User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2013-05-29
MyWikiBiz, Author Your Legacy — Wednesday December 25, 2024
Jump to navigationJump to search--- Log opened Wed May 29 00:00:09 2013 --- Day changed Wed May 29 2013 00:00 < mareklug> http://www.asante.com 00:00 < dtm> call tech support 00:02 < mareklug> http://www.asante.com/support/legacy/adapters/asantefast.asp 00:02 < mareklug> he he 00:03 < mareklug> AsanteFast 10/100 PCI Adapter Rev. B <-- tht is what mine says 00:03 < dtm> k 00:03 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:03 -!- QuelqueChoseRose is now known as PinkSomething 00:04 < mareklug> except mine is Nubus not PCI :( 00:05 < dtm> :-o 00:06 -!- PinkSomething is now known as Queueing 00:07 < mareklug> support@asante.com I guess 00:07 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:08 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:08 -!- Queueing is now known as PinkSomething 00:08 -!- Writ_Keeper [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Writ-Keeper] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 00:09 < dtm> mareklug: yes. 00:11 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:11 -!- PinkSomething is now known as LAmpersandEnRose 00:14 -!- amway [ThrashIRC@cm91.eta29.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:17 < mareklug> {{done}} 00:18 < mareklug> dtm now, any idea about the cursed Photoshop not opening? 00:21 -!- Betacommand [~Betacomma@unaffiliated/betacommand] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21 < mareklug> ha! on a related success note, I got my 1998 Powerbook to correctly serve ftp to my 2009 iMac. So I am networked at home! And I can do that on a 3400 Powerbook running Mac OS 8.1. Now if I get do it on the IIci, it will be total win. The IIci does not talk yet in Appletalk to the 8.1/9.22 operating system machines. 00:25 < BlastHardcheese> ew appletalk 00:26 < mareklug> hey don't knock it. I get nicely mounted LAN drives among my 3 powerbooks with drag and drop 00:27 -!- LAmpersandEnRose is now known as Pink|battery 00:27 -!- juliancolton [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:33 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:39 -!- kriminologia [d9429f2f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.66.159.47] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:41 < mareklug> dtm http://www.asante.com/downloads/legacy/afnubusrm.pdf yup, missing a driver, which I just got my paws on. 00:50 -!- Ks0stm [~Ks0stm@wikipedia/Ks0stm] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51 -!- Ks0stm [~Ks0stm@wikipedia/Ks0stm] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:55 -!- YuviPanda is now known as PissedPanda 00:57 -!- amway [ThrashIRC@cm91.eta29.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.9 sic populo comunicated] 00:57 -!- kriminologia [d9429f2f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.66.159.47] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:59 -!- Mr-ex777 [~chatzilla@202.82.11.104] has quit [Quit: PWNT] 01:02 -!- martijnHH [~MartijnH@92.64.31.85] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:02 -!- martijnHH [~MartijnH@92.64.31.85] has quit [Changing host] 01:02 -!- martijnHH [~MartijnH@wikipedia/Martijn-Hoekstra] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:03 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@cbs2-cdif3-0-0-cust29.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:03 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@cbs2-cdif3-0-0-cust29.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 01:03 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@wikipedia/Basalisk] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:09 -!- Bjarki [~Thunderbi@wikipedia/Bjarki-S] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:11 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:13 -!- enhydra [kalan@wikimedia/Kalan] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:13 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@c-24-23-243-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:13 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@c-24-23-243-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:13 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:13 -!- p858snake|l_ [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:17 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:19 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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can mount each other's disks and do drag and drop on them. 04:25 < mareklug> BlastHardcheese ^ ftw 04:25 < wctaiwan> apple talk? 04:25 < wctaiwan> ... 04:25 < mareklug> apple talk over ethernet 04:26 < wctaiwan> do you also swear by AppleWorks 6? 04:27 < mareklug> no, i acquired a copy with the $91 1998 Powerbook G3 Series 233 MHz that I just got, together with Quark Xpress 4.1, Photoshop 7, and Adobe Illustrator 10.0. Yes, there is AppleWorks there as well. And Filemaker Pro, whatever that is good for. And Microsoft Office 2001 for the Mac. 04:27 < wctaiwan> ooh, office 2001 for mac 04:27 < wctaiwan> is that v.X? 04:27 < wctaiwan> that one was hilariously bad. 04:28 < mareklug> you have to admit, that is not badly spent 91 dollars. and the machine is in a fabulous condition, physically. 04:28 < wctaiwan> that's the one before it. 04:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug would you pay 400k for an apple 1? 04:28 < mareklug> no, I fired up this MS Office and it is snappy and appears to be no worse than my copy from 2008 that runs on X 10.8.3 04:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its out of warranty! 04:29 < mareklug> no, I don't collect precious jewlery. 04:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> wow that would be badd ass 04:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> an apple 1 bling bling 04:32 -!- LtNOWIS-mobile [~LtNOWIS@mda5a36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> who warns of sars? 04:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> who wouldn't warn of sars 04:37 < mareklug> wctaiwan what is more amazing is that in the innards of my other IIci which is refusing to boot and stay booted (PRAM battery?), I found an Asante Fast Ethernet 10/100 Nubus Card. These things, I am told, are the bee's knees in Nubus/680x0 networking, and are now selling for 175-280 a pop. But I have not got it to transmit data yet. It passes diagnostics, but I have trouble installing its driver, as the soft prompts me to "insert the disk". 04:37 < mareklug> I am hoping that a resident copy of Disk Copy 6.3.3. will make the differerence by somehow mounting a virtual image of the stuff. 04:38 < wctaiwan> mareklug: you should have a chat with Isarra some time. 04:38 < wctaiwan> you two both specialise in trying to get stuff I'd give up on to work. 04:39 < mareklug> wctaiwan I do, but she is into obsolete Intel/AMD computers that are windows boxes she presses into linux service, whereas I am resurrecting an Apple museum because I actually have working Desktop Publishing software for all this stuff. :) 04:39 -!- BadDesign [~cpp@unaffiliated/baddesign] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:40 < mareklug> wctaiwan and I maxed out the IIci in memory: I had 32 meg, now… https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/105918205/memory%20on%20IIci.jpg 04:41 < wctaiwan> I've forgotten how awkward Chicago looked. 04:41 < wctaiwan> (system font for OS pre-X) 04:42 < BadDesign> I'm interested in finding out whether articles on English Wikipedia use other ways to display coordinates near the title besides the {{Coord template from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Coord with display=title attribute? 04:42 < mareklug> it's a lovely piece of design, actually. Someone even made an app recently for the iOS that mimicks it. 04:42 < BadDesign> I intend to parse the dump to grab all the articles that have coordinates near the title 04:42 < wctaiwan> it's got character, unlike Lucida Grande 04:42 < wctaiwan> but I don't need my system font to have character 04:43 < mareklug> well, it matters not. I have these systems, and I have character. :) :) :) 04:43 < mareklug> or characters in Chicago font. 04:43 < wctaiwan> and a fiery temper to match ;-) 04:43 < mareklug> I am laid back this morn/ 04:44 < mareklug> btw I can ftp from X 10.8.3 to two machines on 9.2.2 and one on 8.1 with a single click from Terminal's New Remote Connection window. :) 04:45 < mareklug> no go yet on seeing the 7.5.3 box from X. 04:52 -!- basile is now known as guillom 04:52 -!- GorillaWarfare [6c14245e@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:07 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:08 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:08 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has quit [Changing host] 05:08 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:11 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:12 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:16 -!- martijnHH [~MartijnH@wikipedia/Martijn-Hoekstra] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:20 -!- zz_PissedPanda is now known as YuviPanda 05:23 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:26 -!- Mr-ex777 [~chatzilla@cm218-253-17-171.hkcable.com.hk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 05:28 -!- sdamashek|sleep is now known as sdamashek 05:28 -!- Deskana [~chatzilla@46-64-89-33.zone15.bethere.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:28 -!- Deskana [~chatzilla@46-64-89-33.zone15.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Changing host] 05:28 -!- Deskana [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:29 -!- Deskana is now known as Moskau 05:32 -!- samurai_ [samurai@106.213.197.198] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:33 -!- Fae [~Fae@wikipedia/Fae] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121024073032]] 05:35 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:35 < samurai_> hi............ 05:36 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:39 -!- Writ_Keeper [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Writ-Keeper] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:39 < GorillaWarfare> Morning 05:40 < Writ_Keeper> mornin' 05:40 < samurai_> morning 05:40 < kondi> morning 05:41 < samurai_> @orilla warfare.you interested in army man? 05:42 < GorillaWarfare> samurai_: Nope 05:42 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@188-67-43-234.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:43 < samurai_> @gorilla warfare what are your interests then? 05:43 < GorillaWarfare> samurai_: Editing Wikipedia. Writing code. 05:44 -!- martijnHH [~MartijnH@92.64.31.85] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:44 -!- martijnHH [~MartijnH@92.64.31.85] has quit [Changing host] 05:44 -!- martijnHH [~MartijnH@wikipedia/Martijn-Hoekstra] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:44 < samurai_> i see......i use wikipedia every day........ 05:44 < gry> code in what field and language? 05:45 < GorillaWarfare> samurai_: Me too 05:45 < GorillaWarfare> gry: In my spare time, I prefer Python. For school and work I typically use C and C++ 05:45 -!- BadDesign [~cpp@unaffiliated/baddesign] has quit [Quit: I need more RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM! NOW!!!!!!!] 05:46 < gry> do you package stuff for linux distros or just python programs without packaging? 05:46 < samurai_> i am interested in military stuff.there is loads of it on wikipedia.:-) 05:46 * wctaiwan senses a chance for a py3k v. python 2 war >>> 05:46 < wctaiwan> >.> 05:46 < GorillaWarfare> gry: The latter 05:46 < gry> python for web development or for desktop apps? do you do the naughty unit testing and all? :) 05:46 < GorillaWarfare> Desktop, and yeah, a bit 05:46 < wctaiwan> I actually prefer C to just about everything, mostly because it's the only one I know well enough to be comfortable coding in >.< 05:47 < GorillaWarfare> samurai_: Indeed there is 05:51 < Qcoder00> So Liberty Reserve gets busted for handling illeg shit 05:51 < Qcoder00> Can;t be long before BitCoin exchnages get into toru7ble then 05:51 < Qcoder00> But PayPal being legit comes out of it clean :) 05:52 < wctaiwan> PayPal has a poor reputation of a different kind 05:52 < GorillaWarfare> ^ 05:53 < wctaiwan> I recall reading more than a few times about accounts being frozen for no apparent reason, with little recourse 05:55 < GorillaWarfare> Yeah, I know some people who have had that happen 05:55 -!- martijnHH [~MartijnH@wikipedia/Martijn-Hoekstra] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:55 < Qcoder00> But hey at least PayPal doesn't facilitate 'illegal activity' like durgs , child porn, or money laundering 05:55 < Qcoder00> XD 05:55 < Qcoder00> or for that matter organised criminal sale of copyright infringing materials 05:56 -!- phlipp [956a2c37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.149.106.44.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:00 -!- Fae [~Fae@host-80-47-76-141.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:00 -!- Fae [~Fae@host-80-47-76-141.as13285.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:00 -!- Fae [~Fae@wikipedia/Fae] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:05 -!- YE is now known as YE|AFK 06:05 -!- samurai_ [samurai@106.213.197.198] has left #wikipedia-en ["Leaving"] 06:10 -!- Guerillero 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network.] 07:38 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Quit: mareklug] 07:38 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:40 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Nick] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:41 -!- ragesoss [~quassel@wikimedia/ragesoss] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:42 -!- Denny_WMDE1 [~Adium@p5DDC5AA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:45 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has quit [Quit: While there's life, there's hope.] 07:45 -!- Denny_WMDE [~Adium@p5DDC52F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:52 -!- kondi [~kondi@wikimedia/kondicherry] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:52 -!- Pink|battery [uid7952@wikidata/PinkAmpersand] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:53 -!- Theo10011 is now known as Maeby 07:53 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:53 -!- James_F is now known as James_F|Away 07:55 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:56 -!- TParis [~TParis-PC@cpe-24-243-23-129.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:56 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:57 < Qcoder00> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaan_Kross - Korean error msg? 07:59 -!- Hahc21 is now known as Hahc21|Busy 07:59 < Fluffernutter> heh, cool 08:00 * Fluffernutter investigates 08:01 -!- sdamashek is now known as sdamashek|away 08:02 < wctaiwan> seems caused by http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jaan_Kross&diff=556820504&oldid=543767899 08:02 < wctaiwan> but… o_O 08:03 < wctaiwan> I reverted. 08:03 < wctaiwan> but I'm still curious how that came to happen. 08:03 < Fluffernutter> yeah, i can make the error go away but no idea why it was in korean 08:04 < wctaiwan> …and ec'd. what a failure. 08:04 * Fluffernutter beat you :P 08:04 < wctaiwan> does <references /> magically take the user's homewiki language into account or something? 08:04 < wctaiwan> it makes no sense. 08:05 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:06 < Fluffernutter> i suspect something went wonky within the backend code that generates that error message, but i don't know how to track such a thing down 08:07 < Soapy> it looks fine to me 08:07 < Soapy> whatwas the error? 08:07 < Fluffernutter> Soapy: the "there are <ref> tags in this page, but no <references/>" message was being delivered in korean 08:08 < Soapy> does it still show Korean even when you viewe the diff now? 08:08 < Fluffernutter> i fixed the underlying ref error 08:08 < wctaiwan> now in english, yes. 08:08 < wctaiwan> this is fascinating. 08:08 -!- Philon [~Philon@unaffiliated/philon] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:11 * Fluffernutter is going to be bothered by this if we can't figure it out 08:12 < wctaiwan> well the evidence was destroyed 08:12 < wctaiwan> have fun tracing the code :p 08:12 -!- Maeby is now known as Theo10011 08:14 < TheDruId> Just showing that it doesn't matter, because if matter can neither be created nor destroyed... 08:15 < Soapy> well, maybe it is just as you said 08:15 < Soapy> the bleeding red error message comes up in the user's home language figuring theyre the ones most likely to see it 08:15 < TheDruId> Anyone else want a soda...:p 08:15 < Soapy> and then switches when someone else edits 08:17 -!- anustart [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:18 < Fluffernutter> man, according to [[Template:Broken ref]], Korean isn't even an OPTION for language in that template. Wtf, mediawiki. 08:19 < Soapy> i think that might not be the right template 08:20 < Soapy> wait maybe it is 08:20 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Nick] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:20 < Soapy> its the third from the bottom 08:20 < Fluffernutter> (i reverted the error back into the article for the moment so we can wtf at it) 08:20 -!