57 < Tony_Sidaway> Sorry ToAruShiroiNeko, it's going to be a few hours yet. My clock says 0257 BST here. 18:58 -!- Luvbutrfly [~Luvbutrfl@pool-74-96-254-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:58 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: it's been years since I looked at Mediawiki CSS layout structure. Ask a software expert on the appropriate channel. 18:58 < purplebackpack89> luciferwildcat is still here? 18:59 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:00 -!- Wehwalt [4462af34@wikipedia/Wehwalt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:00 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:01 -!- IDoH [~I@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has left #wikipedia-en [] 19:01 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:01 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: if at all possible, create a local instance of mediawiki and try out any experiments there. Stylesheet changes can radically alter the way a website works, so please test before applying to a public wiki. 19:02 < BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, I can't really do that here. Last time I set up a wiki it took me 4 days and a trip to the doctors. Won't be doing that again in a hurry :) 19:03 < Tony_Sidaway> BarkingFish: well maybe you need some technical help. I used to run a local mediawiki instance on my rather old second-hand laptop back when laptops weren't very powerful. 19:04 < BarkingFish> I'm asking in #mediawiki 19:04 < Tony_Sidaway> Good man. 19:04 < BarkingFish> assuming that anyone in there is awake 19:05 < Guerillero> its only 10 PM est 19:05 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:05 < BarkingFish> yeah, but it's gone 3AM here 19:05 < Tony_Sidaway> Is Lady Gage participating in the Olympics? And if not, why not? 19:06 < Guerillero> i assume most programers for mediawiki are from the us 19:06 < BarkingFish> Tony_Sidaway, yes. She's the springboard in the lady's gymnastics. or at least, i hope so 19:06 < jeremyb> BarkingFish: did you get philippe? 19:07 < BarkingFish> jeremyb, no, I didn't. I just wanted to direct him or some of the stewards who spoke about my request at tpi.wikipedia concerning global sysops 19:07 < Tony_Sidaway> Guerillero: you're in the UK? ToAruShiroiNeko are you still in Europe or somewhere? It's one of those funny things. Americans often get scarce in late evening their time. 19:07 < BarkingFish> I've closed the discussion, a coupla weeks late, as "Proposal did not succeed" 19:07 < Guerillero> i am in the states 19:08 < Tony_Sidaway> And obviously very wide awake! 19:08 < BarkingFish> I think you discussed it with me on meta, didn't you, jeremyb? 19:09 < Fluffernutter> philippe is on holiday, i believe 19:09 < Soapy> http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/1724.jpg 19:09 < jeremyb> BarkingFish: doubt it. i just looked at some of #wikimedia-stewards backscroll 19:09 < Soapy> joyoftech.com has a comic about the Mars rover now 19:10 < jeremyb> Fluffernutter: orly 19:10 < jeremyb> BarkingFish: anyway, sounds like something that can wait for a monday ;) 19:10 < jeremyb> BarkingFish: you could try maggie too 19:11 < jeremyb> BarkingFish: also, can't the stewards just handle it themselves? 19:11 < BarkingFish> nah, it's not that urgent. 19:11 -!- icicleDJY [~cadets@67.9.85.178] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:11 -!- Luvbutrfly [~Luvbutrfl@pool-74-96-254-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 19:11 < BarkingFish> It's fine, I had quite a heated debate with some of the stewards, and had a pop at Philippe too - so I wanted to clear up and let them know I accepted their pov and didn't proceed any further 19:12 -!- icicleDJY [~cadets@67.9.85.178] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12 < BarkingFish> you can see what i said to him, and admittedly, I was not polite, even by my standards. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Philippe_%28WMF%29#Re:_tpi.wikipedia-_your_message_in_the_Local_pub_.28Bung_ples.29 19:12 < BarkingFish> i want to tidy shit up, and move on 19:13 < jeremyb> heh 19:13 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:13 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14 < Peter-C> yutsi - [[damage control surgery]] 19:14 < yutsi> cool 19:15 < yutsi> Cool essay: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/Willy_on_Wheels:A_Case_Study 19:16 < yutsi> I'll rate the article 19:16 < Ironholds> oh, Oceansize 19:16 < Ironholds> why did you have to break up. 19:16 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: yeah, he's officially sans-office 19:16 < Ironholds> however, Maggie is still here if people wish to direct queries her way 19:16 < Ironholds> I am thankfully the liaison who gets to deal with dull stuff ;p 19:16 -!- HarryS [H@unaffiliated/harrys] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:17 < Fluffernutter> poor maggie :P 19:17 -!- Soapy [Soap@wikipedia/soap] has quit [Quit: go GREEN !!!] 19:17 < Ironholds> eh, she signed up for it 19:18 < jeremyb> Ironholds: she only signed up for the morning shift, right? ;-) 19:19 < Ironholds> ...no? she does the job full time. 19:19 < Ironholds> despite having similar job titles we do completely different things 80 percent of the time. 19:20 -!- Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away 19:20 < geniice> that reminds me. I need to find out if the welsh have made contact with the devs 19:20 < Ironholds> "the welsh"? 19:21 -!- Tiptoety [~Tiptoety@076-076-146-078.pdx.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:21 -!- Tiptoety [~Tiptoety@076-076-146-078.pdx.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:21 -!- Tiptoety [~Tiptoety@wikipedia/Tiptoety] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:21 < geniice> cy.wikipedia 19:21 < geniice> they need pending changes switched on 19:23 < Ironholds> ahh 19:26 < Ironholds> who did you send them to? 19:26 < Fluffernutter> they did, but the devs figured someone had gotten drunk and just smashed their forehead on the keyboard based on the letters they used :P 19:26 < jeremyb> Ironholds: i mean philippe gets later in the day and she gets earlier. generally; not necessarily strictly followed 19:26 < Ironholds> jeremyb: well, no, because philippe is on holiday 19:26 < geniice> Ironholds various but I suggested that you would know who to talk to 19:26 < Ironholds> this is why we are having this conversation 19:26 < jeremyb> Ironholds: sure 19:26 < Ironholds> geniice: they ain't talked to me 19:26 < Ironholds> but they should ping jforrester@wikimedia.org 19:26 < geniice> Ironholds hmm followup time then 19:26 < Ironholds> tubby hippy fuck is the guy handling PC 19:26 < Fluffernutter> ooh he's gonna get you for that 19:26 < Ironholds> what's he going to do, fall on me? 19:26 < Ironholds> offer me his hookah? --- Log closed Sun Aug 05 19:39:14 2012