User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2013-05-22
MyWikiBiz, Author Your Legacy — Wednesday December 25, 2024
Jump to navigationJump to search--- Log opened Wed May 22 00:00:42 2013 --- Day changed Wed May 22 2013 00:00 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:04 -!- spyro [~shentino@gentoo/contributor/shentino] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:04 -!- anon90210 [~poko@173.85.192.55] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:05 -!- dandv [~dandv@li88-195.members.linode.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:06 < dandv> Would the attribution of this Flickr photo make it eligible for Wikimedia Commons? https://secure.flickr.com/photos/csis_er/8455538935/sizes/c/in/photostream/ 00:12 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:20 -!- muahaha is now known as muahaha|neru 00:21 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:24 -!- juliancolton [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:25 -!- Moe_Epsilon is now known as Not_Here 00:25 < BlastHardcheese> dandv: no, it's cc-by-nc-sa 00:26 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:34 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 00:41 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179044171.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:49 < dandv> and it should be... ? 00:49 < dandv> I DID read the rules, but still don't find them obvious when it comes to inspecting the tiny license icons on Flicrk 00:51 < harej> basically, wikimedia commons does not allow noncommercial 00:51 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179044171.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:52 < harej> hello southpark! 00:54 < southpark> hoi harej 00:56 -!- Thinky [6d18ad39@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.24.173.57] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:00 -!- Thinky [6d18ad39@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.24.173.57] has quit [Client Quit] 01:04 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:05 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 01:15 -!- BleedLikeMe [~spoiltvt@cpc1-clyd4-2-0-cust159.14-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:17 -!- Fijit [~fijit@tweets.plus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:17 -!- Onaka [~Onaka@dsl-sjkbrasgw2-54f8e1-29.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:19 < SigmaWP> harej: You're an admin, right? 01:19 < harej> Nominally. 01:19 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:20 < SigmaWP> Can you give me a list of revisions on my userpage? 01:20 < SigmaWP> Deleted 01:20 < SigmaWP> Just the last 50 should do 01:20 < harej> Sure, where's your user page? 01:21 < SigmaWP> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Σ 01:21 < SigmaWP> And https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=556233442 needs to be fried 01:23 < harej> where do you want me to put it 01:23 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179044171.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:23 < SigmaWP> pastebin? 01:23 < SigmaWP> pm? 01:26 -!- BleedLikeMe 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[~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has left #wikipedia-en [] 02:26 < mareklug> bazinga here, a good basic screen from Viewsonic for little money, but it still is only a 1080p vs. much more -- what is on the same sized 27" iMac: http://www.macmall.com/p/product~dpno~8886012~pdp.gjbcfja?store=macmall&source=MWB40124 02:41 < Bradford> ._. 02:41 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:42 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:44 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:48 -!- TB|Away is now known as TBloemink 02:50 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Quit: Steven_Zhang] 02:51 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:51 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:56 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:56 < Qcoder00> Admin please 02:56 < Qcoder00> I need some help 02:56 < Qcoder00> I suspect two accounts may be socks 02:56 < Qcoder00> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yossi_Beilin&oldid=556237874 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yossi_Beilin&oldid=552545814 beign the relevant edits 02:57 < Qcoder00> I've tagged the article as NPOV 02:57 < Qcoder00> *as having an NPOV concern 03:00 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:00 < mareklug> Rioters have lit fires and stoned emergency services in the suburbs of Stockholm for the third night in a row after a man was shot dead by police. 03:00 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has left #wikipedia-en [] 03:00 < mareklug> wow, Swedes don't do that. Must be the new immigrants. :/ 03:01 < Qcoder00> Ouch 03:01 < Qcoder00> I thought Sweden was relativly calm? 03:02 < Qcoder00> In Norway , there are apparently 'Death metal' groups that persue a course of civil unrest... 03:02 < mareklug> pursue, peruse * 03:02 < Qcoder00> Thank 03:02 < Qcoder00> you 03:02 < mareklug> you are welcome, you native speker you. 03:02 < mareklug> signed, immigrant from Poland 03:03 < Qcoder00> I typo and get confused sometimes... 03:03 < Qcoder00> That said, I have known some foreigners in London speak better English than the natives... 03:04 < Qcoder00> "I'm sorry" says the vistor " I think you will find that my argument is correct!" ... 03:04 < Qcoder00> "WoT" Says the local " havin' a laff are yere?" 03:04 < Qcoder00> :( 03:05 < SigmaWP> World of Tanks? 03:06 -!- Venusaur [~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:06 < mareklug> Web of Trust/ 03:06 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Quit: Steven_Zhang] 03:07 < SigmaWP> Web of Tanks, and World of Trust 03:07 < Qcoder00> Wot - slang or coloquial expression signifying "What?" "Excuse me?" phrasing 03:07 -!- Venusaur [~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:07 < mareklug> we say "wat" over in merka 03:09 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Heligoland] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:09 < Qcoder00> BTW In the last few days, I've also heard the expression "dancer" used as a drop in replacement for homo-sexual :( 03:09 < Qcoder00> Surely there are male dancers that are hetrosexual? 03:10 < Bradford> ._. 03:11 -!- zz_YuviPanda is now known as YuviPanda 03:11 < Qcoder00> I mean there are female rugby players that aren't "butch" 03:11 < Qcoder00> ;0 03:11 < Qcoder00> ;) 03:12 < mareklug> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-05-19/honeybees-trained-in-croatia-to-find-land-mines 03:13 -!- Vito_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:14 -!- Vito [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:16 -!- heb [~henrik@wikimedia/heb] has quit [Quit: Gonzo] 03:21 -!- katsy [~Solarra@wikipedia/Solarra] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:21 -!- Solarra [~Solarra@udp102803uds.hawaiiantel.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:21 -!- Solarra [~Solarra@udp102803uds.hawaiiantel.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:21 -!- Solarra [~Solarra@wikipedia/Solarra] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:26 -!- Solarra [~Solarra@wikipedia/Solarra] has quit [Client Quit] 03:26 -!- Solarra [~Solarra@udp102803uds.hawaiiantel.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:26 -!- Solarra [~Solarra@udp102803uds.hawaiiantel.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:26 -!- Solarra [~Solarra@wikipedia/Solarra] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:37 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:43 -!- spyro [~shentino@gentoo/contributor/shentino] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:46 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Quit: Steven_Zhang] 03:47 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:53 -!- muahaha [uid10984@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-decbvqcyuvrysdvc] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:01 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-098-027-034-197.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: meow] 04:04 -!- spyro [~shentino@gentoo/contributor/shentino] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:06 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 04:08 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:08 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 04:08 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:08 < Bsadowski1> http://www.explosm.net/comics/3179/ 04:08 < Bsadowski1> xD 04:10 < Bradford> XDDDDD 04:10 < Bradford> :-) 04:10 -!- armufox [~armucat@ip70-180-86-176.no.no.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:13 -!- armufox [~armucat@ip70-180-86-176.no.no.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:13 -!- russavia [~russavia@CPE-121-221-88-83.lns7.wel.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:13 -!- russavia [~russavia@CPE-121-221-88-83.lns7.wel.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 04:13 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:13 < SigmaWP> Bsadowski1: lol 04:17 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:19 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 04:21 -!- lucyd [~lucyd@14.139.82.6] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:21 -!- lbenedix1 [~lbenedix@g231250104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:23 -!- lucyd [~lucyd@14.139.82.6] has left #wikipedia-en ["Ex-Chat"] 04:25 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@90.220.135.67] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:25 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@90.220.135.67] has quit [Changing host] 04:25 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:26 -!- Andy123 [~PH@wikimedia/Sir-Nicholas-de-Mimsy-Porpington] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:28 < SigmaWP> night 04:29 < SigmaWP> oh, cool, it's Andy123 04:32 -!- FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|zZzZ 04:32 < Andy123> hi SigmaWP! long time, no haer 04:39 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:41 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:43 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 04:44 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:45 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Client Quit] 04:48 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Quit: You cannot logic someone out of an opinion they did not logic themselves into] 04:52 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:52 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 04:52 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:53 -!- dirkfranke [~chatzilla@p5DDC60A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:53 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:58 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:02 -!- Vito [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:02 -!- Vito_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:03 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@188-67-150-131.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:04 -!- mattbuck [~mattbuck@host86-134-59-126.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:05 -!- evilgohan2 [~freenode@c-69-251-240-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:05 -!- mattbuck [~mattbuck@host86-134-59-126.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:08 -!- evilgohan2 [~freenode@c-69-251-240-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:09 -!- Theo10011 [~Theo10011@wikimedia/Theo10011] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:12 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@wikipedia/Juxo] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:13 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:26 < mareklug> happy birthday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey 05:27 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Heligoland] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:28 < mareklug> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxC2hADtOdo Morrissey 'São Paulo' {Complete Film} 2012 1:29:12 05:43 -!- Nickinator [~Nickinato@123-243-142-239.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:44 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:45 < a930913> What is correct, "::*" or "***"? 05:46 < kuzetsa> a930913: for indented bullets? I always used the former (one or more colon followed by an asterisk) 05:47 < kuzetsa> I could be doing it wrong, but it works. 05:47 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:47 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:49 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:51 < russavia> "The FBI in Orlando have shot a man linked to Boston bombings suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, US media report" -- what's going on with this 05:51 < a930913> kuzetsa: Mmm, check wiki says the former, though I got reverted when I switched them whilst fixing a bracket. 05:56 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:57 -!- LjL [~ljl@unaffiliated/ljl] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:02 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07 -!- GorillaWarfare [6c14245e@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:08 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:15 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@c-24-23-83-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:15 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@c-24-23-83-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:15 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:16 -!- Cyberpower678 [~Cyberpowe@wikipedia/Cyberpower678] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:16 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has quit [Client Quit] 06:17 < Cyberpower678> Is there a crat among us? 06:18 < Cyberpower678> A gazillion people in this channel and it's as dead as the wild west in here. 06:19 < Cyberpower678> !crat 06:19 < Theo10011> Things pick up later. 06:19 -!- Cyberpower678 [~Cyberpowe@wikipedia/Cyberpower678] has left #wikipedia-en ["Leaving"] 06:19 < Theo10011> Cyberpower678, No I dont think there is a crat 06:19 < Theo10011> Impatient. 06:19 < mareklug> Bsadowski1 is a crat 06:20 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@wikipedia/Juxo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:20 -!- Fluffernutter [Fluffernut@wikipedia/Fluffernutter] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:20 < mareklug> good morning Sandwich 06:20 < Theo10011> Did Fluffernutter become a crat yet? 06:20 < Fluffernutter> good morning non-sandwich 06:21 < Fluffernutter> Theo10011: crats don't do anything interesting, when they do anything at all! 06:21 < Theo10011> Cmon, you need to level up higher or you'll lose this fantasy RPG called Wikipedia. 06:22 < Theo10011> Also, hats. Everyone needs more hats. 06:22 * Fluffernutter brandishes her +5 staff of copyediting 06:26 < Pharos> we need more founders 06:27 < Pharos> will noone take on that backlog? 06:27 -!- Gigs- [~Gigs@pdpc/supporter/28for7/gigs] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:29 < elkng> "The term googol was coined in 1938 by 9-year-old Milton Sirotta", can I also invent some new word like for 1 with 101 zeroes or 1 with 1000 zeroes and everyone would use it ? or why that 9-year-old were able but I can't ? and can even make article on wikipedia about my new word ? 06:29 < GorillaWarfare> elkng: Feel free to make any word you like. That said, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neologism#Neologisms 06:29 < elkng> I intented right now new word for 1 with 10000 zeroes, its: "zomogol", can I make article on wikipedia right now ? 06:30 < mareklug> elkng in 70 years, provided it will take. 06:30 < GorillaWarfare> Not unless there are reliable sources talking about the use of that word, no. 06:30 < GorillaWarfare> mareklug: 70 years seems arbitrary :P 06:30 < mareklug> GorillaWarfare I was just being helpful… 1938 and all 06:31 < elkng> GorillaWarfare: "talking about the use", what is the use of the term "googol" then ? 06:32 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:32 < GorillaWarfare> elkng: See the references section? 06:33 < GorillaWarfare> Granted, there are fewer references than there should be in that article. Still, if you do a Google Books search or similar for "googol", you'll see lots of reliable sources talking about the word. 06:33 < elkng> "Section Notable misspellings" ? 06:34 < GorillaWarfare> You're skipping the first one 06:34 < elkng> (1940). Mathematics and the Imagination 06:35 -!- Betacommand [~Betacomma@unaffiliated/betacommand] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 06:35 < GorillaWarfare> Indeed 06:36 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:39 < kondi> /quti 06:39 < kondi> wtf 06:39 -!- kondi [~kondi@123.201.21.34] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:41 -!- SoapX [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:41 < elkng> are Wiktionary and Wikipedia somehow related to each others ? do they belong same community ? 06:42 < GorillaWarfare> elkng: Yep, they're both projects run by the Wikimedia Foundation 06:43 < GorillaWarfare> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Our_projects 06:43 < Carly> https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3694357410/e6a5353503cde225225989345bcc39f6.jpeg 06:43 < Carly> Xddddd 06:43 < elkng> "As Wiktionary's inclusion criteria differ from Wikipedia's that project may cover neologisms that Wikipedia cannot accept.", they have different policies ? 06:43 < SoapX> yeah wiktionary is very liberal 06:43 < GorillaWarfare> Yes, they do 06:44 < SoapX> they allowed "malintent" as a valid word 06:44 < mareklug> http://youtu.be/IxC2hADtOdo?t=1h12m26s 06:44 < mareklug> again, happy birthday Mr. Morrissey. You are 54 years young. 06:44 < GorillaWarfare> elkng: Still, they do have some inclusion criteria: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Inclusion 06:45 < Carly> -_- 06:45 < Carly> Where is the party 06:47 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49 < Pharos> part over here 06:49 < Qcoder00> wiktionary is the Dictionary 06:50 < Qcoder00> malintent is a word ? 06:51 < Qcoder00> How about How about reversioned. 06:51 < Qcoder00> ? 06:51 < Qcoder00> without the hyophen? 06:52 < Pharos> fun fact: encyclopedic is not really a word 06:52 < Pharos> other than one meaning comprehensive 06:53 < Theo10011> Neologisms 06:53 -!- bazinga [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:53 * Qcoder00 makes a crass joke about encylopeados 06:53 < Qcoder00> ;) 06:53 -!- YuviPanda is now known as zz_YuviPanda 06:54 < Qcoder00> Bt my understanding was Wikipedia had very strong polices on people adovcating clearly inappropriate positions 06:54 < Qcoder00> :) 06:54 < mareklug> Pharos my mac says: 06:54 < mareklug> encyclopedic |enˌsīkləˈpēdik | adjective 06:54 < mareklug> comprehensive in terms of information: 06:54 < mareklug> encyclopedically |-(ə)lē | adverb 06:55 < Pharos> yes, i mean the wikipedia meaning is a neologism 06:55 < Qcoder00> Wikipedian, Wikimedian, Commonist, Do you Wiktionists? 06:55 < Qcoder00> *have 06:55 < mareklug> Pharos yeah, that jargon has not made it into dictionaries yet 06:55 < Pharos> ie "befittting the high and noble standards of an encyclopedia" 06:56 < mareklug> what about "encyclopedian" 06:56 < Qcoder00> Identity terms for Wikimedia project users... 06:56 < Qcoder00> Hmm 06:56 < Pharos> it's Emcyclopedist 06:56 < Pharos> with an n of course 06:56 < Pharos> that's the real word (tm) 06:57 < Qcoder00> Well you have Wikipedians, Wikimedians, Commonists, Wikivoyagers, Wikinewsie What do you have for other projects? 06:57 < Pharos> Encyclopedism is a real word too 06:57 < mareklug> Encyclopedist: encyclopedist |enˌsīkləˈpēdist | noun 06:57 < mareklug> a person who writes, edits, or contributes to an encyclopedia. 06:57 < Pharos> Wikisourcerors 06:57 < Qcoder00> :) 06:57 < mareklug> Wikisaucers 06:57 < Qcoder00> mareklug:? 06:57 < mareklug> Wikicaseroles 06:57 < Pharos> I've tried to push for Wikibookworm too! 06:58 < mareklug> Wikivodka 06:58 < Qcoder00> I prefer the term Wikiscribe for Wkisorce contributors... 06:58 < mareklug> that one for Issara 06:58 < mareklug> where is the woman 06:58 < Pharos> no, the wikisourcerors have it 06:58 < Qcoder00> Hmm 06:59 < Qcoder00> What do Wiki-Species have? 06:59 < Qcoder00> Wikidermist? 06:59 < Qcoder00> (Sorry...) 06:59 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:00 < Pharos> Wikispecimens 07:00 -!- elkng_ [~elkng@unaffiliated/elkng] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:00 -!- elkng [~elkng@unaffiliated/elkng] has quit [Disconnected by services] 07:01 -!- elkng_ is now known as elkng 07:01 < Qcoder00> That leaves WikiData 07:02 < Qcoder00> Collective term for Wikidata users: WikiDaters? 07:02 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@188-67-211-186.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:03 < Qcoder00> Maybe Wikidermists is a better term for WikiSpecies admins... 07:03 < Qcoder00> ;) 07:03 < Qcoder00> Wikipedia, Wikimedian, admins. 07:03 < Qcoder00> Wikisource, Wikisourcers, custodians... 07:04 < Qcoder00> Hmm 07:04 -!- topaz [~twp@unchi.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:04 < Qcoder00> So Pharos: I need to have a laugh sometimes 07:05 < Qcoder00> Sometimes I laugh at what the next 'project' will be after Wikidata... 07:05 < mareklug> wikirecipe 07:05 < Qcoder00> WikISauce :) 07:05 < Pharos> Wikibookworms is totally appropriate, and will emerge as a solid tradition once Wikibooks gets a bit more popular 07:06 < Qcoder00> Actually WikiSauce SHOULD be the name of the Cookbook :) 07:06 -!- Sixsmith [41af89e1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.175.137.225] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:06 < GorillaWarfare> I like that a lot, Qcoder00 :P 07:06 < Qcoder00> Straw poll? 07:06 < mareklug> Pharos it would be more fitting to use Wikivanityworms 07:06 < Pharos> I support Wikisauce 07:06 < Pharos> cookbook is too generic 07:06 < Qcoder00> GorillaWarfare: How much hacking would need to be done to change the name of the Cookbook? 07:07 < GorillaWarfare> What cookbook? 07:07 < Qcoder00> The one at Wikibooks 07:07 < GorillaWarfare> Oh, haha. Ask them 07:07 < Pharos> it's officially called "Wikimedia Cookbook" 07:08 < Qcoder00> WikiSauce would be more distinctive 07:08 < Qcoder00> personally;) 07:08 -!- Not_Here [~David@wikimedia/Moe-Epsilon] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:08 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:08 < mareklug> wasn't Polynesian for eat kai-kai? 07:08 < Pharos> "Wikimedia Cookbook" is one of the http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Subproject 07:08 < SoapX> kau0kau in hawaiian creole 07:09 -!- zz_YuviPanda is now known as YuviPanda 07:09 < mareklug> so wikikaukau would be very apt and cohesive 07:09 < Pharos> wikisauce is more understandable :P 07:09 < SoapX> wikikaukau would probably mean something like "fast eating" or "eat quickly" 07:09 < mareklug> Pharos we create undertanding 07:09 < mareklug> SoapX Wendy's!!! 07:10 < Pharos> i think http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Subproject is kind of an underused page and concept 07:10 < Pharos> but then i created it :P 07:10 -!- Andy123 [~PH@wikimedia/Sir-Nicholas-de-Mimsy-Porpington] has left #wikipedia-en [] 07:10 < Qcoder00> What's a Wikisarus? 07:10 < mareklug> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/kaikai 07:11 < Pharos> it's a wiktionary thesaurus 07:11 < Pharos> with a dinosaur theme! 07:11 < mareklug> Qcoder00 it lived long ago, before the asteroid that took out dinos, and fed on conservapediasaurs 07:11 < Qcoder00> ROFL 07:12 < Qcoder00> Silly... There's NO evidence for conservapediasarus, cause it's not in the bible... it's a "liberal myth" put there to 'prove' evolution :) 07:12 < Qcoder00> XD 07:12 < Pharos> "Sauce" is french so it's international 07:13 < mareklug> except most sane orthographies spell it "sos" 07:13 < Pharos> the europeans will like it better than "wikibooks" at least 07:13 < Qcoder00> WikiVersity used to be a subproject 07:14 < Pharos> indeed! 07:14 * Qcoder00 hates to imagine what a Wiki sex manual would be called... 07:14 < mareklug> wikiquikie 07:14 < Pharos> wikipedia is already a sex manual 07:14 < tommorris> Qcoder00: Commons. 07:14 < Qcoder00> (That said there IS genuinely a Whipipedia! run by a fetish group in the UK ! _ 07:14 < mareklug> wikipedia is full autosex. nothing manual about it. 07:15 < Qcoder00> Collective term for a Wikiversity contributor : Insane ;) 07:15 < Pharos> i recall list of sex positions was on the top-viewed articles for many years 07:15 < mareklug> Qcoder00 are they into greyhounds? 07:15 < Qcoder00> mareklug: Huh? 07:15 < Pharos> there was a french guy who drew a lot of relatively tasteful line drawings 07:15 -!- TheDruId [4aeff6fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.239.246.250] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:15 < mareklug> whippet is another word for greyhound, esp. a racing dog 07:16 < Qcoder00> And of to the side of Wikipedians and so on you have Wikiaains 07:16 < Qcoder00> (with various factions) 07:17 < Pharos> oh man, i;m starting a new page on meta! 07:17 < Qcoder00> For what? 07:18 < Qcoder00> And perosnally I wouldn't have objected to WikiData being called WikiVentory 07:18 < Qcoder00> ;) 07:21 < GorillaWarfare> Agh, I would be :P 07:22 < GorillaWarfare> s/be/have/ 07:22 < mareklug> I always misremember which goes first and which goes second in the s command syntax…. is there a mnemonic you can offer me, GorillaWarfare 07:22 < Qcoder00> GorillaWarfare: Are you active on WikiSource? 