- Carly|busy [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:20 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@cbs2-cdif3-0-0-cust29.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:20 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@cbs2-cdif3-0-0-cust29.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 08:20 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@wikipedia/Basalisk] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:21 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-96-224-16-199.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:21 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 08:21 < Soapy> it exists though 08:21 < Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Cite_error_refs_without_references/ko&action=edit 08:22 < Soapy> it might be pulling from meta or something 08:22 < Soapy> since there's no history for that MediaWiki page 08:23 < Soapy> or it's built in to the MediaWiki software somehow 08:23 < Fluffernutter> other pages are displaying the message in english 08:24 < Fluffernutter> and now so is it 08:24 < Soapy> well yeah i think its becayse the Korean user was the one to trigger it 08:24 < Fluffernutter> if that's what it does, it ought to not do that 08:24 < Soapy> [[MediaWiki:Cite error refs without references/ko]] 08:25 * Fluffernutter gives up 08:25 < Soapy> i assume that MediaWiki namespace sometimes has automaticallyt generated pages 08:25 -!- TB|Away [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:28 < anustart> Fluffernutter: Soapy http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Cite_error_refs_without_references/ko 08:28 < Fyre> weee i'm on a train! 08:28 < Carly|busy> ^_^ 08:28 < TheDruId> Fyre, <green> 08:28 * Carly|busy buys new boots 08:29 < Fyre> train is stuck for an hour 08:29 < Theo10011> OMG Carly|busy 08:29 < Theo10011> call me maeby 08:29 < Theo10011> well not anymore 08:29 < Soapy> what dos Maeby mean anyway 08:29 < Carly|busy> Xd 08:29 < Carly|busy> Haha 08:29 < Fyre> mayble 08:29 < Soapy> n/m 08:29 < Soapy> its yet another Arrested Development reference 08:30 < Theo10011> Also a song. 08:30 < Theo10011> but ya AD 08:30 < Soapy> Arrested Development was a band, wasnt it? 08:31 < Soapy> yeah 08:32 -!- Soapy [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has quit [Quit: bed] 08:32 < Carly|busy> I love Caterpillar :D 08:32 * Carly|busy faints 08:33 < Fyre> can you believe i'm being paid for doing NOTHING for 8 hours on a train to NYC? 08:33 < Carly|busy> Yes I believe 08:34 < Fyre> train is stuck at customs -_- 08:36 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@wikipedia/Basalisk] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:37 < Fyre> whoa, two black dudes got escorted with 4 CBP agents 08:37 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:37 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 08:37 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:41 -!- Carly|busy is now known as NorthFace 08:41 < Fyre> those 2 black dudes just left the train 08:43 -!- anona [~z31fcs@99-90-197-87.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:43 -!- ragesoss [~quassel@wikimedia/ragesoss] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:43 < TheDruId> Was it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Freeman and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_deGrasse_Tyson ? 08:44 < Pharos> who is this Fyre person, and why are they invading my beloved city? 08:45 < Fyre> I'm a Wikipedian on a business trip. 08:45 < TheDruId> Because TSA hasn't impeded http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement 08:45 < NorthFace> FYRE 08:45 < Fyre> montreal canada to NYC 08:45 < Pharos> what's your username? 08:46 < Fyre> why 08:46 < Pharos> because i want to know if you are awesome 08:46 < TheDruId> Every Wikipedian is awesome. 08:47 < NorthFace> Yes 08:47 < NorthFace> Like me 08:47 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@cbs2-cdif3-0-0-cust29.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:47 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@cbs2-cdif3-0-0-cust29.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 08:47 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@wikipedia/Basalisk] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:47 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:48 * NorthFace cries 08:48 * Theo10011 offers NorthFace a tissue 08:48 < NorthFace> No 08:48 < Fyre> Phil13 08:49 -!- Ks0stm [~Ks0stm@wikipedia/Ks0stm] has quit [Ping timeout: 261 seconds] 08:49 < NorthFace> :( 08:49 * NorthFace eats her shoes 08:49 < Pharos> also, if your *are* awesome I'd like to say hi while you're in the city 08:49 * NorthFace sees Caterpillar 08:49 < Fyre> Pharos: take a coffee? 08:49 < mareklug> NorthFace you should change your nick to TheSouthButt 08:50 < NorthFace> No 08:50 < NorthFace> Shut marek club 08:50 < NorthFace> :( 08:50 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_South_Butt 08:50 < Pharos> something like that, tho i'm not much of a coffee person 08:50 * TheDruId laughs. 08:50 < Fyre> Pharos: a donut at Tim Hortons? 08:50 < Pharos> sounds exotic 08:50 < mareklug> Fyre invite him to a local Wendy's 08:51 * NorthFace was in dentist 08:51 * NorthFace cries 08:51 -!- BasaliskWP [~BasaliskW@wikipedia/Basalisk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:52 < Fyre> Pharos: what do you think of the new bike rental system that's about to be in NYC? 08:52 < Pharos> I like it, but I probably won't use it much personally 08:53 < TheDruId> Hope it makes for a healthier populace, and less traffic. 08:53 < mareklug> Fyre Pharos already has a stolen bicycle, like everyone else in the borrough 08:53 < Philon> !admin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bla12345678910111213 can someone block this user 08:54 < QueenOfFrance> what for 08:54 < legoktm> hai 08:54 < Philon> ughh what is AIV for? 08:54 < Philon> vandalism of course 08:54 < Pharos> my bicycle was stolen a couple times as a kid, that's more or less the only crime that has ever strick me 08:54 < zuzak> already done 08:54 * legoktm glares at RD 08:54 < Fyre> I use BIXI in Montréal often. 08:54 < Pharos> Fyre: Do you know the Montreal Wikipedian community? 08:55 < Philon> why does that happen? it takes a lot of time when I report to AIV and when I take it here someone have already blocked it 08:55 < mareklug> Pharos I had two bicycles, both Motobecane Super Mirage. The red one was stolen while I was watching it in the park. 08:55 < Fyre> Pharos: yes. 08:55 * NorthFace :| 08:55 -!- Denny_WMDE1 [~Adium@p5DDC5AA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:55 < Fyre> Pharos: i'll tell you a good tip to use with those bikes :) 08:55 < Fyre> it's not a scam per se 08:56 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: wctaiwan] 08:56 -!- mindspillage [~kat@64-79-125-70.static.wiline.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:56 -!- mindspillage [~kat@64-79-125-70.static.wiline.com] has quit [Changing host] 08:56 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:56 -!- anona [~z31fcs@99-90-197-87.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:57 < Fyre> let's say you use your credit card, you borrow a bike 08:57 < Fyre> the usual free time is 30 minutes 08:57 < Fyre> Just borrow it for 25 minutes , find another docking station, dock it, wait 3-4 minutes, insert the same card again, no charge, enjoy 25 minutes free 08:58 < legoktm> Philon: happens to all of us ;) 08:58 < Pharos> the local public radio station recently had a crosstown bike-taxi-subway race 08:58 < Pharos> to test out the new bike rentals 08:58 < Philon> legoktm: xD 08:58 < Fyre> and 09:01 -!- Jayflux [~jay_knows@unaffiliated/jayflux] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:07 -!- KAPOOYA [uid11795@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mbkhznpkgzslwysn] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:08 < Philon> legoktm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Auzzieowen how about now? 09:08 -!- KAPOOYA is now known as HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYA 09:10 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:10 < legoktm> um 09:10 < Philon> legoktm: yeah? 09:11 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:11 < legoktm> there was no need for a 4im there 09:11 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:12 < Philon> legoktm: how about this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=557368330&oldid=557368133 09:12 < Philon> !admin seriously? is no one going to do it 09:13 < legoktm> right, they werent warned even once. but 4im is used for like super severe vandalism. it just comes off bite-y imo 09:13 -!- jzatopa [~angelsHEP@72.54.215.78] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:13 -!- gry [~gry@freenode/staff/gry] has quit [Quit: gry__] 09:13 -!- Maeby [uid11794@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lkkgvvkkrxbtizua] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:13 < Shirik> agreed 09:14 -!- jzatopa [~angelsHEP@72.54.215.78] has quit [Client Quit] 09:15 < Philon> legoktm: does that mean you are not going to block them 09:16 < legoktm> i will if they keep vandalizing 09:16 < Philon> ok 09:17 < Philon> legoktm: there is a sockpuppet vandal; he isn't editing & username is also a violation; will you block him? 09:17 < Philon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bla1234567891011121314151617181920 09:17 < legoktm> he's a sock? 09:18 < Philon> yeah; I reported the same guy with another username some bla(some other numbers) 09:18 < Philon> he got blocked 09:18 < Fyre> time to investigate socks! 09:18 * Isarra pours sauce on Pharos. 09:19 < Philon> legoktm: thanks 09:20 < Pharos> Isarra: thanks 09:20 < legoktm> np 09:20 -!- HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYA is now known as Kapooya 09:21 < Pharos> I hope it's not too sticky 09:22 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:24 -!- sdamashek|away is now known as sdamashek 09:24 -!- TParis [~TParis-PC@cpe-24-243-23-129.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 09:24 -!- TParis [~TParis-PC@wikipedia/TParis] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:24 -!- TParis [~TParis-PC@wikipedia/TParis] has left #wikipedia-en [] 09:25 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:26 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:27 < Fyre> I think User:Cancerdoc49 is in COI 09:27 -!- dirkfranke [~chatzilla@p5DDC5AA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 09:31 < TheDruId> Now Pharos is saucy. 09:32 -!- Philon [~Philon@unaffiliated/philon] has left #wikipedia-en [] 09:33 -!- Philon [~Philon@unaffiliated/philon] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:34 < Isarra> He's not usually saucy? 09:34 < Pharos> yeah, i'd like to think that Isarra was just replenishing my usual supply 09:35 < GorillaWarfare> Heh 09:36 -!- Hahc21|Busy [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:37 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:37 < Isarra> It's like how it works in videogames. Someone's thirsty? Pour a bucket of water on them! 09:38 < GorillaWarfare> Isarra: That's not how it works in real life? :< 09:40 < Pharos> I've tried it it's about 15% effective as a method of hydration 09:40 < Pharos> if you have cooperation from tbe subject 09:42 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:42 -!- juankor21 [~canaima@200.11.216.228] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:43 -!- juankor21 [~canaima@200.11.216.228] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:43 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:47 < legoktm> GorillaWarfare: Have you tried? ;) 09:47 < GorillaWarfare> >.> 09:47 < GorillaWarfare> <.< 09:48 -!- LAmpersandEnRose [uid7952@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzqeilillqogxwvw] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:49 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:49 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:57 < Isarra> Let's try some more. 09:57 < Isarra> Never mind original research. 10:00 -!- jonathan` [~farnhamj@149.255.99.95] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 10:05 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:06 -!- carniePOI [~prestoPKC@12.231.36.2] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:06 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:10 -!- carniePOI [~prestoPKC@12.231.36.2] has left #wikipedia-en [] 10:11 -!- josue [~canaima@186.94.9.191] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:11 < josue> a 10:11 -!- josue [~canaima@186.94.9.191] has left #wikipedia-en [] 10:12 -!- josue [~canaima@186.94.9.191] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:12 < josue> hola 10:12 -!- josue [~canaima@186.94.9.191] has left #wikipedia-en [] 10:13 < Theo10011> Yes, hello 10:13 < NorthFace> Hi Theo10011 :) 10:14 < CrackyWacky> Controversial Canadian doctor Henry Morgentaler is dead. 10:14 < Theo10011> lol 10:14 < NorthFace> Lol 10:14 * NorthFace brings the h 10:15 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:15 < NorthFace> Lol 10:15 -!- Philon [~Philon@unaffiliated/philon] has left #wikipedia-en [] 10:15 -!- NorthFace is now known as Carly-- 10:25 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:25 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@wikimedia/Chenzw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:27 -!- darev [~darev@p54AA822C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:27 < darev> Hello1 10:28 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:28 < Carly--> Hey darev :) 10:28 < darev> hi, Carly-- :) 10:29 < TheDruId> o/ 10:29 < Carly--> :D 10:29 -!- lbenedix [~lbenedix@g226059076.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:29 < Bradford> ._. 10:29 * Carly-- brings cookies 10:30 < darev> oh, wonderful idea :) 10:30 < darev> thank you 10:30 < Carly--> :) 10:31 < Carly--> I am looking up http://www.adidas.cl/originals 10:31 < Carly--> Is cool 10:31 < Carly--> Xd 10:33 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 10:35 -!- Carly-- [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:37 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:38 < Bradford> Jetro: :D 10:38 -!- MBisanz [MBisanz@cpe-204-210-137-189.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:38 -!- MBisanz [MBisanz@cpe-204-210-137-189.hvc.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 10:38 -!- MBisanz [MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:38 < Jetro> Bradford :DDDDDDDD 10:38 < Bradford> :) 10:38 < Bradford> Jetro: Hi, how are you ? :DDDDDDD 10:39 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: wctaiwan] 10:39 -!- Monitos [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:40 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:41 -!- Chat3430 [~Chat3430@69.41.182.140] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:41 -!- Chat3430 [~Chat3430@69.41.182.140] has quit [Client Quit] 10:42 -!- Monitos is now known as Carly-- 10:43 -!- Prodego [~Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:48 -!- lbenedix1 [~lbenedix@g225189218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:48 < Carly--> Mareklug te pondre un /ignore 10:49 < Bradford> :o 10:49 < dtm> wat 10:49 < Bradford> whet 10:50 < Bradford> dtm: :-* 10:50 < Carly--> Lol 10:50 < Carly--> :-* dtm 10:50 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:50 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:51 < Bradford> :--* 10:51 -!- lbenedix [~lbenedix@g226059076.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:51 < Theo10011> long nose. 10:52 < Carly--> ®_® 10:52 < Fluffernutter> Carly--, Bradford, you know what we've told you about using this channel for your personal entertainment 10:52 < Bradford> ok 10:53 < Carly--> Only us¿ 10:53 < Carly--> :| that's not so fair 10:53 < Bradford> Fluffernutter: +q Bradford 10:53 < Bradford> yes 10:53 < Bradford> pleases 10:53 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:54 < dtm> mareklug: so you can do Appletalk but not TCP/IP, on your asante IIci? 10:55 < dtm> mareklug: also i have a broken Wallstreet II 233 MHz just like what you got. i maxed out my credit card for it when it was new. and a broken 400 MHz Pismo 10:55 -!- Dragonfly6-7 [~test@67.68.78.40] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:55 < Dragonfly6-7> who here finds it emotionally fulfilling to write articles from scratch? 10:55 < dtm> Dragonfly6-7: me. 10:55 < Carly--> Fluffernutter If you complain so much +q 10:55 < dtm> i've done three, and almost a few more 10:56 < Dragonfly6-7> I wrote one yesterday, and one this morning 10:56 < Dragonfly6-7> and it's just.. research is *fun*, you know? 10:56 < dtm> mareklug: is the lifetime warranty transferrable?!!?! 10:58 < TheDruId> Dragonfly6-7, when I'm in that mode, yes. 10:59 -!- MBisanz [MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [] 10:59 < Fluffernutter> researching is fun, writing is fun. The step where I compile and organize the research into something that resembles a coherent whole to write about, however, is painful 11:00 -!- mongaj [~gloomyZRT@ip68-103-43-35.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:00 -!- mongaj [~gloomyZRT@ip68-103-43-35.ks.ok.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:01 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:04 < Dragonfly6-7> that's probably why most of my articles are rather short 11:05 < Dragonfly6-7> easier to keep 'em coherent that way 11:05 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:05 -!- Carly-- [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has quit [Quit: Carly--] 11:06 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:06 -!- Shearonink [4464f101@wikipedia/Shearonink] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:07 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Quit: Quit: Bradford] 11:10 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-21.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:10 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-21.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:10 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:15 -!- darev [~darev@p54AA822C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:15 < Isarra> Why can't admins deop themselves? Why do they have to go request it at all? 11:16 < IDoH> Isarra: So they don't do it impulsively, I assume. 11:16 < Sarcasm> are you talking about IRC or wikipedia? 11:16 < Isarra> Wikipedia. 11:16 < Isarra> And can one not impulsively request it as well? 11:17 < Prodego> IMO you should not be able to request it back if you ask it be removed 11:17 < IDoH> True that. Perhaps institute a 24 hour waiting period. 11:17 < Theo10011> heh deop 11:17 < Theo10011> Well, stewards need to do something.... 11:17 < Theo10011> burecrats I mean. 11:19 -!- Monitos [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:19 -!- darev [~darev@p54AA822C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:20 < BlastHardcheese> because it was originally a software limitation in mediawiki 11:20 < Prodego> not really 11:21 -!- Monitos is now known as Carly-- 11:22 < BlastHardcheese> yes really 11:23 < Prodego> Eh, there has been an extention to do it for a very long time 11:23 < Prodego> if they had wanted to have that feature in mediawiki it wouldn't have been at all hard to add 11:23 < Prodego> it was a limitation of mediawiki because no one wanted it 11:24 -!- Carly-- [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 11:25 < BlastHardcheese> well yes, but my point was the reason it's not allowed on wikimedia projects is because it was originally not allowed by the mediawiki programmers 11:25 < BlastHardcheese> and when that limitation was removed the decision was explicitly made to retain the behavior on wikimedia projects 11:25 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has quit [Quit: GabrielF] 11:26 < Prodego> Was it ever not allowed? As far as I know no one ever blocked it from being added 11:26 < Prodego> there was just no need for it 11:26 < Prodego> if you don't want your admin rights, just don't use them 11:26 < BlastHardcheese> well it wasn't allowed in that the software, as written, was literally incapable of doing it 11:27 < BlastHardcheese> since the user levels (admin, bureaucrat, steward) were originally hardcoded 11:27 < Prodego> are you talking phase2? 11:27 < TheDruId> Prodego, it's preferred that they're removed, lest someone crack passwords. 11:27 < BlastHardcheese> it might have originated in phase2, but I know early mediawiki still retained that behavior 11:28 < Prodego> TheDruId: meh, that's never happened, so I'm not too worried 11:28 < BlastHardcheese> custom user groups weren't added for a while 11:28 < Prodego> Well yes, that's true, but there is no reason that it would have been difficult to add the ability for those with the admin flag to remove it 11:31 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@46-64-89-33.zone15.bethere.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:31 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@46-64-89-33.zone15.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Changing host] 11:31 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:31 < BlastHardcheese> I never said it was particularly difficult, just that it wasn't done. I was discussing the origin of the practice. 11:32 < BlastHardcheese> Also to be contrarian, how do you know no one's ever cracked an admin account? Any smart attacker wouldn't go around telling everyone about it. 11:32 < Prodego> I'm just saying that it isn't because of any technical restriction that it wasn't possible, it wasn't possible because there was never consensus for such a thing 11:32 < Prodego> actually I believe someone once did get in to an admin account 11:33 < Prodego> but they may have been given the password rather than breaking it 11:33 < Prodego> which is probably more likely 11:33 < BlastHardcheese> If I wanted to be evil and was able to crack an admin account I'd use it to dredge through deleted pages and give all the juicy stuff to the press to create a big scandal 11:33 < Prodego> there is no juicy stuff though 11:33 < BlastHardcheese> is there really 11:33 < Prodego> it is all 100% boring 11:34 < Prodego> pick a deleted page 11:34 < Prodego> any page 11:34 < BlastHardcheese> also subtly inject malicious code into mediawiki namespace pages, though that would be a more difficult task 11:35 < Prodego> yes, that's the way to do it 11:35 -!- kondi [~kondi@wikimedia/kondicherry] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:35 < Prodego> they will remove that ability some day 11:36 -!- Guest75122 [~sinner@182.179.75.238] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:38 -!- martijnHH [martijnHH@wikipedia/Martijn-Hoekstra] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:38 -!- Guest75122 [~sinner@182.179.75.238] has left #wikipedia-en [] 11:38 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:39 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@97e3535c.skybroadband.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:39 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@97e3535c.skybroadband.com] has quit [Changing host] 11:39 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@wikimedia/John-F-Lewis] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:39 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:39 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 11:39 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:41 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:42 < mareklug> dtm complete success: a) both Asante cards are up and running; currently using the Fast one (100T Ethernet). It flies! b) Photoshop launches without any problems, c) instlalling PageMaker 6.05 (after I found the license number on install diskette nr 2). And of course, RAM maxed out at 128 Meg. :) :) Next phase: debugging the other IIci. And my Powerbooks ARE NOT BROKEN. All Appletalk over Ethernet is working -- all systems see each 11:42 < mareklug> other and can mount each other's disks. Plus I have ftp connecting all the machines, including Mac OS X 10.8.3. So… lots done in a few hours. 11:42 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:45 -!- Revent [ad15dd3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-eraajnvxcsjbwpfy] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:47 < Revent> *hrms* What's the 'policy' for when you notice someone who's habitually using AWB to create useless pages to buff their edit count? 11:47 < TheDruId> ? 11:47 < IDoH> Revent: Editcountitis 11:47 < Dragonfly6-7> Revent - who? 11:48 < Revent> This particular person brags on their User page of having over a million edits....I've counted several thousand that were creating 'empty' Talk pages for templates just to put Wikiproject Banners on this (wich is broken use of the banner, and spams unassessed cleanup categories. 11:48 < BlastHardcheese> well you could start by talking to the person maybe 11:49 < TheDruId> Revent, If I understand you correctly, I may disagree. 11:50 * Fluffernutter only knows of two people who have over a million edits, and both of them are heavy AWB users. however, using AWB, even for cosmetic-type changes, isn't always useless or valueless 11:51 < Revent> TheDruld: it's against talk page guidelines to 'create an empty talk page just for future use', and it's counter to the 'docs' for WikiBannerMeta to put them on anything other than article talk pages.... 11:52 < Revent> Also, a series of edits like 'add a desc to a category page', 'nominate category for deletion', 'create empty talk page for the category you just nominated for deletion' is pointless... 11:53 < Revent> Especially when you use AWB to do it LITERALLY thousands of times... 11:53 < Dragonfly6-7> so tell him this on his talkpage 11:54 < BlastHardcheese> but how will that get someone to block him 11:54 < Fluffernutter> ...why woul dyou need someone to be blocked just because they make a lot of edits? 11:54 < Shearonink> This thread would be so much more useful with links... 11:55 < Dragonfly6-7> What thread? 11:55 < Shearonink> this million-edits editor...like links to a name 11:55 < Shearonink> this discussion then 11:56 < Dragonfly6-7> Koavf 11:56 < Shearonink> I've never used AWB - maybe i'm missing something 11:57 < Dragonfly6-7> [[The OC wall calendar]] uh. Thoughts? 11:57 < martijnHH> BlastHardcheese: why do you think that should lead to a block? 11:59 < Shearonink> Dragonfly6-7: non-notable at first glance 11:59 -!- Kingpin13 [~Kingpin13@Wikipedia/Kingpin13] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:00 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@87-93-74-250.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:00 < Shearonink> and non-notable at second glance 12:00 < Shearonink> Not every homoerotic calendar is notable. 12:01 < BlastHardcheese> martijnHH: I was being facetious 12:01 < martijnHH> BlastHardcheese: ah, carry on then 12:01 < martijnHH> ;) 12:02 < Revent> (sighs) I didn't come in here asking about getting him blocked, people.... 12:03 < TheDruId> Revent, I misunderstood, thought you meant the templates on the talk pages, not the template talk pages. All's well. 12:04 < TheDruId> ...and I gotta go, despite a sudden shower, I have to pick up my niece... 12:04 -!- TheDruId [4aeff6fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.239.246.250] has left #wikipedia-en [] 12:04 < Revent> Naah, it's stuff like.....'add a description to a category page'...'nominate page for deletion'...'create talk page for the category you just nomiated for deletion'.....THOUSANDS of times... 12:06 < Revent> He apparently thinks it's his personal mission to create an empty (pointless) talk page for every redirect on wikipedia. 12:06 < Dragonfly6-7> that's legitimate 12:07 < Shearonink> Revent: Doesn't seem to be any specific policy they've breached with their behavior... WP:Editcountitis and WP:Editcount are both opinion pieces, not guidelines or policies. I suppose you would have to open an RFC on the matter... 12:07 < Shearonink> and what Dragonfly6-7 just said 12:08 -!- dungodung|away is now known as dungodung 12:08 < Revent> Right....homestly, the only way he's violated 'rules' instead of 'guidelines' that I'm aware of is 'using Twinkle to revert good-faith edits with an edit summary of "Why"...' 12:09 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:09 < Revent> (the TW docs specifically say don't pull tht kind of crap) 12:11 < Shearonink> well, he's basically filling up the servers with empty pages that are useless 12:11 -!- Carly-- [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:12 < Revent> Personally, the ony reason I care is because he's also spamming the hell out of the 'unassessed article' categories. 12:12 < Dragonfly6-7> deleting them doesn't make them disappear, though. It just shunts them to the "deleted" subdirectory. 12:12 < Shearonink> If there isn't a policy or guideline about this behavior the only thing I can think of is to open an RFC about the behavior 12:12 < Dragonfly6-7> (which can't be accessed by non-admins) 12:13 < Shearonink> well, maybe if an admin had to revdelete them (or whatever) to wipe them off the servers completely then maybe it might be seen as something serious 12:13 < Fluffernutter> there's something to be said for asking someone that prolific to get a bot flag, to cut down on watchlist/recent changes spam 12:14 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:14 < Shearonink> I hear all the time about how WP's servers are creaking along and how we don;t have enough resources...if this type of behavior is eating up scarce resources, then it becomes important 12:14 < Shearonink> and what Fluffernutter just said 12:14 < Revent> *nods* FWIW, I've specifically been told by an admin that it's a cleaner solution to 'redirect' talk pages for redirects (he's made tons of those) than try to G8 delete them, and him using Twinkle to revert me to defend 'his' pointless redirect is really irritating. 12:15 < Revent> (I'm not 'stalking' him or anything, I'm trying to clean up backlogged error tracking categories) 12:15 -!- Shearonink is now known as Shearonink_gone 12:15 -!- Shearonink_gone is now known as Shearonink_afk 12:15 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:15 < kondi> zz_YuviPanda: ping 12:16 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:18 < Revent> Just to make the point, a quote from his talk page...."Thanks for flooding my talk page with fifty image deletion notices - I think ONE message probably could have done the trick. Likewise, when you flood my talk page you also flood my email with stupid alerts from Wikipedia telling EACH TIME you do it." 12:18 * Fyre is near Glens Falls! 12:19 < martijnHH> Revent: I found it's best to avoid that kind of passive agressive tone 12:19 < Revent> *nods* Point being he's irritated quite a few people with the same type of things... 12:19 < martijnHH> it you are annoyed, tell him you found that annoying, and ask him to change his behaviour rather than just express your annoyance 12:19 -!- niko is now known as nik0 12:19 < Revent> *did* 12:20 < martijnHH> (note how telling people you find some action they did annoying works far better then telling them they are being annoying: address the behaviour, not the person) 12:21 < Revent> Actually, most of my response was specifically addressing his question of 'why' in his revert....though I did specifically point out how he causes problems.... 12:22 < Revent> My 'annoyance' is mostly with the 'abuse' of anti-vandalism tools to revert good faith edits... 12:23 < martijnHH> well, from your talk here I gather you find it at least somewhat annoying he is doing other things too. 12:23 < Revent> (and yes, that is specifically describes as 'abuse' in the docs for those tools) 12:23 < Fyre> train just stopped in Glens Falls 12:24 < martijnHH> I don't care what the docs specifically say 12:24 < martijnHH> it's just words on a webpage 12:24 -!- KTC_ [~KTC@wikipedia/KTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:24 < Revent> Using Twinkle like that is being needlessly offensive (as it implies the other editor is a vandal). 12:25 < martijnHH> yes. And it is wrong. And it's fine to note that, and tell him that 12:25 < martijnHH> but bringing in some rules on some page 12:25 * martijnHH shrugs 12:26 < Revent> *chuckles* More a matter of 'and here's where it's pointed out' than being a wikilawyer, at least as I intended it. 12:26 -!- Lnmow [~Miranda@unaffiliated/lnmow] has quit [Quit: Soupir] 12:27 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has quit [Quit: heatherw] 12:27 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has quit [Quit: GabrielF] 12:28 < Revent> *notes that he has /repeatedly/ been blocked for 3RR, and with block reasons such as "Please slow down with AWB. Get a bot if you want to edit that fast. Consider this a warning block." yet is still a rollbacker. 12:29 < martijnHH> hrm, I do want to look at that 12:29 < martijnHH> linky? 12:29 < Revent> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&action=view&type=block&page=User:Koavf 12:30 < martijnHH> 2010 last block 12:30 -!- GorillaWarfare [6c14245e@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:30 < martijnHH> before that 2008 12:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> two gay men married in notre dame, obama unhurt 12:30 < Revent> Ye, it's an 'old' history....he's learned to avoid the block but it still doing the 'mass edits' he got in trouble for... 12:30 -!- George-Carlin [55d2bd48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.210.189.72] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:30 < Fyre> and the train just moved again 12:30 < Revent> *blocks* 12:30 < George-Carlin> Shit Piss Fuck Cunt Cocksucker Motherfucker Tits 12:31 < Fluffernutter> that's nice, dear 12:31 < Fyre> next stop is in Saratoga Springs. 12:31 < Fyre> *bleep* *bleep* *bleep* *bleep* *bleep* *bleep* *bleep* *bleep* 12:31 < Revent> He's just spamming his edit count in a different way in 'unwatched' namespaces.... 12:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> George-Carlin why so juvinile? 12:32 < IDoH> ToAruShiroiNeko: Cus he wants attention, that's why 12:32 < George-Carlin> ToAruShiroiNeko: Those are the seven forbidden words I invented. 12:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not really 12:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> forbidden words are not to be uttered 12:32 -!- Kingpin13 [~Kingpin13@Wikipedia/Kingpin13] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:34 < George-Carlin> Shit Piss Fuck Cunt Cocksucker Motherfucker Tits 12:35 < Revent> Editing (just counted) over 25 pages in less than four minutes (by someone who's been blocked for editing too fast with AWB)....