07:23 < GorillaWarfare> Qcoder00: I am! 07:23 < Qcoder00> Moment.. Will speak on the other channel... 07:23 < GorillaWarfare> mareklug: The s command? Just think "find, replace" 07:23 < mareklug> so the target comes first 07:25 -!- lbenedix [~lbenedix@zfeeb.pia.fu-berlin.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:26 < Pharos> Qcoder00: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinym 07:27 < GorillaWarfare> mareklug: Correct 07:27 < mareklug> GorillaWarfare same in ln -s ? 07:27 < mareklug> :) ? 07:27 < Qcoder00> Pharos: Added WikiScribe 07:27 < Qcoder00> What's the humor tag on meta? 07:28 < Theo10011> Wikidata should be borg 07:29 < Qcoder00> "We are Data of Wikimedia, Your projects infobox will become part of the collective. Resistance is futile. ..." 07:29 -!- TBloemink is now known as TB|Away 07:31 < mareklug> "You are my sweetest downfall" -- Regina Spektor 07:31 < GorillaWarfare> mareklug: Yep. Most commands follow that order, I believe 07:31 < mareklug> Pharos now that's a Brooklyn musician 07:31 < mareklug> GorillaWarfare thank you. I will commit to memory "find, replace" 07:32 -!- t3nj1n [~t3nj1n@rrcs-24-103-48-226.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:32 -!- peachey|laptop__ [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Quit: User has quit this network.] 07:32 -!- t3nj1n [~t3nj1n@rrcs-24-103-48-226.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 07:32 -!- Betacommand [~Betacomma@unaffiliated/betacommand] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:33 -!- LtNOWIS|Sleep [~Simon@pool-173-66-20-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:33 < Qcoder00> <in stoaccoto tone> FIND! REPLACE! NOM-IN-ATE! 07:33 < Qcoder00> XD 07:33 < mareklug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnOmqkwWVaw "Samson" - by Regina Spektor, with lyrics 07:36 < GorillaWarfare> :D 07:38 < Pharos> Qcoder00: hm, saw your meta userpage was written by sandy ordonez in 2007! 07:38 < Pharos> she's a nyer now 07:38 < Qcoder00> nyer? 07:38 < Pharos> New Yorker 07:39 < Pharos> she does local Free Culture stuff for New America Foundation 07:39 < Qcoder00> oH right 07:39 < Pharos> I had free tacos and beer from her on Monday night :P 07:39 < Qcoder00> On something more serious... 07:39 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@74.46.65.251] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:39 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@74.46.65.251] has quit [Changing host] 07:39 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:39 < Qcoder00> Does every NYC Subway station have an article yet? 07:40 < Pharos> yes 07:40 < mareklug> it should 07:40 < Pharos> i'm pretty sure that several that don't exist have articles as well 07:41 < Qcoder00> :) 07:42 < SoapX> lets make more 07:43 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:43 < SoapX> hi 07:43 < mareklug> SoapX more stations? 07:44 < Pharos> there were some planned in about 1940 that probably don't have articles yet... 07:44 < IDoH> Hey 07:44 < mareklug> IDoH that's a fine band 07:44 < mareklug> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey%20%28band%29 07:44 < IDoH> What is, mareklug? 07:44 < IDoH> Oh, gee... 07:45 < mareklug> IDoH that's a different band. they were fully called the Bee Gees 07:46 < IDoH> I can't say anything without mareklug thinking of a band... 07:46 < mareklug> IDoH you like The Moldy Peaches? 07:46 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@2001:d98:b004:8:79ae:b0b8:9a2d:2c0b] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:46 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@2001:d98:b004:8:79ae:b0b8:9a2d:2c0b] has quit [Changing host] 07:46 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@wikimedia/Chenzw] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:47 < IDoH> Haven't heard of them, mareklug. 07:47 < IDoH> Hey Chenzw. 07:47 < mareklug> IDoH you never saw the film "Juno"/ 07:47 < mareklug> ? 07:47 < IDoH> Yeah, I have. 07:47 < mareklug> the music htere is mostly The Moldy Peaches 07:47 < Theo10011> Why am I still listening to Regina Spektor!? 07:47 < mareklug> Theo10011 because she does not suck. 07:47 < Chenzw> hey IDoH 07:47 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Heligoland] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:48 < IDoH> Ah, I see. 07:48 < TheDruId> IDoH, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_Anything_(band)#History ? 07:48 < IDoH> And you're right, mareklug, Regina Spektor does not suck. 07:48 < IDoH> Yes…like that, TheDruId... 07:48 < SoapX> i only know about Regina Spektor because of xkcd 07:49 < mareklug> IDoH just before you signed on the channel, I posted this: 07:49 < mareklug> [09:33:44] <mareklug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnOmqkwWVaw "Samson" - by Regina Spektor, with lyrics 07:49 < IDoH> Hey NotASpy. 07:49 < mareklug> SoapX ^ 07:49 < mareklug> a fine introduction. 07:49 < Theo10011> ok, pick the next song now mareklug 07:50 < mareklug> Theo10011 sweet Regina's or? 07:50 < Theo10011> your pick 07:50 < SoapX> nah not interested 07:50 -!- vaxdroid [~vaxdroid@gprs-inet-65-32.elisa.ee] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:50 < mareklug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTVYy_xT9CI Hey "Do Rycerzy, do Szlachty, do Mieszczan" (official lyric video) Theo10011 07:53 < NotASpy> hiya IDoH 07:53 < IDoH> Hey vaxdroid. 07:53 < IDoH> NotASpy, you're in #wikipedia-en-help. What a brave soul. 07:53 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:54 < Pharos> only brave people and spies go there 07:54 < IDoH> LOL 07:55 < Theo10011> mareklug, meh. I'm back to Regina. 07:56 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:56 < mareklug> Theo10011 how quaint. Swob loves Hey, says meh to Regina. You the opposite. 07:56 -!- YuviPanda is now known as zz_YuviPanda 07:57 -!- James_F|Away is now known as James_F 07:58 -!- vaxdroid [~vaxdroid@gprs-inet-65-32.elisa.ee] has quit [] 07:58 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:01 * TheDruId was a spy. 08:01 < NotASpy> has -help been fun today then, IDoH ? 08:01 -!- mschfr [~mschm@p4FCB8309.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:01 < IDoH> Well, somebody wanted to do Marquee elements in Wikipedia. 08:02 * IDoH waves at the door at the newcomers 08:02 < IDoH> They still want to do it. 08:02 < mareklug> :) :) :) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macintosh-Powerbook-G3-Model-M4753-/161027165357?&autorefresh=true 08:02 < Theo10011> OMG he still wants autoscroll. :P 08:05 -!- Vito_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:05 -!- Vito [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:06 < Pharos> the name for users of Wikispecies is still a total mystery 08:06 < Fluffernutter> wikispecimens 08:06 < mareklug> that sounds like lab stuff 08:07 < Pharos> that's what i thought, wikispecimens 08:07 < mareklug> wikicritters 08:07 < Pharos> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinym rolls on 08:07 < Theo10011> Fluffernutter, Gender neutral!!! 08:08 < Theo10011> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ombudsman_commission#Gender_neutrality 08:08 < SoapX> those arwe both good 08:08 < TheDruId> Vandals have a Wiki nom-de-plunder. 08:09 < mareklug> SoapX what do you think of my wininng bid? 08:10 < SoapX> $93 for a macbook pro 08:10 < SoapX> I used to do thinsg like that 08:10 < mareklug> This is a Macintosh Powerbook G3 Model M4753. I believe this is the "Wallstreet" model. It is in working condition with a cd drive, power supply, battery (unknown condition), OS 9.2, 160mb Ram, 2 gb hard drive, 233 mhz, and has the following software installed: 08:10 < mareklug> Photoshop 7 08:10 < mareklug> Appleworks 6 08:10 < mareklug> Clarisworks 4 08:10 < mareklug> Word 5 08:10 < mareklug> Quark express 4.1 08:10 < mareklug> Filemaker Pro 6 08:10 < mareklug> MS Office 2001 - word, excel, powerpoint 08:10 < mareklug> Tons of games 08:10 < SoapX> not bad except for tha hard drive 08:10 < SoapX> 2 GB??? 08:10 < SoapX> seems way too low even for the age of the laptop 08:10 < mareklug> well, i intend to replace that. 08:11 < mareklug> it must be the original. mine was 300MHz model, top of the line, and came with 8GB 08:11 < SoapX> I'd even suspect that was a typo for 20 GB or something 08:11 < SoapX> i mean like how could they fit all those programs on a 2 gig drive 08:12 -!- mindspillage [~kat@173.151.250.205] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:12 -!- mindspillage [~kat@173.151.250.205] has quit [Changing host] 08:12 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:12 < mareklug> System 9 programs are small. the entire system runs in 50 MB 08:12 < mareklug> I just looked. It's 40.4 MB right now, out of 512 MB ram installed. 08:13 < SoapX> yeah I guess 08:13 < SoapX> Photoshop 5.5 would fit in 90MB 08:13 < SoapX> for Windows anyway 08:13 < mareklug> it's a remarkable purchase. Now I have two machines with exchangable parts and programming. 08:14 < closedmouth> i bet the battery is fucked 08:14 < closedmouth> "unknown condition" 08:14 < mareklug> i just ordered one for 40 08:14 < mareklug> new 08:14 < TheDruId> They'll start reproducing if you're not careful. 08:14 < mareklug> with a chip in it 08:15 < SoapX> no battery 08:15 < mareklug> it's funny that a new battery costs half of the machine with all that great software. I mean, Quark express 4.1! 08:15 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:16 < IDoH> You remind me of my dad if he knew more about technology, mareklug/ 08:16 < mareklug> :) 08:16 < IDoH> Goodness. The enthusiasm. Heh. 08:16 < mareklug> FedEx is delivering ot me today two SCSI internal Quantum drives formatted and ready to go in IIci 08:17 < mareklug> so I will also run again PageMaker/Photoshop/Illustrator on System 7 in 24 meg of RAM and on a Motorola 6830 25 MHz. :) 08:17 < mareklug> Beleive me, it is entirely snappy. 08:17 < mareklug> 68030 * 08:17 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 08:17 < IDoH> I'm sure it's snappy. 08:20 < dtm_> hi <3 08:21 < IDoH> Hey dtm_ 08:21 < dtm_> mareklug: well i used to have that, with system 7.7 beta on a IIsi <3 08:21 < dtm_> and a PDS splitter card with an FPU and a Video Spigot and a 24-bit GPU 08:21 < mareklug> system 7.7 was never released. Official release tree stops on 7.6.3 afaik 08:22 < dtm_> thanks for the info. 08:22 < dtm_> i'll be sure and pencil that down 08:22 < dtm_> what's the status on Copland these days 08:22 < dtm_> is that out yet? 08:22 < mareklug> indeed, my original 24-bit RasterOps TrueColor Nubus card from teh IIcx (my first machine, 1989, 6.5 k USD) is still operating. 08:22 < dtm_> what do you do with it 08:23 < SoapX> did you get your free half of a fish filet yet? 08:23 < dtm_> lol??? 08:23 < mareklug> dtm it powers a Sony CRT monitor right now and it will do fine for the incoming SCSI drives to revive book publishing of A Small Garlic Press 08:23 < dtm_> we never got copland booting yet 08:23 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@2.122.96.154] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:23 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@2.122.96.154] has quit [Changing host] 08:23 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@wikimedia/John-F-Lewis] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:23 < mareklug> SoapX the corporate scum has yet to reply 08:24 < dtm_> mareklug: what, you were a one-person book publisher? 08:24 < mareklug> dtm one person my ass. 08:24 < dtm_> :-o 08:24 < mareklug> http://asgp.org 08:24 < dtm_> well, one person *and* an ass, or one person *with* an ass? 08:24 -!- Vito_ is now known as Vito 08:24 < IDoH> LOL 08:24 < mareklug> don't call katja or lee ann an ass. 08:24 < mareklug> or rene 08:24 < mareklug> or sheila 08:25 < mareklug> or renay 08:25 < mareklug> or jennifer 08:25 < mareklug> or kim 08:25 < dtm_> k 08:25 < dtm_> that's one hot site 08:25 < dtm_> spicy!!! 08:25 < mareklug> btw LeeAnn is at Apple doing who knows what, but she has an Emmy for a workstation in her previous life 08:25 < IDoH> The secret is a lot of garlic, dtm_ 08:26 < mareklug> a lot of small garlic 08:26 < dtm_> IDoH: i can feel it, through the keyboard, in my nostrils 08:26 < IDoH> LOL 08:26 < dtm_> mareklug: write to LeeAnn and ask 08:26 < mareklug> go straight to Agnieszka's Dowry 08:26 < dtm_> ok 08:26 -!- lbenedix [~lbenedix@zfeeb.pia.fu-berlin.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:26 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@s55978db4.adsl.online.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:26 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@s55978db4.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Changing host] 08:26 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:26 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:26 < mareklug> dtm I rather don't expect to be told 08:27 < IDoH> That would your book, correct, mareklug? 08:27 < mareklug> no https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnieszka%27s%20Dowry 08:27 * dtm_ leaps over all the huge punctuation ....gratuities... on http://asgp.org/catalog.html and straight to the dowry 08:27 < dtm_> mareklug: so how does one run a book publisher? what does that mean? do you have some huge equipment? 08:28 < mareklug> we print commercially, so we buy that service at a commercial printer who indeed has moby equipment, such as the Xerox laser presses that take up a room 08:29 < IDoH> Oh, the magazine. 08:29 < mareklug> the design and layout is done on our personal machines natch 08:29 < dtm_> wow that's one of the most bizarrely formatted wikipedia articles i've ever seen. 08:29 < SoapX> whaaaat your puiblisher has a wikipedia article?? 08:29 < SoapX> AFD it now!! 08:29 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:29 < dtm_> lol 08:29 < mareklug> SoapX it is entirely ency, as they say 08:29 < dtm_> who says that? /me readies the white glove of honor 08:29 < mareklug> and it is not the publisher, but he journal. the publisher is still a red link 08:30 < mareklug> dtm_ ask Brown University libraries or Polish Studies Center at SUNY Buffalo 08:30 < SoapX> yeah, oddly enough 08:30 < dtm_> i daresay that article is fook't 08:30 < mareklug> dtm why? 08:30 < dtm_> well. first off what you have to do, is to look at it, at all 08:30 < dtm_> did you do that step first? 08:31 < mareklug> yes… I have looked at it 08:31 < SoapX> he created the article 08:31 < dtm_> crazy stuff! 08:31 < mareklug> dtm just like you and your drummer mentor 08:31 < dtm_> :-oooooo 08:31 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:32 < dtm_> but.... he's real. HE'S REAL!!! 08:32 < Fyre> oh shit 08:32 < mareklug> and AgD is not real? 08:32 < CrackyWacky> for real? 08:32 < Fyre> really? 08:32 < CrackyWacky> yeah 08:32 < Fyre> no way! 08:32 < CrackyWacky> yeah! 08:32 < mareklug> then why is it listed by Annenberg School of Communications, UCLA among top literary resources? 08:32 < Fyre> O RLY? 08:32 < CrackyWacky> YA RLY? 08:33 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:33 < dtm_> mareklug: i dunno, man. i just ...dont....know. 08:33 * IDoH is surrounded by weirdos shouting "Really?" 08:33 < mareklug> dtm_ and why do its 27 books figure in the Library of Congress? 08:33 < dtm_> IDoH: O R L Y ? ? ? 08:33 < dtm_> mareklug: couldn't say 08:33 < IDoH> LOL 08:34 < mareklug> dtm and why was it one of the first electronic journals assigned an ISSN by Library of Congress? 08:34 < dtm_> shoot. 08:34 < dtm_> did anyone else look at that berzerker article formatting? 08:34 < dtm_> check it out! 08:34 < mareklug> and why can you buy its books at Borders and at Amazon and in rare book stores? 08:35 < dtm_> is that how they formatted wikipedia articles in 1999? 08:35 < dtm_> is it a stylistic preservation to match the web site? <3 08:35 < dtm_> good stuff!!! 08:35 < mareklug> dtm would you just say what you find defective about its formatting? 08:35 < dtm_> NEEDS MORE GARLIC 08:35 < dtm_> that's what 08:35 < Fyre> NEEDS MORE CAPS 08:35 < CrackyWacky> CAPS LOCK FOR CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL 08:36 < CrackyWacky> I LOVE CAPS LOCK 08:36 < IDoH> Goodness. So loud in here. 08:36 < Fyre> ME TOO MAKES EVERYTHING LOUDER. 08:37 < TheDruId> Anything to inconvenience the disabled. 08:37 < Fyre> LET'S MAKE THEM AWKWARD! 08:37 < dtm_> mareklug: well. i think i need to read it another fifteen times and follow all wikilinked lingo, to have any idea whatsoever what it's about, at all. i'll leap past the huge and twisted section titles, directly to the almost unformatted ==References== CAN ANYONE LOOK AT THIS ARTICLE FOR GREAT JUSTICE COZ IT'S GREAT 08:37 < Fyre> I'M THINKING OF FROZEN FISHSTICKS 08:37 < CrackyWacky> I LOVE FISHSTICKS 08:37 < dtm_> mareklug: since you asked! <3 08:37 < Theo10011> Please avoid caps. 08:37 < CrackyWacky> LET'S HAVE A FISHSTICK FIGHT! 08:37 < GorillaWarfare> Why is everybody shouting :( 08:37 < dtm_> it's kinda hard to avoid. they're RIGHT THERE. 08:37 < Fyre> BECAUSE OUR CAPS LOCK KEY IS STUCK 08:37 < dtm_> they're covering practically THE ENTIRE keyboard 08:38 < CrackyWacky> ME TOO, IT'S STUCK ALL THE WAY DOWN 08:38 < Fyre> WE'RE ON CRACK COCAINE 08:38 < closedmouth> shut up 08:38 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o Theo10011] by ChanServ 08:38 < CrackyWacky> I'M ON HEROIN 08:38 < mareklug> Fyre beware of the greedy shortchanging pigs at Van de Kamps' who will sell you half-size fillet amongst the rest in the box 08:38 -!- CrackyWacky was kicked from #wikipedia-en by Theo10011 [CrackyWacky] 08:38 -!- Fyre was kicked from #wikipedia-en by Theo10011 [Fyre] 08:38 -!- Fyre [uid11657@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-djlhfvogsbetnjmj] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:39 -!- CrackyWacky [uid11656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sfrfrodfljryqsvl] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:39 < CrackyWacky> oops 08:39 < CrackyWacky> sorry 08:39 < dtm_> the thought police are in full effect. b3w4r3. are numbers allowed? let's see what this wikitext is like. 08:39 < Fyre> me too 08:39 < Fyre> :3 08:39 < Fyre> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 08:39 < dtm_> Fyre: numbers are off topic, sorry 08:39 < CrackyWacky> ( ‾ʖ̫‾) 08:41 < CrackyWacky> dtm_: how numb3rs are off topic? 08:41 < dtm_> crap if i know. it just logically follows. elementary! 08:41 < IDoH> Because dtm_ is weird, that's why. 08:41 < mareklug> numbers are off the top of my head, not offtopic 08:42 < IDoH> heh heh 08:42 < CrackyWacky> in all seriousness 08:42 < CrackyWacky> is wikipedia retina display friendly? 08:42 < dtm_> mareklug: one of the references has a crudely drawn ascii arrow. seriously. and an unformatted raw url. 08:42 < SoapX> what?"?? where? 08:42 < dtm_> IDoH: gotta draw the line somewhere. or else we have cats and dogs, LIVING together! 08:43 < IDoH> That happens all the time, actually. 08:43 < dtm_> k 08:43 < CrackyWacky> even data-icon="▨" 08:43 < SoapX> oh 08:43 < mareklug> A Small Garlic Press: Poets.org, The Academy of American Poets, NY, NY -> Poetry, Poems, Bios & More - Illinois -> Literary Journals and Small Presses, [4] ("This not-for-profit press produces chapbooks, broadsides, and Agnieszka's Dowry, a print and online journal.") (Accessed 22 April 2007). 08:43 < CrackyWacky> doing stuff like that 08:43 < mareklug> seemed a good idea at a time, considering the assinine way poets.org is laid out 08:43 < dtm_> and there's an unterminated <nowiki> inexplicably 08:43 < mareklug> and its pages titles 08:43 < SoapX> "The timiestamps are maintained only by hand." 08:43 < mareklug> dtm it is terminated. 08:43 < dtm_> mareklug: no, it didn't. ;) it was totally insane but nobody cared ;) 08:44 < dtm_> mareklug: oh it is terminated, just still utterly bizarre nonetheless 08:44 < mareklug> dtm you are way too orthodox. and a bit anachronistic. this is how things were done yesteryear. 08:44 < dtm_> zero inline citations. 08:44 < dtm_> mareklug: well that's exactly what i asked;) 08:45 < mareklug> dtm so it was. but don't give ME grief. Check out 1/2 of the wikipedia. 08:45 < dtm_> my widdle bitty heart is all aflutter 08:46 < SoapX> 16:45, 22 May 2013 Soap (talk | contribs | block) deleted page Agnieszka's Dowry (G11: Multiple issues all being ignored by page creator, not notable) 08:46 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o Theo10011] by ChanServ 08:47 < dtm_> SoapX: gaze thine eyes upon it and looook 08:48 < dtm_> and then please tell me what it is that we're looking at, but still, look at it *hard* 08:48 < Revent> *sighs* Where did the thousand or so articles added to 'unassesed biographies' since last night come from... 08:49 -!- DivT [~Umut@c83-251-213-231.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:49 < mareklug> Revent those would be the biographies without asses. 08:50 < Revent> :P 08:50 < dtm_> assless chapbooks 08:50 < dtm_> *whip crack* 08:50 < mareklug> dtm you would like the books 08:50 < dtm_> SoapX: you're looking at this, right? 08:51 < mareklug> both as printed artifracts of high quality and on merit. 08:51 < dtm_> SoapX: as hard as you possibly can 08:51 < mareklug> dtm_ is this some sort of a crusade you are on? 08:52 -!- zz_YuviPanda is now known as YuviPanda 08:53 < dtm_> i'm losing track of the nonsensical sentences. i'm not sure i can fix em all lol 08:53 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:53 < dtm_> there's got to be some kind of "worst of wikipedia" list, right? 08:53 < dtm_> <3 08:53 < dtm_> i mean. i guess ....that's... AfD. but. 08:53 < mareklug> I should recuse myself from this conversation while I am calm. 08:54 < dtm_> dear, sweet, intrepid, mareklug. you may still win the prize! 08:54 < mareklug> spurious comma after inrepid 08:54 < Revent> dtm_: It's called speedydeletewiki 08:54 < dtm_> mareklug: i apologize for the exuberant enthusiasm of my helpfulness 08:54 < dtm_> mareklug: i apologize for that comma, sir. 08:55 < mareklug> terchnically, the worst of wiki is undetected hoaxen 08:55 * SoapX writes not to self: now we know how to annoy mareklug easily 08:55 < SoapX> *note 08:55 < dtm_> mareklug: is it? so.. that's what this is? 08:55 < mareklug> I will link several other articles that I care about to make the load distribution more bearable 08:56 < dtm_> now it all *is* starting to make sense 08:56 < dtm_> k 08:56 < dtm_> what *have* you been up to, dear mareklug 08:56 < dtm_> SoapX: he really was always such a .... QUIET.. young man 08:56 < mareklug> sugar and spice, and everything nice. 08:56 < dtm_> we never suspected a thing 08:56 < SoapX> marek is a GIRL!!! 08:56 < dtm_> whoa whoa whoa. 08:57 < SoapX> the secret's out 08:57 < dtm_> he'd never do THAT. he doesn't have it in him! 08:57 < mareklug> in her. 08:58 < mareklug> "Her own haiku sequence, "Super K-mart", is lodged in Agnieszka's Dowry Issue 1.[citation needed]" 08:58 < mareklug> it is pretty idiotic of whoever but that {{cn}} there, considering the entire content of the Issue 1 (as of Issues 2 through 14) is online, free for anyone to inspect. 08:58 < SoapX> oh that's right 08:58 < SoapX> the other way to annoy mareklug is to point out all the haikus on that site that arent really haikus 08:59 < dtm_> mareklug: so you're seriously tryin to tell me that there was an actual style of citation which involved explicitly listing the entire url in <nowiki>? but JUST ONE of them?? 08:59 < mareklug> htey are haikus. so say eminent haikuists. 08:59 < dtm_> lol. 08:59 < dtm_> eminent... but... NOTABLE?! 09:00 < mareklug> dtm that is a workaround. you see, I asked patiently on the whitelist request page to have it excepted from the suite101 blanket blacklisting. After literally 4 months f no action or reply by any fucken one, it was summarily moved to not addressed section. 09:00 < dtm_> oh my 09:00 < dtm_> why was it blacklisted? 09:00 < mareklug> dtm why don't you find out if the haikuists are notable. their names are listed. 09:00 < dtm_> okay lolollooo 09:01 < mareklug> suite101? 09:01 < dtm_> guys, guys guys guys. "Online ''AgD'' appears as a set of interconnected [[web page]]s". <33333333 09:01 < SoapX> poor kluggy 09:01 < dtm_> that's beautiful 09:01 < SoapX> cant get his website off the spam blacklist 09:01 < mareklug> not muy website. a particular REVIEW. 09:01 < Revent> Don;t suppose he's considered actually not being a spammer. :/ 09:02 < Revent> (the person who runs the site, not you marek) 09:02 < dtm_> why is it blacklisted 09:02 -!- Guest96014 [uid11283@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ahcvvqiczyffoixu] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:02 < mareklug> Revent does suite101 even exist anymore? 09:02 < mareklug> dtm because it had a lot of dross content. 09:03 < mareklug> it also has prominent exceptions to the blacklisting, on merit 09:03 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:03 < dtm_> it's still blacklisted! 