*sigh* 12:35 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o Fluffernutter] by ChanServ 12:35 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o+q George-Carlin *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.210.189.72] by Fluffernutter 12:35 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o Fluffernutter] by Fluffernutter 12:35 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o Fluffernutter] by ChanServ 12:35 -!- George-Carlin [55d2bd48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.210.189.72] has left #wikipedia-en [] 12:35 -!- George-Carlin [55d2bd48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.210.189.72] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:35 < IDoH> Thanks, Fluffernutter 12:35 -!- George-Carlin [55d2bd48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.210.189.72] has left #wikipedia-en [] 12:36 -!- dfioaid020 [60392292@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.57.34.146] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :( 12:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> he was reducing the age average of the server :( 12:38 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o Fluffernutter] by ChanServ 12:38 < Revent> He doesn't need 'blocked' (he does good faith edits) but he needs AWB taken away. 12:39 -!- Mark-Potter [~Marcus@unaffiliated/markpotter] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:41 < Prodego> Revent: have you talked to him about it? 12:41 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:41 < Revent> I left him a message... 12:42 < IDoH> Prodego: People have blocked him for this. 12:42 < kondi> Where's iDM when you feel like bugging him 12:42 < Revent> But from other complaints on his talk page, and his responses, I don't expect him to listen... 12:42 < IDoH> kondi: I know, but I'm not telling. ;-) 12:43 -!- UTCL [~ubuntu@ec2-54-245-219-68.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:43 < UTCL> any CUs around? 12:43 -!- juliancolton [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:43 < kondi> IDoH: if you're referring to his physical location then I know that 12:43 < IDoH> kondi: I wasn't referring to that. 12:43 -!- guillom is now known as basile 12:44 -!- KTC_ [~KTC@wikipedia/KTC] has left #wikipedia-en ["Leaving"] 12:44 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:44 -!- mongaj [~gloomyZRT@ip68-103-43-35.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:45 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:45 -!- mongaj [~gloomyZRT@ip68-103-43-35.ks.ok.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:46 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:47 < kondi> :\ 12:47 < Moskau> UTCL: What do you need one for? 12:48 -!- iDM [b6b22c1b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.178.44.27] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:48 < iDM> Knock, knock. 12:48 < Mark-Potter> Who's there? 12:48 < iDM> Canoe. 12:48 < Mark-Potter> Canoe who? 12:48 < iDM> Canoe help me with my homework? 12:48 < Mark-Potter> HAHAHAHHAHAHA 12:48 -!- thedj_ [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:48 -!- thedj_ [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 12:48 -!- thedj_ [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:48 < Mark-Potter> lol 12:48 * Mark-Potter laughs out loud 12:49 * Mark-Potter laughs so hard he scares his donkey 12:49 * BlastHardcheese puts a sock in Mark-Potter's mouth 12:49 < iDM> Okay.... then. Where you the guy with Windows issue? 12:49 -!- Pharos_ [~chatzilla@pool-96-224-16-199.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:49 -!- _darev_ [~darev@p54AA822C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:49 -!- evilgohan2[NullR [~freenode@c-69-251-240-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:49 * Mark-Potter shoots BlastHardcheese after removing the sock 12:49 < Mark-Potter> iDM: I think that's me 12:49 < Mark-Potter> Or is it? 12:49 < kondi> iDM is here! 12:50 < iDM> How is that going for you? And what brings you here? 12:50 < BlastHardcheese> I feel bad for ya son, got 99 problems but Windows ain't one 12:50 * iDM duct tapes BlastHardcheese. 12:50 < Mark-Potter> Yeah, good one iDM 12:50 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:51 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Quit: slaporte] 12:51 < Revent> *rolls* We have an article on 'whiteness studies' 12:51 -!- Jamesofuz [~jamesur@ec2-50-112-50-28.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:51 < iDM> whitness? 12:51 < iDM> So Fix it... 12:51 -!- Jamesofuz is now known as Jamesofur 12:51 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:51 * iDM gives Jamesofur a creepy look. 12:51 < Revent> Yup....with times of refs....it's just 'funny'. 12:51 < Revent> *tons* 12:51 -!- Jamesofur is now known as Guest45484 12:52 < martijnHH> what's that template again that marks citations that don't support the referenced statement? 12:52 -!- Falcorian1 [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:52 -!- dtm_ [~dtm@v2.smuckola.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:53 < Revent> I'd just remove the cite (commenting it keeps the 'data') and {{cn}} it....explain in the edit summary. 12:53 < UTCL> so...any CUs around? 12:54 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- Jamesofur|away [~jamesur@wikimedia/Jamesofur] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- Carly-- [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- darev [~darev@p54AA822C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-96-224-16-199.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- evilgohan2 [~freenode@c-69-251-240-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- muahaha|afk [uid10984@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gsudaajkxujaffmo] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- dtm [~dtm@v2.smuckola.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54 -!- Pharos_ is now known as Pharos 12:54 -!- _darev_ is now known as darev 12:54 * iDM hugs Pharos 12:55 < Revent> *errs after digging* {{citation broken}} is specific to that, tho... 12:55 -!- muahaha [uid10984@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gzarovtcgoeuvthi] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:55 -!- Fluffernutter [Fluffernut@wikipedia/Fluffernutter] has quit [Quit: hometime] 12:56 < iDM> Revent: I think thats what he meant 12:56 < Revent> *maybe* 12:56 -!- Mark-Potter [~Marcus@unaffiliated/markpotter] has left #wikipedia-en ["Leaving"] 12:57 < martijnHH> I think there is a better one, but this suffices 12:57 < Fyre> now the train is enroute to Schenectady, NY! 12:57 < JohnLewis> martijnHH: I think it is {{Failed verification}} 12:58 < martijnHH> yes, that's the one 12:58 < JohnLewis> :) 12:58 < martijnHH> thanks JohnLewis 12:58 < JohnLewis> Welcome 12:58 < martijnHH> your nick is a proverbial bitch to autocomplete :/ 12:58 < Revent> Nice find....that's 'well hidden'. :) 12:59 < JohnLewis> martijnHH: I trained mine to auto complete to that after typing Joh :P 12:59 < JohnLewis> I don't know how though :/ 13:00 < Revent> (it's a client thing) 13:01 < Sarcasm> Is it bad form to nominate something for GAN when you know it's not ready, but expect to have a good amount of time to improve it before a review rolls around? 13:02 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:02 < Sarcasm> ie. preemptively nominate it so it's higher up in the queue while you continue to improve it 13:02 -!- Carly-- [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:03 -!- dfioaid020 [60392292@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.57.34.146] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:03 < JohnLewis> Sarcasm: There is no queue. 13:03 < JohnLewis> Within one day of you submitting, it can be revieiwed or you may have to wait a month or three. 13:04 < Sarcasm> Indeed. It seems closer to a few months to me. 13:04 < Sarcasm> Not to mention I've seen some nominations with {{cn}}s 13:04 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:04 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:04 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:05 -!- James_F|Away is now known as James_F 13:07 -!- tttb [~tom@host-89-241-115-48.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:08 < Fyre> now the train is enroute to Schenectady, NY! 13:08 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:08 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:09 -!- Fox2k12 [~yogi@wikipedia/fox2k11] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09 < iDM> Well good night people 13:09 < Fyre> good night :) 13:09 < Carly--> Night :) 13:09 < Fyre> need a kiss? 13:09 -!- iDM is now known as iDangerMouse 13:10 < Carly--> O.O 13:10 * Carly-- faints 13:10 < iDangerMouse> Fyre: um let me think about it. 13:10 < Fyre> how bout never :) 13:10 < Revent> *lols* When every single one of an author's books has a seven-digit publisher in the ISBN, that's kinda evidence of not being notable in a way... 13:10 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 13:11 < iDangerMouse> Fyre: How about giving me 120 CAD instead. 13:11 < Revent> (a seven digit ISBN is a publisher who's expeced to produce less than 10 books by the ISBN peeps) 13:11 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:11 < Fyre> iDangerMouse: nah, would you like 40 bitcoins instead? 13:11 < Revent> *er publisher code( 13:11 < iDangerMouse> Fyre: I'd buy Revent a book then why not. 13:11 < Fyre> sure , let me do it, gimme your bitcoin address but then 13:12 < Fyre> i took a arrow to the knee 13:12 < iDangerMouse> No. 13:12 < Dragonfly6-7> Fyre - did you read the explanation of how much it costs to mine a bitcoin? 13:12 < Fyre> Dragonfly6-7: already had. 13:12 < iDangerMouse> Hello Dragonfly6-7, but bad timing :( 13:12 < Fyre> no need to be anal about it 13:13 < Dragonfly6-7> An April 2013 estimate[102] showed that the amount of energy being used every day to mine bitcoins was equivalent to the amount capable of powering about 31,000 American homes. This was estimated to be about USD $147,000 worth of energy. In comparison, profits made from a day's worth of bitcoin mining were given at about $681,000. 13:13 -!- ragesoss [~quassel@wikimedia/ragesoss] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:13 < Fyre> Like i said, no need to be anal about it 13:14 < Prodego> of course those 'profits' are somewhat artificial 13:14 -!- ragesoss [~quassel@wikimedia/ragesoss] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:15 -!- Jeff_G_away [Jeff_G_awa@wikipedia/Jeff-G.] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:15 < Fyre> hmm 13:15 < Fyre> we're 20 minutes early 13:15 < iDangerMouse> Well, time to go. Laters. 13:15 -!- thedj_ [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has quit [Ping timeout: 262 seconds] 13:16 -!- Jeff_G_away is now known as Jeff_G 13:16 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:16 -!- iDangerMouse [b6b22c1b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.178.44.27] has left #wikipedia-en [] 13:17 < Revent> Second opinion.....when I'm fixing ISBNs and come acress a book that was actually /printed/ with a bad ISBN, I'm taking it out of the actual 'cite' and adding a mention as a <small> note at the end of the ref with a <nowiki> wrapped mention of it (to avoid errors)... 13:17 < Revent> There's no 'guidance'....that sound reasonable? 13:18 < Revent> (the bad ISBNs are 'googleable' but they won't work in booksources, etc) 13:19 -!- Rio_Dj_Narrow [~Rio@h173.209.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:20 < Revent> Mostly a 'raise your hand if you'd be annoyed if I did it that way to /your/ article'. :) 13:22 -!- Rio_Dj_Narrow [~Rio@h173.209.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 13:23 -!- ragesoss [~quassel@wikimedia/ragesoss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25 -!- Fox2k12 [~yogi@wikipedia/fox2k11] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:26 -!- speredenn [~speredenn@2001:788:dead:beef:c437:e9c4:aa87:173a] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:28 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:28 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 13:28 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:31 -!- Theo10011 [~Theo10011@wikimedia/Theo10011] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:32 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:32 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has quit [Changing host] 13:32 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:36 -!- KTC [~KTC@wikipedia/KTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:37 < a930913> Need an acronym for a web based antivandal tool. Currently trying to make WAVE - Web AntiVandal E?? 13:37 < Revent> *would like, at some point, to make an 'SBN/ISBN-10 fixer bot'...scary, tho....talking probably the better part of a million edits... 13:38 < foks> a930913, Engine? 13:39 < martijnHH> YAAVT? 13:39 -!- carniePOI [~prestoPKC@12.231.36.2] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:40 < Revent> Program Intended to Stop Stupidity - Offerred For Free :P 13:40 < Revent> i.o.w. "PISS-OFF" 13:41 < Revent> (is totally kidding) 13:41 < a930913> foks: Works for me :) Ta. 13:41 < foks> \o/ 13:41 < carniePOI> huh? 13:42 < kondi> I like the one Revent suggested. 13:42 < carniePOI> he needs a bag? 13:42 < Revent> *snickers* Naah, fixed that last night. :P 13:42 < carniePOI> LOL 13:43 < carniePOI> where did you put him? 13:43 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:43 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:43 -!- KTC [~KTC@wikipedia/KTC] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:43 < carniePOI> Ft. Dick 13:43 < Revent> *lol* Naah, the other kind. To quote Walter (from Fringe) "I have a prescription." :P 13:44 < carniePOI> in five different places you say? 13:44 -!- David_Stevenson [~David@wikimedia/Moe-Epsilon] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:44 < carniePOI> where's his belly? 13:44 -!- Betacommand [~Betacomma@unaffiliated/betacommand] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:45 -!- KTC [~KTC@wikipedia/KTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:45 < carniePOI> did it get poked by mister splinters? 13:45 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@216.38.130.161] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:45 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@216.38.130.161] has quit [Changing host] 13:45 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:45 < Revent> Ok, you lost me totally now... :/ 13:45 < Bradford> O_O 13:45 < carniePOI> I hope it got poked by mister splinters... 13:46 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Quit: slaporte] 13:47 < carniePOI> let's just say that mister splinters is an old-fashioned broom handle 13:47 -!- Carly-- is now known as Cay 13:47 -!- Cay is now known as Carly 13:47 < carniePOI> huh? 13:47 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:47 < carniePOI> what? 13:47 -!- Carly is now known as Guest9867 13:47 < Revent> Oh, lol... 13:48 -!- sdamashek is now known as sdamashek|diner 13:48 -!- sdamashek|diner is now known as sdamashek|dinner 13:48 -!- YE|AFK is now known as YE 13:48 < carniePOI> mister splinters is reversable. all his bristles fell out and so now he wears a metal helmet. 13:49 < Revent> Can I ask one of you more 'content type' peeps for a favor? Ugly table formatting in a article I ran across, prob easy to 'fix' but not my thing... 13:49 < carniePOI> I like to plug that end into a curling-iron for extra kicks 13:49 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:49 < Revent> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_and_Portuguese_Jews#Communities.2C_past_and_present 13:49 < Revent> If someone wants to mess with it....needs 'headers' inside the table instead of...what, 20+ sections... 13:49 < carniePOI> tables you say? the kind you fall off of but your feet never touch the ground? 13:50 -!- Guest9867 [~androirc@201.220.233.203] has quit [Quit: Guest9867] 13:50 < carniePOI> huh? 13:50 < Revent> You'd get it if you loked at it. 13:50 < Revent> *looked* 13:50 -!- KTC [~KTC@wikipedia/KTC] has left #wikipedia-en ["Leaving"] 13:50 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has quit [Quit: heatherw] 13:50 < carniePOI> let's all get cremated you say? 13:51 < Revent> I just don't know without digging into the docs how to do it....never screw with tables. 13:51 < carniePOI> oh, clean the kitchen you say? 13:51 < carniePOI> scrubs and dubs... 13:53 -!- tttb [~tom@host-89-241-115-48.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Fare thee well] 13:53 -!- Bradford is now known as Butters 13:53 < carniePOI> LOL... 13:53 -!- niza [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:53 < carniePOI> wheezes... 13:53 < Butters> ._. 13:54 < carniePOI> where's my microphone? 13:54 -!- jakr [~jake@pool-108-18-214-75.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:54 -!- jakr [~jake@pool-108-18-214-75.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:54 -!- jakr [~jake@unaffiliated/jakr] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:54 < niza> Lol 13:55 < carniePOI> what about "ride the bike" ? got one of those? 13:55 -!- niza is now known as carly 13:56 < carniePOI> mister splinters thinks he's a seat 13:57 -!- JZTech101 [~jztech101@c-24-0-88-174.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:57 < carniePOI> green lines beware! 13:58 < carly> ... 13:58 < carniePOI> c-4? 13:59 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:59 < carly> carniePOI what happen 13:59 < carniePOI> shine on 13:59 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has quit [Quit: Buh-bye] 14:00 < carniePOI> huh? whatzit? back-talkin'? 