09:03 < Revent> *is looking* Yup. 09:03 < mareklug> dtm ^^^^^^^^^ 09:04 < dtm_> mareklug: so how exactly did it get blacklisted? how does this one particular site get blacklisted from wikipedia? who cares what it is? 09:04 < Revent> Basically a blog site.... 09:04 < dtm_> yeah but so what? what if there was an article telling how to not write a wikipedia article, citing that site? 09:04 < mareklug> dtm I honestly don't know the finer politics of blacklisting sites. the entire operation including unlisting is run by arbitrary and capricious admin types 09:04 < dtm_> as long as it's not a criminal organization 09:05 < dtm_> oic 09:05 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05 < dtm_> that sounds slightly heinous. 09:05 < Revent> Yeah, I dunno the backstory.....my *random guess* glancing at it would be copyvio issues with the postings. 09:05 < mareklug> dtm basically, welcome to Byzantine Empire LLC 09:05 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:05 < SoapX> i coudlnt find any request by you to remove anything from the spam blacklist either here or on meta? 09:06 < mareklug> on the white list talk page. don't they archive the stuff? 09:07 < dtm_> mareklug: lol. 09:07 < dtm_> so what are the odds that [[A Small Garlic Press]] will ever become notable and then exist 09:07 < dtm_> that's what we're doing today huh 09:07 < dtm_> we're all here to see that happen 09:07 < dtm_> let's do it guys. 09:08 < mareklug> dtm it needs a review in trade press or maybe a mention in New Yorker 09:08 < dtm_> let's make mareklug's dreams come true, once we figure out what the *crap* they are! 09:08 < dtm_> \o/ 09:08 < dtm_> mareklug: hmm. who do we know around those parts? 09:08 < mareklug> we are a secret illuminati subsidiary 09:09 < dtm_> okay so then you control the wikimedia cabal? 09:09 < mareklug> considerably fewer now than I used to, as I became antisocial 09:09 < TheDruId> mareklug is an idealist. 09:09 < dtm_> oic 09:10 < dtm_> what you need, is to just utilize your illuminati influence, to hack a code injection into the wikimedia software layer beneath the blacklist layer. 09:10 < SoapX> oh it's mediaiwki 09:10 < dtm_> that's what i said! 09:10 < mareklug> SoapX i can't remember that sort of stuff 09:10 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2008/09#A_specific_signed_and_dated_review_published_as_www.suite101.com.2Farticle.cfm.2Fpoetry_magazine_review.2F76867 09:10 < dtm_> boy, we're gettin the band back together!!! 09:10 < SoapX> it wasnt "no action taken", it was simply refused 09:11 < mareklug> soapx that was 2009. try 2012 09:11 < SoapX> i admit though that guy was kind of rude 09:11 < SoapX> (no pun intended) 09:11 < SoapX> guy = person, not guy = Guy 09:11 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 09:11 < mareklug> SoapX it's not that he was rude. he was tarring the review with a broad brush. 09:12 < mareklug> so I felt in 2012 that this needs to be revisited. 09:12 < SoapX> yeah that one was just ignored 09:12 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2008/09#A_specific_signed_and_dated_review_published_as_www.suite101.com.2Farticle.cfm.2Fpoetry_magazine_review.2F76867 09:12 < SoapX> for comparison this is the one from earlier ^^^^^^^^^^ 09:13 < mareklug> SoapX both links lead to the earlier... 09:13 < mareklug> post the second one. 09:13 < SoapX> well you never linked the original request from the second request 09:13 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2013/03 09:14 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2013/03#web.archive.org.2Fweb.2F20021114193900.2Fhttp:.2F.2Fwww.suite101.com.2Farticle.cfm.2Fpoetry_magazine_review.2F76867 09:14 < dtm_> "Despite the deliberate obfuscation with rich graphics on room entry, the online issue is optimized for textual browsing using the Lynx web browser, in fact, in a way that does not involve the use of the mouse or the tab to navigate through the content, just the spacebar and carriage return/enter." this is freakin awesome 09:14 < mareklug> SoapX I can barely find the Help page for tables 09:14 * dtm_ hugs mareklug 09:14 < dtm_> mareklug: can we all get in there and vote to lift the blacklist? 09:15 < dtm_> would that help? 09:15 < dtm_> on grounds of arbitrary capriciousness? 09:15 < SoapX> its not really a votable thing 09:15 < SoapX> it's just one admin saying yes or no 09:15 < mareklug> no, Soap as admin can just add the fucking url to the exceptions. 09:15 < dtm_> on grounds of tyranny against the masses 09:15 < mareklug> massless 09:15 < dtm_> SoapX: so how bout that fucking url, dewd? <3 09:15 < mareklug> unbearable light of being, and all that 09:15 < dtm_> massless and chapped 09:16 < dtm_> coz it really chaps my masses 09:16 < dtm_> good stuff, guys. i really feel like something was accomplished here today, leaving us with a superior encyclopedia. 09:17 < dtm_> let future generations know about it 09:17 < dtm_> it's all about the end product 09:17 < mareklug> SoapX note that the archive falsely lists my request under "3 Requests not done due to failure of requester to reply to queries" 09:17 < mareklug> there were no queries. 09:18 < SoapX> the link http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/poetry_magazine_review/76867 isnt even online anymore 09:18 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:18 < SoapX> its only available through webarchive.org 09:18 < mareklug> which is why I composed the archive.org url and escaped it. 09:18 < SoapX> you probably could have eluded the blacklist by using webcite.org or something 09:18 < mareklug> the web is ephemeral, but in this case, persistent 09:19 < mareklug> i don't know how to use webcite.org 09:20 < SoapX> sorry must be the wrong URL 09:20 < SoapX> there's something else 09:20 < SoapX> http://www.webcitation.org/ 09:20 < SoapX> the WMF is considering buying them 09:20 < GorillaWarfare> Really? 09:21 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:21 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has quit [Quit: jorm] 09:22 < SoapX> their operating budget is surprisingly low 09:22 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:22 < dtm_> ya know, mareklug .... *psssssst* if you're serious about your business, and if we're ever going to achieve notability, i really think you should upgrade to A/UX. *psssst* i could maybe hook a brotha up 09:22 < SoapX> even though the WMF is also short on funds, it really wouldnt be much of an effort to completely fund WebCitation.org as well 09:22 < SoapX> they just would have to agree to lose their independence 09:22 < mareklug> A/UX as in IBM unix? 09:22 < dtm_> mareklug: no, apple's 09:22 < jubo2> how many users do the Wikimedia efforts get each month ..? 09:23 < dtm_> mareklug: also a ram upgrade 09:23 < jubo2> I think I recall it was 480 million but not sure.. 09:23 < Revent> Ye, webcite is making 'going out of business' noises. 09:23 < dtm_> Revent: :( 09:23 < mareklug> dtm I was thinking of the ram upgrade. but system 7.6.3 is fine for me, considering thousands of dollars in software. (it was basically donated by Adobe) 09:23 < dtm_> Revent: maybe WMF is waiting for a lower offer as they circle the drain 09:24 < dtm_> mareklug: *psssssst* you should upgrade that ram 09:24 < mareklug> lemme get my paws on me disks first. 09:24 * dtm_ . o O ( is this keyboard leaky or something? ) 09:24 < dtm_> oh you have paws? well no wonder the stuff's blacklisted; people can understand what you're saying 09:24 < dtm_> when you type it 09:25 < SoapX> i mean seriously 09:25 < SoapX> https://fundrazr.com/campaigns/aQMp7 09:25 < SoapX> their goal is a mere $50,000 09:25 < dtm_> try resubmitting your black-de-listing request, using voice dictation. if you speak english. 09:25 < SoapX> that's less than 1 percent of what Wikipedia wants 09:25 < mareklug> no hablo ingles. soy Bradford, el tonto del pueblo en este canal 09:25 < dtm_> SoapX: wikipedia could enable BING.COM ads for five seconds and earn that kinda scratch!!! 09:25 < SoapX> lol 09:26 < SoapX> anywhere here's the proposal to take over WebCitation.org : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WebCite 09:26 < dtm_> SoapX: man seriously turn it on. if you dont, i will! where's the ads-enabling template?! 09:26 < SoapX> we'll basically envelop it as a Wikipedia extension 09:26 < dtm_> k 09:26 < dtm_> make it so. 09:26 < Revent> Their 'homepage' says they've only raised 7.5k. 09:26 < SoapX> webcite has to agree to it first 09:26 < dtm_> okay! make them agree! 09:26 < SoapX> theyd basically be giving up every bit of control over how their site works 09:27 < dtm_> yeah. sounds like the'yll be doing so pretty soon anyway. 09:27 < dtm_> by the powers of capitalism one way or another 09:27 < SoapX> there's also a few legal issues apparrntly 09:27 < TheDruId> I prefer the powers of crowd sourcing, a la "Stone soup". 09:28 < dtm_> SoapX: because URLs are copyrighted? :-o 09:28 < SoapX> apparently the Europeans are whining about it being illegal under the law of the EU 09:28 < dtm_> what's illegal? 09:28 < SoapX> Im not sure 09:28 < SoapX> "WebCite is a service that is not allowed under European law and that hence may not be run by the Wikimedia Foundation." 09:28 < SoapX> no elaboration was given 09:29 -!- wctaiwan [3de642a2@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:30 < dtm_> whut. 09:30 -!- Kinkreet [~Kinkreet@wikipedia/Kinkreet] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:33 -!- wctaiwan [3de642a2@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has left #wikipedia-en [] 09:33 < dtm_> so what do you cats think about my tutorial on creating biographies? can this be incorporated into an existing document? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Smuckola/Biographies 09:34 < dtm_> i should go reviewing the existing docs out there 09:35 -!- Revent [ad15dd3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-newtwlvuokmjfptg] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 09:36 -!- Denny_WMDE [~Adium@p5DDC60A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:36 -!- Revent [ad15dd3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-hgxysdrwcwvjlkxq] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:36 -!- juliancolton [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:37 < Revent> What was that bio-writing linky again? Lost it in my bounce. 09:41 -!- GingerGeek [~GingerGee@host81-155-83-236.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:41 < SoapX> hi ginger 09:41 < Qcoder00> WebCite is illegal in EU? 09:41 < Qcoder00> How so? 09:41 < Qcoder00> It's a citation service... 09:42 < Qcoder00> and even european copyright permits 'fair dealing for academic purposes.." 09:43 -!- GingerGeek [~GingerGee@host81-155-83-236.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:43 -!- GingerGeek [~GingerGee@host81-155-83-236.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:45 -!- mindspillage [~kat@216.38.130.165] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:45 -!- mindspillage [~kat@216.38.130.165] has quit [Changing host] 09:45 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:47 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:48 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:48 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 09:48 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:49 < SoapX> marek whats your thoughts on this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyqemIbjcfg 09:51 < russavia> http://www.airliners.net/photo/British-Airways/Airbus-A380-841/2262797/L/ not bad 09:52 -!- dirkfranke [~chatzilla@p5DDC60A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 09:52 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:53 < Theo10011> the A-380? 09:55 < russavia> yep 09:56 < Theo10011> Meh, Emirates has 30 of them. :P 09:57 < russavia> you have to understand theo, the poms in here love their BA 09:57 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:57 < Theo10011> oh 09:57 < Corey> /51/51 09:58 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:58 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:59 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:59 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has quit [Client Quit] 10:00 -!- GingerGeek is now known as GingerGeek[Away] 10:03 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Suspect charged in '82 London attack 10:05 -!- Savh|Away [~Savh@wikimedia/Savh] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:07 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:11 -!- Vito_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:12 -!- Vito [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:13 < Qcoder00> Link? 10:14 < TheDruId> Coi, not just a pretty fish. :p 10:17 < Qcoder00> Nasty -http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303 10:17 < IDoH> Heh, TheDruId. 10:18 < TheDruId> o/ 10:21 -!- Savh|Away [~Savh@wikimedia/Savh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:22 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 10:22 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:25 -!- tttb [~tom@host-92-19-123-37.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:26 < SoapX> be vewy vewy quiet. Im hunting wissamphibians 10:27 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:27 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@50-47-210-130.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:27 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@50-47-210-130.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:27 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:27 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:27 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:29 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:29 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:32 -!- tttb [~tom@host-92-19-123-37.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:34 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@g225183068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:41 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@wikimedia/Chenzw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44 -!- tttb [~tom@host-92-19-123-37.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:48 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:49 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:52 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:52 < IDoH> Guess who's back? 10:52 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:52 < Theo10011> Shaq!? 10:52 < Carly> Lol 10:52 < Theo10011> Dr. Dre? 10:53 * Carly brings cakes 10:53 < Jetro> Carly? 10:53 * Jetro slaps the cakes out of Carly's hands. 10:53 < Carly> Jetro? 10:53 < Jetro> :D 10:53 < Carly> NO 10:53 < Carly> MINE 10:53 < Jetro> YES 10:53 < Jetro> I DIDS 10:53 * Jetro runs. 10:53 < Carly> Jetro :| 10:53 < Carly> NO 10:53 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:54 < Carly> Running withouth cakes 10:54 < Carly> * 10:54 < Carly> Xd 10:55 < Jetro> yes 10:55 < TheDruId> Mmn. Calorie-less cakes. Mmn. 10:56 < Carly> Lol 10:56 < Carly> I am going to get a lunch lol 10:57 < Revent> *hmms* Random something I came across... http://tinyurl.com/ogdnrst 10:57 < Revent> Sounds like an interesting novel. 10:57 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:58 -!- lbenedix1 [~lbenedix@dslb-088-075-058-019.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:59 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 11:02 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:03 -!- Theo10011 [~Theo10011@wikimedia/Theo10011] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:04 -!- Theo10011 [~Theo10011@wikimedia/Theo10011] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:04 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:05 < SoapX> 1899 11:07 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:08 -!- Theo10011 [~Theo10011@wikimedia/Theo10011] has quit [Client Quit] 11:09 -!- Lnmow [~Miranda@unaffiliated/lnmow] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:12 -!- YuviPanda is now known as zz_YuviPanda 11:15 -!- David_Stevenson [~David@wikimedia/Moe-Epsilon] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:15 -!- ShreCk [Troll@78.210.16.162] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:15 < ShreCk> Hello 11:16 < Jetro> Hi! 11:16 < Carly> Jetro where are my cakes :| 11:16 < Jetro> I ate them all.. my stomach hurts 11:16 < Jetro> :| 11:16 < Carly> I want them here 11:17 < Carly> Thief 11:17 < Carly> Jetro i hate you. 11:17 < Carly> :| 11:17 < Jetro> No you cannot do that. 11:17 < Jetro> :| 11:17 * Jetro cuddles Carly 11:18 * Carly smiles Jetro 11:19 < Jetro> You smile a Jetro? That seems awkward :| 11:19 < Carly> :| 11:19 -!- lbenedix1 is now known as lbenedix 11:19 * Carly slaps Jetro 11:19 < Jetro> :D 11:20 < Carly> Jetro ? Do you think that is nice to see you?!! 11:20 < Carly> :| 11:23 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:23 -!- FastLizard4|zZzZ is now known as FastLizard4 11:27 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:29 < Revent> You chased her off. *lol* :P 11:29 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:29 < Revent> *duct-tapes Carly to the server* 11:29 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:30 < Carly> What? 11:30 < TheDruId> Revent, Too soon. 11:30 < Revent> I'd made a joke about him chasing you off during your bounce. 11:30 -!- kondi [~kondi@wikimedia/kondicherry] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:31 -!- zz_YuviPanda is now known as YuviPanda 11:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> wtf 11:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> UK terror attack? 11:31 -!- DJMalik [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:32 < Carly> Guys. 11:32 < TheDruId> Link? 11:32 -!- DJMalik is now known as Pote 11:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/22/world/europe/uk-london-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 11:32 < Pote> :° 11:32 < Pote> Carly: ayudame 11:32 < Pote> como hago para poner enforce 11:32 < Pote> |: 11:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dont confuse UK soldiers with livestock! :p 11:34 < Revent> "The men appeared to want to be filmed, he said, saying that one of the attackers went over to a bus and asked people to take photos of him as if he wanted to be on TV." (cringe) 11:34 < kondi> 1 liter milk just turned in fresh cheese :\ 11:34 < Carly> Pote usa /msg nickserv set enforce ON 11:34 < Carly> Para quitarlo es OFF 11:34 < Pote> :D 11:35 < Pote> listo ya nadie usara mi nick pote 11:35 < Pote> :D 11:35 < kondi> no coffee. not fair 11:35 < NotASpy> Revent: yes, there's reports one of the attackers had the chap's head in his hands and asked people to photograph him. 11:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent I think they think CCTV is live tv :p 11:35 -!- Pote is now known as Bradford 11:35 -!- shimgray [~andrew@host81-158-138-116.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:35 -!- shimgray [~andrew@host81-158-138-116.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 11:35 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:35 < Revent> Honestly, crap like this is almost worse than bombings... 11:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> NotASpy why do these dickheads get granted entry in the UK? 11:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent they are worse 11:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it terrorises 11:36 < Revent> That's what I mean....just qualified because, well, mass casualties suck too. 11:37 -!- Mike_HH [~quassel@72.184.56.186] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:37 -!- Bradford is now known as Pote 11:37 -!- Pote is now known as Bradford 11:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mass casualities dont have the same impact anymore 11:37 < Bradford> ready :-) 11:37 < Carly> ^_^ 11:37 -!- TheDruId [4aeff6fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.239.246.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I mean it wont be as bad as 9/11 so its always "not as bad" 11:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> "He has called a meeting of the country's civil emergency committee, known as COBRA, to discuss authorities' response." 11:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there is your problem 11:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dont let cobra run your civil emergency 11:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> GI joe! 11:39 < Revent> Ye, the 'psych' effect is totally different....mass attacks you 'assume' will hit some other guy...'random' little ones are scary. 11:39 < addihockey10> There's stuff that has happened that I deem worse than 9/11 and No major news networks cover this. 11:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I hope this will make such attacks not worth the time for terorists 11:39 < addihockey10> Any act where innocent people are killed is disgusting, don't get me wrong. 11:39 * Carly listens Empire State of Mind 11:39 -!- Mike_H [~quassel@72.184.56.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:40 -!- TheDruId [4aeff6fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.239.246.250] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> addihockey10 sure 11:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but to these people non-believers are sinners by default 11:40 < Revent> *flips mental tracks for a sec to lust after Alicia Keys* :P 11:42 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 11:43 -!- Peter-C [~Peter-C@wikimedia/Peter.C] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:43 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: Yeah, the whole 'mindset' they get wiped into....it's not like a 'real' violent protest, I mean in the 'military action' sense....it's totally self-interested..."I do this, I get this reward after I die." 11:43 < Revent> So effective you have a violent attacker who doesn't *care*....it's schizophrenic. 11:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its not that simple but that is a factor 11:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> these people really feel they are doing good to the world 11:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and they are a holy sacrifice for a better tomorow 11:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if they didnt feel what they do is that noble no incentive would be this effective 11:44 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:44 < BlastHardcheese> lol religion 11:45 < Revent> I know that's a 'simple' explanation.....and I don't mean everyone...but, if you read about the suicide bombers in the middle east and such. 11:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its politics amd re;ogopm 11:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent in israel suicide bombers have a welfare system 11:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes 11:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> elsewhere not so much 11:45 < Revent> There are 'organizers' who are the relious fanatics, and then the down and out depressed kids they use. 11:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> in gaza thats one of the few stable "jobs" available 11:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> organizers are hypocrates mostly 11:46 < Revent> I've heard about similar 'systems' with the british problems. 11:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> UK has a problem where they turn well meaning people into hostile irates 11:46 < Revent> Young immigrants who feel discriminated against. 11:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> anal probing everyone is not a good idea 11:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they are discriminated 11:47 < NotASpy> Revent: still, Nigel Farage will fix everything. 11:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> even tourists feel discriminated 11:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so I am attending a meeting in your country per the invite of your country, why are you attempting to anal probe me? 11:48 < NotASpy> it's a strange middle England thing, there seems to be some sort of irrational feeling about how Britain 'won' the war so should control Europe. 11:48 < TheDruId> Left hand, right hand disassociation. 11:48 < Revent> What I mean about 'self-interest' and 'not care' tho....a 'normal' person who's fighting in a violent conflict still has moral qualms....they feel bad about what they've done, even justified, and usually aren't 'grotesquely' violent. 11:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> people wont become suicide bombers over bullshit customes policies but thats a constant reminder how they should not see UK as the good guys 11:49 < Revent> But.....the mindset these people get in....shooting a cop and cutting the head off a baby is the same thing. 11:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no it isnt but these things arent decided overnight 11:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they have a long time where the negative sentiment builds up 11:49 -!- JZTech101 [~jztech101@c-24-0-88-174.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:49 -!- JZTech101 [~jztech101@c-24-0-88-174.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> My friend was held captive for hours for instance 11:50 < NotASpy> Revent: it's pure religious brainwashing - normal human morals are replaced through extensive brainwashing. It happened with the Protestants and their Catholic extermination in mainland Britain too, though. 11:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> NotASpy it is all about morality 11:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> morality demands so many things if you are subjeguated to it all the time 11:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> these people feel moral 11:50 < TheDruId> The sould suspend immigration until suspects are identified... 11:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats why they dont feel what they do is wrong 11:52 < Revent> NotASpy: Yup... 11:52 < TheDruId> Sorry, *could 11:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TheDruId do you know what that means? 11:53 < Revent> The thing that makes it *complicated*, tbh, is that the 'rational' part of the muslim world that hates the US has a valid point. 11:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent thats not the sentiment most muslims have though 11:53 < Revent> Right... 11:53 < NotASpy> ToAruShiroiNeko: I know what you're saying, but at a fundamental level, regardless of religion, humans have an inbuilt dislike of that sort of violence, so to suppress it in this way, that requires a lot of learning and mental reasoning on the basis that their god has said such an attack is allowable in his name. 11:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there is a difference between not approving US policy and slaughtering any american on sight 11:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> NotASpy right 11:54 < TheDruId> ToAruShiroiNeko, I'm not sure of what you're asking. 11:54 < Revent> Hey, I'm the one who was saying its schizoid. 11:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> suspending immigration means people wont be able to bring their families or end up getting stuck waiting for it (ithout a job) etc whom had nothing to do with the attacks 11:54 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> redundent paperwork doesnt bring security 11:55 < Revent> Yeah, any kind of 'blanket' action will piss off people more than it accomplishes anything, imo. 11:55 < Revent> Stir up *more* resentment. 11:55 -!- D1000|Away [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Demiurge1000] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it just would give more reasons for people to hate the UK gov 11:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> people dont realise how stupid UK/EU immigration is 11:56 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they will send you on a wild goose chace for paper which terrorists will simply forge 11:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> law abiding citizens only gain stress and resenment 11:57 < NotASpy> ToAruShiroiNeko: these people, I imagine, will have been UK born, bred and radicalised 11:57 -!- James_F is now known as James_F|Away 11:57 < Revent> *and feel the government is being hypocritical and racist. 11:57 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:57 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> NotASpy sure 11:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am not saying this is the only problem 11:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but that kind of "special" treatment breeds the resentment 11:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the existence of boatloads of people feeling resentful breeds such hate 11:59 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@g225183068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:00 < TheDruId> Right, because being thankful for the opportunites they have is a lot more difficult. 12:00 -!- Onaka [~Onaka@dsl-sjkbrasgw2-54f8e1-29.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> burocracy that takes months to process that only takes that long for the sake of it is the problem 12:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TheDruId thats the point 12:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there is no opportunity for those people 12:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you end up waiting for months not knowing if you are going to get the necesary paper or not 12:01 < TheDruId> Sorry, should have tagged that /sarcasm. 12:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ah! :p 12:01 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> wait /sarcasm? 12:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> why not use xml tags! 12:02 < Revent> TBH, I don't think the terrorism thing is going to die down until the western countries figure out that stepping into some 'foreign' culture and trying to impose 'your' way of doing things is wrong. 12:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> </sarcasm> :p 12:02 < TheDruId> What are xml tags? 12:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> <foo> </foo> 12:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent I dont agree with this 12:02 < NotASpy> Revent: that, sadly, is now complicated by the genie being very firmly out of the bottle on things like womans rights and even democracy. 12:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foreign cultures have people shooting teachers for having the audacity of teaching women to read 12:03 < Revent> i.e. like in Iraq....trying to 'create' an american style democratic government in a culture that has no 'native' philosophical basis for 'western-style' participatory democracy....just....doesn't work. 12:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent actually 12:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Iraq was a german style democracy 12:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it was designed to fail 12:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> germans managed to stick together despite it 12:04 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:04 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04 < Revent> I'm talking about all the way back to the fall of the Ottoman Empire....whien the Brits set up the 'old' government. 12:04 < NotASpy> this hard line Islam nonsense has only really come about in the past 50 years, up until a few years back, Afghanistan had a very well developed education system, hell, they even had a Marks & Spencer in Kabul. 12:04 < Revent> *in Iraq* 12:05 < TheDruId> ToAruShiroiNeko, thanks; now I know what those are called. :) 12:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent back when ottoman empipre fell borders were drawn to share natural resources among european powers 12:05 < Revent> They ignored the 'local' concepts of territorial boundaries and created a lot of the strife in the first place. 12:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent that was intentional 12:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they didnt ignore it, the exploited it 12:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> why do you think alawites run syria 12:05 < NotASpy> it's easy to control the population when they're too busy fighting each other to worry about fighting with the British troops... 12:05 < Revent> I know... and so do the locals, and that's why the 'older ones' hate us. 12:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or sunnis run iraq? 12:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or kurds now 12:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> put minority in charge and they will always support you 12:06 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> NotASpy and also if the leadership depends on you for its survival 12:06 < Revent> And when 70 years later you come back and try to claim you're making it 'democratic' now, they don't trust you.... 12:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 70? 12:07 -!- Carly- [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> more like 40 years 12:07 < Revent> vaguely.... 12:07 < Revent> Was aiming more at the Leauge of Nations 'stewardship' period. 12:07 < Revent> *League even 12:07 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@g225183068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:09 -!- dandv [~dandv@li88-195.members.linode.com] has left #wikipedia-en ["ISON *status"] 12:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> LoN was a failiure 12:10 < Revent> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Iraqa#British_mandate_and_Kingdom_of_Iraq 12:10 < Revent> ^ the first time we screwed them over. 12:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent lots of it 12:11 < Revent> *lol without the random a in the middle works better 12:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ottoman empire was bound to fail though 12:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> with or without european involvement 12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> borders would have been much different though 12:12 < TheDruId> Every country is bound to fail, eventually. 12:12 < Revent> Yeah...it was a 'unclaimed' area (in a sense) after WWI...the Brits just did the exact wrong thing from a long term perspective. 12:12 < Revent> (pick a puppet, and puppet) 12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent back then politics was 12:12 < Revent> *any 12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> a little war is good for business 12:12 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has quit [Quit: rebooting computer] 12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> after ww1 that sentiment slowly changed 12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> after ww2 no one was pro-war 12:13 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:13 < Revent> Ye...hell, we supported Saddam in the Iran-Iraq War, and he was just as big of a shit then. 12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> saddam was worth the investment 12:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> he was against the iranians that just overthrew their government and held US hostages 12:14 < Revent> Oh, yeah, letting Iran win would have been *extremely* bad. 12:14 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> iranian millitary got demolished 12:14 < TheDruId> Saddam was /not/ worth the investment, the US just thought the alternative was worse, at the time. 12:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent it would have been 12:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TheDruId thats what I mean 12:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its a net negative but less so than the alternative 12:15 < Revent> Any side in a war that resort to human wave attacks deserves to lose....miserably. 12:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent they executed their millitary officers 12:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what do you expect? 12:15 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:15 < Gigs-> TheDruId: the investment wasn't in saddam, it was in spending a lot of government money 12:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it turns out having a well trained millitary is kind of a necesity on the middle east 12:15 < Revent> Yup....we don't trust the military, so we'll send out unarmed civilians (sigh). 12:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent it wasnt a case of trust 12:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> millitary represented the old gov 12:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so execute them 12:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> why need generals when you could send peasants 12:16 -!- Bradford is now known as Brad|duerme 12:16 < TheDruId> Gigs-, resulting in two nations fighting. lose/lose/lose, though the US didn't think of that at the time. 12:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Iraq managed to stalemante tho 12:16 < Revent> Right....but even the 'lower level' professionals that survived the purge weren't used. 12:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TheDruId a weaker Iran was the idea 12:17 < Revent> They has tanks sitting in kazerne while they were using human wave attacks. 12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent vecause it wasa holy fight 12:17 < Revent> *had 12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no way god would adandone them? 12:17 < Gigs-> TheDruId: two nations fighting ... that's like saying that stepping on a bug is a battle between a human and a bug 12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent then iran discovered photoshop 12:17 < Revent> *lol* 12:18 < Dcoetzee> ⱭⱭⱭⱭⱭX 12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I wish more wars were fought through photoshop 12:18 < TheDruId> Instead it acted like sharpening two blades simultaneously. 12:18 < Dcoetzee> Hmmm backwards Ds 12:18 < Revent> *notes that I guess I'm sufficiently 'anonymous' here for a vague mention that I have 'illegally' been in Iran. 12:18 < Gigs-> looks more like alpha to me Dcoetzee 12:18 < Dcoetzee> It might be alpha 12:19 * BlastHardcheese dispatches the delta force strike team to Revent's location 12:19 < Dcoetzee> Yeah it's capital alpha 12:19 < Revent> This was a *long* time ago. 12:19 < Gigs-> Dcoetzee: well more like a capital sized lower case alpha 12:19 < Dcoetzee> Yes 12:19 < Gigs-> capital alpha is usually just A 12:19 -!- Carly- [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Quit: Never look where you come from , but where you're going.] 12:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gigs- no 12:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats A from latin alphabet 12:19 -!- zz_zz_zz_Nascar1 is now known as nas 12:19 < Dcoetzee> It's http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2c6d/index.htm LATIN CAPITAL LETTER ALPHA 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee why so alpha? 12:20 < Revent> Ye, 'latin' letters and 'roman' letters aren't the same 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> romans were boring 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no sense of xbox 12:20 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: Because it's the least dangerous type of radiation 12:20 < Revent> No serifs, for one thing. 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee sure 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> actually no 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> least dangeorus is probably light 12:20 < Dcoetzee> True that 12:21 < Dcoetzee> I wonder if there are creatures on Earth so photosensitive that they'll die if exposed to sunlight 12:21 < Revent> BlastHardcheese: FWIW, I got to watch a seal team do 'practice' battle-surface deployments from a submarine....those guys are nuts. 12:22 < Gigs-> Dcoetzee: almost all of them? :P 12:22 < TheDruId> Dcoetzee, well, there was that one type of dinosaur, a nobodysaurus. 12:22 < Revent> Its dangerous as hell... 12:22 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:23 < Gigs-> sunlight might as well be considered toxic to all animal life, like most toxins it really depends on dose 12:23 < Revent> Dcoetzee: umm...there's a microbiological term... 12:23 < Dcoetzee> Well obviously if someone fires a very high intensity visible light laser at you 12:23 < Dcoetzee> That could kill you 12:24 < Gigs-> no I'm saying regular sunlight is pretty bad 12:24 < Gigs-> you get synthesis of vitamin D but most of the other effects are damaging 12:24 < Dcoetzee> Yeah UV radiation, I get it 12:24 < Revent> Naah, I mean...one of the 'odd corners' of microbiology....iirc it's the 'sulfur eating' bacteria that live inside tubeworms or something like that. 12:24 < Dcoetzee> Revent: Interesting 12:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee possibly single celled but unlikely to be honest 12:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you wouldnt be able to see it 12:25 -!- Sixsmith [41af89e1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.175.137.225] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:25 < Dcoetzee> That's what I figure 12:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the sepcimen would be destroyed by the time you attempt to obseve it 12:25 < Gigs-> there are lots of cave dwelling variants that would not survive well in sunlight 12:25 < TheDruId> Such a creature would inevitably be an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile 12:25 < Revent> Sunlight (without an ozone layer) is toxic... 12:25 < Dcoetzee> TheDruId: Yep 12:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gigs- sunlight wouldnt kill them 12:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent actually no 12:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sunlight with or without ozone is toxic 12:26 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:26 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has quit [Changing host] 12:26 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:26 < Gigs-> not right away, but they are very poorly adapted to a lit environment 12:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you just adapted to survive it 12:26 -!- Headbomb [~chatzilla@Wikipedia/Headbomb] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gigs- preditors would kill them first probably :) 12:26 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: Ye, I just mean if the ozone layer disappeared tomorrow, most life would curl up and die. 12:26 < Dcoetzee> Gigs-: That makes sense actually... like an underground creature like a mole would not survive very well wandering blindly around out in the open sunlight. 12:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent under water life would survive just fine 12:26 < Gigs-> ToAruShiroiNeko: yeah there's not many white bugs crawling around 12:26 < IShadowed_> whores 12:26 < IShadowed_> sup 12:26 -!- IShadowed_ is now known as IShadowed 12:26 * Dcoetzee hugs IShadowed 12:27 * ToAruShiroiNeko tackles IShadowed 12:27 < IShadowed> I have a maths quiz to take 12:27 < IShadowed> pity me 12:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pitty the shadow 12:27 < Dcoetzee> IShadowed: I was speculating whether there's a creature that can be killed by exposure to normal sunlight 12:27 < IShadowed> my life is so hard guys 12:27 < IShadowed> errrr 12:27 < Dcoetzee> IShadowed: You'll do okay :-) Good luck 12:27 < IShadowed> my life is so hard, guys* 12:27 < IShadowed> there aren't too many hard guys 12:27 < IShadowed> yeah 12:27 < IShadowed> :| 12:27 < Dcoetzee> Wow math is making you forget commas 12:27 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: From the rads, yeah, but it would totally screw up the oxygen cycle....I don't think most fish and such would make it. 12:28 < IShadowed> Shirik made me forget commas 12:28 < IShadowed> such a bad influence 12:28 < Revent> Deep-sea life would do a lot better. 12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent there are studies on that 12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the damage would happen over time 12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and the sea has its own oxygen supply from algae 12:28 -!- kondi [~kondi@wikimedia/kondicherry] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ozone would reform eventually 12:29 < TheDruId> A lot of biomass would return to the oceans, causing a resurgence. 12:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> life would survive on earth without an atmospehere 12:29 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'm not surprised people have studied it....I'll freely admit I'm 'handwaving' :) It's IRC. 12:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or the sun 12:29 -!- Thehelpfulone [~Helper@wikimedia/Thehelpfulone] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there is a video by vsaouce that explains it nicely 12:29 < Gigs-> we would have an atmosphere if we had water though toaru 12:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rltpH6ck2Kc 12:29 < Gigs-> if you really have no atmostphere then you have no vapor pressure to keep the water from boiling off 12:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gigs- more like freezing 12:30 < Gigs-> no boiling 12:30 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:30 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'm more familiar with that kind of thing from the 'astronomical' side....i.e. planets that are in 'dynamic equilibrium' 12:30 < Gigs-> it would be cold, but it would be boiling 12:30 < Revent> Which would no be anything with life. 12:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gigs- water can be frozen or gas without presure 12:30 -!- Thehelpfulone [~Helper@2002:6da9:306f::6da9:306f] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:30 -!- Thehelpfulone [~Helper@2002:6da9:306f::6da9:306f] has quit [Changing host] 12:30 -!- Thehelpfulone [~Helper@wikimedia/Thehelpfulone] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:30 < Gigs-> if you shoot water out of the space shuttle, some of it boils and some of it freezes 12:31 < Gigs-> and then the frozen stuff eventually sublimates 12:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> solid water sinks in vaper but also floats over liquid 12:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so an ice layer would form 12:31 -!- rr0 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OTOH.... http://www.sciencemag.org/content/339/6117/292.abstract 12:34 -!- Peter-C [Peter-C@wikimedia/Peter.C] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:34 < Revent> Maybe half a meter or so... 12:34 < Gigs-> heh mercury is a unique place 12:34 < Gigs-> there's a small part of it potentially habitable to humans 12:35 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 12:35 < TheDruId> Gigs-, each place is a unique place. :D 12:35 < Revent> There were quite a few 'classic' sci-fi stories about 'rolling' mining colonies on Mercury.....tracking the terminator. 12:35 < TheDruId> Gigs-, ...just like everywhere else. 12:35 < Gigs-> well sure, but the orbit/spin rate 12:35 < Revent> It's an established 'meme' in the space community. 12:35 -!- muskrat2 [~musk@dyn2-85-23-163-121.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:36 < Revent> Mercury rotates /really/ slow... 12:36 < Revent> *looks* 58.646 days. 12:37 < Gigs-> it's mostly a coincedence right? I mean there's physics reasons why it's more likely that our moon is the way it is where we only see one side of it right? 12:37 < Revent> It actually works out to not much over walking speed. 12:37 < Gigs-> but with mercury it didn't have to be that way 12:37 < Revent> sec.... 12:37 < Revent> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking 12:37 < Gigs-> yeah that sounds familiar 12:37 -!- reminisc1nce [nifky@creep.bur.st] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:38 < TheDruId> Revent, Me, too. 12:38 < Revent> Yeah, in the case of mercury the 'gravitational gradient' isn't steep enough to have damped it's rotation yet. 12:38 < Revent> Give it anouther 1/2 billion years or so. 12:38 -!- Scott_Ma1tin [hex@u.nix.is] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:38 < Gigs-> so eventually it'll tidal lock to the sun? 12:38 -!- notapuff_ [~cremepuff@67-61-22-169.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:39 < TheDruId> Or get swallowed by the corona, knocked into, moved by us... 12:39 < Revent> Pretty much.....there'll be 'some' rotation left from the 'J2' effect of other planets, but not much...a 'wobble' 12:39 < SoapX> the sun will eat the Earth 12:39 < Gigs-> not that soon 12:39 < TheDruId> Unless we move out. 12:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gigs- it is very possible to surive without an atmospehere 12:40 < Revent> SoapX: 'the sun' will eat the earth is pretty vague.....not 'technically' true... 12:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> earth wouldnt remain warm enough without the sun long enough 12:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> in about a decade you wouldnt have gas 12:40 < Revent> SoapX: As the sun ages and mass-distribution changes the planets will move outward 12:40 < Gigs-> ToAruShiroiNeko: huh? 12:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> just watch vsauce 12:41 < SoapX> y'all are in denial. it's gonna happen 12:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it explains what would happen if sun were to vaish 12:41 < Revent> The earth will end up technically 'in' the suns atmosphere, but it won't be vaporized. 12:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> atmospehere would freeze 12:41 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_the_sun#Future 12:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent there are conflicting studies on that 12:41 < Gigs-> it's OK the voyagers have left the solar system so many times (according to the news reports) we clearly need to have a theory regarding this. 12:41 < TheDruId> It's inevitable until it isn't. We will not go willingly. 12:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> earths orbit may increase with intense solar winds 12:41 < Gigs-> the solar system expands to accommodate the news media 12:41 < SoapX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Giant_Earth_warm.jpg <--- it's gonna happen! 12:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gigs- solar systems borders are disputed 12:42 < Revent> Gigs-: That's not it....it's a 'vagueness' as to the definition of where the heliopause is. 12:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gigs- that is kind of true 12:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the magnetic field seems to be more of a wave like membrane that wiggles 12:42 < TheDruId> Oddly, by decreasing the mass of the sun, we'd give it a longer life expectancy and prevent that. 12:42 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ScottSteiner, VunKruz, muskrat, YuviPanda, Fluff|away, notapuff, Chris_G, Scott_Martin, Koi, RD, (+2 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 12:43 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Fluff|away 12:43 < nas> Meh 12:43 < GorillaWarfare> Whoops 12:43 < Revent> TheDruId: Or other 'cosmic engineering' tricks. 12:43 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:43 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has quit [Changing host] 12:43 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:43 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: No buffer space available] 12:43 < SoapX> true, we should shoot missiles at the sun to shrink it down some more 12:43 < Revent> i.e. using a properly chosen planet to 'poison' the sun with metals 12:43 -!- Chris_G [~chris@wikipedia/Chris-G] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:44 < SoapX> we could even do that today to stop global warming 12:44 -!- gde33|2 [~gde33@546A1A51.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:44 < Gigs-> yeah and shoot a lot of water on it, take that sun, it couldn't possibly do anything with water! 12:44 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:44 -!- YuviPanda [~YuviPanda@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:44 < Gigs-> class Z fire supression: kitchen grease fires, fusion reactions 12:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TheDruId great idea 12:44 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I will send avacume cleaner to suck up all the plasma :p 12:44 < SoapX> I wonder how much water it would take to stop the sun from burning 12:44 -!- Kinny [~Kinny@unaffiliated/kinny] has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:44 < Revent> SoapX: Not quite how it works lol. :P 12:44 < Gigs-> SoapX: wonder no more, the sun would eat the water and burn it :P 12:44 < Dcoetzee> So I just picked up a can of "LOW SODIUM V8" 12:44 < Dcoetzee> Look at the ingredient label 12:45 < Dcoetzee> 200mg of sodium per can 12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> SoapX water would sink to the core 12:45 < Revent> Ye, H2O is pretty decent fusion fuel. 12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so you would increase the mass 12:45 < addihockey10> Ooooo 12:45 -!- Kinny [~Kinny@unaffiliated/kinny] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> once the mass is too much it would heat up more 12:45 < Gigs-> pretty much any mass you add to the sun would just fuel it more, except for something that could poison the chain reaction like revent alluded to 12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so with lots of water you would heat up the sun 12:45 < Dcoetzee> Could we please not destroy the sun 12:45 < TheDruId> ToAruShiroiNeko, send it at night, so it won't overheat. 12:45 < Gigs-> maybe 12:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it would just use fuel faster 12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TheDruId :D 12:46 < Revent> Ya got to realize, anything you add is going to be a fully ionized plasma long before it even reaches the 'surface' of the sun... 12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> suns energy depends on its mass 12:46 < Gigs-> Dcoetzee: we can't fall behind in the race for sun-destroying weapons 12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it has enough mass to compress hydrogen so they fuse 12:46 < Gigs-> Dcoetzee: can you imagine if brown people had them and we didn't? 12:46 < IShadowed_> I'd like to destroy the sun 12:46 < SoapX> so if we shoot metal at the sun it will slow down global warming 12:46 < IShadowed_> I don't like the sun 12:46 -!- gde33 [~gde33@546A1A51.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 274 seconds] 12:46 < Revent> And 'migration times' from the surface down to the 'fusion region' are on the order of millions of years. 12:46 < Dcoetzee> IShadowed: I think you'd miss it if it was gone 12:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> IShadowed that requires math 12:46 < IShadowed_> Dcoetzee, nope 12:47 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:47 < Dcoetzee> I'm not a big fan of the sun either, but I also like not freezing to death 12:47 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:47 -!- Lnmow [~Miranda@unaffiliated/lnmow] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:47 < SoapX> lets compromise and only destroy half of it 12:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee easy solution, use a remote to turn down suns heat 12:47 < Gigs-> sun reform 12:47 < Revent> The light coming out of the sun is energy from fusion reactions that took place when we were still hanging in trees. 12:47 < Gigs-> leaner, more efficient, less black holey 12:47 -!- Lnmow [~Miranda@unaffiliated/lnmow] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:47 < SoapX> oh that reminds me i wanted to make a photoshop plugin that turns the sun black 12:47 < Dcoetzee> Incidentally, when I was a kid my dad had a videotape from a Christian organization full of songs. One of the songs explained how God is literally the sun, and (confusingly) how the sun creates gravity and prevents us from floating off into space 12:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gigs- fossil fuels are solar power in that sense 12:48 < IShadowed_> .... 12:48 < IShadowed_> Dcoetzee, wat 12:48 < IShadowed_> .. 12:48 -!- IShadowed_ is now known as IShadowed 12:48 < Dcoetzee> I'm pretty sure this doesn't square with either science or standard theology 12:48 < Gigs-> if we don't act to prevent anthrogenic solar mass increase, in 100 years my computer simulation says the sun will be much larger 12:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee many cultures worshiped the sun 12:48 < IShadowed> I have not eaten yet 12:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am glad your dad didnt pull out your heart and sacrificed it to the sun gods 12:48 -!- VunKruz [~hhhh@108-206-230-100.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:49 < IShadowed> 5/10 only half glad 12:49 < Revent> Dcoetzee: Zoroastrianism 12:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee so it unites sicence and religion in their hatered? :p 12:49 < Gigs-> Dcoetzee: the god/sun entanglement is deep in a lot of religion 12:49 < Revent> Dcoetzee: there are 'hybrids' of Zoroastrian theology buried in Christianity. 12:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> few people realize we owe are exitence to oter suns 12:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *other 12:50 < Revent> Ye, we are stardust. 12:50 < Gigs-> I blame a particular sperm and egg personally 12:50 < Dcoetzee> The song also explained how without the sun there would be no food and we would die of hunger. Which is true, but you'd freeze to death first... 12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont like to think of myself as star dust 12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> rather star corpse :p 12:50 -!- Niza [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:50 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee actually 12:50 < Revent> (which I find personally asthetically 'beautiful') 12:50 < Gigs-> or to go full circle, god's debris? :) 12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you can survive for quite sometime without the sun 12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you'd sufficate first 12:50 -!- idoru [idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since atmospehere would freeze 12:51 < Gigs-> how would we possibly not freeze to death before the atmosphere froze? 12:51 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'm pretty sure people freeze to death at a higher temperature than nitrogen 12:51 < IShadowed> ^ 12:51 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: Kinda like the way they show 'explosive decompression' is always totally wrong....not how peeps would die. 12:51 < Gigs-> in real life it wouldn't be very spectacular Revent not good movie material 12:52 < Gigs-> although 2001 had a pretty realistic depiction 12:52 < IShadowed> "What is the value of the expression? Do not use a calculator" 12:52 < IShadowed> LOL 12:52 < Dcoetzee> IShadowed: Don't use a calculator! They'll KNOW 12:52 < Revent> You could make it 'gory'.....vomiting your lungs, essentially... 12:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee unless you are outside without clothes 12:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you'd probably be in a bunker 12:52 < Gigs-> write an essay about the moral imperative expressed by the directive not to use a calculator 12:52 < IShadowed> Dcoetzee, shhhhhhhhhh 12:52 * IShadowed tiptoes 12:53 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: I guess a bunker warmed with geothermal energy might be able to survive for a little while... but can't you like, pump in cold air and warm it or something? 12:53 < Gigs-> ToAruShiroiNeko: I guess you are assuming a lot of warning 12:53 < Revent> "At NASA's Manned Spacecraft Center (now renamed Johnson Space Center) we had a test subject accidentally exposed to a near vacuum (less than 1 psi) in an incident involving a leaking space suit in a vacuum chamber back in '65. He remained conscious for about 14 seconds, which is about the time it takes for O2 deprived blood to go from the lungs to 12:53 < Revent> the brain. The suit probably did not reach a hard vacuum, and we began repressurizing the chamber within 15 seconds. The subject regained consciousness at around 15,000 feet equivalent altitude. The subject later reported that he could feel and hear the air leaking out, and his last conscious memory was of the water on his tongue beginning to boil 12:53 < Revent> ." 12:54 < Dcoetzee> Revent: Wow 12:54 < Gigs-> yeah you could survive a little while outside a space ship 12:54 < Gigs-> if you don't exhale though, you'd die pretty quickly 12:54 < Revent> Dcoetzee: If you want I can find a pic of the test chamber... 12:54 < Gigs-> like divers coming up in an emergency and trying to hold their breath 12:54 < IShadowed> ... 12:54 < Gigs-> causes massive damage if they don't exhale 12:55 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@188-67-211-186.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Beams.] 12:55 < IShadowed> > He remained conscious for about 14 seconds, which is about the time it takes for O2 deprived blood to go from the lungs to the brain 12:55 < IShadowed> TIL 12:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> needless to say I like 1 atm environments tyvm 12:55 -!- Niza [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has left #wikipedia-en ["Never"] 12:55 < Revent> Gigs-: Actually, kinda the opposite....because the differential pressure is only 14 psi....you could squeeze your nose and mouth shut. 12:55 < Gigs-> how many feet of water is that reven 12:55 < Revent> Deep sea divers are dealing with hundreds of psi. 12:55 < Dcoetzee> Gigs-: I've heard it said that drawing a deep breath before being exposed directly to a vaccuum could lead to lung implosion 12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> human body is designed to withstand pressure 12:56 < Revent> 1 atm is like 20 feet. 12:56 -!- muskrat2 [~musk@dyn2-85-23-163-121.psoas.suomi.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:56 < Gigs-> hmm maybe you could hold your breath in vacuum then 12:56 < Revent> (vaguely) 12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee the air does want to get out, yes 12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you really wouldnt care either way 12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you have a few seconds to live anyways 12:56 < Revent> Yeah...a matter of 10 secs vs 15 secs kind of thing. 12:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> as long as you can hold your breath 12:56 < Dcoetzee> Well you'd be unconscious very quickly... but I wonder how long you could live after passing out 12:56 < Dcoetzee> If you are recovered 12:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> like I said 12:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> as long as you can hold your breath more or less 12:57 < Revent> You've got about 4 minutes before brain damage from lack of oxygen. 12:57 < Gigs-> you'd probably live if you were recovered in a reasonable amount of time and had advanced medical support 12:57 -!- SudoGhost [~SudoGhost@75-139-138-226.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:57 -!- SudoGhost [~SudoGhost@75-139-138-226.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 12:57 -!- SudoGhost [~SudoGhost@wikipedia/SudoGhost] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:57 < Dcoetzee> ...so exposure to a vaccuum is basically like drowning? 12:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee initially yes 12:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> your blood and etc would boil 12:57 < Gigs-> well you might get unlucky and get a gas bubble from your blood to your brain or something 12:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but long after you are dead 12:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> youd sufficate first 12:58 < Revent> Gigs-: Actually yeah, an anyeursm (sic) would probably be the 'proximate' cause of death. 12:58 < SudoGhost> Your blood would not boil in space. 12:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I propose we presurize space to prevnt this 12:58 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:58 < Dcoetzee> Your blood would boil in space if it were outside your body :-) 12:58 < Gigs-> Revent: embolism 12:59 < Dcoetzee> Like if some dude chops you in half and tosses you out an airlock 12:59 < Revent> Gigs-: Ye, one of those... :) 12:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee your skin would have bursting here and there 12:59 < David_Stevenson> I think the chopping in half might be the cause of death 12:59 < David_Stevenson> :< 12:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you would eventually become jerky 12:59 < Revent> Intact skin easily holds 1 atm of pressure... 12:59 < Gigs-> I don't know toaru... the pressure isn't really high enogh to break your skin 13:00 < SudoGhost> http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970603.html 13:00 < Revent> Push a nail against your arm....that's more pressure than air. 13:00 < Dcoetzee> One thing I wonder 13:00 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00 < Gigs-> I liked the joke on futurama revent... they were taking the space ship under water and someone asked what pressure it was rated for... the professor says "it's a space ship, so .. 1 atmosphere" 13:00 < Dcoetzee> If you had a fresh cut on your arm from a knife 13:00 < Dcoetzee> Before you went into a vaccuum 13:01 < Dcoetzee> What would happen? 13:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent it wouldnt be intact 13:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> your skin would freeze compromising its ingegrity 13:01 < Gigs-> you'd be long dead before your skin froze 13:01 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: You lose temperature extremely slowly in space 13:01 < Gigs-> space is an excellent insulator 13:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure 13:01 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: I was talking about a 'generic' exposure to vacuum....leaky airlock or something. 13:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuou are already dead 13:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> this is what happens after 13:02 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: You can't lose heat by induction, only by radiation 13:02 < SudoGhost> Dcoetzee: See, personally I'm still 12 years old inside, so I just wonder this: if you fart in zero gravity, would it propel you forwards, or would the fart just stay there torturing you? 13:02 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: Fair enough then, yeah....eventually when you freeze... 13:02 -!- Gnumarcoo [~marco@wikipedia/Gnumarcoo] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee space isnt completely empty 13:02 < Revent> Dcoetzee: You'd lose a lot of heat through evaporation... 13:02 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: It might as well be, for purposes of induction, the gas is so rarified 13:02 < Revent> *sublimation* 13:02 < Dcoetzee> Revent: True that 13:03 < Gigs-> SudoGhost: hmmm both? 13:03 < Dcoetzee> SudoGhost: The fart would propel you, I believe, but by a very small amount 13:03 < SudoGhost> Gigs-: That would be both awesome and horrifying. 13:03 < Revent> Dcoetzee: The spacesuits they use now are 'open cycle' cooling.....they just vent coolant out to space. 13:03 < Gigs-> SudoGhost: the diffusion of the fart would occur at about the same rate as on earth, and you'd only be propelled a little bit 13:03 < Revent> That's why the stay times are so short. 13:04 < TheDruId> ToAruShiroiNeko, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g4d-rnhuSg&feature=player_embedded 13:04 < Gigs-> SudoGhost: methane is roughly the same density as air so the effects of zero g on that would be minimal 13:04 < SudoGhost> Damn. 13:04 < SudoGhost> Oh well. 13:04 < Revent> Ye, the mass of a fart compered to a person is pretty low... 13:05 * GorillaWarfare tabbed back into this channel at a weird time 13:05 < TheDruId> :) 13:05 < Gigs-> we're just playing the home version of xkcd what-if 13:05 -!- GingerGeek[Away] is now known as GingerGeek 13:05 < Revent> GW: random evolution of a conv about dying in outer space. 13:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee with no friction bursts of farts could get you to ridilcous speeds 13:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you need LOTS of farts tho 13:05 < Gigs-> or superfluidic farts 13:06 < GorillaWarfare> Well, I've been following the discussion a bit, but I was out for a few minutes 13:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> diaria would propell you further probably 13:06 < SudoGhost> ToAruShiroiNeko: That could be arranged. 13:06 -!- guillom is now known as basile 13:06 < Revent> I suspect it would be more of a 'shart' of whatever was in there at the time all at once. 13:07 < Gigs-> http://i.imgur.com/BFCHmhv.gif 13:07 < Revent> *hehs* I need to make a wiktionary entry for 'shart'. :P 13:08 < Dcoetzee> In principle you could accelerate something to an arbitrarily fast speed given enough farts 13:08 < Gigs-> webster new words for 2014 13:08 < Revent> Oh, I didn't invent it... :) 13:08 < Revent> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shart 13:08 < SoapX> some people are apparently eat fish bones 13:08 < Gigs-> Dcoetzee: well not arbitrary, you'd need farts approaching infinity the closer you got to the speed of light 13:09 < Dcoetzee> Right, the problem is that you need more and more gas initially present to expel... and that increases your mass 13:09 < Revent> The inclusion of a 'shart video' is priceless.... 13:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ass based propellant systems inc. 13:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ABPS 13:09 < Gigs-> Dcoetzee: you could carry beans instead 13:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> beans wouldnt be as efficient without gravity 13:10 -!- lbenedix [~lbenedix@g231250104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:10 < Dcoetzee> Anyway I'm pretty sure if you intend to leverage human muscular power, a simple exercise bike charging a battery would be more efficient :-P 13:10 -!- DivT [~Umut@c83-251-213-231.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10 < Dcoetzee> I'm not sure how you turn battery power into thrust... but I'm sure it's possible? 13:10 < Gigs-> yeah ion drive is pretty simple way 13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes 13:11 < Gigs-> to directly turn electricity into thrust 13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ion drive 13:11 < Revent> TBH, the use of a 'biological' system to convert biomass to propellant would be a 'generation ship' kind of idea... 13:11 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has quit [Quit: While there's life, there's hope.] 13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> bio ships exist! 13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> in sci fi :p 13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> remember the space worm that made love to the enterpise? 13:12 < Dcoetzee> ToAruShiroiNeko: To be fair, the Enterprise is like super hot 13:12 < Revent> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_Specific_Impulse_Magnetoplasma_Rocket 13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dcoetzee right 13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its just THAT hot 13:12 < Revent> ^ this is basically what will eventually turn into a fusion torch drive. 13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> VSIMR 13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent then need a better abreviation 13:12 -!- zscout370 [~zscout370@108-247-186-200.lightspeed.fyvlar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:12 -!- zscout370 [~zscout370@108-247-186-200.lightspeed.fyvlar.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:12 -!- zscout370 [~zscout370@wikipedia/Zscout370] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:13 < Revent> VASIMR....they say 'vas-mir' 13:13 < Gigs-> so they put a candle in a microwave and put it in space and called it a fancy name 13:13 < Revent> *used to know some of the grad students who interned in that shop at the space center in Houston. 13:14 < Revent> Gigs-: (lols) Yeah, but the engineering involved in making it work is a bit intense... 13:15 < Revent> The 'long term' idea would be to replace the heat source with a working fusion reaction..... 13:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent sounds russian 13:15 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: Franklin Chang-Diaz is Costa Rican... 13:15 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:15 < Revent> (the austronaut who's lead scientist) 13:15 -!- Guest61955 [~hrmmm@freiwuppertal.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:16 -!- GingerGeek is now known as GingerGeek[Away] 13:16 -!- GingerGeek[Away] [~GingerGee@host81-155-83-236.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 13:16 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:17 -!- Koi [uid10416@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-drawrcnqmsxrqxfj] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:17 < Gigs-> Revent: it's interesting but the nozzle seems a little... conventional 13:17 < Revent> Gigs-: In the photos? It's because of the way the vacuum lab is built.....that's not a 'flight' design.... 13:18 < TheDruId> It'll get better once we understand the anti-gravity techniques of cat's tongues. 13:18 < Gigs-> oh ok 13:18 < Revent> They're basically venting into the intake of a huge wind tunnel. 13:18 < Revent> The entire thing has to be at high vacuum before it works... 13:18 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:18 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 13:18 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:19 < Revent> Otherwise 'very' expensive internal pieces catch on fire in rather spectacular fashion. 13:20 < Gigs-> I don't know, later on they mention exhaust divergence losses 13:20 -!- Guest33678 [~hrmmm@freiwuppertal.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:20 < Gigs-> there has to be a reason, but it seems like a simple columnar output would be ideal for something like this 13:20 -!- nas is now known as zz_nas 13:21 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:21 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:21 < Revent> That's a 'technical' issue.....the 'ideal' design of a rocket nozzle varies depending on the ambient pressure. 13:21 < Revent> Even at high vacuum, you still want 'some' compression....look at a photo of the Apollo Service Module engine. 13:22 < Gigs-> ok lets strap one to a bicycle 13:22 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:23 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@ubuntu/member/logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:23 < Revent> *hehs* sec... 13:24 < Revent> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srRoOXndx38 13:24 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:24 < Revent> I love 'homemade' jet engines.... 13:24 -!- GorillaWarfare [6c14245e@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:25 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:25 < Gigs-> is that coaxial? 13:25 < Revent> It's a pulse jet 13:25 < Gigs-> yeah I'm used to seeing them in a U shape though 13:25 < Revent> subsonic ramjet design....they're using the leafblower to get the draft. 13:26 < Revent> It's /very/ halfass, but amusing. 13:26 < Koi> why is this channel still -t? 13:26 < Koi> Susan: pls no more abuze. 