14:01 < carniePOI> show off my keys you want? is that it? 14:02 < carly> ._. 14:02 < carniePOI> my engine-block will surely melt...and...uh...em... 14:03 < carniePOI> so will everyone elses... 14:03 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:03 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has quit [Changing host] 14:03 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:03 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:04 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:05 < carniePOI> what, you mean it gets very hot outside? 14:05 < carniePOI> but why? 14:06 -!- carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06 < carniePOI> can you number the stars? 14:06 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:06 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:06 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has quit [Changing host] 14:06 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:07 < carniePOI> I see a cloud of many stars, burning...or, well...at least its possible 14:08 < carniePOI> heavy metal 14:08 < carniePOI> headed from...east to west 14:09 < carniePOI> er, em...far west to far east 14:09 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:09 < carniePOI> east of cali 14:09 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:09 -!- Sonja [~nerdulon@24.52.206.81] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:09 < carniePOI> west of ft. knox 14:10 < Sonja> any admins in the house? 14:10 < carniePOI> huh? 14:10 < carniePOI> I can move him if you want... 14:10 < Sonja> !admin <request> 14:11 < Writ_Keeper> uh? 14:11 < Guerillero> sup 14:11 < JohnLewis> Sonja: By <request> it means your actual request. 14:11 < Sonja> :P 14:11 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:11 -!- JustBerry [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/justberry] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:11 < carniePOI> head-tilts? 14:11 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:11 < carniePOI> guitar-stringin' you say? 14:12 -!- KTC_ [~KTC@wikipedia/KTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:12 < carniePOI> how many? 14:12 < carniePOI> (evil grin: all of them) 14:12 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has quit [Quit: While there's life, there's hope.] 14:13 < carniePOI> huh? 14:13 -!- KTC_ is now known as KTC 14:13 < carniePOI> popeyes! 14:14 < carniePOI> the day is long......... 14:14 < foks> what on god's green earth are you chatting about 14:15 < Carly> Lol 14:15 < carniePOI> huh? whatzit?!?!?! (fell off his chair) 14:15 -!- sdamashek|dinner is now known as sdamashek 14:15 < Carly> I see you're talking to yourself 14:15 < carniePOI> (don't worry, my feet landed on the ground) 14:16 < carniePOI> they were slackin'... 14:16 < carniePOI> the should have broken my fingers... 14:16 < carniePOI> lol 14:16 < Carly> Ah? 14:16 -!- KTC [~KTC@wikipedia/KTC] has left #wikipedia-en ["Leaving"] 14:17 < carniePOI> *they* 14:17 < carniePOI> the evil ones... 14:17 < carniePOI> 1-800-top-secret 14:18 -!- YE is now known as YE|AFK 14:19 < carniePOI> why? 14:19 -!- FunPika [~FunPika@wikipedia/FunPika] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 14:19 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19 < carniePOI> huh? 14:19 < carniePOI> whodunnit? 14:21 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:21 -!- osxdude [~osxdude@adsl-75-5-79-145.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:21 -!- osxdude [~osxdude@adsl-75-5-79-145.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:21 -!- osxdude [~osxdude@unaffiliated/osxdude] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:21 < carniePOI> computer.hal.pictures[dirty] 14:22 -!- osxdude_ [~osxdude@unaffiliated/osxdude] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:22 < carniePOI> a stand you say? 14:22 < carniePOI> where will my feet end up? 14:22 -!- Butters [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:22 -!- Butters [kvirc@181-183-90-4.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:23 < carniePOI> PETROGRAD! is that you? 14:23 < Carly> ._. 14:24 -!- D1000|Away is now known as Demiurge1000 14:24 < carniePOI> global const HELLO& 14:24 < carniePOI> 1 14:25 < carniePOI> chr_offset(000) 14:25 < carniePOI> 0 14:26 < carniePOI> somewhere in India all the automobile cpu's caught 14:26 < carniePOI> a virus 14:26 < foks> carniePOI, please stop 14:26 < carniePOI> satellite radio will do it every time 14:26 * Carly ... 14:26 -!- Deskana [~chatzilla@46-64-89-33.zone15.bethere.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:26 -!- Deskana [~chatzilla@46-64-89-33.zone15.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Changing host] 14:26 -!- Deskana [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:27 < carniePOI> buh bye boozwah 14:27 < Carly> Is someone ignoring.me? That I.cant who u are talking to lol 14:27 < Carly> carniePOI ? 14:27 < carniePOI> I can't hear you sweat pea 14:27 < Carly> O.o 14:28 < Carly> carniePOI where are you from? :) 14:28 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28 < carniePOI> I'm flabbergasted 14:29 < carniePOI> crybaby 14:30 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o QueenOfFrance] by ChanServ 14:30 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+q *!*@12.231.36.2] by QueenOfFrance 14:30 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o QueenOfFrance] by ChanServ 14:30 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31 -!- carniePOI [~prestoPKC@12.231.36.2] has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.9 sic populo comunicated] 14:31 < Butters> ._. 14:32 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:32 -!- Sonja [~nerdulon@24.52.206.81] has quit [] 14:33 < Butters> Carly: cómo guardo alguna foto de imstagram? 14:33 < Butters> para guardarla en mi pc 14:33 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o QueenOfFrance] by ChanServ 14:33 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+q *!*@181-183-90-4.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] by QueenOfFrance 14:34 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o QueenOfFrance] by ChanServ 14:34 < Carly> butters ? 14:34 < Carly> Uh 14:34 < Carly> Butters pm 14:35 -!- Butters [kvirc@181-183-90-4.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has left #wikipedia-en [] 14:35 -!- DJMalik [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:36 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:36 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@66.59.113.130] has quit [Changing host] 14:36 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:36 < darev> n8 14:36 -!- darev [~darev@p54AA822C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 14:37 -!- Moskau [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:38 -!- sdamashek is now known as sdamashek|away 14:38 < Carly> Someone know how to save an Instagram Photo? 14:39 < IDoH> On Wikipedia? 14:40 < Carly> No.I meant to download the picture 14:40 < QueenOfFrance> right click 14:40 < IDoH> No idea. 14:40 < QueenOfFrance> save picture as... 14:40 < Carly> Thanks 14:41 < Carly> Djmalik Right click (click derecho) y click on Guardar como 14:42 < Carly> QueenOfFrance it looks like not work 14:42 < DJMalik> I'm sorry , but that's no good 14:42 < Dragonfly6-7> screenshot? 14:42 < DJMalik> I get only save as web page or html 14:43 < Dragonfly6-7> try a screenshot 14:43 -!- Venusaur [~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:44 < DJMalik> :/ 14:44 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:44 < Carly> I will have to open my Instagram one sec 14:45 -!- Eric101 [60392292@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.57.34.146] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:45 < Dragonfly6-7> A screenshot is guaranteed to work. It may not give you the same resolution,. but it will work. 14:45 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@62.sub-174-252-33.myvzw.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:45 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@62.sub-174-252-33.myvzw.com] has quit [Changing host] 14:45 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:46 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:46 < Carly> Djmalik if the edited photo is yours,the copy should be saved in your phone or laptop 14:46 -!- newbie [kvirc@181-183-90-4.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:47 -!- newbie is now known as Guest16013 14:47 -!- Guest16013 [kvirc@181-183-90-4.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has left #wikipedia-en [] 14:47 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:48 -!- DJMalik [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:48 < Carly> Lol 14:49 < Bradford> Carly: http://free-instagram-downloader.softonic.com/descargar 14:49 < Bradford> is the only way to download 14:50 < Carly> I am not using a computer Bradford 14:50 < Bradford> ok 14:50 < Eric101> asperger syndrome should me moved to "autism spectrum" since it's diagnosis is eliminated. why is there still an article on the English Wikipedia? how can someone be diagnosed with Asperger syndrome if the diagnosis is eliminated? so no one can ever be diagnosed with asperger syndrome ever again. 14:51 < Carly> I have the app on my smartphone 14:51 < Carly> Bradford (Carly) Djmalik if the edited photo is yours,the copy should be saved in your phone or laptop 14:51 < Carly> Review the folder "Instagram" bradford 14:51 < BlastHardcheese> why is there still an article on smallpox, smallpox has been eliminated, no one can be diagnosed with smallpox ever again 14:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> how do you eliminate a diagnosis? 14:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Eric101 then it would be historic 14:52 < Bradford> |: 14:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BlastHardcheese not true 14:52 < IDoH> Eric101: Does it still exist in the ICD-9/10 codes, though? 14:53 < Carly> Bradford sorry I dont have the app on my laptop 14:53 -!- IDoH is now known as IDoH|huggle 14:53 < Bradford> Carly: dowload on laptop 14:53 < Bradford> :D 14:53 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:54 < Carly> Bradford look in google or visit the help website about Instagram? 14:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> both russia and US has smallpox stockpiles 14:55 < Bradford> okay 14:55 < Carly> Bradford I dont get access to my laptop,sorry 14:55 -!- Sky2042 [~Sky2042@wikipedia/Izno] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> who has smallpox too probably 14:55 -!- Betacommand [~Betacomma@unaffiliated/betacommand] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:56 -!- Falcorian1 [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:59 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:59 < NotASpy> ToAruShiroiNeko: Britain has smallpox too. 15:00 < Carly> Bradford what funny does Instagram? 15:01 < Carly> I have the app and dont see sense 15:01 < Bradford> ok 15:01 < Carly> Have* 15:02 < Carly> Ok what? 15:02 < Carly> I didnt ask something 15:05 -!- Eric101 [60392292@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.57.34.146] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:07 < Carly> Desde ese dia en que te vi,yo senti que iba a morir,no hubo palabras solo miradas,mi corazon comenzo a latir 15:07 < Carly> Uh o.O 15:08 -!- camerin [hoax@elite.bshellz.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:09 -!- camerin [hoax@elite.bshellz.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:13 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:16 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:19 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:21 -!- camerin [hoax@elite.bshellz.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:21 -!- camerin [hoax@elite.bshellz.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:22 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:22 -!- speredenn [~speredenn@2001:788:dead:beef:c437:e9c4:aa87:173a] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:23 -!- camerin [hoax@elite.bshellz.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:24 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:25 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has quit [Quit: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you] 15:25 -!- camerin [hoax@elite.bshellz.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:28 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:34 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:35 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@c-24-23-243-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:35 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@c-24-23-243-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:35 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:36 -!- molly [~molly@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:37 -!- molly [~molly@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:37 -!- lbenedix1 [~lbenedix@g225189218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:38 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|away 15:38 -!- Shearonink_afk [4464f101@wikipedia/Shearonink] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:39 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:39 -!- GorillaW1rfare [~GorillaWa@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:40 -!- GorillaW1rfare [~GorillaWa@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:40 -!- GorillaW1rfare [~GorillaWa@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:40 -!- GorillaW1rfare is now known as GorillaWarfare 15:41 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:41 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:41 < GorillaWarfare> Gah 15:41 < GorillaWarfare> So annoying 15:41 < IDoH|huggle> What, GorillaWarfare? Connectivity issues? 15:42 < GorillaWarfare> Trying to re-set up irssi 15:42 < GorillaWarfare> And my nickname wasn't releasing, which was annoying 15:43 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:43 -!- thedj [~pjotr@524B246D.cm-4-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 15:43 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:47 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:50 -!- monsterco [~monsterco@bas6-toronto47-1279309295.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:50 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Quit: slaporte] 15:51 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:51 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has quit [Changing host] 15:51 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:53 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:54 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:54 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:54 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:54 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:54 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:54 -!- monsterco [~monsterco@bas6-toronto47-1279309295.dsl.bell.ca] has left #wikipedia-en [] 15:57 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:57 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:57 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Client Quit] 15:58 < Dragonfly6-7> !oversight 15:58 -!- GorillaW1rfare [~GorillaWa@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:58 -!- GorillaW1rfare [~GorillaWa@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:00 -!- Demiurge1000 is now known as D1000|Away 16:01 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:03 < a930913> Is huggle not working for anybody else? 16:05 < IDoH|huggle> a930913: It doesn't seem to be reverting edits on my end 16:06 -!- Barras [barras@wikimedia/barras] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:06 < a930913> IDoH|huggle: I can't even log in. 16:06 -!- IDoH|huggle is now known as IDoH 16:06 < IDoH> a930913: you use a mac? 16:06 < a930913> IDoH: Nope. 16:06 < IDoH> Ah. 16:06 < IDoH> When I had problems like that, I just restarted huggle 16:07 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has quit [Quit: GabrielF] 16:07 < a930913> IDoH: How do you run huggle on a mac? Wine? 16:07 < IDoH> a930913: Yeah, wine 16:07 -!- GorillaW1rfare [~GorillaWa@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:08 < a930913> IDoH: Can one do it without having to brown nose apple? 16:08 < IDoH> a930913: I don't care about apple. 16:08 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:09 -!- Farby [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:09 < GorillaW1rfare> Ha 16:09 < GorillaW1rfare> Oh 16:09 < GorillaW1rfare> :( 16:09 -!- Barras [barras@wikimedia/barras] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:09 < IDoH> GorillaW1rfare: What's funny/sad? 16:09 -!- GorillaWarfare is now known as Guest91809 16:10 -!- GorillaW1rfare is now known as GorillaWarfare 16:10 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@c-76-24-12-237.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:10 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:10 < Farby> Lol 16:10 < IDoH> GorillaWarfare: Hi! You're normal again! 16:11 < Farby> Idoh hi :) 16:11 < GorillaWarfare> That was a victorious "ha' 16:11 < GorillaWarfare> But then I realized the problem wasn't fixed 16:11 < IDoH> GorillaWarfare: What was the problem? 16:12 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@112-213-183-135.bb.ispone.net.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:12 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@112-213-183-135.bb.ispone.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 16:12 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:12 < GorillaWarfare> I don't know, it might just be because Freenode isn't releasing my nick in time 16:12 * GorillaWarfare shrugs 16:12 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has left #wikipedia-en [] 16:12 < GorillaWarfare> Everyone knows where I live anyway, so s'not a huge deal if my IP is shown for a bit 16:13 < Farby> I dont know where you live :| 16:13 < a930913> IDoH: How do I run huggle on a mac? (So I can try figure out what's wrong.) 16:13 < GorillaWarfare> a930913: You install Windows :P 16:13 < IDoH> Ha ha ha, GorillaWarfare. 16:13 < GorillaWarfare> Farby: Bawwston 16:13 < a930913> GorillaWarfare: It's not working on windows >.> 16:14 < GorillaWarfare> a930913: Well, it's *really* not going to work on a Mac :P 16:14 < a930913> GorillaWarfare: Yeah, but it's working for IDoH. 16:14 < IDoH> GorillaWarfare: It usually works with me, and I use a Mac. 16:14 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:14 < IDoH> a930913: Follow the instructions here carefully. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Huggle/Wine 16:14 < Farby> Gorilla what¿ 16:15 < GorillaWarfare> IDoH: Natively? 16:15 < GorillaWarfare> Oh, Wine 16:15 < GorillaWarfare> Farby: Hm? 16:15 < IDoH> Yeah, Wine. 16:15 * GorillaWarfare nods 16:15 < GorillaWarfare> I might try to set it up on this on Wine 16:15 < IDoH> Can't wait until Huggle 3.0 comes out, and I don't have to use Wine anymore. :-) 16:15 * Farby shrugs 16:16 < GorillaWarfare> Hopefully I can get that and AWB going on here, and I won't have to reboot to Windows every time I want to do some mindless editing :P 16:17 < IDoH> GorillaWarfare, since you can code, can you please, please, please with Huggle 3.0 development? 16:17 < Revent> GorillaWarfare: What linux do you run? 16:17 < GorillaWarfare> IDoH: I've never written a line of C# in my life 16:17 < GorillaWarfare> Revent: Debian Wheezy 16:17 < IDoH> Darn it 16:17 < GorillaWarfare> IDoH: Plus I'm a *bit* busy with other projects these days 16:18 < IDoH> :-( 16:18 -!- gde33|2 [~gde33@546A1A51.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:18 < Revent> Oh, lol...you're feedback won't help me much, then....I'm wondering how much hell I would have with AWB... 16:18 < JustBerry> Gorilla, is your irc client okay? 16:20 < GorillaWarfare> Revent: Well I also use it on a Mac and Windows 7 16:20 < Bsadowski1> Use HexChat =D 16:21 < Bsadowski1> \o/ 16:21 -!- gde33 [~gde33@546A1A51.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:21 < IDoH> Use textual IRC on a mac, GorillaWarfare 16:21 < JustBerry> GorillaWarfare: There appeared to be an impersonator on irc. 16:21 < Revent> GorillaWarfare: It's more that I'm a 'custom compiled' PREEMT SMP gentoo.... 16:22 < Farby> Lol 16:23 < GorillaWarfare> JustBerry: It will be, once I slap it around a bit 16:24 < GorillaWarfare> IDoH: I don't use my Mac much these days 16:24 < IDoH> GorillaWarfare: Oh, okay. 16:24 < GorillaWarfare> JustBerry: Was this impersonator saying anyuthing? 16:24 < JustBerry> I messaged you. 16:24 < GorillaWarfare> Indeedy 16:24 < GorillaWarfare> fwiw, it was probably me 16:24 < Koi> GorillaWarfare: stop socking >:( 16:25 < Farby> Lol 16:27 < GorillaWarfare> Koi: :< 16:27 < Koi> GorillaWarfare: I'm kidding :) 16:27 < a930913> IDoH: Stuck on "Retrieving user whitelist..." 16:27 < Koi> <3 16:27 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 16:27 < GorillaWarfare> Koi: I know, haha. 16:27 < Koi> GorillaWarfare: oh ok good. Don't want to hurt any feelings. 16:27 < IDoH> a930913: That didn't happen to me last time I opened juggle. 16:29 -!- Deskana [~chatzilla@wikipedia/deskana] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:29 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:29 -!- gry [~gry@freenode/staff/gry] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:30 < Revent> Specifically, if anyone knows, what I'm wondering is if AWB will work under '-march=atom' 16:30 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:30 -!- Farby is now known as Carly 16:30 -!- wywin is now known as wywin_afk 16:31 -!- IDoH is now known as IDoH|NPP 16:32 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Quit: !] 16:35 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:36 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:38 -!- thedj [~pjotr@unaffiliated/thedj] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:42 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:43 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:44 -!- JustBerry is now known as JustBerry|away 16:46 < Dcoetzee> Hey is anyone around who could help with a research experiment? I just need someone to fill out a spreadsheet, shouldn't take more than 15, 20 minutes. :-) 16:48 < Koi> Dcoetzee: what is it about. 16:49 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:49 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:49 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:49 < Dcoetzee> I just need people to look at some sentences from posts in a forum and determine whether or not they are appeals for help 16:49 < Koi> o.O 16:49 < Dcoetzee> 274 of them 16:52 -!- martijnHH [martijnHH@wikipedia/Martijn-Hoekstra] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:55 -!- JustBerry|away is now known as JustBerry 16:55 -!- Venusaur [~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:04 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:04 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:05 -!- zz_nas is now known as nas 17:06 -!- evilgohan2[NullR [~freenode@c-69-251-240-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@ip72-199-26-55.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:09 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@ip72-199-26-55.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:09 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:11 -!- evilgohan2 [~freenode@c-69-251-240-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:11 -!- kondi [~kondi@wikimedia/kondicherry] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:13 -!- Venusaur [~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:16 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:18 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:19 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:20 -!- Swarlley [~chatzilla@S0106001ee560ade9.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:20 -!- Swarlley [~chatzilla@S0106001ee560ade9.ss.shawcable.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:20 -!- Swarlley [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:20 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:20 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:21 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:23 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:23 < JustBerry> I'll help, why not? 17:24 < JustBerry> Dcoetzee: Have you already found someone? 17:24 < Dcoetzee> JustBerry: I have 17:24 < Dcoetzee> Thanks anyway 17:24 < JustBerry> Dcoetzee: Okay :) 17:25 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Nick] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:28 < Dragonfly6-7> Dcoetzee 17:28 * IDoH|NPP pokes Dragonfly6-7 17:29 -!- gde33 [~gde33@546A1A51.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:30 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:30 -!- gde33|2 [~gde33@546A1A51.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:32 -!- Carly is now known as Carly|away 17:34 < Bradford> ._. 17:35 < Dragonfly6-7> what is it, IDOH 17:36 < IDoH|NPP> Just being a little annoying, since you pinged Dcoetzee without a message. 17:37 -!- IDoH|NPP [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:38 < Dragonfly6-7> I've been speaking with him in msg for several minutes 17:41 < Dcoetzee> He already quit 17:43 < Dragonfly6-7> I've told IRC to display quit messages in the status window, so as to not clutter the channel 17:43 < a930913> Bah, can't we add an abusefilter that stops any addition of content that doesn't contain a cite? :D 17:47 < Shirik> can we? yes 17:47 < Shirik> Should we? no 17:47 < Shirik> it would be so insanely expensive that it would make edits extremely painful 17:48 < Prodego> Shirik is the greatest thing 17:48 < Swarlley> GorillaWarfare: this is huge 17:48 < Shirik> :D 17:48 < Prodego> he does all the things I would for me 17:48 < Swarlley> and the resolution is magical 17:51 < Dragonfly6-7> We'd need strong AI to do that 17:51 < Dragonfly6-7> and if we had strong AI, then forcing it to filter Wikipedia edits would be illegal 17:52 -!- Venusaur [~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:54 -!- Jayflux [~jay_knows@unaffiliated/jayflux] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 17:59 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has quit [Quit: zzz] 18:00 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@c-24-23-243-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:00 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@c-24-23-243-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:00 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:00 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:00 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:00 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:02 -!- NuclearWarfare [~NuclearWa@pool-98-110-180-90.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:02 -!- NuclearWarfare [~NuclearWa@pool-98-110-180-90.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:02 -!- NuclearWarfare [~NuclearWa@wikipedia/NuclearWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:03 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:03 -!- NuclearWarfare [~NuclearWa@wikipedia/NuclearWarfare] has quit [Client Quit] 18:04 -!- StevenW_ [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:05 -!- slaporte_ [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:05 -!- slaporte_ [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has quit [Changing host] 18:05 -!- slaporte_ [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:05 -!- JZTech101 [~jztech101@c-24-0-88-174.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Hmm... 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18:13 < Swarlley> GorillaWarfare: it's more than double my previous monitor 18:13 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:14 -!- StevenW_ [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:15 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:15 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has quit [Changing host] 18:15 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:15 -!- GabrielF [~GabrielF@wikipedia/GabrielF] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:15 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:15 -!- StevenW_ is now known as StevenW 18:15 -!- StevenW is now known as StevenW_ 18:15 -!- StevenW_ is now known as StevenW 18:16 < GorillaWarfare> Swarlley: Ohh 18:16 < GorillaWarfare> What size is it? 18:17 < Swarlley> 23 inches 18:17 * GorillaWarfare high fives 18:17 < Jasper_Deng> Swarlley: "more than double my previous monitor" <-- 18:17 < GorillaWarfare> That's how big mine are :D 18:17 < Jasper_Deng> that does not say much 18:17 < Jasper_Deng> unless you say which quantity is doubled 18:17 < Prodego> its over 9000 18:17 < Swarlley> Jasper_Deng: actually it does 18:18 < Jasper_Deng> you could mean double screen length 18:18 < Jasper_Deng> or you could mean double pixel count 18:18 < Swarlley> right. 18:18 < Jasper_Deng> you could mean double volume 18:18 < Jasper_Deng> these have different implications 18:18 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@74.46.65.251] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:18 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@74.46.65.251] has quit [Changing host] 18:18 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:19 < GorillaWarfare> Jasper_Deng: I personally interpreted it to mean that if you add up the atomic numbers of all the elements used to make his new monitor, they're twice those of his old one. 18:19 < Swarlley> but having something two times whatever you interpreted it as means that it is probably shockingly better. 18:19 < GorillaWarfare> Swarlley: Weight? :P 18:19 < Swarlley> well, you could interpret it that way 18:19 < GorillaWarfare> "twice as bad"? 18:19 < Swarlley> but that doesn't make it magicla 18:20 * Swarlley goes to bed 18:20 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:21 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:21 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@ubuntu/member/logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:22 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@wikimedia/John-F-Lewis] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:23 < dtm_> mareklug: lots done, yeah.... for what reason, who knows? ;) /me hands mareklug a [[Basilisk II]] 18:24 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:24 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.37.82] has quit [Changing host] 18:24 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:25 -!- Swarlley [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:25 -!- slaporte_ [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:25 -!- slaporte_ [~slaporte@216.38.130.164] has quit [Changing host] 18:25 -!- slaporte_ [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:27 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:27 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:27 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:27 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:27 -!- slaporte_ [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31 -!- Swarlley [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:33 -!- YE|AFK is now known as YE 18:35 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:35 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@62.sub-174-252-33.myvzw.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:36 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@62.sub-174-252-33.myvzw.com] has quit [Changing host] 18:36 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:36 -!- Fleet|mobile [~timmeh@unaffiliated/fleetflame] has quit [Client Quit] 18:38 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:43 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46 -!- Carly|away is now known as carlt 18:46 -!- carlt is now known as carly 18:46 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:47 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:52 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 18:56 < mareklug> now the IIci has two Ethernet cards from Asante working at the same time, one in Ethernet 2 slot, and one in Ethernet 3 slot. The Ethernet 2 card is a 10base2 card (it also has 10baseT RJ-45 jack, but I have it right now on thinnet/BNC connector) and maintains the Appletalk with the other Mac OS 8.1 and two Mac OS 9.2.2 powerbooks. All these machines on that sub-intranet can do drag-and-drop and mount each others disks. The Ethernet3 card 18:56 < mareklug> is the Asante Fast Nubus Ethernet 100/10, and it is now doing 100T and downloading a debian 7 iso image (for my Pentium 4 dualboot XP/Debian 6.0.6). It is using Fetch 2.1.2 to do this and is downloading from California. The in-progress speed is 47 KB/sec or 0.36 Mbps 18:56 < mareklug> dtm_ ^ 18:58 -!- OlEnglish [~me@wikipedia/OlEnglish] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:59 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 19:00 < mareklug> dtm_ by the way, support@assante.com was useless. One sentence reply that unfortunately this gear has been discontinued. I bet I know now more about configuring their NuBus products than their current technical support 19:02 < GabrielF> you're using 10base2 on a mac Iici and you're complaining about sub megabit speeds? 19:02 -!- Firefly67 [~Firefly67@unaffiliated/firefly67] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:02 < mareklug> GabrielF obviously you did not read carefully what I wrote. 19:02 -!- Magog_the_Ogre [~Magog_the@wikipedia/Magog-the-Ogre] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:02 < kylu> mareklug: thought about asking them if they'd like to hire you for the occasional one-off project? 19:03 < mareklug> I have TWO ethernet cards in the box, going simultaneously. One is 10base2 for local Appletalk, and the other is Fast Ethernet, currently downloading from debian ftp repository via my cable modem and Time Capsule router 19:03 < mareklug> both use ethernet, the Appletalk uses appletalk over ethernet. 19:04 < GabrielF> ok, but the Iici is what, a 33MHz machine? that could be your bottleneck 19:04 < mareklug> the IIci is a Motorola 68030 CPU clocked at 25 MHz. :) :) :) 19:04 < mareklug> it is 1989 vintage. 