13:26 < Gigs-> I built a large propane torch that is open on both ends Revent 13:26 < Revent> They get it lit about 2 minutes in. 13:26 < Gigs-> sometimes when I light it it oscillates a little bit 13:26 < SoapX> -t is the way to be 13:27 < Gigs-> Accidental pulse jet hehe 13:27 < Revent> Gigs-: Even more fun is an 'accidental potato gun'. :) 13:28 < CrackyWacky> Hello 13:28 < Fyre> Hey CrackyWacky <3 13:28 < CrackyWacky> Fyre: <3 13:28 < Revent> Gigs-: You'll like this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjSpp_7jECI 13:28 < Gigs-> heh this almost looks like my propane torch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1YJEi-R9c 13:28 < CrackyWacky> PROPANE! 13:28 < Gigs-> except mine is open on both ends 13:28 < Fyre> i sell propane and propane accessories 13:29 < CrackyWacky> lol 13:29 < Revent> They're putting an awful lot of trust in that vise.... 13:29 < Gigs-> if it doesn't slip out I doubt it would break it 13:29 < TheDruId> 6 will arrive simultaneousle in 2023. 13:29 < Gigs-> I've put all my weight on a vise that size with a 3 foot breaker bar before 13:29 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:30 < Revent> Yeah, I just meant slipping out and going for a nice trip around the area... 13:30 < Revent> Not breaking. 13:30 < CrackyWacky> it ain't breaking! 13:30 < Fyre> you know that! 13:31 < Gigs-> my torch is fun but it uses a lot of propane 13:31 < Fyre> Can i get a amen? 13:31 < CrackyWacky> AMEN! 13:31 < Carly> Xd 13:32 < Gigs-> on a disposable size bottle it freezes too quickly. a grill sized bottle is good for longer, but still better in a water bath to keep it warm 13:32 < Revent> As far as 'crazy dangerous as hell ideas'..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panjandrum 13:32 < Gigs-> can get my large crucible hot enough to melt aluminum in about 10 minutes though 13:33 < Revent> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0s2SblTcqM 13:34 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:34 < Revent> (the 'recreation' was intentionally very underpowered for safety) 13:35 < Gigs-> I've always wanted to create a long laminar plasma jet (different kind of jet, but anyway) 13:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAE7PKv4vgY 13:36 -!- Demiurge1000 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Demiurge1000] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:36 < Revent> Gigs-: There's a group of peeps down in New Zealand that are big into 'homemade jet engines'....blueprints and such... 13:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent sure 13:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> imagine the real thing plowing through tourists 13:36 -!- Jamesofur|away is now known as Jamesofur 13:37 < Revent> Gigs-: http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/ <- LOL 13:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I can see the potential of having a 4x4 power by that 13:38 < Gigs-> eh not big enough rockets 13:38 < Revent> "The more observant of you may notice the air hose joining the compressor to the combustor was replaced with a PVC pipe. This was a very, very bad idea as PVC gets soft when it gets hot and it tends to part company with the engine at the most inopportune moments! " 13:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> each shuttle launch could have been used to cool beer 13:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oportunity lost :( 13:38 < Revent> *important safety tip* 13:38 < Gigs-> and explodes when it gets cold 13:39 < Gigs-> pvc isn't good for much outside room temperature 13:39 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Quit: Never look where you come from , but where you're going.] 13:41 < BlastHardcheese> I've always been an advocate of beer-powered spacecraft 13:41 < Revent> Gigs-: Honestly, if I had the 'skill', I'd rather do something like this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY7W3EMfrgc 13:41 < Revent> Now *THAT'S* a model rocket.... :) 13:41 < Revent> Essentially a homemade Nike ABM. 13:42 < TheDruId> They will eventually be powered by rainbows and barking puppies. 13:43 < Revent> I wonder how much it cost to get an FAA clearance to launch something like that. 13:44 < Gigs-> nothing 13:44 < Gigs-> just need to get a notam issued 13:45 < Gigs-> the atf have been dicks about some rocket fuels though 13:45 < Gigs-> so you'd probably need a high explosives manufacturing license, which sounds harder to get than it is 13:45 < Gigs-> they are "shall issue" assuming you aren't a felon 13:45 -!- meanoldman [ThrashIRC@horn-laptop.creighton.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:46 -!- meanoldman [ThrashIRC@horn-laptop.creighton.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 13:46 < Revent> *hmms* http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2008-12-04/pdf/E8-28703.pdf 13:46 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:46 < Revent> The actual 'rule' 13:47 < Revent> *skims* Ye, you need a TFR......I though there were filing fees for that (shrugs) 13:48 -!- SoapX is now known as Swob 13:49 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49 < Gigs-> I don't think you are reading that right 13:49 < Revent> Gigs-: 'technically' you don't need high explosives at all.....Asphalt and LOX is a damn good rocket fuel. 13:49 < Gigs-> a tfr is a temporary flight restriction 13:49 < Gigs-> revent none of the rocket fuels are high explosives, the atf is just stupid 13:50 < Revent> Gigs-: Well, it's asummary of a proposed rule change, so yeah kinda 'vague' 13:50 < Gigs-> it lists the notice requirements, which is what I mentioned 13:50 < Gigs-> you need to get a notam issued 13:51 < Revent> *isn't a pilot* I knew there were notice requireents, assumed the FAA charged a fee... 13:51 < Revent> FWIW, tho, hydrazine is pretty bad. 13:52 -!- YuviPanda is now known as zz_YuviPanda 13:52 < Gigs-> ammonium nitrate and perchrloate are what is normally used 13:52 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 13:53 < Revent> But yeah, not technically 'high explosive'....you actualy don't /want/ and explosive rocket fuel. 13:53 < Revent> It'll 'blow out' the fire 13:53 < TheDruId> I can boil coffee down to a substance that the ATF comes close to wanting control of; it's all relative. 13:53 < Gigs-> like I said, it's ATF logic 13:54 < Gigs-> it keeps changing as well 13:54 < Gigs-> first AN/AP fuel was HE, then it wasn't, then it was, etc 13:54 < TheDruId> Well, they got their diplomas from Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms University, ATFU. 13:55 < Revent> *hehs* TBH (wp:beans, but wth) the 'easiest' way to make a biohazard area is just to culture ergot. 13:55 < Gigs-> the thing is, and most people don't know this, on a federal level, it's legal to make high explosives anyway 13:55 < Revent> You'll probably kill yourself tho. 13:55 < Gigs-> if.... you don't trasport them, store them, sell them, or "perform them" commercially 13:55 < Gigs-> which is how tannerite is legal 13:56 < Gigs-> but that is a major inconvienence for the high power rocketeer 13:56 < Gigs-> because that means they have to make their motors on-site if they aren't a licensee 13:56 < Gigs-> can't pack them at home and drive them out to the launch site 13:57 < Revent> You might get away with it if you poured them in sections and assembled onsite, I'd think....keep the pieces small. 13:57 -!- lbenedix [~lbenedix@g231250104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:57 < Gigs-> you can't transport the mixed composition if it's a HE 13:57 < Revent> (don't know the exact rules, obviously) 13:58 < Gigs-> you could have all the rocket stuff put together, just not the composition itself 13:58 -!- tttb [~tom@host-92-19-123-37.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:58 < Gigs-> anyway, it looks like the ATF backed down after a court case 13:58 < Revent> I know that actually 'pouring' a solid fuel is pretty difficult....not getting bubbles and such. 13:58 < Gigs-> it's hard not to get voids and cracks in powder fuel as well 13:59 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59 < Gigs-> packing a rocket motor is time consuming 13:59 -!- Carly is now known as Carly|away 13:59 < TheDruId> Could take the rest of your life. 13:59 < Brad|duerme> ._. 13:59 < Carly|away> Haha 13:59 < Gigs-> TheDruId: I use a special tamper made out of flint and steel filings in my fuel 14:00 < Gigs-> more fun that way 14:00 < Revent> *hehs* iron burns nice if you get it hot enough. 14:00 < Gigs-> yeah metals are heavy but they add a pretty tail and a little impulse 14:00 -!- Scott_Ma1tin is now known as Scott_Martin 14:00 -!- Scott_Martin [hex@u.nix.is] has quit [Changing host] 14:00 -!- Scott_Martin [hex@wikipedia/Hex] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:00 < Qcoder00> Hi does anyone know of free voice recognition systems for Windows XP? 14:00 -!- tttb [~tom@host-92-19-123-37.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:01 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:01 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:01 < TheDruId> My grandfather used black powder, and had some of it embedded in his hand from an explosion as proof. Was amateurly competetive nationally for the time. 14:01 < Revent> *cringes* 14:01 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:01 < Gigs-> you can't explode black powder from hammering it 14:02 < Revent> Qcoder00: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306901 14:02 -!- TOS [TOS@wikipedia/TheOriginalSoni] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:02 < Gigs-> in reality though I made a hammer with a lead head and I use wood tampers 14:02 < TOS> Any admins here? 14:02 -!- Writ_Keeper [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Writ-Keeper] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:02 < Revent> Qcoder00: It's built in *not great tho* 14:03 < Qcoder00> IThe KB says it's installed with Office 14:03 -!- elkng [~elkng@unaffiliated/elkng] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:03 < TheDruId> ...and should be able to take down your system in no time. 14:03 -!- SudoGhost [~SudoGhost@wikipedia/SudoGhost] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:03 < Revent> Qcoder00: It's not written clearly...it's part of windows, they're talking about installing the office module that makes it work there. 14:04 -!- Lnmow [~Miranda@unaffiliated/lnmow] has quit [Quit: Soupir] 14:04 < Qcoder00> Not according to the instructions given 14:04 < Swob> plenty of admins are here as usual 14:05 < Revent> *at least, it came with my old XP back when I used it* Might have been an OEM thing, I guess. 14:05 -!- elkng [~elkng@unaffiliated/elkng] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:05 < Swob> There's almost never a time with no admins on in here. Its just that a lot of them are wary of responding to requests to do something without any knowledge of what it is 14:06 < TheDruId> ^^++ 14:07 -!- tttb [~tom@host-92-19-123-37.as13285.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07 < Revent> Qcoder00: look at http://tinyurl.com/pcjxrol 14:08 -!- Brad|duerme is now known as Bradford 14:09 < TheDruId> "What do you need?" *poof* "What do you need?" *poof* "What do you need?" *poof* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney%27s_Aladdin_characters#Genie 14:09 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:09 < Qcoder00> Revent: thanks 14:09 < Revent> The Genie is one of the great cartoon characters of all time IMO. 14:10 < Revent> Qcoder00: No prob....you could look on sunsite too... 14:10 < Qcoder00> OK 14:10 < Qcoder00> I'll make a request on Wikisource... 14:10 < Qcoder00> ;) 14:10 < TheDruId> Same as Wikipedia admins: Phenomenal cosmic power, itty-bitty living space. 14:10 < Qcoder00> See if they recomend anything 14:10 < Revent> Qcoder00: ibiblio.org is the part of sunsite I mean. 14:11 < Qcoder00> When I read stuff for computer, I end up sounding like an answerphone anyway.;) 14:12 -!- Bradford is now known as Abdelkader 14:13 < Swob> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Mola_mola_ocean_sunfish_Monterey_Bay_Aquarium_2.jpg <-- wow, what an ugly fish 14:13 < Abdelkader> Carly|away: fea 14:13 < Swob> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sunfish2.jpg 14:14 < TheDruId> Swob, Speciesist. 14:14 < Revent> Swob: That's a particularly wrinkly one... 14:14 < Carly|away> Abdelkader feo 14:16 < Revent> *can't remember the name* There's a Indian Ocean 'flatfish' that has a wrinkly shape on their stomach that looks like a really ugly person....they're kinda creepy. 14:16 -!- Fluffernutter [Fluffernut@wikipedia/Fluffernutter] has quit [Quit: hometime] 14:17 < Abdelkader> Carly|away: porque eres tan fea 14:18 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:18 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18 < Carly|away> Abdelkader porque eres tan monstruo? 14:18 < Carly|away> Abdelkader t pondre en ignore 14:18 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:18 < Revent> This is interesting... http://io9.com/10-unusual-genetic-mutations-in-humans-470843733 14:19 < Revent> #4 is particularly bad. 14:19 < Swob> progeria is sad 14:19 -!- Gnumarcoo [~marco@wikipedia/Gnumarcoo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:19 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:19 -!- Gnumarcoo [~marco@wikipedia/Gnumarcoo] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:20 < Revent> *hmms* Abe Lincoln was a mutant.... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22504423 14:21 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:21 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Client Quit] 14:22 < Swob> the guy seen in the pic in #4 got cured, i remember 14:22 < Swob> hypertrichosis might not be that bad 14:22 < Swob> after all basically 99% of mammals have hypertrichosis and they do fine 14:22 < Revent> Swob: I think it's the 'associated' effect more than the need to shave a lot... 14:23 -!- ShreCk [Troll@78.210.16.162] has quit [Quit: Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus] 14:23 < Abdelkader> Carly|away: Nou |: 14:24 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:25 < Revent> Swob: His 'cure' was just corrective surgery...he still has the disorder, they'll grow back 14:25 < Swob> Lincoln might still have had Marfan Syndrome 14:25 < Swob> true 14:25 < Revent> Swob: Ye...seems fairly certain there was some genetic disorder tho... 14:26 -!- YE is now known as YE|AFK 14:26 < Revent> This http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1611224/ makes more sense now lol. 14:26 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:26 < mareklug> Swob reporting full success: I have installed, in turn, the incoming SCSI drives and put Mac OS 7.5.3 on each, and booted the computer with each, and was able to do full networking (web, ssh) on the WLAN with each, and Apple talk on the LAN with file sharing. woo hoo. 14:28 < Swob> cool 14:28 < Swob> can you edit wikipedia from it? 14:30 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:30 < Swob> i think nature wants humans to go back to being hairy apes 14:31 < Swob> there's at least 7 different mutations that cause hypertrichosis, yet there's hardly any mutations for chimps that make them look like us 14:31 -!- mabdul [~mabdul@wikipedia/mabdul] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:32 < Swob> its like nature saying "pleeeeease grow whole-body fur again, here's 7 different ways you can do it" 14:33 -!- ScottSteiner [ScottStein@wikipedia/ScottSteiner] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:33 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33 -!- harej [~quassel@ip-64-134-101-84.public.wayport.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:33 -!- harej [~quassel@ip-64-134-101-84.public.wayport.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:33 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:33 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:34 < TheDruId> It'll come in handy once we're in space. 14:35 < Swob> or if we end up destroying half of the sun like I was saying earlier 14:36 < mareklug> iCab 2.99 is sort of feeble with JavaScript, and it's best to turn it off, but I think I can. I certainly can google :) And http://asgp.org actually loads reasonably fast on these machines. Imagine that. 14:37 < Swob> hah i remember iCab 14:38 < mareklug> Swob iCab is still being developed as shareware -- you can get fairly uptodate versions for modern mac systems as well as for everything on down. 14:38 -!- TB|Away [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has quit [Quit: So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Operator from a pure heart.] 14:40 < mareklug> Pharos only 2 year anniversary at Wikipedia?????? 14:40 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:42 < harej> Pharos has been editing for far more than two years 14:42 < harej> I've *known him* for longer than that! 14:42 < mareklug> harej his Linked-in blurb said today 2 year anniversary at Wikipedia. 14:43 -!- Sky2042 [~Sky2042@wikipedia/Izno] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:43 -!- G_Princess [~hexersGFL@static-98-140-131-222.dsl.cavtel.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:44 -!- G_Princess [~hexersGFL@static-98-140-131-222.dsl.cavtel.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 14:44 < Revent> FWIW, I actually find it kinda neat how much going through and 'assessing' these bios seems to get them paid attention to... :) 14:44 < Revent> A suprisingly high number seem to get edits within the next day or so. 14:45 < TOS> Who is Pharos? 14:45 < mareklug> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharos 14:45 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:45 < TheDruId> Save Pharos. 14:45 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has quit [Quit: I'm the greatest pirate-hunter in the world! AUYYEAHHH] 14:45 < mareklug> TOS he is a known ancient lighthouse. Nothing for you to concern yourself with. 14:46 < TOS> So I take it he's not a female from Kolkata? 14:46 -!- Victorium [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:46 -!- Victorium [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has quit [Changing host] 14:46 -!- Victorium [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:46 < mareklug> no, and he is rather hairy. so you should best make no designs on Pharos. 14:46 < TOS> "I, Pharos, am a Wikipedian who has been active since September 2004." 14:48 < harej> The be-all and end-all of the universe. Also the President of Wikimedia New York Citt 14:48 < harej> City 14:48 < TheDruId> His RfA was *awesome*. 14:49 * TOS checks 14:49 < Revent> WP:SNOW 14:50 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:50 < Revent> (in the positive sense) 14:50 < TheDruId> The library is about to close; please print or save your work /now/. Oh, well. Later, all... 14:50 < mareklug> harej it must be this presidency that is 2 years old, but they got it as Wikipedia 14:50 < harej> I think Wikimedia NYC is more than 2 years old 14:50 < TOS> SlimVirgin seems to be the only recognizable name 14:51 < mareklug> well, then obviousy Pharos fucked up something in his profile, for this anniversary thing was automatically generated and spread out to his connections. 14:51 -!- TheDruId [4aeff6fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.239.246.250] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:52 < Revent> Ye, his RfA was 05 if I looked at the right one. 14:53 -!- Gnumarcoo [~marco@wikipedia/Gnumarcoo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:56 < mareklug> "The RasterOps ColorBoard 264 is unaccelerated and supports a resolution of 640 x 480 in up to 24-bit color." 14:57 < mareklug> oh well, no point swapping out my venerable trinitron crt for some cheapass larger flatscreen... 14:58 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:59 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:59 -!- Keyzer [~Paul@37.228.214.58] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:00 -!- Keyzer [~Paul@37.228.214.58] has left #wikipedia-en [] 15:02 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:02 -!- TOS [TOS@wikipedia/TheOriginalSoni] has quit [] 15:05 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@pool-173-67-179-136.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:05 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@pool-173-67-179-136.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:05 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:06 -!- Mezelf14 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Mezelf14] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 15:08 -!- salimfadhley [~salimfadh@host109-148-80-187.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:08 -!- salimfadhley [~salimfadh@host109-148-80-187.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:08 -!- salimfadhley [~salimfadh@wikipedia/salimfadhley] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:11 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@c-69-143-26-181.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:11 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@c-69-143-26-181.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:11 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@unaffiliated/greenrosetta] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:13 -!- Jnorton7558 [whocares@cpe-66-66-239-72.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:13 -!- Jnorton7558 [whocares@cpe-66-66-239-72.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:13 -!- Venusaur [~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:15 -!- mindspillage [~kat@216.38.130.165] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:15 -!- mindspillage [~kat@216.38.130.165] has quit [Changing host] 15:15 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:16 < David_Stevenson> !admin block http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fags4lyf plz 15:16 < legoktm> hi 15:16 < legoktm> David_Stevenson: done 15:16 < David_Stevenson> thanks 15:17 < Revent> Nice classy edit there... 15:17 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:18 < Pharos> wait, what? 15:18 < Pharos> why am i a topic? 15:18 < harej> you are legendary 15:19 < mareklug> Swob I feel like I'm back in the old country. I just negotiated a 1GB stick of Hynix DRAM 400 3200 memory for 10 bucks, after making offers at 8 and then 9. The seller wanted 12. It will increase my beautiful XP desktop to 2GB (it now runs 1.5, where 1 stick is just like this one; it was really meant for G5 iMac) 15:19 -!- Revent [ad15dd3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-hgxysdrwcwvjlkxq] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:20 -!- Revent [ad15dd3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-ebjwxctooihqdqrn] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:21 < mareklug> Pharos Linked-in says you are celebrating your two-year aniversary at Wikipedia today. :/ 15:21 < Swob> must be two years since he added Wikipedia to LinkedIn or something 15:21 < mareklug> no, I am sure it is worse than that. He probably put in the wrong year in his credentials 15:22 < legoktm> zz_YuviPanda: sent you a pull request :D 15:22 -!- salimfadhley [~salimfadh@wikipedia/salimfadhley] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:23 < Pharos> i guess it's the 2nd anniversary of being an ambassador or something 15:24 < mareklug> yeah, but you told them Wikipedia, and now they spammed all 500 of your most distant friends. 15:24 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:25 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:26 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:26 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:26 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 15:28 -!- mschfr [~mschm@p4FCB8309.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 15:30 -!- mabdul [~mabdul@wikipedia/mabdul] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:31 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:31 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:32 -!- Dragonfly6-7 [~test@bas1-montreal48-1096716442.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:32 < Dragonfly6-7> Hi 15:34 -!- FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|away 15:37 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:37 < Bsadowski1> http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/pocket-dialing-911-leads-fla-murder-charge-19237104 15:37 < Bsadowski1> lol 15:40 -!- JKL|lejos is now known as JKL1234- 15:41 < Revent> Yup, definitely a dumbass. 15:47 < Swob> he must have had one of those phones that has a button just for 911 15:47 < Swob> its pretty hard to butt-dial those three exact digits any other way 15:51 -!- delirious [~jessica@S010678cd8ee1cd30.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:51 -!- Demiurge1000 is now known as D1000|Away 15:51 < jorm> some phones have a "distress" mode. 15:52 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has quit [Quit: gaming time!] 15:53 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53 < Pharos> like, the phone dials 911 if it's about to break? 15:53 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh I love this logic 15:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Holding a meat cleaver in his bloody hand, the suspected killer of a British soldier told passers-by he carried out the attack "because Muslims are dying daily." 15:54 < Pharos> logic always leads you right! 15:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> makes complete sense 15:54 * ToAruShiroiNeko proposes daily sacrifices 15:55 < mareklug> and some phones are notorious for dialing 911 right out of your pocket, even when seemingly locked. This is a major kwetch on Amazon. 15:55 -!- zz_nas is now known as nas 15:55 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug there are people who dial 911 for stupid reasons too 15:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> intentinally 15:55 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:55 < Pharos> I'm pretty sure Muslims would be dying daily even if we had world peace 15:56 < mareklug> yes, but this is about annoyed ppl who didn't. 15:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there is reverse butt dial too 15:56 < Swob> there is? 15:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure 15:56 < Pharos> that should be banned 15:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> inmate shoved a cell phone into their recrum and recieved a call during an inspection 15:56 < Swob> oh 15:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if only he set to vibrate 15:57 < shimgray> Swob - it's not that's surprising. while there's only a one in 1000 chance of any three digits in sequence being 911, most phones will ignore any other three-digit sequence 15:57 < David_Stevenson> I'd set it to silent, vibrate causes problems too 15:57 < Pharos> the only religion I can think of that's not dying daily would be Shakers 15:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> David_Stevenson its in prison :p 15:58 < shimgray> 911 (or equivalent) bypasses a lot of the default locks 15:58 < Swob> true 15:58 < Pharos> I guess Samaritan probably don't die daily either 15:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> emergency dial should be 555 15:58 < Swob> i guess thats one disavantage of smartphones 15:58 < mareklug> shimgray the annoying phones have a 911 button or some other such way of making the 911 -- it is not about dialing. 15:58 < Swob> you have to press 4 buttons to even get to the actual phone keypad 15:58 -!- delirious [~jessica@S010678cd8ee1cd30.cg.shawcable.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 15:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Swob more if you have bigger fingers 15:59 < foks> untrue 15:59 < Pharos> in NYC, our givt runs on "311" 15:59 < foks> iPhone has an "emergency call" button 15:59 < Swob> Samsung has a series of phones aimed primarily at the elderly that have a distinct 911 button that cannot be changed, plus another customizable button for "emergency" 15:59 < Carly|away> Lol 15:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Swob my emergency button would call dominos pizza 15:59 < Carly|away> Samsung Galaxy s4 *_* 15:59 < mareklug> apparently it is the Samsungs that are annoying …the elderly …with those unwanted 911 dialouts 15:59 * Carly|away diea for one 16:00 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@g225183068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:00 * ToAruShiroiNeko suggests Carly|away to strol down in UK with a UK mil uniform 16:00 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 16:00 < Carly|away> O.o 16:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Pharos I dont think its halal to kill with a car 16:01 < Carly|away> No, 16:01 -!- nas is now known as zz_nas 16:02 < Revent> No unless you behead them with it lol. 16:02 < Pharos> I'm not sure 16:02 < Pharos> it wouldn't be kosher 16:02 * Carly|away drinks Lipton Yellow Label 16:02 < Carly|away> Xd 16:02 < Pharos> but if it was by accident, maybe there could be an exception 16:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent muslim tradition requires the blood to be drained and animal to be killed with a slit in their throats 16:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not implying UK soldiers are animals 16:03 < Pharos> kosher is the same 16:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but someone trying to give a religious message should at least follow the religion :p 16:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so in the course of 1 month we had boston bombers carried out by white muslims 16:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and now this attack by a black muslim 16:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> how are we supposed to steriotype over skin color now :( 16:04 < Pharos> we can try 16:04 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@ip72-199-26-55.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:04 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@ip72-199-26-55.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:04 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> only asians are safe... for now 16:05 < BlastHardcheese> the bombers weren't "real" white people though, they're swarthy eastern europeans 16:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BlastHardcheese they were caucassion 16:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they were litteraly from caucassia! 16:05 < Pharos> fun fact: russians don't like "caucasians" 16:05 < BlastHardcheese> exactly, white people aren't from asia! 16:05 < Revent> ToAruShiroiNeko: Yeah, that's what I meant by 'beheading' them with the car...it's be kinda hard to only get the throat. :P 16:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Revent easy just customise 16:06 < Revent> *lol* 16:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> "pimp my ride" for beheading 16:06 < Pharos> they've basically applied the old russian antisemitism to these mercabtile caucasians 16:06 < Pharos> *mercantile 16:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since Obama is a secret muslim, and possiby queen of england and pope too 16:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> we ought to hide under our desks 16:08 * Pharos is already hiding 16:08 * Carly|away eats toast 16:08 -!- Carly|away is now known as Carly 16:10 * ToAruShiroiNeko tosses a tear gas under Pharos's desk 16:10 * ToAruShiroiNeko tosses a gas mask under Pharos's desk 16:10 < Pharos> thank you! 16:10 * ToAruShiroiNeko tosses a bad comic under Pharos's desk 16:11 < Pharos> is it Superman Nuber 1? 16:11 -!- russavia [~russavia@CPE-121-221-88-83.lns7.wel.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:11 -!- russavia [~russavia@CPE-121-221-88-83.lns7.wel.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 16:11 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:11 * Pharos cashes out 16:14 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@wikimedia/John-F-Lewis] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:15 -!- MissGayle is now known as zz_MissGayle 16:15 < mareklug> Pharos I like "mercabtile". We must invent a meaning for it. 16:15 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:16 < mareklug> Mercab appears to be a family name… so... 16:16 < Swob> coem on youtube stop showing me beer commercials! 16:16 < Swob> you know I dont drink 16:16 -!- zz_MissGayle is now known as MissGayle 16:16 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16 < mareklug> Swob not even lemonade? 16:16 < mareklug> not even cider? 16:17 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:17 < Swob> the first drop of alcohol kills a man's soul 16:17 < mareklug> Swob yes, it is a known problem. 16:17 < mareklug> The workaround is to get past it. It gets much better. 16:18 < mareklug> in some cultures that is why you are to pour the first drops on the ground 16:18 < mareklug> in an offering 16:18 < mareklug> but really it means to protect your soul. 16:18 < russavia> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_proud_city_(126036222).jpg who's from winnipeg? 16:19 < russavia> or Regina 16:19 < mareklug> will you settle for Saskatoon? 16:19 < Pharos> it's Regina 16:20 * russavia stears clear of regina in future and all who hail from 16:20 < Pharos> it should be "Canada's Queen City of Chlamydia" 16:20 < Pharos> etymologically speaking 16:20 < mareklug> russavia just click on "pozycja fotografa" for crying out loud 16:20 < mareklug> Pharos that is unfair to Queen Cities everywhere, including Cincinnati. 16:21 < mareklug> it is kings who spread chlam 16:21 < Pharos> nothing is unfair to Cincinatti! 16:21 < mareklug> pharos everything happens in Cincinnati 10 years later, said Mark Twain. 16:22 < mareklug> Cincinnati, Pharrrrrrros. Cincinnati. one t. After Cincinnatus. 16:22 < mareklug> the dictator benevolent 16:22 < Swob> the curly haired guy 16:22 < mareklug> they are all curly in Italy 16:22 < mareklug> the land that waist forgot 16:22 < mareklug> in mammas 16:24 < Carly> Ay no 16:25 < Swob> marek did you click the link i posted earlier? 16:25 < Swob> a music video with a girl singing 16:25 < mareklug> no, i was distracted. relink pls 16:26 < Swob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyqemIbjcfg 16:26 < Swob> I heard it at work a few days ago 16:27 < mareklug> you can hear Florence and the Dishwasher influence here... 16:28 < Swob> never heard of them 16:28 < Swob> thats a real band? 16:29 < mareklug> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence%20and%20the%20Machine if you like this Chvrches, you will gobble up Flo 16:29 < Swob> i just like the girl with the high pichted voice 16:31 * russavia slaps swob 16:31 < Swob> whaaat 16:32 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chvrches she is a looker, too. Funny foks never let on about them, what with them being from Glasgow and famous. 16:32 < russavia> even dog days are over -- classic song -- amazing how many people never heard of 16:32 < foks> mareklug, I figured you already knew about them 16:32 < mareklug> no, i will promptly now steal some of their music 16:32 -!- AndyBotwin [~RandyNewm@unaffiliated/andybotwin] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:32 < Swob> I'd never heard of Chvrches before a few days ago and never heard of Florence and the machine before a few minutes ago 16:33 < mareklug> Swob you have massive girlie band deficits to make up on the UK scene alone 16:33 < Revent> FatM is awesome.....very good tunage. 16:33 < russavia> swob -- here -- got a video for you to watch to get you into Flo 16:33 < russavia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waIuhfoTMv8 16:34 < russavia> my ex was a pole dancer -- nowhere near as good as this -- but good enough ;) 16:34 -!- AndyBotwin [~RandyNewm@unaffiliated/andybotwin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35 < mareklug> but soap will diss Flo, as she does not have a high pitched voice. 16:35 < russavia> fuck you swob fuck you very much 16:35 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36 < russavia> mareklug -- this would be more swob's liking -- http://youtu.be/ZSFVl-w6n7U?t=1m14s 16:36 -!- Headbomb [~chatzilla@Wikipedia/Headbomb] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:36 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:37 < Bsadowski1> "Ask GLaDOS anything! I will be on reddit IAmA today at 8p EST answering YOUR questions. For science." 16:37 < Bsadowski1> NICE 16:39 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:39 < mareklug> oh well. it's only 3.99 on iTunes and I have credit there. I will support Scotland in her time of dire. 16:40 -!- greenrosetta [~greenrose@unaffiliated/greenrosetta] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:41 -!- MrFish2 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:41 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:42 < MrFish2> hexchat crashed when I tried to enter something 16:42 < MrFish2> lame 16:42 < MrFish2> :\ 16:42 -!- Bsadowski1 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:42 < russavia> would reigning U.S. Pole Dancing Champion be notable? 16:42 -!- MrFish2 is now known as Bsadowski1 16:42 < russavia> might need to do article :) 16:48 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:48 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:48 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has quit [Changing host] 16:48 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:49 < Swob> wb Bsadowski 16:50 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:50 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 16:50 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:51 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Heligoland] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:51 -!- JohannesC [~Johannes@84-52-204.159.3p.ntebredband.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:52 < Swob> hi Σ 16:52 < SigmaWP> hi Swob 16:52 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:53 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:54 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:54 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has quit [Changing host] 16:54 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:55 -!- bazinga [~chatzilla@S0106001ee560ade9.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:55 -!- bazinga [~chatzilla@S0106001ee560ade9.ss.shawcable.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:55 -!- bazinga [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:58 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:59 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@24.114.252.239] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:59 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@24.114.252.239] has quit [Changing host] 16:59 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:01 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:03 -!- Hazard-SJ [~Hazard-SJ@wikimedia/Hazard-SJ] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:05 -!- Venusaur [~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:05 -!- Abdelkader is now known as Bradford 17:06 -!- zz_nas is now known as nas 17:09 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:15 -!- TOS [TOS@117.194.81.91] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:16 < Carly> Hey TOS ;) 17:17 -!- contempt [contempt@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:19 -!- contempt [contempt@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:28 < Fyre> Hi 17:29 < Carly> Hey Fyre :) 17:29 < Swob> hey i discovered something 17:29 -!- APexilI [~you@63-228-70-9.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:29 < Swob> you know that "this video is not available on mobile" thing you sometimes see on YouTube on a cellphone> 17:29 < Swob> all it does is check if youre using the mobile version of the site 17:29 < Swob> it has nothing to do with whether youre on a cellphone or not 17:30 < Swob> so you can just go to the site in a browser and itll work 17:31 -!- MrFish2 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:31 < TOS> Carly Hey! 17:31 < Fyre> Hey Carly 17:31 < CrackyWacky> hola, Carly :3 17:31 < Carly> :D 17:31 -!- Bsadowski1 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:32 < CrackyWacky> hi Swob 17:32 < Fyre> hey Swob 17:32 -!- MrFish2 is now known as Bsadowski1 17:32 < CrackyWacky> hey Bsadowski1 17:32 < Fyre> sup Bsadowski1 17:32 < Fyre> hey CrackyWacky <3 17:32 < CrackyWacky> my sistah, Fyre <3 17:32 * CrackyWacky e-penetrates Fyre 17:32 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 17:32 < Carly> Whi is Xraxkywaki 17:32 < Carly> Crackywacky ???? 17:32 < Carly> Who are yiu 17:32 < Fyre> my gay drag-queen lover <3 17:33 < CrackyWacky> oh you go gurl 17:33 < CrackyWacky> gurrrrrl 17:33 < Fyre> lol 17:34 < CrackyWacky> ya 17:34 < Fyre> yaytata 17:34 < Fyre> <3 17:34 < CrackyWacky> <3 you as well, Fyre 17:34 < Carly> Who are you CrackyWacky? Do I know you¿ 17:34 < CrackyWacky> just wanted to say hello, gurl 17:34 < Fyre> yeah 17:35 < Fyre> don't get your panties in a bunch, gurl 17:35 * CrackyWacky nods. 17:35 * Carly runs away 17:40 -!- Carly is now known as Carly|game 17:40 < Bradford> ._. 17:41 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:41 < Carly|game> U.u 17:41 < Bradford> .-. 17:41 < Carly|game> Bradford what te pica you? 17:41 < Carly|game> Xddds 17:41 < Bradford> xd 17:41 -!- Bradford is now known as Pote 17:41 -!- Detox_ [uid11716@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hxnqappbjutzkyem] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:42 -!- sdamashek is now known as sdamashek|away 17:42 < Sky2042> this channel makes me shake my head... 17:42 < Carly|game> We are going to cook and use the pote to.give food to el perro 17:42 < Carly|game> Pote tkm 17:42 < Carly|game> Good! 17:43 < Pote> ah 17:43 < Carly|game> Eh 17:45 -!- Carly|game [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47 -!- Adrianzo [~hermilo@200.84.224.12] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:48 -!- Carly [~androirc@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:48 < Pote> Carly: :d 17:48 < Carly> :p 17:49 < Pote> e_e 17:49 < Pote> Carly: llego adriana mendoza XD 17:50 < Carly> Where? 17:50 < Adrianzo> Carly: 17:50 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 17:50 < Carly> Adrianzo: 17:50 -!- GorillaWarfare is now known as GW|Away 17:50 < Pote> Pote: 17:50 < Pote> xD 17:51 < Pote> Carly: Adrianzo is adriana mendoza :-) 17:52 -!- TOS [TOS@117.194.81.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:52 -!- Pote is now known as Bradford 17:53 -!- TOS [TOS@117.194.82.185] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:55 < Swob> anyone know of any good android mp4 players 17:55 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:55 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:55 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:56 < russavia> http://i.imgur.com/k9OMRpc.png for once UK is spot on!! 17:56 -!- kingturtle [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingturtle] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:57 < russavia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo this is hilarious 17:57 < Carly> -_= 17:58 -!- Missingno255 [~Missingno@unaffiliated/missingno255] has left #wikipedia-en ["BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!"] 17:58 < Koi> wat 17:58 < Koi> y is troll try glitch IRCmon 17:58 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59 < kingturtle> russ, it's zizek. what is hilarious about it 17:59 -!- Adrianzo [~hermilo@200.84.224.12] has left #wikipedia-en [] 17:59 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 18:00 < russavia> it's funny because its true 18:00 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:01 < kingturtle> women get raped and like it? um... 18:01 < kingturtle> anyone interested in working on a current event article? 18:01 < russavia> nup 18:01 < russavia> it belongs on wikinews not wp 18:02 < kingturtle> some belong only in wikinews. others do not. 18:02 < Carly> O.o 18:02 < russavia> the vast majority do, a minority dont 18:02 < Revent> kingturtle: Gawd, what was that texas politician's name, that made such an ass of himself with the rep comments? 18:02 < Revent> *rape 18:03 < kingturtle> russ. idon't disagree 18:03 < Carly> Me 18:03 < kingturtle> revent. ohyeah. i forget 18:03 < Carly> Kingturtle is wikinews? :D 18:03 < Revent> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Williams#1990_Texas_gubernatorial_race <- 4th para. 18:03 < Revent> Jackass. 18:03 < kingturtle> carly, i usually side with current events being wikinews only. but there are rare exceptions. 18:04 < Bradford> ._. 18:05 < Carly> I love Wikinews 18:05 < Bradford> Carly: deja a ese moe y se my girlfriend 18:05 < Carly> I.edit.more wikinews.than wikipedia 18:05 < Carly> Edited* 18:05 < Bradford> :- 18:06 < Peter-C> Jamesofur - poke 18:06 -!- nas is now known as Guest26223 18:06 < Carly> Bradford what? i dont have novio 18:06 -!- Guest26223 is now known as nas 18:06 < Bradford> Carly: deja a moe se mi novia :D 18:07 < Carly> Bradford that is not my novio y no te amo 18:07 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 18:07 -!- Victorium [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:07 < Bradford> Carly: ok fea 18:08 < Bradford> despues no venga a llorarme 18:08 < Carly> Feo.tu 18:08 < Carly> Bradford just.stop and leave me alone 18:09 -!- ChrisGualtieri [~IceChat77@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:09 < Bradford> ok stop 18:09 < Bradford> leave me alone 18:09 < Carly> BYE I WILL.MISS YOU PLEASE GET OUT BACK SOON BRADFORD 18:09 < Carly> Thanks :) 18:09 < Koi> QUICK 18:09 < Koi> WHAT'S THE LINK TO THE NEW CREATE ACCOUNT? 18:09 < Bradford> o.o 18:09 < kingturtle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Loyau-Kennett 18:09 < ChrisGualtieri> Evening all 18:10 < Bradford> Carly: km 18:10 < Bradford> Carly: ok ahora tengo un boyfriend xd 18:11 < Bradford> yes? 18:12 < Carly> Ok you can have all boyfriends like you like Bradford 18:12 < Bradford> okay 18:14 < Carly> I dont have boyfriends that are childrens like you,if I do I will be accused by rapist 18:14 < Carly> Bradford ;) vaya con.Dios 18:14 < Bradford> Carly: no me hables mas me pusiste triste :'( 18:14 < Carly> Bradford what? Why sad -_- 18:15 < Carly> O sea helllo 18:15 < Bradford> :( 18:15 < Bradford> he is bad 18:15 < Carly> Who? 18:15 < Bradford> yes 18:15 < Bradford> unlike 18:15 < Carly> No 18:16 < Carly> Yes. 18:16 < Bradford> dislake 18:16 < Bradford> No 18:16 < Carly> Yes I dislike 18:16 < Bradford> no 18:16 < CrackyWacky> O RLY 18:16 < Fyre> YA RLY 18:16 < Bradford> ._. 18:16 < CrackyWacky> O RLY 18:16 < Fyre> YA RLY 18:16 < Swob> yeah i think there are basically no good Android mp4 players 18:16 < CrackyWacky> NO WAI! 18:16 < Fyre> buttsecks. 18:16 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 18:16 < Bradford> wtf 18:16 -!- TOS3 [TOS@117.194.82.185] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:16 < Carly> .-. 18:17 < Carly> Ah no WTF 18:17 < Bradford> O RLY 18:17 < Fyre> YA RLY 18:17 < Bradford> O RLY 18:17 < Bradford> ._. 18:17 < Carly> -/- 18:17 < Carly> Xdddd 18:17 < Bradford> \o/ 18:18 < Carly> Bradford *( ' ) 18:18 < Carly> ( ! ) 18:18 -!- TOS [TOS@117.194.82.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:18 < Bradford> ._. 18:18 < Bradford> stop 18:19 < Swob> lol 18:19 < Bradford> =_= 18:19 < Carly> And leave me alone then 18:19 < Swob> "this reeever is the official limit between Balkan and Mitteleuropa" 18:19 < Carly> If you dont want to.die Bradford 18:19 < Carly> :| 18:19 < Bradford> ahhh 18:19 < Bradford> que dises 18:20 * Carly laughs 18:23 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has quit [Quit: Connection savagely beaten to death by peer] 18:23 < Carly> Bradford ayudame xon los mails 18:23 < Bradford> xd 18:23 < Carly> Pleases pleases 18:24 < Carly> Xd 18:24 < Carly> Ya chongo move on 18:24 < Carly> Bradford ;) 18:24 -!- Kinkreet [~Kinkreet@wikipedia/Kinkreet] has left #wikipedia-en [] 18:25 < Bradford> e_e 18:25 < Bradford> chonga.com 18:25 < Peter-C> Dear god 18:25 < Peter-C> It took me 15 minutes to find an email 18:26 * Peter-C flips over google 18:26 < Carly> Haha no!! See www.Idontwant.com bradford 18:26 < Carly> Xd 18:26 < Carly> Peter-C www.nosowhat?.com 18:26 < Carly> Xd 18:26 -!- Jasper_Deng_conn [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:27 < Peter-C> ? 18:27 < Peter-C> O-o 18:27 < Bradford> o_O 18:27 -!- Jasper_Deng_away [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:27 -!- Jasper_Deng_conn is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 18:27 < Carly> We need to contact Wikipedians.from Bolivia 18:27 < Peter-C> Oh dear god. Some woman was just issued 3 summonses :s 18:28 < Carly> And send them an invite to Wikimeeting 18:28 < Koi> Peter-C: er.? 18:28 < Swob> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Bolivia 18:28 < Swob> all five of them! 18:28 < Carly> Bradford apurate.mi.internet esta lento 18:28 < Peter-C> That means she was driving so horribly she got 3 tickets 18:28 < Peter-C> It's impressive 18:28 < Peter-C> Means she will not drive for a while 18:28 < Koi> Carly: yo lo matare tu interneto. 18:28 < Bradford> O_O 18:29 < Carly> Thank you Swob :( 18:29 < Swob> not one of those five is an active editor, either 18:29 < Koi> Carly: desupues, lo dare a tu un abrazo muy muy muy muy grande. 18:29 < Carly> Koi whats up bro?! 18:29 < Swob> so either the active people just dont say theyre from Bolivia or it's going to be pretty tough searching 18:29 < Bradford> www.Idontwant.com 18:29 < CrackyWacky> lol 18:29 < Koi> Carly: que sucedio? NADA. ABSOLUTAMENTE NADA. 18:29 < CrackyWacky> for sho 18:29 < Bradford> Carly: www.Idontwant.com no sirve 18:30 < ChrisGualtieri> Any admin free? I had an RFC get archived before it could be closed; not sure how to respond 18:30 < Swob> oh, there's also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bolivian_Wikipedians 18:30 < Swob> link, ChrisG? 18:30 < Carly> Bradford andan lokos xd 18:30 < Bradford> =_0 18:30 < Swob> you seem like a nice guy, i'll at least look at it, not sure I can help 18:30 < Koi> Carly: me quieres dar abrazos a Swob? 18:31 < ChrisGualtieri> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump_%28policy%29&diff=556225415&oldid=556223832 Bot archived it from Pump 18:31 < Bradford> o_O 18:31 < Carly> Ok 18:31 < Bradford> Carly: ese Koi que idioma habla 18:31 < Koi> Carly: quieres? 18:31 < Bradford> XD 18:31 < Carly> Koi hugs to that? No thanks 18:31 < Carly> :| 18:31 < Koi> Bradford: no seas puta. 18:31 < Bradford> 0_o 18:31 < ChrisGualtieri> It'd be great to tag it to WP:MOS-AM though as it concerns the removal of a line 18:32 < Koi> Bradford: tu eres muy pequeno. 