19:04 < GabrielF> yeah I just looked it up :) 19:04 < GabrielF> 33MHz was not a bad guess 19:05 < mareklug> htere is a DayStar accelerator for it that bumps it up to 50 MHz, but the guy wants 60 dollars for it and I offerend 30. :) 19:06 < mareklug> i think Fetch 2.1.1 is the main bottle neck here. Also, I have not tuned the card with Assante tools to optimise MTU and the like. 19:06 < mareklug> kylu :) 19:08 < GabrielF> I'm trying to figure out how to get the wikipedia xml dump into S3 19:08 < GabrielF> I could download it to my machine and then upload it but (a) I'm low on disk space and (b) I'd like to see if there's a faster way 19:09 < mareklug> Incidentally, extending your wireless n-grade network consisting of a Time Capsule 4th generation and a Time Capsule 2nd generation acting in bridge mode dropped my wireless WLAN speedtest from 56 Mbps download / 11 Mbps upload to 32 Mbps download / 10 Mbps upload. Imagine that. 19:09 -!- Swob [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:09 < mareklug> the radios basically interfere with one another. If you switch the extening Time Capsule's radio off, you get optimal bandwidth. 19:10 < GabrielF> don't you live in a big city? I'm surprised that you were able to get 56Mbps at all 19:10 -!- carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11 < mareklug> GabrielF comcast blast service is really optimally configured here in Chicago. It is their showcase. They provision for 50/10 but deliver well in excess of that on the download side and 1 Mbps over on the upload. 19:11 < Swob> chicaog is one of the three hub cities for US internet 19:11 < Swob> as my Chicagoan computer science teacher was very proud of saying 19:11 < Swob> NYC and LA are the others (or maybe it is San Fran) 19:11 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:11 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:12 < mareklug> yeah. our mayor Rahm Emanuel is hell-bent on wiring/wirelessing the entire city at Gigabit speeds. 19:12 < GabrielF> I thought there were also a lot of peering points in northern virginia 19:12 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13 < mareklug> GabrielF Apple has certainly made South Carolina data centers very high throughput. 19:13 < GabrielF> AWS East Coast is in Reston, VA 19:13 < Swob> whats AWS? 19:13 < Swob> oh 19:13 < Swob> Amazon 19:14 < Swob> yeah Virginia is trying to make the DC suburbs into another Silicon Valley 19:14 < Swob> the two counties nearest DC have median household incomes above $100000 ... highest in the nation, even above California 19:15 -!- richard_wiggler [~jordan@pool-96-252-40-137.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15 -!- wctaiwan [8c70193c@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:15 < Swob> i think their population has doubled in just 15 years 19:15 < wctaiwan> mareklug: Have I linked you to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJYVH_kZkOk before? 19:16 < mareklug> no, but I know the music 19:16 < wctaiwan> it's a good rendition. 19:17 < mareklug> GabrielF I maxed out the ram on the IIci --128 MiB. No point running virutal memory anymore and tax the poor CPU. :) 19:17 < mareklug> the system takes 5 meg and slowly expands from there. 19:18 < GabrielF> I bet that would have cost a fortune in 1990 19:18 < mareklug> it was not available in 1990 19:18 < mareklug> 12 sticks of 16 meg cost 84 (half price, negotiated on Ebay, the memory is new, lifetime guaranteed) 19:18 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:19 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:19 < wctaiwan> is the company that made the memory still around? 19:19 < mareklug> I have 4 left over, but the other IIci is still sick. Probably PRAM battery dead and prevents enough juice to the hard drive (known to be fine on the working IIci) 19:20 < Swob> what's a IIci? 19:20 < mareklug> wctaiwan the company that made my memory is 1-800-memory out of China, and they make the thing in real time today. :) 19:20 < Swob> is that a pre-Macinotsh Apple liek the //c? 19:20 < mareklug> as well as all other forms and factors of old ram 19:20 < Swob> no 19:20 < Swob> its a Mac 19:20 < Swob> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IIci 19:20 < Swob> theyre just using the //c name I guess 19:20 < mareklug> Swob it is the last compact Macintosh II, before the Quadra line. 19:21 < GabrielF> huh, AWS has a service where you can physically ship them hard drives and they'll load the data for you 19:21 < mareklug> with which it shares the logic board and other goodies. 19:21 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 19:21 < wctaiwan> GabrielF: cue Dcoetzee :p 19:21 < Dcoetzee> Huh what now 19:21 < mareklug> Swob no. Apple IIa/b/e and Macintosh IIcx/ci are different names. 19:22 < Dcoetzee> GabrielF: That is awesome 19:22 < wctaiwan> Dcoetzee: you were talking last time about how shipping physical drives was a cheap and viable form of data transfer 19:22 < GabrielF> sneakernet 19:22 < Dcoetzee> It is... although it depends on the amount of data and the place where it is going 19:22 < mareklug> remember there was Macintosh I, Macintosh Plus, Macintosh SE and Macintosh SE30, before there was a Macintosh II. 19:22 < wctaiwan> and of surprisingly low latency. 19:22 < Swob> do they still have "Apple" keys on the keyboards on today's Macs? 19:22 < wctaiwan> amortised. 19:22 < Dcoetzee> Yes 19:22 < wctaiwan> Swob: nope 19:22 < mareklug> of course they do. it is called the command key 19:22 < Dcoetzee> However, it works best in places where data transfer is expensive 19:22 < Swob> y'all disagree with each other? 19:22 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:22 < wctaiwan> no more "apple" symbol though. 19:23 < Swob> oh OK then no 19:23 < GabrielF> when they were filming Lord of the Rings they had someone fly from NZ to London every week or so with footage on an iPod for scoring people 19:23 < wctaiwan> the key is still there, Swob, but the apple symbol is no longer present next to the clover thingy 19:23 < Dcoetzee> Amazon's solution is only really viable if you either live in Africa or New Zealand, or you have a tremendously huge amount of data 19:23 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:23 < mareklug> it does not have the Apple symbol but it has the prezel ideogram. same as on the old keyboards that had both. 19:23 < Dcoetzee> But there are some legitimate use cases in that 19:24 < Dcoetzee> My proposed business though wasn't just about shipping hard drives, it was about combining orders for data, shipping drives containing all the orders, and then shipping out individual orders on burned CDs and DVDs 19:25 < Dcoetzee> (or Blurays, or Flash drives) 19:25 < Jasper_Deng> Dcoetzee: Amazon Web Services? 19:25 < Swob> one of my classmates looked at mefunny when i told him to press "Open Apple C" 19:25 < Swob> (or some similar ything) 19:25 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:25 < mareklug> huh. Detroit, Chicago tied 1:1 in the 3rd period of game 7 in Chicago United Center 19:25 < Guerillero> sup en 19:25 < Swob> because I got off Apples when they still had both a closed-apple and an open-apple key 19:25 < Swob> and never got out of the habit 19:25 < mareklug> 7 minutes remainign 19:25 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:26 < wctaiwan> o_O 19:26 < wctaiwan> anyway, should pay attention in class. 19:26 -!- wctaiwan [8c70193c@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:26 < Carly> O.o 19:26 -!- JustBerry [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/justberry] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26 -!- bjelleklang [~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26 < Bradford> o_O 19:27 < Carly> O_o 19:27 < GabrielF> alright well I guess I'll just download this 10GB dump file locally and then upload it to S3 from my Mac unless anyone has any better ideas... 19:27 < Bradford> o_O 19:27 < Bradford> Carly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAcsYCzYdbg 19:28 < Carly> bradford I.am busy,bye 19:28 -!- bjelleklang [~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:28 < Bradford> ok 19:28 < Bradford> bye 19:28 < Bradford> Carly: fea 19:28 < mareklug> why locally? no cloud scratch space for 10 gig? :) 19:29 < dtm_> she's got something in her eye. and it's contagious from wctaiwan, sheesh 19:29 < Carly> bradford feo 19:29 < Carly> bye. 19:29 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29 -!- Guest91809 [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29 < dtm_> Swob: you are correct to call it that 19:29 < dtm_> as do i 19:30 < mareklug> GabrielF Gmail/Google Drive now combine to gie anyone 15 Gig of cloud. use that. 19:30 < mareklug> give * 19:30 < GabrielF> but I'm putting it in S3 because I was to use Elastic MapReduce to do stuff with it 19:31 -!- StevenW [~StevenW@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:31 < dtm_> mareklug: "Macintosh I"? where in tarnation did you come up with that? ;) poor form, old man! the "Macintosh" was retroactively nicknamed the Mac 128k when the Mac 512k came out. 19:31 < dtm_> and "Apple IIa/b/e"? wat. 19:31 < mareklug> there was also Lisa 19:32 < GabrielF> my first computer was a IIgs 19:33 < dtm_> mareklug: you bought 68k-compatible SIMMs, made new? waaaaat. 19:33 < Carly> Good Night 19:33 < mareklug> my first computer was a Mac IIcx which I still hope to resurrect. It's 24-bit RasterOps TrueColor video card is what I am still using in the working IIci. 19:33 < Bradford> Carly: chao fea 19:33 < Swob> 1989 19:33 < Bradford> good ninght 19:33 < Carly> bradford chao feo 19:33 < dtm_> GabrielF: so how big is that 10GB xml dump, once it's compressed? see xz or 7zip. 19:34 < mareklug> dtm_ indeed, brand new, and from the manufacturer, and and half price, and with lifetime warranty. 19:34 < Carly> es night bradford 19:34 < Carly> no ninght 19:34 < GabrielF> its 9.8GB in compressed as a bz2, uncompressed its 40-something gigs 19:34 < IDoH> Are you going to sleep, Carly? 19:35 < Bradford> Carly: no me importa como se escriba 19:35 < Carly> bradford No. 19:35 < dtm_> mareklug: only losing that much speed on your speedtest with a wifi extender, is pretty good 19:35 < Bradford> Si 19:35 < mareklug> dtm_ I now got 39 Mbps/ 19:35 < Carly> IDOH i will try to sleep,yes. 19:36 < Carly> no bradford. 19:36 < dtm_> mareklug: two ethernet cards? so you dont have Appletalk over IP? 19:36 < Bradford> yes Carly 19:36 < mareklug> dtm I separated the tasks 19:36 < dtm_> fyi there's software to bridge the two lol 19:37 < Bradford> IDoH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4bX0UMIM94 :) 19:37 < mareklug> Blackhaws score but waved off. 19:37 < Carly> bradford No. 19:37 < Carly> :| 19:37 < Bradford> yes Carly 19:37 < Bradford> |: 19:37 < dtm_> GabrielF: xz or 7zip will be fairly smaller 19:37 < dtm_> fyi 19:37 < IDoH> Bradford: You like this video? 19:37 < Carly> bradford No and no 19:37 < dtm_> GabrielF: bzip2 is completely obsolesced by xz 19:38 < Bradford> Carly: Yes and yes, and end 19:38 < Bradford> IDoH: yes ;) 19:38 < mareklug> dtm_ it is still appletalk over ethernet. 19:38 < GabrielF> well the WMF produces the dumps and they also have a utility that lets you read the compressed bz2 files into hadoop, so I'm basically stuck with bz2 19:38 < IDoH> Bradford: Eh, I don't always like those kinds of videos. 19:38 < dtm_> mareklug: you're resurrecting the whole thing, culture and all. with all your ultra-nerd specs given ;) that's the kind of nerd report i used to give ;) 19:38 < dtm_> mareklug: also my jpeg ratios and such ;) 19:39 -!- jakr [~jake@unaffiliated/jakr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:39 < Bradford> ok 19:39 < Bradford> :( 19:39 < dtm_> GabrielF: oh okay. so not always functionally obsolesced. ;) 19:39 < Carly> bradford No. 19:39 < Bradford> ay 19:39 < Bradford> ya no hablo ingles 19:39 < Bradford> -_- 19:39 < dtm_> GabrielF: do you have just the storage with AWS or do you have a virtual machine? 19:40 < dtm_> coz depending on your upstream speed, it'd be faster to recompress it twice ;) 19:40 < dtm_> that'd be cute, huh 19:40 < dtm_> mareklug: you separated what tasks and why 19:40 < GabrielF> I have a VM but I don't have enough space on my hard drive to expand and then recompress 19:40 < dtm_> GabrielF: well, you'd pipe them 19:41 < GabrielF> I'll have to test my upload speed to s3 19:41 < dtm_> bzip2 -dc foo.bz2 | xz -9vc > foo.xz 19:41 < dtm_> if you had enough space for *that*. 19:41 < mareklug> dtm I separated AppleTalk service from Ethernet on WLAN on the IIci because I have the two cards and it proved they can work at the same time. IN a funny way, it also isolates the Appletalk subnet from the WLAN on that IIci, so no nasties. :) 19:42 < dtm_> no! you'd cat xz through ssh, piped into the VM's bzip2 19:42 < dtm_> assuming that your network is reliable enough that it wouldn't need to resume ;) 19:42 < dtm_> to which one might say "no thanx" 19:42 < mareklug> overtime! 19:42 < dtm_> mareklug: nasty what 19:42 -!- Headbomb|AfK is now known as Headbomb 19:42 < dtm_> 'funny' is one word for it ;) 19:43 < mareklug> dtm someone breaking in from the WLAN 19:43 < GabrielF> I'll have to play with it - I had to dump the last season of homeland to free up enough space for this :) 19:43 < dtm_> what!! 19:43 < dtm_> mareklug: you know you're talking about an unexploited OS though, right? ;) just fyi 19:43 < dtm_> how can someone be breaking in? 19:44 < dtm_> are you talkin about WPA2? 19:44 < mareklug> dtm hey, it is nice that I can make use of both cards and in the process it creates separate NICs on separate protocols. No way even a very good hacker can jump that. 19:44 < dtm_> or do you have some ultra ancient junk that only does WEP ;) 19:44 < dtm_> if you say so! ;) 19:44 < mareklug> dtm my junk does WPA2/AES personal 19:44 < dtm_> oic 19:45 < dtm_> someone's breaking in to WPA2? :-o 19:45 < dtm_> how do you know this 19:45 < BlastHardcheese> always good to authenticate your target before you connect your junk to it 19:45 -!- Carly [~carly@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has quit [Quit: I love you all] 19:45 < Shirik> I always authenticate before I connect my junk 19:45 -!- FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|iPad 19:45 < mareklug> anyway, even if someone breaks into my X 10.8.3 from WLAN (over firewall on Time Capsule), they cannot access the AppleTalk subnet for the older machines. :) :) 19:46 -!- soghomon [4b53fcfe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.83.252.254] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:46 < dtm_> mareklug: so how do you know that someone is in fact breaking into your WPA2? and how did you not stop this? 19:47 < mareklug> i don't. I am just explaining the benefits of separation. 19:47 < Bradford> IDoH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U87awq8Z1LQ 19:47 < Bradford> view 19:48 < IDoH> That looks like a news show, Bradford 19:49 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:49 < Bradford> ok 19:49 < Bradford> xD 19:51 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 19:52 -!- Titoxd_ [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:53 < dtm_> mareklug: oh ok i thought you said that someone *was* breaking in. you just meant potentially. 19:53 < mareklug> right 19:53 < mareklug> the only way the X 10.8.3 talks to the old machines is through ftp that I bring up and down as needed. 19:54 -!- Dragonfly6-7 [~test@67.68.78.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:54 < mareklug> and if I find myself an scp client for system 7, that will go away, as well. 19:55 < mareklug> PuTTy comes to mind. 19:55 < dtm_> mareklug: oic 19:55 < dtm_> then you'd be *really* in business. 19:55 < dtm_> the computer industrialist. 19:55 < mareklug> slowly but surely... 19:55 < dtm_> heavy on the 'slowly' 19:55 < dtm_> why, again, are you not using Basilisk II? 19:56 < mareklug> on the LAN things are pretty fast. Also, the sytem 7 implementtions of Adobe stuff are rather snappy. 19:56 < mareklug> the biggest problem is browsing the WLAN in iCab 2.99 on system 7. it gets tripped by most JavaScript. it just basically slows down to a crawl. 19:57 < mareklug> why would I use Basilisk II? 19:57 < dtm_> nope. why *wouldn't* you 19:57 -!- Sky2042 [~Sky2042@wikipedia/Izno] has quit [Quit: Good night, and good luck.] 19:59 < mareklug> it's an emulator, for crying out loud. I know how Virtual PC for the mac crawled on G5 iMac. I would need a very powerful host to make this emulator run fast. 19:59 < dtm_> :-I 19:59 < dtm_> r u srs 20:00 < mareklug> my most powerful machine is a Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz. Maybe in the next cycle. :) 20:00 < dtm_> the words, they will not come 20:00 < dtm_> you're like some kinda savant ;) you're so utterly far out of touch, brother <3 20:01 < Bradford> ´_é 20:01 < Bradford> xd 20:01 < dtm_> you're a mythical creature before my very eyes. it's a hauntingly beautiful thing. 20:02 < mareklug> dtm_ it is not beyond my ken to spring for the upcoming Mac Pro 2013…. we shall see. Now, that would be a powerful enough host. But where is the charm of running 1989-vintage hardware and software and making people shake their heads... 20:02 -!- Shearonink [4464f101@wikipedia/Shearonink] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:03 < dtm_> where'd you just magically get that figure? what on earth and heaven just possessed you to think that a core 2 duo can't handle emulating 20 year old junk, but a current system somehow can? 20:03 < Swob> i wonder how many people you could fool if you used just the case and put a modern computer inside of it 20:03 < dtm_> Swob: yeah lots of people do that. mini ITX in a G4 Cube case! lol 20:03 < Swob> "look ay my Mac from 1989, still chugging along in 2013!" 