18:32 < Carly> Hahahaha 18:32 * Carly cuddles Koi 18:33 < Carly> Xd 18:33 < Carly> Koi he is 13 years old. 18:33 < Carly> Very very little :| 18:33 < Koi> Carly: el no es bueno en cama. 18:34 < Koi> no es como Juanes. 18:34 < Bradford> XD 18:34 < Koi> "cama cama cama baby..." 18:34 < Carly> ( ¡ ) 18:35 < Koi> Carly: no te gusta el Juanes? 18:35 < Bradford> wtf 18:35 < Bradford> SUPER ULTRA MEGA WTF 18:35 < Koi> Bradford: si, puedes ir a fuckearte. 18:35 < Bradford> ._. 18:36 -!- Carly [~androirc@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:36 < Koi> LOL 18:37 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 18:38 -!- Cauthon [~chatzilla@cpe-24-93-133-189.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:38 -!- Carly [~androirc@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:38 < Carly> Bradford encontrast algo 18:38 -!- Mike_HH is now known as Mike_H 18:38 < Bradford> No 18:38 < Bradford> |: 18:39 < Carly> :/ 18:39 < Carly> That bad 18:40 < Carly> Bradford en Google pone Love Monuments 18:40 < Carly> Y te sale :p 18:40 < Bradford> xd 18:40 < Bradford> all too well 18:41 < Carly> :) 18:41 < Carly> I am tired and tomorrow is free day to enjoy with friends 18:42 < Carly> Bradford good night and please find the emails soon 18:42 -!- Carly is now known as Carly|sleep 18:42 < Bradford> ok 18:47 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:47 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:50 < Swob> i wonder if Echo will go live anytime soon 18:50 -!- Carly|sleep [~androirc@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Quit: No worry where you come from,worry where you're going] 18:51 < Dragonfly6-7> iss't it already 18:52 -!- G_Princess [~hexersGFL@static-98-140-131-222.dsl.cavtel.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:52 -!- G_Princess [~hexersGFL@static-98-140-131-222.dsl.cavtel.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 18:54 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:57 < Sky2042> Swob: Echo turned into notifications iirc. 18:57 -!- Vito [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:57 < Sky2042> s/iirc/understand correctly/ 18:58 < Swob> well there was more 18:58 < Swob> it was going to be LiquiDthreads 18:58 < Sky2042> nah, that's Flow you're thinking of. 18:58 < Swob> oh 18:58 < Swob> i wonder if Flow will go live anytime soon 18:58 * Sky2042 laughs. 18:58 -!- Vito_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/vito] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:58 < Dragonfly6-7> It had better not. 18:59 < Sky2042> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow 18:59 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:00 < Swob> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal/FAQ#Will_there_be_avatars.3F 19:01 < Swob> they said no to avatars! 19:01 < Swob> theyre taking away custom signatures too 19:01 < Swob> no more being able to sign as a green bar of soap 19:02 < Sky2042> (thank god) 19:02 < Sky2042> custom sigs need(ed) to die in a fire. 19:02 < Swob> custom sigs help make pages easier to read 19:02 < Bradford> ._. 19:03 < Swob> if you say no to custom sigs you should at least allow avatars 19:03 < Swob> having neither is basically like making everything DOS mode 19:04 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:04 -!- RD2 is now known as RD 19:06 < Sky2042> DOS mode is not a bad thing 19:06 < mareklug> Swob there were 11 in the crunchy version. 19:06 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@ubuntu/member/logan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:06 -!- kingturtle [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingturtle] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:07 < Revent> Anyone know of a better guide for WikiProject banner syntax than the (crappy) template docs? Having someone following me around changing things like |needs-image=y to {{Image needed}} makes me sad... 19:08 < Revent> (not changing the assessments or anything, just the syntax) 19:08 -!- mindspillage [~kat@50-196-147-157-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:08 -!- mindspillage [~kat@50-196-147-157-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:08 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:09 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:09 -!- YE|AFK is now known as YE 19:10 -!- GW|Away [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:11 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12 < CrackyWacky> yay 19:12 < CrackyWacky> i got my new google maps invite! 19:15 -!- matt_buck [~mattbuck@host86-134-59-126.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:16 -!- mattbuck [~mattbuck@host86-134-59-126.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:17 -!- Firefly67 [~Firefly67@unaffiliated/firefly67] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:20 -!- Sky2042 [~Sky2042@wikipedia/Izno] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21 -!- zz_YuviPanda is now known as YuviPanda 19:23 -!- Sky2042 [~Sky2042@wikipedia/Izno] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:23 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:23 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:23 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:25 -!- YuviPanda [~YuviPanda@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Changing host] 19:25 -!- YuviPanda [~YuviPanda@mediawiki/yuvipanda] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:28 -!- zscout370_ [~zscout370@108-247-186-200.lightspeed.fyvlar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:28 -!- zscout370_ [~zscout370@108-247-186-200.lightspeed.fyvlar.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:29 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:29 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@ubuntu/member/logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:29 -!- zscout370 [~zscout370@wikipedia/Zscout370] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:31 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 19:31 -!- FastLizard4|away is now known as FastLizard4 19:33 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:33 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:35 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:38 -!- jzatopa [~angelsHEP@75-149-211-182-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:38 -!- harej [~quassel@static-68-239-82-231.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:38 -!- harej [~quassel@static-68-239-82-231.res.east.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:38 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:38 -!- jzatopa [~angelsHEP@75-149-211-182-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 19:39 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:40 < SigmaWP> Does anyone know that thing you do to make the [edit] links go back to the far right? 19:40 -!- matt_buck is now known as mattbuck 19:43 -!- Victorium [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:43 -!- Victorium [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has quit [Changing host] 19:43 -!- Victorium [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:45 < Sky2042> SigmaWP: In your common.css file, something to the effect of .mw-editsection {float: right} should do it 19:45 < SigmaWP> That was too easy 19:46 < Sky2042> i could be wrong. 19:46 < Sky2042> but i think that's it 19:47 -!- TOS3 [TOS@117.194.82.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:47 < SigmaWP> You're right 19:47 < SigmaWP> Thanks 19:50 < Sky2042> :D 19:50 < Sky2042> yay! 19:52 -!- Sky2042 [~Sky2042@wikipedia/Izno] has quit [Quit: sleep] 19:54 -!- sdamashek|away is now known as sdamashek 19:55 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:55 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 19:58 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:01 -!- FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|iPad 20:02 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:04 < Victorium> why is the edit section link next to the section name 20:04 < Swob> hi Victorium, welcome to Wikipedia. Stick around awhile and youl llearn some of the great things that have happened in the last few years 20:05 < Swob> oh wait its you 20:05 < Victorium> this is my less than public irc name 20:05 * Swob embarrassed *"* 20:05 < Victorium> don't be 20:05 < Swob> i figured you were a heavy user from 2008 or so that just now came back 20:06 < Swob> I embarrass easily 20:06 < Victorium> I did join in 2009 and I remember far right edit section things 20:06 < YuviPanda> they changed about a month back 20:06 < Victorium> and this is fucking throwing me off 20:07 < YuviPanda> adding .mw-editsection {float: right} to your common.css should 'fix' it 20:07 < Victorium> one sec 20:07 < Victorium> thanks so much 20:08 < Victorium> I have been detained for the past few weeks 20:08 < YuviPanda> 'detained'? 20:08 < Victorium> silly finals 20:08 < Victorium> and papers 20:09 < Victorium> I finished a GA today btw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Town 20:13 -!- Swob is now known as {soap|bed} 20:20 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23 -!- JKL1234- is now known as JKL|lejos 20:25 -!- LtNOWIS-mobile [~LtNOWIS@m8c2336d0.tmodns.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:25 -!- {soap|bed} [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has quit [Quit: bed] 20:26 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-098-027-034-197.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:27 -!- LtNOWIS-mobile2 [~LtNOWIS@pool-173-66-20-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:27 -!- LtNOWIS-mobile2 [~LtNOWIS@pool-173-66-20-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:27 -!- LtNOWIS-mobile2 [~LtNOWIS@pool-173-66-20-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:31 -!- LtNOWIS-mobile [~LtNOWIS@m8c2336d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:37 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:39 -!- Prodego [~Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:40 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:42 -!- JKL|lejos is now known as JKL1234- 20:49 -!- Cauthon [~chatzilla@cpe-24-93-133-189.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 20:51 -!- admin_ [~admin@171.216.80.47] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:51 -!- admin_ [~admin@171.216.80.47] has quit [Client Quit] 20:53 -!- ChrisGualtieri [~IceChat77@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:03 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 21:04 -!- Jamesofur is now known as Jamesofur|away 21:11 -!- evilgohan2 [~freenode@c-69-251-240-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:11 -!- evilgohan2 [~freenode@c-69-251-240-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:12 < Revent> *hehs* Random biography....I like this... a lot... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Wurman#Church_of_Beethoven 21:14 -!- Theo10011 [~Theo10011@wikimedia/Theo10011] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:15 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 21:16 < Amqui> meanwhile in Canada http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Vic7jRHvA 21:17 -!- spyro [~shentino@gentoo/contributor/shentino] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:19 < Revent> *lol* Can't hit the ramp till ya have a 40... 21:20 < Dragonfly6-7> Hi 21:24 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:24 -!- BR____ [b3ea926a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.234.146.106] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:25 -!- LtNOWIS-mobile2 [~LtNOWIS@pool-173-66-20-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:25 -!- spyro [~shentino@gentoo/contributor/shentino] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:28 < Revent> Hey admin! :) 21:28 < Revent> Talk:Kris_Wu <- orphan from redirected article 21:29 -!- Hazard-SJ [~Hazard-SJ@wikimedia/Hazard-SJ] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 1 second] 21:29 -!- Writ_Keeper [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Writ-Keeper] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 21:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so suicide is how french protest nowadays against gay marriage? 21:30 < legoktm> RIP 21:30 < legoktm> Revent: so? 21:30 < Revent> *shrugs* Not a biggie, just random MfD 21:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> legoktm if I am reading this correctly a french ideolog(?) Dominique Venner commited suicide leaving back some sort of document 21:32 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22628159 21:32 -!- Victorium [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:32 < Dragonfly6-7> "ideologue" 21:32 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Quit: TE AMO SIMON :-)] 21:32 < BR____> olá, pessoal! / ¡hola, personas! / hello, people! 21:33 < legoktm> Revent: I don't think those get deleted. 21:34 < Revent> I'm pretty sure it's G8 speedy... tank page of deleted page... 21:34 < Revent> *talk 21:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> why cant Dominique Venner and that meat cleaver guy from the UK have a talk over coffee? 21:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> that conversation would be fascinating 21:35 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 21:36 < Fyre> helll 21:36 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:36 < Fyre> hello 21:36 < CrackyWacky> yes hello 21:36 < Detox_> y harro thar 21:36 < Prodego> ToAruShiroiNeko: I hope that one day suicide will be the universal form of protest against doing things the way I want 21:37 -!- Detox_ is now known as detox_ 21:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> suicide is not a good way to protest 21:37 < detox_> wpontaneous combustion is! 21:37 < CrackyWacky> i agree 21:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> your action is forgotten whenever the next iPhone is out 21:37 < Fyre> spontaneous 21:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> real protest is being an iPhone designer 21:38 < Fyre> who cares, ToAruShiroiNeko 21:38 < CrackyWacky> shut up 21:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Fyre iPhone users 21:38 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:38 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 21:38 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:39 < CrackyWacky> ah ok 21:39 -!- CrackyWacky [uid11656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sfrfrodfljryqsvl] has quit [Changing host] 21:39 -!- CrackyWacky [uid11656@unaffiliated/fierce] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:39 -!- CrackyWacky [uid11656@unaffiliated/fierce] has quit [Changing host] 21:39 -!- CrackyWacky [uid11656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sfrfrodfljryqsvl] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:40 * Fyre fartss 21:40 < detox_> ew 21:40 < CrackyWacky> gross 21:40 < Revent> *rolls* 21:40 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:40 < Revent> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_of_sex_workers 21:40 -!- FastLizard4|iPad is now known as FastLizard4 21:41 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:41 < detox_> well, we gotta ask jimmy wales to make some porn since he used to own a porn 21:42 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:42 < IDoH> Hey guys 21:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> IDoH do you have ops here? 21:42 < IDoH> No, I don't. 21:42 < IDoH> Why? 21:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you should if trolls show up 21:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :/ 21:43 < IDoH> I know, I should totally have ops. 21:43 < detox_> trolls like me? 21:43 < CrackyWacky> or me? 21:43 < Fyre> even me? 21:43 < IDoH> But how does one go about getting ops? 21:43 < Fyre> dunno 21:43 * CrackyWacky doesn't know 21:43 < detox_> no idea. 21:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> IDoH by casting a spell 21:43 < IDoH> LOL 21:43 < Prodego> detox_: Can we start like this? http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/9/94/Jimbo-bikini-babes.jpg 21:44 < CrackyWacky> yes good idea 21:44 < Prodego> AFAIK that is a real picture 21:44 * legoktm slaps Prodego 21:44 < CrackyWacky> lol 21:44 < legoktm> uncyclopedia moved! 21:44 * CrackyWacky slaps Prodego 21:44 * Fyre slaps Prodego 21:44 * detox_ slaps Prodego as well 21:44 < IDoH> Stop slapping people, guys. 21:44 < Prodego> y'all know you want it 21:44 < legoktm> http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/9/94/Jimbo-bikini-babes.jpg 21:45 * detox_ throws frozen fish sticks around 21:45 < legoktm> http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Main_Page 21:45 < legoktm> new site! 21:45 * Fyre catches the fish sticks 21:45 * CrackyWacky throws them at IDoH 21:45 < IDoH> Stop that. 21:46 < detox_> stop what 21:46 < Fyre> snoooooooooop 21:46 < IDoH> Stop throwing fish sticks around, and slapping people. 21:46 < CrackyWacky> stop that? 21:46 * CrackyWacky likes slapping 21:46 < Fyre> slapping is healthy 21:47 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:47 < detox_> very health 21:47 < Fyre> hello, russavia 21:47 < IDoH> Hey russavia. 21:47 < CrackyWacky> sup russavia 21:47 < detox_> hey russavia 21:47 < SigmaWP> hi russavia 21:48 < detox_> hello SigmaWP 21:48 < Fyre> hey SigmaWP 21:48 < CrackyWacky> hola SigmaWP 21:49 * detox_ slaps Fyre 21:49 * CrackyWacky slaps Fyre 21:49 * Fyre slaps detox_ 21:49 < IDoH> Sigh 21:49 * CrackyWacky slaps CrackyWacky 21:49 -!- Mr-ex777 [~chatzilla@202.82.11.104] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:49 * Fyre slaps random people 21:50 < IDoH> Hey Mr-ex777. 21:50 < russavia> hey all 21:50 < russavia> happy birthday deutschland 21:51 < detox_> yay 21:51 < detox_> happy birthday 21:51 < CrackyWacky> guten tag 21:51 < Fyre> happy fucking birthday 21:51 < Fyre> yay 21:51 < Fyre> let's have a massive orgy 21:52 < CrackyWacky> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 21:52 < IDoH> Keep it PG-13, please, Fyre. 21:52 < detox_> in pink? 21:52 < Fyre> okay, cannonball the fiddle cove 21:52 < Fyre> with the pork steeple? 21:53 < Fyre> ham wallet? 21:54 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57 < Theo10011> Yes, hello 21:58 < SigmaWP> sigh 21:58 < SigmaWP> WP:AN is making me sad 21:58 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: Malvolio] 21:58 < Susan> alt-f4 21:58 < Susan> cmd-w 21:59 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:59 < Prodego> SysRq 21:59 < Prodego> no wait, I'm doing it wrong 21:59 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@90.220.135.67] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:59 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@90.220.135.67] has quit [Changing host] 21:59 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:10 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@d207-216-143-248.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:10 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@d207-216-143-248.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:10 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@wikipedia/mkdw] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:11 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:13 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:13 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Client Quit] 22:14 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:16 -!- Firefly67 [~Firefly67@unaffiliated/firefly67] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:19 -!- Firefly67 [~Firefly67@unaffiliated/firefly67] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> legoktm what? 22:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> uncyclopedia cant move even with a tornado 22:34 < legoktm> it did 22:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the sacrilige! 22:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> why does uncyclopedia exist? 22:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> shouldnt it be decyclopedia? 22:36 -!- JKL1234- is now known as JKL|lejos 22:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> legoktm it is amazing that only 24 people died in oklohoma 22:39 < Jasper_Deng> {{verification failed}} 22:39 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@wikipedia/mkdw] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/22/us/oklahoma-tornado/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 22:40 < koishi> wikidata doesn't seem to work right 22:40 < koishi> you move links to wikidata and... then what 22:40 < koishi> how do you get to them? 22:40 < Jasper_Deng> koishi: ? 22:41 < koishi> not sure how i can make it any clearer 22:42 < Jasper_Deng> what does it mean to "get at them"? 22:43 < koishi> get to a given article in those other languages? 22:43 < Jasper_Deng> it's on the sidebar 22:43 < Jasper_Deng> as before 22:43 < koishi> but they never show up 22:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> koishi is asking what to type to make them show up 22:43 < koishi> every time a bot moves the links i have to readd page links because idk h- yeah that 22:44 < koishi> more code? bleh 22:44 < Jasper_Deng> koishi: which page? 22:44 < koishi> what's the point of wikidata actually 22:44 < koishi> any given page 22:44 < Jasper_Deng> right now it's not very useful b/c the developers haven't got the right datatypes ready for us to use 22:44 < koishi> waiting for a wikitemplate so all the templates get moved there, etc 22:44 < Jasper_Deng> the idea is to make a central repository of information 22:45 < Jasper_Deng> like, for example, someone's age 22:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Jasper_Deng dont peoples age depend on their speed 22:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> relativistic effects matter 22:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p 22:48 -!- Dragonfly6-7 [~test@bas1-montreal48-1096716442.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 22:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> koishi I too am waiting for that 22:54 -!- LtNOWIS-mobile [~LtNOWIS@pool-173-66-20-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:59 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00 < BR____> até logo, pessoal! / ¡hasta luego, personas! / bye, people! 23:10 -!- David_Stevenson [~David@wikimedia/Moe-Epsilon] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:10 -!- sdamashek is now known as sdamashek|sleep 23:11 < Revent> Ye, wikidata doesn't even work for a lot of simple stuff yet....you can create the data records, but not 'get to' them. 23:12 < Jasper_Deng> nah, it's more like the former 23:12 -!- David_Stevenson [~David@wikimedia/Moe-Epsilon] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:12 < Jasper_Deng> you can /get/ at information technically, but the English Wikipedia did not choose to enable that 23:12 < Jasper_Deng> or rather, get consensus to use it 23:12 < Revent> *shrugs* I was trying to figure out how to use it for citing books....the book data's there, but....useless. 23:13 < Revent> Well...some book data. 23:13 < koishi> if there's no way to use it, someone needs to turn off the bots lol 23:13 < Jasper_Deng> You can't yet 23:13 < koishi> or at least revert the removal 23:15 -!- Firefly67 [~Firefly67@unaffiliated/firefly67] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:15 -!- reminisc1nce [nifky@creep.bur.st] has quit [Changing host] 23:15 -!- reminisc1nce [nifky@wikia/vstf/wikimedia.Nifky] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:16 -!- reminisc1nce is now known as reminiscence 23:20 -!- Firefly67 [~Firefly67@unaffiliated/firefly67] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:26 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:30 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@87-95-12-126.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:31 -!- APexil [~you@63-228-70-9.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:31 -!- APexil [~you@63-228-70-9.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:31 -!- APexil [~you@unaffiliated/apexil] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:31 -!- Philon [~Philon@unaffiliated/philon] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:38 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@g231115007.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:43 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@ubuntu/member/logan] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:45 -!- Alveric [~Alveric@207-47-230-55.regn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:45 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 23:47 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:48 -!- Alveric [~Alveric@207-47-230-55.regn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 23:50 -!- Andy123 [~PH@wikimedia/Sir-Nicholas-de-Mimsy-Porpington] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:51 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:51 -!- Prodego [~Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit [Quit: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] 23:55 -!- YuviPanda is now known as zz_YuviPanda 23:58 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:59 -!- Ed17 [~Ed17@24-177-152-33.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:59 -!- Ed17 [~Ed17@24-177-152-33.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 23:59 -!- Ed17 [~Ed17@wikipedia/the-ed17] has joined #wikipedia-en --- Log closed Thu May 23 00:00:48 2013