20:03 < dtm_> mareklug: the Power Mac 9500 was Apple's fastest 68k system, when it was new, dewd 20:03 < mareklug> dtm_ btw, you would not have a spare 5v 2.4A Netgear cube power supply? The recycling people who shipped me the Netgear gigabit switch did not include a power supply that matches it. 20:03 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:04 < dtm_> no i dont just happen to have that, sorry 20:04 < mareklug> BLACKHAWKS WIN IN OVERTIME 20:04 < dtm_> COUNTIN CARDS 20:04 < dtm_> HOT WATER BURN BABY, COUNTIN CARDS. YEEEEEEAAAAHHHH. 20:04 < dtm_> has anyone verified that mareklug is not a bot? 20:04 < dtm_> by any chance 20:05 < dtm_> do we have a {{notabot}} status or something 20:05 < mareklug> on that note, I will finish consuming my baked potato and fish 20:05 < dtm_> please do. coz you're an *excellent* driver. 20:05 < dtm_> fooooore! 20:05 < dtm_> hurry up on dinner; Wapner's comin on 20:07 < dtm_> wapner comes on after blackhawks. yeah. 20:07 -!- soghomon [4b53fcfe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.83.252.254] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:09 < dtm_> mareklug: do you have an available, compatible drive for A/UX? you should. 20:10 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:10 < mareklug> i don't have a spare scsi. I could allocate a partition on an external drive 20:12 < Swob> wow i didnt know this guy was notable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Sokolove 20:13 < Shearonink> I have no idea about what to do with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Adam_Peter_Lanza which was created by the same editor who did this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Adam_Lanza and is the same editor who deleted content from this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting&diff=prev&oldid=557441740 20:14 < dtm_> mareklug: it has to be specific drives 20:15 -!- tuprincipe [~canaima@190-76-188-232.dyn.movilnet.com.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:15 < mareklug> I am not sure what is to be gained to run an antiquated unix on a slow system like that. At least for Mac OS I have tons of expensive software. 20:16 < Revent> Shearonink: You need to take it to the Administrator Noticeboard. 20:16 < Shearonink> ((shudder)) AN/I 20:16 < Revent> And yes, a 'biography' of him is /highly/ against policy. 20:17 < dtm_> mareklug: you are so far out, bro ;) 20:18 < dtm_> Revent: why is it against policy 20:18 < Revent> WP:PERPETRATOR 20:18 < Shearonink> *sigh* 20:18 < Shearonink> I just don't think I have the strength to take this on at the moment 20:19 < Shearonink> been fighting to many battles elsewhere 20:19 < Shearonink> to/too 20:19 < dtm_> Shearonink: awww 20:19 < Revent> A 'criminal' only notable for a particular crime isn't 'notable' and that kind of thing (since he was never convicted) will just draw more random crap. 20:20 < Shearonink> and the fact that this editor tried to remove the perpetrator section from the parent article 20:21 < Revent> Shearonink: *chuckles*, and points at a windmill. :P 20:21 < dtm_> Revent: i see, thx 20:22 < dtm_> wow, i could be wrong, but from looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting , it looks like people painstakingly reconstructed every detail into storyboard form,from a large variety of sources 20:22 < dtm_> that's morbidly impressive 20:22 < dtm_> if it's accurate 20:22 < Shearonink> it is 20:22 < Revent> No, it's original research, most likely. 20:23 < Revent> (looks) 20:23 < Shearonink> yech, this editor simply lifted text from the parent article 20:23 < Shearonink> word for word 20:23 < Shearonink> School library staff Yvonne Cech and Maryann Jacob first hid 18 children etc 20:23 < Revent> Holy shit that's cited as hell nevermind. :P 20:24 < Revent> *agrees with the 'morbidly impressive'* 20:24 < Shearonink> Revent: yes it is, I helped write some of it, mostly to keep the crazies and conspiracy-theorists from mangling it beyond all repair 20:24 -!- jonathan` [~farnhamj@149.255.99.95] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:26 < Shearonink> OK, do I need to get a histmerge on those two drafts? 20:26 < Revent> (looks) after a quick skim of the sources, they're all 'secondary'....jeez... 20:26 < Revent> Shearonink: Not on AfC crud I don't think...it'll just get denied when he tries to sumbit it lol... 20:27 < Revent> *submit 20:27 < dtm_> Revent: it's referenced to the bujeeperz and back huh 20:27 < Shearonink> he stole everything from the parent article 20:27 < Shearonink> for the two Lanza drafts 20:27 < dtm_> Shearonink: time for speedy deletion huh 20:27 < Revent> Shearonink: Yea.... WP:CFORK 20:27 -!- Swob is now known as {soap|bed} 20:28 < dtm_> time to bring the deletionz with speedz 20:28 < Revent> But....isn't it better to let him waste his time in an sandbox? :P 20:28 < dtm_> hah! 20:28 < {soap|bed}> it seems that guy writes a lot about serial killers 20:28 < dtm_> sandbox? or AfC honeypot?!?! 20:28 < {soap|bed}> no, wait, more like spree killers 20:28 < Shearonink> If there's an admin around, don't the two drafts need to be hist-merged before I try to kill it with fire? 20:29 < Shearonink> yeah soap, a murder-interest editor 20:29 < dtm_> yikes 20:30 < dtm_> on a sentimentally nonencyclopedic note, i would hope that such an intensive reconstructive (dare i say forensic :( ) effort would somehow credit the whole situation 20:30 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:30 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 20:30 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:30 < dtm_> and serve to honor the victims by informing other 20:30 < dtm_> s 20:31 < dtm_> anyway. i see that they mentioned [[9-1-1]] but the rest of the article just says "911". shouldn't they all be "9-1-1" for consistency, and shouldn't it be [[9-1-1]] because they all occur in different sections and becuase non-americans may not know what it is? 20:33 < Revent> Well, for one thing americans say 9-11....and it should only be linked at the first occurrance. 20:33 < Revent> Oh, lol, sorry, switch topics in my brain *facepalm* yeah 9-1-1 20:33 < dtm_> yeah. 20:33 < dtm_> the first occurrance of the entire article? that's not cool. 20:34 < Shearonink> actually, I usully say September the 11th 20:34 < dtm_> it's a huge article. 20:34 < Revent> WP:OVERLINK 20:34 < dtm_> Revent: yeah, that doesn't really make sense. 20:34 < dtm_> either people need to know what the terms are, and that articles exist, or they don't. 20:34 < dtm_> not ... kinda. 20:34 < IDoH> I say/think 9-11 myself 20:35 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@204-195-75-66.wavecable.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:35 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@204-195-75-66.wavecable.com] has quit [Changing host] 20:35 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:35 < dtm_> anyway, the spelling should be consistent at least. shoudln't i change the occurances of "911" to "9-1-1"? it's not "nine hundred eleven". 20:35 < IDoH> dtm_: Yeah, probably 20:35 < Revent> My 'impression' of the way most people read wp is to read the lead, then skip around....so if something's linked in the lead, no need to link it anywhere else... 20:36 < {soap|bed}> what are yoyu guys talking about 20:36 < Revent> But if not in the leant but like section 2 and 5...first time in each... (IMO) 20:36 < Revent> *lead* 20:37 < Revent> '9 1 1' as in the phone number, and wikilinking it. 20:37 -!- {soap|bed} [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has quit [Quit: bed] 20:38 < dtm_> Revent: in any case, that anecdotal impression is irrelevant <3 there is no "most people". like i said, either it's relevant or not, period <3 20:38 < dtm_> i'm not meaning to discuss it with you personally of course, just venting about the idea ;) 20:39 < Revent> dtm_: I was under the impression (till I just checked) that it was in there like 20 or 30 times... 20:39 < Shearonink> no not to 9-1-1 20:39 < Shearonink> 9-1-1 is the emergency american telephone # 20:39 < Shearonink> 9-11 is the plane/terrorist attack 20:40 < Revent> (yeah, that side track was my random fault...) 20:41 < Revent> dtm_: what's 'overlinking' is kinda a subjective thing....it's just 'convenience' anyhow (there's a search box) but too much is hard to read. 20:41 < dtm_> Revent: yeah, that's just nonsense. there is no effect on readability of course 20:42 < Revent> *lols* Maybe not to you.... 20:42 < dtm_> correct, because there isn't. 20:42 < Revent> Depends on software, font, options.... 20:43 < dtm_> then that's the user's complete failure, and they can configure something. that's literally a presentation variable. selectively mutilating all content itself, around the hypothetical existence of some gimped up junk somewhere, is nonsense. 20:43 < dtm_> no offense of course 20:43 < dtm_> just pointing out abject nonsense 20:43 < dtm_> in the overall big picture 20:43 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 20:43 -!- Fox2k12 [~yogi@wikipedia/fox2k11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:44 < GabrielF> I'm sure there are studies on the effect of hyperlinks on readability 20:44 < Revent> Yup, no damn reason to worry about things like people using screenreaders or anything.. *lol* 20:44 < dtm_> please read what i said. 20:44 < dtm_> or else dont worry about it 20:45 < dtm_> it's a matter of a presentation variable. the policy is a total failure of the abstraction of content vs. presentation. it's basic nonsense, as obvious as hypermedia itself. 20:45 < Revent> I did read what you said, and the whole point of /having/ wp is kinda to be 'useful'....if something hampers accessibility without adding anything, why do it? 20:46 -!- tuprincipe [~canaima@190-76-188-232.dyn.movilnet.com.ve] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:46 -!- Bradford is now known as Zayn 20:47 < Revent> It's 'well known' that text which doesn't have a uniform 'color' across the page is hard to read....that's the whole point of things like small caps and lining figures in 'traditional' typography. 20:47 < dtm_> which is the whole point of having abstracted content from presentation. 20:48 < dtm_> which is exactly why *I* dont have to have wikipedia read to me by my computer even though *I* am not blind 20:49 < Revent> I just think your 'implied' idea that 'well they can just upgrade' is kinda elitist. I'd like my grandmother to be about to read wikipedia with netscape on the 386 at the nursing home, personally. 20:49 < dtm_> software can parse out multiple links, by the user's personal preferences, just exactly as easily as it parses everything else in the first place. 20:49 < Revent> *able to* 20:49 < dtm_> :-I 20:50 < Zayn> |: 20:51 < Revent> Now, some kind of 'intelligent' wikilinking of terms you hover over that you could turn on would be cool as hell... :) 20:51 < dtm_> uh. ..... riiiight. glad you got that all figgerd out! 20:52 < dtm_> and we're all done lookin at Sandy Hook stuff over here :/ 20:52 < dtm_> God bless em all. reason number 2579373235 that i dont have broadcast tv, sadly 20:52 < dtm_> man i got a mega huge heaping dose of all that stuff just from the tv at the grocery store :/ 20:53 < dtm_> eating in the cafe and whatnot, with CNN going 20:53 -!- JKL1234- is now known as JKL|away 20:53 < dtm_> it's much nicer to read about it in doses :\ 20:53 -!- Revent [ad15dd3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-eraajnvxcsjbwpfy] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:54 < dtm_> on web sites which encourage one to do something about it etc 20:55 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:56 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 20:57 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@ubuntu/member/logan] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:05 -!- JKL|away is now known as JKL1234- 21:09 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Quit: May your day be wharrgarbl free] 21:09 -!- Zayn is now known as Bradford 21:09 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:09 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 21:09 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:13 -!- Annabelle [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:13 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:14 < Fyre> hi addihockey10 21:14 < addihockey10> Hello fyre 21:14 < addihockey10> How are you doing 21:14 < Fyre> good you? 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23:19 < OlEnglish> right. 23:19 < OlEnglish> dosbox :) 23:19 < OlEnglish> love it 23:19 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> FEMEN to protest against public flashing 23:19 < OlEnglish> i'm gonna play some of my old text adventures 23:20 -!- albel727 [~albel727@unaffiliated/albel727] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:21 -!- Philon [~Philon@unaffiliated/philon] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> OlEnglish text? 23:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> like.... words? 23:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> OMG 23:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p 23:22 < OlEnglish> heheh 23:22 < OlEnglish> your imagination has much better graphics than any video card of today 23:24 -!- Venusaur [~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:27 < Shirik> But this is _HD_TV 23:27 < Shirik> it's got better RESOLUTION than real life 23:27 -!- mindspillage [~kat@50-196-147-157-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:27 -!- mindspillage [~kat@50-196-147-157-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:27 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:27 < Jasper_Deng> Shirik: no 23:27 < Jasper_Deng> only a retina-display TV does! 23:27 < Shirik> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT7hcWFu7q4 23:28 < Philon> the login page has been updated today 23:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> OlEnglish imagination? 23:28 -!- ow [icxcnika@freenode/weird-exception/network-troll/afterdeath] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> My imagination is 16bit 23:29 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e178125222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 120x1080 resolution too :p 23:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes 120 23:29 < Shirik> is it also 2D? 23:30 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:30 * Jasper_Deng wonders when displays will be /truly/ 3D (i.e. holographic) 23:30 < OlEnglish> my imagination is a virtual reality 23:31 < OlEnglish> quite literally 23:31 * Jasper_Deng guesses OlEnglish lucidly dreams, just like himself 23:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> OlEnglish your imagnation also has inflatable baloons 23:33 -!- Dcoetzee|3 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:33 -!- Theo10011 [~Theo10011@wikimedia/Theo10011] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:33 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has quit [Quit: Buh-bye] 23:33 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:33 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:36 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:37 -!- BritneySpears [b6b22c1b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.178.44.27] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:39 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:40 -!- Chris_G [~chris@wikipedia/Chris-G] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:42 -!- speredenn [~speredenn@2a01:e34:ee40:55e0:7ddb:c448:5904:efbc] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:42 -!- puffin [~cremepuff@unaffiliated/cremepuff222] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:43 < BritneySpears> cremepuff what kinda dessert are you puffin 23:44 -!- Theo10011 [~Theo10011@wikimedia/Theo10011] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:44 < BritneySpears> Theo10011: Hi babe 23:44 -!- Chris_G [~chris@wikipedia/Chris-G] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:44 < Theo10011> Hi hon 23:44 < Philon> BritneySpears:, ?? here? 23:44 < Philon> :p 23:45 -!- rashni [~rashni@199-255-210-13.anchorfree.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:46 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:46 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-173-70-77-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:46 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:46 < BritneySpears> Philon: I am having cookies. 23:49 < mareklug> dtm_ yes, the PRAM battery on the nonbooting IIci is 0 volts, according to my trusty voltmeter. It did not even move a needle. Ordered 2 such from Utah on Ebay for 5 bucks less a cent delivered. 23:51 < BritneySpears> mareklug: If you go a girl pregnant when she was 16 and you were 17, you could be my dad. 23:51 < mareklug> I always wanted to be a dad of a famous she pop singer 23:53 < Philon> BritneySpears is now in Pakistan? ohh 23:54 < mareklug> she always struck me as a properly Karachi girl. 23:55 < Philon> lol 23:55 -!- bonsaiADY [~eluderCDM@93-137-173-43.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:55 -!- bonsaiADY [~eluderCDM@93-137-173-43.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #wikipedia-en [] 23:56 -!- Theo10011 [~Theo10011@wikimedia/Theo10011] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:56 < mareklug> 5 CR2025 lithium 3volt baatteries delivered from Arizona for buck thirty nine. 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